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How Could It Possibly??! THE WORLD'S MOST POTENT V8 ENGINE
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@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
The 44 amps that the mags develop is NOT SENT TO THE PLUGS, it's the primary current generated. The ignition coil they use develops approximately 50k volts and over one amp to the plugs....On the clutch, the engagement is controlled by a "cannon", which is pneumatically controlled to allow the clutch fingers to apply in stages. There isn't enough traction to allow full clutch engagement so it's allowed to slip during the first part of the run, and is very carefully controlled to help manage the power and get the car down the track. The fuel system has more than one injector as well. There is usually 8-10 injectors in the hat on top of the blower, 1-2 in the intake port of the blower manifold, and another injector or two in the head directly above the intake valve. The actual design of these engines hasn't changed since the Chrysler Hemi was first introduced, it's only been refined to make and live under the power it develops with these combos. They are rules limited to 500 cubic inches, and also rpm limited now as well. Two spark plugs are used simply because one will not light the mixture. It's very common for them to lose a cylinder because the plugs failed. Just watch for liquid fuel coming out the exhaust....and the car will push to the direction of the side of the car that the cylinder isn't firing. The exhaust actually develops about another 7500 lbs of down force to help hold the car to the track, and the zoomies are angled to maximize that. They were putting more angle on them to help the car accelerate as well, but the NHRA limited the angles of the pipes to stop this....there is a lot more to these cars than most realize....
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
I think it's similar power. An arc welder uses low voltage and high amps. The ignition system uses high voltage and low amps. Both devices convert from one to the other with coils. It's the amps that actually melt the steal when you're welding.
@brianiswrong
@brianiswrong 5 месяцев назад
I believe the 90% nitro isn't the optimum amount, its what the NHRA mandate as the maximum allowed nitro percentage . Back in the day 98% nitro was the percentage of choice.
@brianiswrong
@brianiswrong 5 месяцев назад
As regards the " transmission " as the speed increases so do the centrifugal forces on the rear slicks, they grow in size and get narrower, this " acts' as a gear as it changes the ratio and allows a higher top speed.
@umakemerandy3669
@umakemerandy3669 5 месяцев назад
Its interesting how these guys put videos together on a subject people love, with misinformation to get many comments, which tells youtube its interesting, so youtube recommends it to more people, and more people comment about it. Pretty common theme these days. Simple to do with AI able to write scripts, even voice it.
@powerwagon3731
@powerwagon3731 5 месяцев назад
@@umakemerandy3669True, but still a pretty good video overall.
@K-Effect
@K-Effect 5 месяцев назад
Top fuel dragster’s use this particular engine “formula” is because that’s the rules, if there wasn’t any rules I guarantee you these engines would be beyond insane
@freshkryp69
@freshkryp69 4 месяца назад
No prep cars lol
@bo-dine7971
@bo-dine7971 4 месяца назад
If there were no rules, basically all drag racing would be rotary. Piston engines can't even compete with their power density unless you start using weird sh*t like extremely over-square elliptical pistons that rev to 25k+ RPM but if you're dumping that much money into development making the ultimate rotary is a better choice, still. By rotary however, I don't mean just the Wankel, the Liquid-piston thingy would probably be up there too as it doesn't have the horrible apex-seal BS, I know apex seals have been improved a lot but @ ridiculous RPM & pressure they'd still be horrible. But thanks to all rotaries being black-balled due to superiority in power density we'll probably never even see liquid-piston being utilized in racing :( Such a shame! Liquid-piston engine could probably reach turbo / centrifugal supercharger -levels of RPM!!!
@Luxo087
@Luxo087 4 месяца назад
⁠​⁠@@bo-dine7971if there were no rules in professional drag racing it would be all rocket cars. No internal combustion engine has matched the power output of a hydrogen peroxide rocket on the drag strip. Slammin’ Sammy (Sam Miller) ran over 400 mph in the 1/4 mile in the early 1980’s in a hydrogen peroxide rocket powered funny car. The speed record is unofficial however due to the regulations against rocket cars. Why didn’t his tires blow up? They weren’t directly driven. Nobody has been faster or quicker in the 1/4 mile since. (42 years) Rotary remains a minority for a reason. There is no motorsport it can dominate, it’s there as an alternative at best.
