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How Catastrophic EV Depreciation has EV-iscerated the Motor Trades confidence in Electric Vehicles 

Barrie Crampton
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EV Times, How Catastrophic EV Depreciation has EV-iscerated the Motor Trades confidence in Electric Vehicles
I have used Motorpoint as an example as it has been well documented in the Trade papers, Motorpoint have regrouped and survived, www.am-online.... but many didn't, catastrophic EV depreciation had a disastrous effect on many garages, as it even had a knock on effect to ICE cars which sent their values tumbling too, so please, do not reply in the comments that DEPRECIATION is only an issue if you sell the vehicle, because its not!!!! its an issue to every one, from the manufacturer, to the garage, to the leasing company, to the end user, i say end user tongue in cheek because i still don't think we have seen the full picture of how many EV's have been pre registered, and how many are still out there ticking away and waiting to blow up in the Motor Trades face
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@cwitechnical
@cwitechnical 2 дня назад
i remember going to see the bank manager when i was 16 for a loan, and i went in wearing my overalls as i'd come straight from work. he made a point of saying he was more likely to give me a loan than someone in a suit because it was obvious i was a grafter. I've been running my own business for over 20 years now and i've never forgotten that day. I've also never forgotten that the best thing anyone can learn, is the art of listening. I enjoy listening to your view Barrie.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
thanks for watching, and listening 😂
@tonimor9721
@tonimor9721 2 дня назад
The 'art of listening " so few people listen , carry on at this rate and future generations will be born with one ear and two mouths .
@getawayhs2856
@getawayhs2856 День назад
How old are you? I'm 55 and seeing a "bank manager" for anything hasn't existed in my adulthood. If you're not in your 70s or 80s I'm calling BS.
@johnparnell8571
@johnparnell8571 2 дня назад
My grandmother always said 'you can judge a man by the state of his shoes'. Spot on! The public will only readily buy into something new if it is markedly better in every respect than what is presently available. It will sell itself without pushy salespeople. EV, and its battery technology in particular, needs to progress a great deal more before that criteria is met.
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 2 дня назад
well, latest stats from the SMMT, the organisation that monitors the sale of vehicles, contradicts your assumptions...here are the figures... SMMT SALES DATA september 2024 Record 56,387 BEV registrations in September "Uptake of plug-in hybrids (PHEV) grew faster than any other fuel type in the month, up 32.1% to take an 8.9% share of the market. Hybrid electric vehicle (HEV) registrations rose 2.6%, boosting market share to 14.2%, while petrol and diesel registrations declined by -9.3% and -7.1% respectively" Here is ACTUAL SMMT sales data .... Sept 2024 Diesel DOWN -7.1% Petrol DOWN -9.3% BEV (full battery electric) UP +24.4% PHEV (plug-in battery hybrid)UP +32.1% HEV UP ( non plug-inHybrid) +2.6% TREND( year to date) Diesel DOWN -12% Petrol UP +0.8% BEV (full battery electric) UP +13.2% PHEV (plug-in battery hybrid) UP +25.2% HEV ( non plug-inHybrid) UP +13.6% says the SMMT..."Demand for the latest BATTERY ELECTRIC vehicles (BEV) hit a new record volume for any month in September, up 24.4% to 56,387 units, achieving a 20.5% share of the overall market, up from 16.6% a year ago. " battery technology is progressing rapidly, the cost of battery manufacture is falling, the range of BEV's is rising. EV's are now achieving ranges of around 400 miles....not that range is relevant in the real world where the average daily use in the UK is 18 miles.
@barryelstone2992
@barryelstone2992 2 дня назад
Barrie once again you're on the money, I used to do contract smart repairs for a very large Scottish based car supermarket, who became very interested in toys for us premises, I heard a salesman who had been advised by a mechanic that a turbo was faulty say don't worry we will deal with that later, he was only interested in hitting target. I would never buy from a car supermarket because of what I've witnessed. I bought my rrs 2006 2.7 six years ago on my gut feeling whilst having a test drive and nearly 60k later I still own it and it's used every day. Over my 50 years in the motor trade there are 2 salesmen that I would happily buy a car from I think that says it all. Keep the videos coming they are always something I can relate to.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
thanks for watching
@nottmfunguy
@nottmfunguy 2 дня назад
EV adverts are tragic. They portray urbanised young people in colourful clothes, running around the cities in their square edged EV cars, saving the world. looking like they are living the life.etc etc etc. Far from reality.
