How Champions League teams figured Arsenal & Manchester City out

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Welcome to The Athletic FC's RU-vid channel, where best-in-class journalism meets video.
Arsenal and Manchester City enter the second leg of the quarterfinals of the 2023-24 Champions League with all to play for.
Mikel Arteta's side drew 2-2 against Bayern Munich at home, while Pep Guardiola's men drew 3-3 in spectacular fashion against a surging Real Madrid.
What tactical lessons can we learn from the first leg games and how will the managers change their plans going into the second leg?
Joe Devine, JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie dig deep into the tactics and try to predict who will be crowned the Kings of Europe.
This is The Athletic's Week in Football.
#arsenal #championsleague #premierleague
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:55 Arsenal 2 - 2 Bayern
01:16 How Bayern changed their gameplan against Arsenal
06:54 Arsenal's Build-up Woes
08:43 Who will win the second leg?
10:46 Real Madrid 3 - 3 Man City
11:26 Real v City Tactical Comparison
14:52 Applied Tactics
16:29 Which team's tactics gave them the upper hand?
19:18 PSG 2 - 3 Barcelona
19:38 Pau Cubarsi has the Wau Factor
21:22 How do you stop Kylian Mbappe?
25:12 Barcelona's New Blood
28:13 Atletico 2 - 1 Dortmund
29:19 Who will win the Champions League?
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@hamidalbertoabudrussell9703 Месяц назад

I missed this trio so much. Their tactical analysis is second to none in today’s pundit landscape, and they do so while being funny.

@gentleken7864 Месяц назад

It's clear that The Athletic thought they were too silly and wanted only boring analysis. It's clear having someone like Adam Levanthal chairing the videos what they're after.

@viktoredv Месяц назад

Just need it as a podcast...

@isahamilton01 Месяц назад

The Jon Joe JJ trio is too powerful. Nothing else on youtube can match their abilities of football analysis. I’ve really been enjoying the new graphics, they’re all perfectly used and aren’t intrusive whatsoever. Kudos 👏

@chinortega3 Месяц назад

The jjj

@manniking233 Месяц назад

UCL gives us these guys for two consecutive weeks. Let's not take that privilege for granted. I miss these guys together but I'll take what I can get...

@tianruixiao9239 Месяц назад

17:20 a rare laugh from Director Joe. I know we all love the tactical analysis but its the ridiculous questions that makes me love you guys.

@snake0sena Месяц назад

“I wasn’t in France” “no but the players were” 😂😂

@SWJ808 Месяц назад

17:17 god I love Devine

@Audiostyleable Месяц назад

As the everyman I would like to highlight that the videos from the athletic are 10x better with Joe devine

@leothecat9609 Месяц назад

MORE OF THIS

@clivepalmer3545 Месяц назад

Quality Arsenal assessment. I would mid block Bayern next time and jump on occasion Give them no transition - their keeper is too good in buildup

@YomsterFUT13 Месяц назад

EXACTLY i think we olay how we did vs City but more attacking and in a more expressive nature plus we'll have martinelli as an outlet. Bayern were great but feel we played into their hands so this time being away the onus will be on them. Plus this season i feel were a better team when we need to play for a draw and lock in defensively with saliba, gabriel and rice @6 (which is where he should be 2nd leg) and then keep a clean sheet first and then go try score. Arteta taking a leaf from his FA Cup Winning defensive run days and also a tad bit Simeone inspired. Tuchel got arteta first leg imo but 2nd i feeel like Mikel finally gets his statement win on the european stage. AC Milan '08 Stuff 🤞🏾🤞🏾

@Vociferous Месяц назад

“How will managers change their plans going into the second leg” A plan that wasn’t was the fact that there wasn’t much defending happening for any tie, you cannot sit deep and invite oppositional pressure in the away leg, whilst not comfortably being in a position.

@Kaysfrancis Месяц назад

You guys are incredible. I can listen to you all day

@jg7088 Месяц назад

It tells us that one manager is bald

@drex5160 Месяц назад

But which one tho? 🤔

@winter_silhouette Месяц назад

Pep is just taller than his hair.

@ChadYu Месяц назад

Perhaps we can infer that bald men are cute? 🤔

@robinthebobin6537 Месяц назад

Pep's bald cap just hasn't broken yet. One day there'll be a strong gust of wind and it'll be revealed that he actually has long ginger hair (probably)

@mikaelvaldezco3983 Месяц назад

just glad that Joe is back

@emmanuelonyono4517 Месяц назад

Great analysis bros for giving us deep understanding of the games.

