King Charles III and his consort, Camilla, are not known to be related. However, they in fact are related to one another. Stay tuned in this video to find out exactly how, and why they are related! Music credit: David Ross Lawn - Vigil
I have known this for ages. I was a student of English history and very familial with the bloodlines of the monarchy of Great Britain. One of his (Edward VII) many mistresses was the mother of Winston Churchill. Jennie Jerome an American who married the second son of the Duke of Marlborough. Good video.
I've read, many years ago, that Camilla told Prince Charles that they were destined because her great grandmother was the mistress of Edward VII. (Still trying to absorb the title of King Charles) 🙄
It's funny if Elizabeth did not want her son to take Camila as his wife because they are/ could be cousins when Elizabeth and Philip were also cousins... TWICE 😅
It was the Catholic lineage - to Charles II, and yet Liz2 named her son after a Catholic king...was this a token "good will" gesture to unite all faiths under the English flag? Superficial unless they return our land and monasteries and gold, acquired not by plunder but by sacrifice and work over centuries.
Philip and Elizabeth were second cousins once removed (as well as third cousins), so it's highly unlikely that she would oppose a Charles and Camilla marriage when their relationship is exactly the same. Besides, cousin marriage is normal in royal history. Lady Diana Spencer and Sarah Ferguson were third cousins, so William and Harry are the maternal fourth cousins of Beatrice and Eugenie as well as paternal first cousins.
I know this fact but i know an other fact about Queen Camila's genealogy tree : she is the decendant of Charles II and his mistress Louise of Penancoët. Charles II and Louise had Charles Lennox, the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grand-father of Camilla and Charles Lennow was also the great-grandfather of one of George III's mistresses.
@@DeirdreMcNamara The Catholic vs. Protestant began with Henry viii (8th -the guy who had so many wives) Then Henry's son *Edward vi* (Protestant) the *Mary 1st* ("Bloody Mary" -- Catholic, then *Elizabeth 1st* (Protestant) The Catholic prohibition began in the time of the Stuart king James ii (who was also James vii of Scotland. And he was the son of Mary Queen of Scots) James ii 's second wife was a Roman Catholic and he had a son (called "The Old Pretender" by Brits.) The Old Pretender's son was Bonnie Prince Charlie. James ii first wife had been Protestant and had 2 surviving children *Mary* (married to Wiiliam, Prince of Orange, of the Netherlands) and *Anne* (married to Prince George of Denmark) *William and Mary* ruled jointly; *Anne* ruled on her own. The next king was *George* *1st* , Elector of Hanover (a German kingdom) Then his descendants: *Geo. ii* *Geo.iii* The following king was *Geo. iv* (4th) and finally king William iv (Both were sons of Geo. iii.) The next monarch was *Queen Victoria* "Victoria was the daughter of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn (and the fourth son of King George III)" - Wiki George iii was the British king who lost the American colonies.
@@here_we_go_again2571 May be but if they want to keep the throne in the family, Charles could have married a member closer to him : for me it's a love marriage. And keep the throne in the family is more a tradition for queens
@@alexandrehurbain9736 UK is a constitutional monarchy. The monarch reigns (as head of state) but he/she does not rule (as in having political power -- That power belongs to the PM and the Parliament) Marrying a relative ("a member closer to him") would produce inbred children. Not a good idea! British royals used to marry, in an arranged marriage, other European royals, who were (and still are) required to be a Protestant (per the UK constitution) and who join the Church of England. The throne stays in the Windsor family so long as the monarch has a LEGAL heir. If the monarch is a queen; her husband is not given the title of king. He becomes the "Prince-Consort." (Per Britain's constitution) He is also given a British title, "Duke of ..." the title is not hereditary. The British king's wife is legally known as the "Queen-Consort" if the king's mother is still alive she is known as the "Dowager Queen" In the case of Elizabeth ii ... The media began to call Elizabeth's mother "the Queen-Mum" (i.e. "Queen-Mother") because Elizabeth's grandmother (Mary wife of Geo. v) was still alive and known as the Dowager Queen. Example: Prince Philip was born a prince of the Greek-Danish royal family. He was never known as "king Philip" He was always known as Prince Philip or the Duke of Edinburgh. Had he not been born of royal blood, he would still be known as the "Prince-Consort" and a "Duke of ..."