@FolkinghamRob
@FolkinghamRob 2 дня назад
I had a Windows salesman visit my property for a quote, he turned up wearing jeans, jacket and a football shirt. From the minute he sat down, I knew I was never going to buy anything from him.
@golders99
@golders99 2 дня назад
I worked at a main dealership a few years ago. Two of the salesman had coke issues.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
some take the wrong route when dealing with stress
@johnlesoudeur3653
@johnlesoudeur3653 2 дня назад
Well they were smoke free.
@antoniopalmero4063
@antoniopalmero4063 2 дня назад
Diet or Zero ?
@JeffPower-dv3zl
@JeffPower-dv3zl 2 дня назад
😂❤🎉😊​@@antoniopalmero4063
@adrianward7888
@adrianward7888 2 дня назад
I like the salemans that every time you ask a question they march off to the managers office to get an answer.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
the Pendle system, i have a great story about that
@russiandrivers9986
@russiandrivers9986 2 дня назад
I love it when they come back and say "good news"
@javelinXH992
@javelinXH992 2 дня назад
@@russiandrivers9986 Unlike the old days, we now have all the info we need at our fingertips, including what prices we can really expect to pay. The internet has put more power in the hand of the consumer, not the salesman. When I purchased a new car 4 years ago, I’d already done all my own homework and had made all the decisions already (I don’t make impulse decisions on things like this). I made the salesman do his bit, but in reality all he could do was lose the sale. He did his job well enough and the sale went through. Yes, it was an EV, don’t worry about it! It’s fine by the way and the numbers work for me, even at depreciation around 70% 😉
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 2 дня назад
it's because they play the cat n mouse games to try to break the resolve of the gullible customers. As soon as the "ill ask the manager" routine starts I'm out the door.
@MrGrtx
@MrGrtx 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton I will definitely look forward to hearing that one.
@jamesodd3896
@jamesodd3896 2 дня назад
Weird how there’s no ice car adverts all of a sudden. They are that good they can sell themselves.
@seantaylor9758
@seantaylor9758 2 дня назад
Great analysis Barry, keep them coming as you are spot on.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
Much appreciated
@goansunborn
@goansunborn 2 дня назад
I live in Norway. I'll give you a good example of a buyer here. My dentist, nice girl, had a BMX X1. Nice car, didn't want to sell it but because the toll system around Oslo is so expensive for fossil fuel cars ( eletcric cars pay less to drive ) she's now in the market for an EV to save on her monthly costs. She's not a car person, just wants something decent and not expensive but is now buying a brand new EV. She doesn't want to but feels forced because she won't buy a used EV for obvious reasons. So probably not too long for now there will be another used EV on the Norwegian market nobody wants to buy as the masses get more in debt buying EV's.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
Same over here, giving first time owners instant buyers remorse
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
O.M.G. clothes and shoes, your right on the money LOL something most people don't discuss or think about, you really do know your stuff.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
thanks for watching
@BionicRusty
@BionicRusty 2 дня назад
Great video. 👍 Pointy shoe’d wideboys. Living near Chester, I see them all the time. God’s gift. 🤮
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
Right on
@jamesodd3896
@jamesodd3896 2 дня назад
Sealand road is full of them .
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy 2 дня назад
We are in the world of Orwell's 1984 Ministry of Truth now. If a 'Woman' can be a man in a wig with his wedding tackle fully in tact, then a 'New Car Sale' can be ANYTHING you want. LOL 🤣
@JeffPower-dv3zl
@JeffPower-dv3zl 2 дня назад
😂❤🎉😊
@graemejones9707
@graemejones9707 2 дня назад
There's one in the JLR showroom in Stockton. I had to try hard not to laugh. I failed.
@MillfieldWheels
@MillfieldWheels 2 дня назад
Barrie, I worked for Reg Vardy lot of years ago and I'm sure we were stopped from using "save £X on new price" by trading standards.
@brianholdsworth4788
@brianholdsworth4788 5 часов назад
Spot on Barrie! There’s going to be a big reckoning soon ….