@debagniksen7809 Месяц назад

Joe's voice is music in the ears

@Sincerely.Eben. Месяц назад

These guys are just the best at talking about Football ⚽

@deenofm3620 Месяц назад

This content is absolutely brilliant guys! Please keep this up and make it as often as physically possible… Seriously I cannot get enough of your guys analysis. So thorough, so well done, please like this video and share it so that it is financially feasible for these guys to pump this content out!

@zachmartin5647 Месяц назад

Awesome editing. It made it super engaging

@tomdadude444 Месяц назад

This lot would make an engaging podcast

@flickchic238 Месяц назад

These analyses are so great. I've learned so much about each team's tactics that can go unnoticed when watching their games in real-time. To be honest, I don't think Real Madrid's tactics are strong enough to defeat Man City. Madrid can score goals but when it comes to structure, I think City would have the advantage.

@malevellysian Месяц назад

jj's promo at the end instead of joe sounds like a drunk homeless person snuck himself into the studio:/

@jarretc110 Месяц назад

i'm so glad the athletic are here to tell me what to think.

@thomasdavies2555 Месяц назад

Love hearing yall talk…hi from Santa Barbara

@dshannon565 Месяц назад

Bayern sitting back against arsenal is more reflective of bayerns form this season. If Bayern were running away with the league and were consistent I think they would’ve imposed their game on arsenal. Bayerns team is better than arsenal man for man in my opinion so they should look to impose themselves on arsenal. Arsenal are a very beatable side. On Barca I’d love to see a video on gavi on why he so good. I personally don’t rate him that highly. He doesn’t score, assists, play key passes, dictate the game or dribble so he’s not effective going forward even though he plays high up the pitch. Yes he presses well but once he gets the ball he needs to be effective.

@cameronjones8641 Месяц назад

You guys are the best 👌🏼

@StephenIbegbu-qj7gh Месяц назад

But Enrique didn’t even help Mbappe He put him out wide when he’s meant to be in the Mbappe zone with Nuno Mendes out wide This is the same problem Arsenal are having with Martinelli These run in behind goal getters like Rashford, Mbappe, Son and Martinelli have no reason to be held out wide They’ll be limited in the game

@athreyathandeswaran7510 Месяц назад

Pedri, Gavi, Cubarsi, Yamal, Balde, Fort, Faye, Guille, Roque

@anshumansahu1087 Месяц назад

Foden, Rico Lewis, Claudio Echeverri, Oscar Bobb, Gvardiol, Doku, McAtee, Savinho, Yan Couto, Julian Alvarez, Haaland. With one of Wirtz/Musiala possibly inbound, the future is indeed very interesting.

@athreyathandeswaran7510 Месяц назад

@@anshumansahu1087Finley Gorman as well. Olise can join City. You also have Perrone. Neves can join City.

@anshumansahu1087 Месяц назад

@@athreyathandeswaran7510 Yes. Man City are seriously scouting Ruben Neves. Finley Gorman is a gem City brought from leeds recently.

@bread3017 Месяц назад

@@anshumansahu1087 Very unlikely Wirtz or Musiala will join

@ChimwaniJohn Месяц назад

Who are these guys

@exgonzo64 Месяц назад

loving this new format

@grid462 Месяц назад

I think I recall John Stones basically being hailed as the MVP for City last season. How devastating have his absences been this season? Or has he no longer been as critical to the team?

@aka_jr Месяц назад

For the culture, I need an Arsenal - Barcelona UCL final

@Montyweb Месяц назад

That would be epic

@doodah111 Месяц назад

To avenge the injustice of 2006

@theo-go3br Месяц назад

How poetic would it be to beat Porto (a good historical matchup for Arsenal), Bayern (a terrible historical matchup for Arsenal), Real (the literal greatest UCL club OAT), or City (their modern archnemesis and title holders), and finally Barcelona (for obvious reasons).

@jakubcygan8265 Месяц назад

I'd bet my house on Arsenal in that game, but I won't bet it on them getting to the final

@marsx5886 Месяц назад

Welp

@fis9836 Месяц назад

❤❤❤ great vid ;D

@dannysnooze Месяц назад

can someone tell me what pad they are using and what app they are using to run the tactics board and analytics on games?