Interesting indeed. Being distantly related and not being first cousins with the added generation of being "removed" there really isn't any cause for alarm. Then of course the likelihood of the couple to bare children wouldn't violate any real or assumed British law if there were such. It's a small world and the presumed royal lines makes it even smaller. Being Royal adjacent ot is the "Removed" that makes it all the less important. I discovered this fact while tracing a family rumor to dispell any connection to the royal family only to discover that indeed the connection is valid. It was during this process I segwayed off onto the the possibility the couple might be related. However, again the connection is there but yet removed. No surprise there. Thanks for sharing. Love your channell
He also conveniently forgets that they do not share the great grandmother Alexandra, the "2nd cousins once removed" should have a "by half" added, which statistically is like adding a generation. And how inbred is Camilla?
Do you really know what "removed" means genetically? It means that there is an extra generation on one side of the cousin relationship. The Queen and Camila are purportedly exact 2nd cousins as they both descend 3 generations from Edward VII. Charles being one generation down is "once removed" from being her exact 2nd cousin.
@@DrLeroyArch do You know the meaning of "by half" ? That the fact that Elizabeth and Camilla are , fact, descended from two different women who perhaps had children by the same man? It has the same effect as adding a generation genetically/statistically. Mathematical Statistics and Combinatorics is a field of Mathematics that was in part written by geneticists. So again, the probability of sharing genes for half siblings are half of that of full siblings who share both parents, so 1st cousins after halfsiblings are like 2nd cousins, 2nd cousins by half are like 3rd cousins, and so on.
I knew this, and I knew because I'm an Anglophile and also an historian (my field of speciality isn't English history; that's just a passion I've had for going on fifty years now).
Excellent research. You can see it in photographs. Yes, I had already heard that when the queen blessed their later-in-life (past Camilla's reproduction) marriage.
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I agree with this scenario of Charles and Camilla. This relationship dawned on me as I studied Royal Family History. I guess none of us can prove it completely, but we can stand by our find unless somehow proved otherwise. I highly doubt that. I also can see how Charles would want the Great Grand Daughter of King Ed 7 on the throne as maybe a "wink" of sorts to GrandDad? Just a thought
There is a man who lives in Ausralia (or in that part of the world) who has good reason to bekueve he is the son of Charles and Camilla when they were much younger. He looks very like Camilla, was told by his adoptive parent/s and the parents used to work for the royals. He has tried to ask for DNA test but sadly they ignore him. There seems a good chance he is their son. He looks exhausted from the stress of trying to prove he is telling the truth for decades. Very sad.
He's better off forgetting about it. The BBC hunted down the true king of England a descendant of the Plantagenet king living a normal but comfortable life in Oz, seemed about 50 and in good health...two or three years later he was dead... no major fanfare, found out accidentally...
It seems very cold to do that , if this is true the. Both know it to be true ,and he is indeed their son , has t there been enough turbulence in their relationship over the years ? If they know this not to be true would t it be kinder to make this know at least to this man sorry I forgot his name ,but am aware of him . The RF . And I suppose the aristocracy as a whole seem to be unemotional It would hardly be a scandal , I’m sure after the Harkles behaviour over last years and with the the late queen now sadly gone . How would it hurt anything ,simply ignoring this poor man has certainly taken a toll on this poor man .this king is supposed to be the head of the Church of England, wouldn’t the Christian thing to do be to help resolve this ? They are married now and crowned king and queen, everything that Charles wanted perhaps it’s time to be charitable and allow the truth to be known ,not necessarily to the public , But to this man who has suffered being shunned doesn’t everyone deserve to know who their parents are or are not .imo
Actually they are "half" second cousins once removed, since they only share one common ancestor (putting aside other possible much more distant relationships, e.g. Charles II).
I've long known about the Alice Keppel affair, though didn't know that she'd had a child via Edward VII. I always thought Charles hadn't married Camilla back in the '70s purely because he's a bit of a dilettante - couldn't be bothered with getting tied down so early. She got parked into a marriage of convenience (how do her children feel about it?) so that she and Charles could carry on as before, ie never destined to be formalised. Once divorce and remarriage got normalised in the Royals, they decided that they might as well get married after all. As for the inbreeding factor in the Royals, I've long thought that Elizabeth's outbred child ought to have inherited from her just to continue the outbreeding, but that would have required the extinguishment of both Charles and Anne and their respective progeny (and I've also long thought that the most suitable heir would have been Anne anyway). Andrew's paternity being the subject of a 99-year rule since 1960 and the fact that he's a spitting image of Elizabeth's one-time racehorse trainer is glaring evidence and it's hardly a secret.