@IanHski
@IanHski День назад
Hey Barrie, as a potential punter this smacks of opportunity. Electric would work for me as i can charge at home. So whats the best way to maximise the depteciation and balancing that with a great car? I have always avoided leasing cars as the lease companies are generally smart enough to make money out if the punter so i would fund from savings and 'pay myself back'. I tried a Kia Niro EV and liked the size and specs and the range so that would indicate where i would look.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton День назад
To be honest any EV will be ideal for you, especially if you intend to keep it for a few years, great bargains to be had, and if you can charge from home then they are cheap to run, if you can buy one, if you can buy one that is covered by warranty then your exposure is covered, I wouldn’t say they are great to drive, they just don’t seem to give you that immersive and emotive experience, but they are practical and efficient, sounds like an EV will suit your needs 👍
@AlanRoberts-xy4wu
@AlanRoberts-xy4wu День назад
Does anyone remember in late 1960's a tiny dealership with an unusual name next to the Fire Station in Withington,Manchester called Rapaport & Tonge ? They sold Hillman, Simca, Chysler brands.
@mikewhitehead50
@mikewhitehead50 2 дня назад
Last new car I bought the salesman was under such pressure to get me to take the tyre insurance out, they suggested banging a nail through the tyre when the tread gets low to get a ‘free’ new one. Major manufacturer, main dealer.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
Same thing happened to a Friend of mine, I’m sure the insurance company would love to hear that 😂
@simonreeves2017
@simonreeves2017 2 дня назад
Hi Barrie, greetings from Oxford. I have a 2019 BMW i3, not planning to change, but I do follow the market. I do think some EVs have very high depreciation, but much of this is the manufactures fault for setting unrealistic new prices for their EVs. One example is the Vauxhall Corsa, new, the EV is more than 50% more expensive than the combustion version, that’s just plane stupid, it’s a Corsa FFS! The other often sited example is the Porsche Taycan, but these cars have a poor reputation for reliability and build issues, they also have a relatively poor range for such an expensive car. Used car buyers tend to do more research than new car buyers, because they can’t afford to make bad purchase decisions. Good cars will retain their value better than poor cars.
@carlwilliams3488
@carlwilliams3488 2 дня назад
If a battery pack is £15k this is what you need to add to the price of the regular gas powered version as the cost of the power train on ev and gas is comparable (motor and speed controller vs engine and gearbox). The difference is you are adding 5000 18650 cells (@ £3 each) in a huge pack to power an ev vs a £50 empty plastic tank. So it is going to be massively more expensive.
@ineos23
@ineos23 2 дня назад
Excellent point about used car buyers.
@simonreeves2017
@simonreeves2017 2 дня назад
@@carlwilliams3488 Well an electric motor is significantly cheaper to make than a combustion engine, batteries are getting cheaper all the time. The main issue is the economics of scale. Legacy auto makers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Making low volumes of any vehicle configuration is expensive.
@wileywilson
@wileywilson День назад
Barrie. Thanks for the headsup re. AT Price Tracker. Awesome extension. Here's a random BMW I came across with a crazy number of price changes: Change - £640 (-3%) 13/10/2024 - £19,710 06/10/2024 - £19,570 27/09/2024 - £19,544 20/09/2024 - £18,760 16/09/2024 - £19,192 10/09/2024 - £19,920 06/09/2024 - £19,803 05/08/2024 - £19,880 05/07/2024 - £20,478 21/06/2024 - £19,921 20/06/2024 - £20,350 Down. Up. Down.... WTF.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton День назад
It’s a great app, I find it so useful
@jcfallows
@jcfallows 2 дня назад
The salesmen you mention usually have lots of gold on their fingers and gold bracelets, and gold chains around their necks.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton День назад
yes they do,
@tonimor9721
@tonimor9721 2 дня назад
If EV's depreciate at astronomical rates the manufacturers are going to have to cut their prices astronomically as well . How can Lease companies price their leases which are based at the moment on depreciation ? What is happening is catastrophic, car businesses just will not be able to plan at all , what a mess.
@Trevor_Austin
@Trevor_Austin 2 дня назад
You are correct about selling cars that suffer from high depreciation. Whilst it might not immediately affect the dealer selling the car, it will affect them in the long term. This is because the buyer will have reduced equity to buy cars in the future. You will have removed a potential buyer from the market for years to come. Now can anybody answer this question. There appears to be a new fashion in dealerships. You have a conversation with a salesperson followed by a test drive as you are having a chat with them, out pops your latest buddy who you have never met before, the Sales Manager. They are ask few pointless questions and scuttle off. Why? What is this all about? To me this is an instant ‘red flag’ and don’t buy here signal. A good manager employs good staff who they trust to make sensible decisions. The other old croc, is “I’ll just have to check with my manager.” Of course you can - but I’ll not be here when you get the answer. Same reason.