@buzzjens1 Месяц назад

These three men are the best football analysts itw

@pozsoz Месяц назад

The quadruple J combo strikes again. I love you guys. Thanks

@lyndonroper6013 Месяц назад

Jon's Central Cordoba sweat is rad

@siddharthsehgal620 Месяц назад

such a great video

@AmarRanaDeshmukh Месяц назад

More of these please

@Pipemurillo12 Месяц назад

More Tifo hosts in the podcast please, love these guys beyond belief. I always thought the Athletic has sub-utilized their charisma into their business strategy

@kevinonyedikachukwu564 Месяц назад

Great analysis

@barca-vibe Месяц назад

This tifo irl crew needs to do more barca content… only sensible analyst in the athletic

@Untold-Football Месяц назад

John didn’t want that Arsenal fan angst 😂, finally you guys trusting the process 👌🏾

@jbri1 Месяц назад

@gabrielguerrero3404 Месяц назад

Try telling pep that. He’s the most stubborn manager in the world. After watching man city this whole season I can say that if a 500 minute match existed with unlimited substitutions and man city conceded in the 1st min without being able to score until the 499th minute pep wouldn’t change a thing over that much time(talking about style of play not substitutions )

@michaelfincham7306 Месяц назад

I believe they call it 'probing'.

@andytupman9874 Месяц назад

love John's final point of that arsenal would lose to city in the next round even though they have played each other 3 times this year with arsenal winning 2 of them and the other being a 0-0 draw

@willyum3920 Месяц назад

I really get the feeling JJ is in mourning for what he's lost from the old days. I absolutely love him but I want them back and let off the leash to sing songs about a frog who could kill a man and redesign the super league. .... ok I might be projecting but that is what I see in JJ. Love you man 👍

@sjeskey8361 Месяц назад

Man i wonder if these 3 would work well in some sort of podcast format???

@wdred Месяц назад

So JJ is kinda saying that Real, particularly on the left side were using relationism?

@MrElias2002 Месяц назад

These guys are much better than the so called pundits on Sky, ESPN and CNBC.

@sami3648 Месяц назад

This is the football podcast dream team

@ibrahimadat Месяц назад

Gosh I really get frustrated by Jon mckinzies analysis, it’s classic example of arrogance of someone that understands a small aspect of something (tactics) but regularly misses the larger point. He’s so obsessed by in possession control that he thinks for some reason it’s superior, when it’s not. The best champions league teams never play like that, with two notable exceptions, Barcelona with messi and city last year which wasn’t even traditional in possession control. The reason it’s so successful in a league format is because it maintains possession against teams of considerably lower quality, reducing them to a few high quality chances rather than sustained attacks. At the business end of the champions league against the best teams it’s quite clearly suboptimal and actually makes the teams a bit toothless

@pranaychaturvedi7311 Месяц назад

Jon, JJ, Joe partnership is like prime Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo

@arfung9871 Месяц назад

Best trio

@DanielS10291 Месяц назад

Omg is this the podcast back?

@MrOMGWTFROFL1 Месяц назад

Oh baby, TIFO is back

@beerd__af Месяц назад

The removal of the away goals rule makes both of the first leg games almost pointless. means the 2nd leg starts at 0-0

@andrewquick1609 Месяц назад

Bloody fantastic you trio of jackanapes

@josephashipala6249 Месяц назад

I think Man city did well against Madrid cause u can see at the end of the game that Madrid where scard

@abukhalidali1823 Месяц назад

Let's see

@jamesleiper6399 Месяц назад

Whilst both games were on I and probably John were watching Leeds draw nil nil

@AbdallahAyman-mz4uf Месяц назад

Both Are Out LOL

@alfflasymphonyx Месяц назад

In regards to MBAPPE, the M is silent so pronounce it BAPPE. 😇

@himdamnself Месяц назад

Latest homegrown players. And someone had to mention Harry Kane.

@DavidLimofLimReport Месяц назад

What's with these Sat morning releases?

@jbri1 Месяц назад

Is that Doe Jevine?

@vishalchatterjee7510 Месяц назад

Funny how both John and JJ took arsenal qualifying for granted.

@snoopos Месяц назад

Do they do this analysis on other teams? Proper giving other teams' analysts on how to beat Arsenal 😅

@koutanot Месяц назад

Bayern can barely cope with arsenal in second half. Not sure what u mean

@garyanderton Месяц назад

Sup ma guy

@allantoxic-101k Месяц назад

The only problem about Arsenal vs Bayern previous game ,is that Arteta forgot that Bayern winger can run faster than kiwior..Arsenal can win in Munich 2-1

@Dmaj089 Месяц назад

Can they? 😂

@theach84 Месяц назад

8:45 Too many Arsenal fans exaggerate the defensive “problem” of Zinchenko while completely dismissing how he makes our whole team better. He literally does not give away that many goals. He makes the first second phase of our buildup much better. Arteta knows better and keeps trusting him.

@robinthebobin6537 Месяц назад

Agreed, after seeing how Arteta's revitalised our club over the last few years, I'm inclined to believe he probably knows what he's doing.