It is by no means certain that Alice had a child by Edward. And Camilla married her first husband bc she was in love with him and wanted nothing more than a quiet country life.
Also Queens son Edward not fathered by Prince Philip - I saw a photo of his real father years ago sent to me by a friend online and they are like twins. I was a bit taken aback that the 'perfect' queen had at least two of her children by men other than Philip. The public image of royals is complete fraud.
I don't mean this in a negative light, but the smaller the gene pool, the greater the likelihood of two individuals being related. England is an island. At least in those days, the likelihood of people to venture far from their own lands the more likely they would be marrying members of their own extended family. Some more extended than others.
I certainly knew that Alice Keppel was a mistress of the King, and I'm sure I heard rumours that Camilla may have been related to Charles. Honestly I just thought all of these noble families had similar sorts of family trees. It leaves a funny taste in my mouth but it's not illegal. Elizabeth II was related to Prince Philip.
I just watched my first video of yours about King Charles being inbred. It was a bit confusing but you've put it all together nicely! Great work 👍🏼 You have yourself a new subscriber here!
It well known! Camilla's first EVER conversation with Charles at the polo game where they met, was about how Alice was his great-great grandfather's mistress! It is available all over themedia even if people don't put the facts together. I want to know the inbreeding of William and Harry and their kids!
I wondered if they were somehow related. If you look at the facial structure of Camilla and Queen Elizabeth, you will see very similar bone-facial structure. They look like they are related.
Does it matter? They're only second cousins, there's no law against them marrying, if they had had children the chances of birth-defects caused by inbreeding would be minimal, and even that small chance doesn't matter as they are both well passed child-bearing age, and were not married when they could have had kids.
People get ridiculous about the aristocracy marrying relations. Working people in centuries before married people they met within walking distance so most people will have ancestors who were closely related. The difference is it isn't carefully recorded beyond official birth certificates which began in the 1850s.
This is the first time I have heard about their being cousins. Everything else I have seen is about how long they have known each other and their relationship.
I watched a video about Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, and his wife Birgitte, Duchess of Gloucester on the Modest Narratives channel. At least they are 200% normal lol
The video is marked as lasting 8:02, so why is the final 2:00 just music. If all your videos only last three quarters as long as the published time, then that could be the reason people are not bothering to subscribe, as they may feel they are getting less content than published. This is just my observation. l think many people are aware, if l (in NO way am l remotely a Royalist, knew of this fact), as for some strange reason this video came up in my notifications. 🌹
You will be surpirsed to learn then that Camilla was actually far more popular with people who knew her than Diana. To know Camilla is to very much like Camilla.
@@alexr6114 Charles & Camilla deceived Diana even when Diana and Charles were 'courting'; Diana knew about the affair after a while and it made her very very unhappy. She was killed because she went public with her findings and did not just tolerate it like so many royal women apparently do. I am not a fan of royals who are rich because of centuries of theft from the people and looting of other countries (royals still involved in this even now but not openly & Charles is a leader of the World Economic Forum which owns UK and many Governments - agenda is Depopulation of most 'Useless Eaters' WEF leader and Charles' mentor Schwab openly says) It seemed a shame that a young woman was used by the royals like this and her life ended in such a horrific way. I would like to know how she knew there was a plot to kill her in a car crash which she wrote about before she died.
I will never stop thinking of her as the royal courtesan. And, her husband as a disgusting man who used a naive young woman to provide him with his heir and a spare, all the time screwing cowmilla.
My grandparents were 1st cousins once removed.... Sicily! Their consanguinity is hardly a close degree among royalty through the age - even the modern-day royals. Surprised you are shocked? The the KIng gave Camilla a piece of jewelry that King Edward gave his mistress, Camilla's ancestor. It was all very public. Maybe your next video should be about weather the late Queen Elizabeth really did indeed drink tea.
How harsh! This young man has put hours into this video, and you wish to be a critic. I enjoyed the video! Maybe you should try to create content and see how your work is torn apart.
I recently read that Charles and Camilla were 12th cousins and that Kate Middleton was also like 12th cousin to William as well. I don’t remember the source tho.
when I was 3 (I don't remember this, my mum told me) I saw Camilla and I didn't know who she was so I said "Mummy why is this lady talking to me?" Little did I know she is now the queen consort 10 years later!
I figured there was some distant relation since royals like to keep it in the aristocracy, but this... this is WAY to close for comfort! Maybe his immense inbreeding drew him more to a family member instead of his beautiful precious wife 😥 So sad and twisted. Diana would have been such a lovely queen.