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 2 дня назад
yes exactly...that old "ill ask the manager" chestnut has well worn out. if the salesman is unable to make decisions relating to a sale, then he isn't a salesman is he! I'm out the door as soon as this nonsensical behaviour starts, I have no patience or time to be messed around by fools.
@jim373
@jim373 День назад
I have just purchased a new Jaguar I Pace from slightly more than half its list price. Therefore I feel I'm fairly well protected from depreciation and will keep it for about 5 years. My old I Pace dropped from about £83,000 down to be about £21,000 over 3 years and 45,000 miles, I.e. it lost about 75% of its value. I bought it on PCP over 4 years and Voluntarily Terminated the agreement. As I had paid more than 50% (taking into account my deposit, manufacturers contribution and my payments) I had nothing further to pay. If in 5 years the car is only worth about £10-12,000 (from its list price of £83,000) I won't be too upset considering what I have paid. I am assuming the garage want to get rid of all their Jaguar stock, and especially the EVs. I don't know why they have given such a large discount, but for me it has allowed me to buy another premium car for the price of a much more modest vehicle. P.S. I am retired and in a very small group of people where an EV is the right vehicle for my needs.
@MarkOne-l2k
@MarkOne-l2k 18 часов назад
I remember that advert! Brentford Nylons with Alan "Fluff" Freeman.was always next. Alright! 😁
@GrahamNewman-mq7gr
@GrahamNewman-mq7gr 2 дня назад
Barry . Remember the days " I WAS CONNED BY D.C. COOK" ( Yorkshire dealer" ) . King of the stitch you up merchants.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
yep, thats a name from the past
@GrahamNewman-mq7gr
@GrahamNewman-mq7gr 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton In the end Derek Cook got killed in the Mulssne tunnel on Sunday afternoon Monaco, driving a brand new Bently Continental . A motor trade aquaintance had driven down to him 2 hrs before.
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
People that believe depreciation does not affect them are wrong, we are all affected directly or indirectly by the things that happen around us.
@iansinclair7581
@iansinclair7581 2 дня назад
Barrie is it okay to take advantage of this depreciation? On Friday I will pick up an EV from my favourite car brand. 10 miles on the clock and 57% of its list price. I will be keeping it for a number of years if it goes well. Have I dodged the majority of the depreciation?
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
@@iansinclair7581 yep if it suits your needs, that’s great 👍
@James8406vv
@James8406vv 2 дня назад
Agree motorpoint adverts are misleading on cost saving. Also why are a lot of their cars sold with only 1 key!!
@matthewgodwin3050
@matthewgodwin3050 2 дня назад
Every time I'm introduced to an expert, I find myself looking into the eyes of someone who is absolutely clueless. All these so called 'experts' (yes, you Mr Wilson, and you Mr Llewelyn) who claim EVs are selling like hotcakes, forget that we can see how long these vehicles have been sitting in inventory.
@vandamonium1731
@vandamonium1731 2 дня назад
yesterday at 11.04am in morning my sisters 18 month old ev died on the drive... the recovery company took her car away 45 minutes ago the dealers rang her to say the charge controller had failed but its under warranty.. oh great she said and its going and the replacement part should be in between ................... January 17 to febuary the 10th shes now got a diesel loan car
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
I work at a ford dealer, I can see Mach 3s sit for 4-5 months waiting for parts.
@vandamonium1731
@vandamonium1731 2 дня назад
@@rbnhd1144 the issue they found is one of the terminals has broken but the can't just replace it the have to replace the whole cable
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
@@vandamonium1731 Thanks and Good Luck.
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
The cost of living crisis is over used in the U.K. I watch UK travel video's, if people were truly struggling people would not be going on Holidays like they are, My in laws are not wealthy and plead poverty at times but they are always off out off the country, so this cost of living crisis is being a term oversold by the media.