@MrYisus217 Месяц назад

he forgot that he was defending against aston villa, bailey's goal

@weeds56 Месяц назад

Brill

@benharmon7369 Месяц назад

PEDRI! PEDRI! PEDRI! PEDRI!

@maulanna Месяц назад

JONNN MCKENZIE!!!!

@1972adamw Месяц назад

How delicious would it be...if PSG and Real Madrid meet in the Finals?

@chrishoward8500 Месяц назад

Drawing in Madrid is being figured out? Guess City were figured out last year too

@kingkenzokwansa Месяц назад

6:40 if you're going to name drop the culprits for the goal why not mention your countryman Rice as well? He has been awful since coming back from the international break with England

@FlashMeterRed Месяц назад

No. Champions league teams have Champions league-level attacks

@shadowside8433 Месяц назад

The chess game continues...

@medelalmi Месяц назад

19:00 so i'm an analyst then ? thanks

@arunnm24 Месяц назад

Joe fighting the good fight to keep the goofiness alive

@sewaeric Месяц назад

But u stopped making game tactical analysis on tifo

@chrisgarty Месяц назад

@13:55 Joe really trying to derail JJ with all the comments about probing and penetration 😆

@ChriSX13 Месяц назад

i was today years old when i learned that you cannot be offside in your own half

@lukew6725 Месяц назад

Just wait until you find out that you can't score an own goal from a free kick. 😆

@lowersaxon Месяц назад

Kluba Inglada a desappontionada alla matckas futballa Europea! Arsenala 2:2 a nixa sufficantionada. Chancka minimalia a stadione Allianza inda Municha. Leverpola a una katastropa extravaganza alla historia kluba. Nixa chancka alla secondo lego! Sola Manchesteria City a una gutska chancka forn secondo lego recka semifinalia! Takse mycke. Thank you much. Vielen Dank.

@bhvithai5327 Месяц назад

I can only imagine that if Grealish were a UAP, he would both probe and penetrate.

@theromalepe8600 Месяц назад

The Man City prediction has aged poorly already 😂

@IggyGoesPop666 Месяц назад

The Athletic guys ... can you do a show about the Mickey Mouse David Moyes defeatist so called tactics???

@dookula Месяц назад

Martin Erdagore

@shottskies Месяц назад

It will be a miracle if Madrid beat city in a few hours I feel… hurts me to say though

@gravy3858 Месяц назад

For a random American: do you think JJ Bull would be hard to understand? His accent doesn’t seem TOO strong to me.

@callmedo Месяц назад

No, he is not hard to understand. But I can understand Carragher with no problem also so maybe it's just me haha

@R.Mousasi Месяц назад

Im not a native speaker and can follow him easy. So for an American should be easy

@cescabhi Месяц назад

LOL the disrespect to dortmund, barely spoken about for 2 minutes

@Epsilon04 Месяц назад

Never deserve any respect ever again after how they threw the title away last season. Pathetic club.

@Al-Brewster Месяц назад

Spoiler alert for the second leg

@samwalker8821 Месяц назад

❤

@jbri1 Месяц назад

Unbelievable, Joe and Jon using long words like deferential

@Ruony24 Месяц назад

What's a Dune Too, guys ?

@wycliffenyangate5018 Месяц назад

a PROBE and a PENETRATION.

@danielseddon5213 Месяц назад

I'm all for infographics, but this is too busy on-screen to watch and enjoy. For me at least. Felt like watching guardiola's recent press conferences with the moving billboards behind him.

@danielseddon5213 Месяц назад

P.s. loved the analysis though

@xykostorm Месяц назад

Agreed. Over edited - still good- but too much

@donukb Месяц назад

Yeah, that's fair. This will be improved on for next week. Thanks for your input and thanks for watching!

@liamness Месяц назад

But without these graphics, how will people who don't know what the word "deferential" means follow along with the discussion?

@Cbb3225 Месяц назад

As a casual fan, I appreciated the insight into tactics I hear often but don’t really know like pressing styles

@athreyathandeswaran7510 Месяц назад

Bayern, City, Atleti and PSG thru imo PSG winning the whole thing. Kane bottling in the final.

@liesideways Месяц назад

Zero ball knowledge

@lukew6725 Месяц назад

Lmao, PSG in the ucl is more likely to bottle than Kane. 😂

@rolitshindane5742 Месяц назад

Sign of respect but also I think it highlights a problem arsenal have in the LHS of team. Xhaka was not properly replaced and it's affecting martinelli. Rotating LB's hasn't helped either. We're loosided team which means we're easier to stop. Hence the struggles in build up, it's down to the lack of a proper left 8