? Are you saying that Princess Anne -sister of King. Charles had a twin? Was the twin male or female? Identical? I don't understand what significance her having a twin would make.
This was really interesting! This isnt related to the video but dont you think that its weird that some people in the royal family havent died young and just lived until age 99. What a man i dont even think he suffered from anything in his life time!!!!! Same with Queen Elizabeth dieing at age 96 without suffering from anything!! Its UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!! Do you you could answer that please? I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BY THE WAY! You are so intelligent!
Because the Homeopaths have a Royal Charter from Q Vic and were treating the Royals for decades. I don't know if the great Dr Marjorie Blackie was replaced - when she passed, working into her eighties... I do know that she would never have allowed the clotshot that seemed to have finished off the Duke of Edinburgh and possibly the late QEII.
I knew of they were related. I found out on the website Genealogy of Canada that 12 generations back that I am related to Camilla. Jean Guyon born 1592 at Tourouvre France and was married to Robin Mathurine born in 1592 in Montagne-au-Perche France. They were married June 2, 1615.
Having read about Alice Keppel many years ago and checking the dates of when she began her affair with Edward and when her second daughter Sonia was born I believed for many years that it was highly likely that Charles and Camilla are 2nd cousins once removed
*This is speculation, but it is possible.* Alice Keppel's first daughter is believed to have been the offspring of one of her lovers. *Alice's husband did not mind her affairs.* *They stayed together all of his life. Alice's affairs gave the Keppel's a higher* *standard of living than his income alone.* (I doubt if anyone during Edward vii's era would have dared to have called Alice Keppel a working woman ^_^) Alice Keppel died as a very wealthy woman. Noblemen who had affairs with women were socially obligated (not legally obligated) to give her gifts. These men were in arranged marriages that increased and protected their wealth and titles. The nobleman's wife was not accorded the same level of freedom as her husband. The parentage of the couple's children was not to be questioned by the wife's actions. It was the custom among 20th century British royals/nobles to have an affair with a married woman; with the woman's husband's consent. The husband also profited from this arrangement by his associaltion with people in royal/noble circles. The Duke of Windsor (formerly Edward viii -- son of George v.) had several affairs with married women before he met Wallis Simpson. Another son of George v., George, Duke of Kent was known to have multiple affairs (with married women and men!) the guy was a regular tomcat!
My understanding is that once a female aristocrat had produced the heir and the spare, she was free to have affairs also, but greater discretion was advised as aristocratic husbands were typically far more insecure than their wives.
Please please can you do a video on the man called horse, English Lord"John Morgan,,he was a great man, after Lord Morgan,did go back to England,a holy medicine man, named Raven. called him back to come home in a holy dream, and he came back to America to stay.and he was a kin to the beautiful mother of William and Harry.
Also Camilla is a 3rd cousin of Judith Keppel who was the first person to win £1 million on who wants to be a millionaire in the UK and was one of the Egg heads on the quiz show Egg heads on BBC 2 and Five.
Did Charles perhaps just try to find a beautiful woman to get children with rather than risking with Camila? No wonder Diana was an outsider with Charles continuing his relationship with Camila. Brings up questions around Diana’s death as well. All speculation, but really makes sense.
wasn't 1 of Camilla's keppel relations on a UK TV show many years ago, think it was in many UK newspapers then about her king's mistress ancestor. Think the show was who wants to be a millionaire, can't remember though was long time ago.
It's ludicrous to state that a couple who are 2nd cousins once removed " are cousins" and imply that they are 1st cousins. They are far more distantly relatedthan that , and far too didtantly related for it to have mattered even when they were young enough to have family. As far as I know , Camilla's chat up line to Charles was that her Great - grandmother was Charles' Great- great -grandfather's mistress , so hardly a secret to her.
“cousins” is a general term relating to relatives who could be very close (first cousins) or far more distantly related. So no, it is not ludicrous to call them cousins. (That’s what they almost certainly are). They are distant enough that they would not be violating any laws were they to have children, nor would it likely have much of a negative impact on the child (being part of that family would be more likely to mess them up😅) but the fact remains that they are cousins
@@elzbieta_k very well backed up speculation. Admittedly, not exactly a fact. But certainly far more than simply “speculation” (plus, this really doesn’t relate to my point. My point was that “cousins” was an appropriate word to use to describe the probable relationship between Charles and Camilla)