@davidcox3688
@davidcox3688 14 часов назад
Hi Barrie I as always agree with you. But I will never have one of these EVs .But if the government make you go to EVs I would probably go for the Hybrid, what's your view on those
@JackOfski
@JackOfski 2 дня назад
When I was transporting cars in and out of 'Trade Sales' in Slough I use to watch the salesmen from my cab waiting for their prey like a pack of hyenas and the gibberish nonsense that would come out of their mouths was a joke, the salesmen just wanted to sign that customer up to a finance deal/ extra warranty and breakdown cover for his extra commision, but more shocking were the amount of people who fell for it!!.
@daveb2wright
@daveb2wright 2 дня назад
Many moons ago I had cause to visit that dealer in East lancs. Sure enough they appeared to be a dumping ground for high mileage, one owner(rental) cars. They were late model cars and under manufacture warranty. So, they didn't even have the onerous duty of providing a warranty.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
yep, thats the stuff
@johnharcombe9412
@johnharcombe9412 2 дня назад
New corsa-e pre- registered £16,873 on autotrader. Save 10k on new price
@basilwatson1
@basilwatson1 2 дня назад
have ya not figured out why yet? why did they " push" the ev 15min cities? make driving more and more difficult?
@mikewhitehead50
@mikewhitehead50 2 дня назад
Yeah well, you were right. I've been concerned myself for some time, or at least curious if not concerned. Some of the things been done havn't made sense. The ZEV mandate is horrific.
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 2 дня назад
In reality, how would any car be being sold privately, that only had delivery miles on it?
@julesviolin
@julesviolin День назад
I've never believed ANY advertisements. It's pure brain washing ⚠️
@Anthony-vm1jc
@Anthony-vm1jc День назад
Soon it will be buy a diesel get a ev free😂
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 2 дня назад
Loathe, narrow, thin, pointy shoes.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
me too
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton not good for your feet either : )
@pippip8744
@pippip8744 2 дня назад
Weren't they called winklepickers in old money?
@lukebignell7846
@lukebignell7846 2 дня назад
For future content Barrie you know you can reduce the number of adverts before you upload. I currently have more adverts on your videos than anyone else’s. Adverts come up every 5 minutes and some are annoying ones that run for 30 seconds and you cannot skip.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
yes, it will be my only income in a few months time
@lukebignell7846
@lukebignell7846 2 дня назад
Starts video and straight to adverts- Advert 1: 20 seconds Advert 2: 15 seconds.
@David-bl1bt
@David-bl1bt 2 дня назад
yes, that's why you see thousands of videos spouting nonsense under the guise of click bait titles to entice the gullible. I'm a premium member so I pay to not have to endure the relentless tedium of adverts...then some youtubers, thinking they're smart, advertise by stealth featuring "channel sponsors " . it eventually creeps onto every youtubers channel as they clamber for more clicks to accelerate revenue and attract these sponsors. hey get into the endless circle of greed, having to produce more and more videos to keep up momentum, as a result they are forced to spout nonsense to get their view rates up ...as soon as "and todays sponsor is" is mentioned I unsubscribe.
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton You are pulling some good sponsors in the states, the last video was Cartier, I've never seen an ad for them on TV or tube you before, very classy lol.
@Fred-gu6pk
@Fred-gu6pk 2 дня назад
I got an Auto Trader ad, only one.
@mikewhitehead50
@mikewhitehead50 2 дня назад
Motorpoint have such confidence in Tesla they only have two in stock. If EV’s make up 25%, it won’t be thanks to them.
@FactTV-rj6sh
@FactTV-rj6sh 2 дня назад
simple facts are NEW cars are way way overpriced.. i see these idiots in new cars and despair as i see new cars outside a pokey rented house FFS what a joke its got..
@wileywilson
@wileywilson 2 дня назад
You get that a lot in Keighley & Bradford; fancy cars parked outside 2 bedroom terrace houses.
@Andy-zi1wj
@Andy-zi1wj 2 дня назад
How do you know it's not a company car?
@FactTV-rj6sh
@FactTV-rj6sh 2 дня назад
@@Andy-zi1wj yep could be i agree.. as they get our Tax money to fund the things lol
@PhatSimey
@PhatSimey 2 дня назад
Fancy car supermarket, is that an oxymoron? ;-)
@christineayres7199
@christineayres7199 2 дня назад
Also good advice dont buy a car that seems too good to be true , Good example i bought a 2013 Fiat 500 in a gorgeous Ferrari Yellow , the Lounge version with the panoramic roof Ac Electric mirrors windows built in sat nave alloys etc , the car looked like brand new not 1 mark on it , new exhaust brakes tyres , I thought oh this is great and only £3 grand when i bought it at the start of this year from a car supermarket type place so paid for it there and then which was a bad mistake , got home and a few days later clutch and gearbox went £1000 bill i was left with , took me 2 months to get half the repair cost back , dealer refused to give me the full cost of repairs but i just left it at that as taking a dealer to court would cost me £180 for starters then id have to wait months for the magistrates courts to see the case and would probably have got the full amount back but who has 6 months to wait around nowadays? Anyway i left the company a bad review and strangely enough they changed their name , this is another common bad dealer trick ,Anyway i think im stuck witht he 500 till death do us part now lol as its only worth £2 grand now thanks to the use car market falling off a cliff , I think thats more due to it being winter , no one ever buys cars in winter unless its an emergency.
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
Logic will always disprove a Lie. Barrie logic makes sense to me and he has the proof.
@shaungilmartin1505
@shaungilmartin1505 2 дня назад
Motorpoint are using the marketing they did when they could sell EU imports with a saving. When the pound crashed against the Euro and the Import thing dried up they switched to used vehicles.
@gdr38515
@gdr38515 2 дня назад
Barrie - please can you stop using an apostrophe when referring to a plural i.e. EV's means 'belonging' to said EV such as "the EV's colour was black with go-faster stripes." In contrast, "the cost of EVs has dropped this year by an average of £4,300. Otherwise, really enjoy your videos.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
I will try, but I can’t promise’s 😂
@michaelnarramore3415
@michaelnarramore3415 2 дня назад
Some wear Brothel creepers.
@Mr.Wrong1
@Mr.Wrong1 2 дня назад
I would absolutely buy a car from anyone wearing creepers. Just saying...
@EP-mc5hx
@EP-mc5hx 2 дня назад
motorpoint website shows 2 teslas for sale, 18k white 2020 and grey 2020 for 20K , how old this that screenshot Barrie? and why is there only 2 left?
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
they were all dated, January 2023 when things went badly wrong they had 90 teslas, they got their fingers burned and quickly learned their lesson
@EP-mc5hx
@EP-mc5hx 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton 4 year old Teslas are selling for 20K maybe even less depending on mileage. I don't see how pointing out something this morning about the EV market nearly 2 years ago is relevant today?
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 2 дня назад
@@EP-mc5hx Its all relevant pal.
@Andy-zi1wj
@Andy-zi1wj 2 дня назад
Depreciation effect's all cars some more than other here's my example 2023 Audi A4 Avant 35 tfsi comfort and sound pack July 2023 £36,600 list price October 2024 15,000 miles £20,000 p/X value it's not just EVs
@MrSonicAdvance
@MrSonicAdvance 2 дня назад
That online spat was from 2023, Barrie. You must have fallen out with these people since then. 😋
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
that was just to illustrate how EV's went wrong, and how fast they went wrong
@eddewhurst7662
@eddewhurst7662 2 дня назад
If EV depreciation has eviscerated the confidence of the motor trade, shows that the motor trade is working on old assumptions. Depreciation of all cars is currently very high. Most people who buy or lease new EVs get generous tax benefits, this depresses the second hand value, on top of that the technology is improving making people worried about obsolescence and have a much wider choice of new cars. It will take some time for this to settle down, but it will.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
This is the worst I have ever seen the motor trade hit, and we don’t even know the full extent, so I don’t know what job you do, but I live and breath the motor trade 👍
@eddewhurst7662
@eddewhurst7662 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCramptonEVs are never going to be good for the motor trade, most money made from servicing and repairs much less needed with EVs. Tesla’s direct selling another challenge.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
@@eddewhurst7662 you are kidding, have you seen the service, and repair bills, warranty companies are already complaining that repairs are 30 to 50% dearer, and god help you if you need bodywork 😂
@eddewhurst7662
@eddewhurst7662 День назад
@@BarrieCrampton Cannot find UK information, from Us NADA website Outside of maintenance, all vehicles require repairs. Based on a no-deductible extended warranty, EVs averaged $1,712 in repair costs over five years, while ICE vehicles averaged $1,695. Servicing was $300 cheaper so EVs cheaper overall.
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 дня назад
the secondhand market for Tesla is pretty good !
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable 2 дня назад
got yourself a sub
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
thanks for watching
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton that which can be destroyed by the truth should be. keep up the great work chap!
@Critical_Stinking
@Critical_Stinking 2 дня назад
Winkle pickers.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
yep, the new version
@andrewdennis8404
@andrewdennis8404 2 дня назад
Are we seeing the calapse of the who of the motor trade in the Weston world. I been to china there quality of build and design is a head of the west and can produce product to a high quality and at a cheap price.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop 19 часов назад
TLDW...
@Anthony-vm1jc
@Anthony-vm1jc День назад
Getting a auto trader ad while watching you 😂 don’t think there hitting the right demographic bud 👍✌️
@AdamHiley-k7k
@AdamHiley-k7k 2 дня назад
Apart from the Tesla most EVs are ugly
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 дня назад
*In the future all vehicles will be electric*
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
If the car trade survives
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 2 дня назад
​@@BarrieCramptonPhotography is still very much alive, Kodak is long since gone though. 😉
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
@@djtaylorutube good to know👍
@michaelnarramore3415
@michaelnarramore3415 2 дня назад
Most EV owners fell for the snake oil jab marketing no doubt.
@MikeJones-mz5ig
@MikeJones-mz5ig 2 дня назад
There is no catastrophic EV depreciation. There is used car depreciation. Ever tried to trade in a car? There is no difference. Please please please, point me in the direction of a late model cheap EV. I'm waiting.
@douglasmorris8364
@douglasmorris8364 2 дня назад
My 21 EV is £6000 cheaper now than when I bought one year ago. That's forecourt price, the trade in price is even more horrific! That's a big hit. My 19 MX5 is worth the same now as it was was last year. In 50 years of owning car my EV has by far lost the most money. Some of my cars I have sold for more than I bought them for.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
you are kidding i take it?
@MikeJones-mz5ig
@MikeJones-mz5ig 2 дня назад
@@douglasmorris8364 so an ice car is different how.
@MikeJones-mz5ig
@MikeJones-mz5ig 2 дня назад
@@BarrieCrampton no I'm still waiting for the bargain. Can you forward it.
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
this should keep you going for a while 😂 www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Electric&maximum-mileage=100&postcode=pr54ea&sort=most-recent&year-to=2024
@maxflight777
@maxflight777 2 дня назад
*This is what pisses me off about the Tesla haters:* If had stood on my driveway, with my friends, and said; My new car has 500HP, O-60 in 3.6s but does 110mpg and is silent. It doesn’t need services and has more interior space than the X5 it replaced …. They would all be agast. Impressed beyond belief… But when I say it’s a Tesla, they all sneer and get very grumpy! Petulant child-like. “Elon should shut his bloody mouth” “That thing will catch fire” “Doesn’t he support Trump?” “Car parks can’t stand the weight” “It depreciates fast” “Takes hours to charge” “You’ll need new batteries in two years and they cost £30K” “You can’t cross Europe in it” *Utter imbeciles…*
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 2 дня назад
the only imbecile is the one who thinks that they haven't depreciated fast, and for every thing peopl say about Teslas that is wrong or exaggerated, believe me its nothing to the kind of vitriol that Range Rovers get, probably from people like you
@nsweeney3970
@nsweeney3970 2 дня назад
Your friends are right. You should listen to them more often instead of calling them utter imbeciles. A person who's friends are "all imbeciles" is unquestionably a person with a massive superiority complex and zero self awareness.
@MarkWistow
@MarkWistow 2 дня назад
Doesn't need services ? How nieve !!!!!!
@tonimor9721
@tonimor9721 2 дня назад
So your EV does 110mpg . Save a fortune on fuel do you lose a bigger fortune on depreciation and Insurance ? They are fine if you can afford one , but there are many drawbacks at the moment .
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 2 дня назад
​@@MarkWistowYep, Tesla has a service schedule and it's published on the website. This is often mis-claimed. It's "doesn't require regular servicing as a condition of maintaining the warranty and any servicing is discretionary and on demand."
@realreviews4017
@realreviews4017 День назад
You forgot the 'very'' skinny trousers with the pointy shoes!
@BarrieCrampton
@BarrieCrampton 15 часов назад
Oh, yes,
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