@mikebaker9574
@mikebaker9574 4 месяца назад
​@@Luxo087that was close to hilarious. Drag racers could care less about rockets/jets. They have a place, but not at a drag strip.
@millroyboy07
@millroyboy07 4 месяца назад
Rocket engines are significantly faster only because there is no drivetrain for friction or power loss. Although that’s not really a fair comparison.
@jamiebray8532
@jamiebray8532 4 месяца назад
There is nothing else like feeling these machines in person!
@steveleisner6029
@steveleisner6029 4 месяца назад
True. It's kinda like a clap of thunder that lasts for three seconds. And you can feel the concussion in your chest every time a cylinder fires too. Cool!
@timothywhieldon1971
@timothywhieldon1971 4 месяца назад
only one thing comes close, launching 8 inch mortar firework shells or being at a space shuttle launch... i have done all 3 and then some and those are the top most insane crap your pants moments, that and being almost directly under (in a boat) Niagra falls.
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 4 месяца назад
@@steveleisner6029 sounds like sex with my first wife😂
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 4 месяца назад
Absolutely 💯
@talon0863
@talon0863 4 месяца назад
Bring earplugs and get up close.
@Trump985
@Trump985 5 месяцев назад
I’ve never heard so much misinformation in 10 minutes before.
@Jay-jb2vr
@Jay-jb2vr 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, I was literally about to waste my time
@joeljenkins2876
@joeljenkins2876 4 месяца назад
I couldn't agree more: the LAST thing you want in a top fuel motor is HIGH static compression!!! RIDICULOUS!!!
@user-es5cb7bi3s
@user-es5cb7bi3s 4 месяца назад
Fact
@leeejoynerr562
@leeejoynerr562 4 месяца назад
What misinformation is the fake news putting out in this?
@cameronboan627
@cameronboan627 4 месяца назад
@@joeljenkins2876yeah they like 8-1 lot 20-1
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
This isn't from an expert. Eg. top fuel dragsters use a LOW compression ratio. That's done because the supercharger is overdriven giving high boost, so the actual compressing pressure is at it's upper limit, with maximum amount of fuel mixture packed into the cylinders.
@halfnelson6115
@halfnelson6115 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure this vid is ai generated.
@bloodwolf2427
@bloodwolf2427 5 месяцев назад
yep, another BS AI narrated if not generated video of wrong information
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 5 месяцев назад
Wow that’s clever. How is the compression rationed?
@bloodwolf2427
@bloodwolf2427 5 месяцев назад
​@@malcolmwhite6588 forced induction forces a fuel air charge into the cylinder under pressure which is then pressurized more by the engine's static compression ratio which is why they need 6:1 since the superchargers are already cramming nitro and air into the cylinder at such high pressures. And then an engine's dynamic compression ratio may be less than its static (6:1 for example in top fuel) depending on how late the intake valve closes IVC which leaving the intake valve open during the compression stroke allows some of that compression to bleed off and not pre-detonate the air fuel charge.
@malcolmwhite3567
@malcolmwhite3567 5 месяцев назад
@@bloodwolf2427 fantastic answer, and also very easy to understand. Thank you so much👍😊
@biknjak
@biknjak 4 месяца назад
I've heard that if a top fuel dragster was idling at the end of turn 4 at the Indianapolis 500 track, and an Indy car came by at 220 mph, the dragster could launch as it passed from a dead stop and beat the Indy car to the quarter mile mark. Now THAT'S some acceleration....😬🤯
@Springbonnie150
@Springbonnie150 4 месяца назад
They need to work on Indy cars a bit more then!
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 4 месяца назад
0-300 in a couple seconds
@biknjak
@biknjak 4 месяца назад
@@Springbonnie150 LOL. The 220 mph figure I threw out there is roughly their average lap speed, to the best of my knowledge (unfortunately the dragster wouldn't fare too well once he got to turn 1 - the Indy car would definitely win that battle!)😉
@sharkskinboy
@sharkskinboy 3 месяца назад
That's true. At an average speed of 220MPH a car would cover quarter of a mile in 4.1 seconds.
@jordan38r
@jordan38r Месяц назад
no it couldn't the front straight of indy is not prepped like a drag strip it would just spin the tires it would not be able to get traction.
@garystokes9979
@garystokes9979 5 месяцев назад
It seems that people who made comments know more about nitro burning Hemi engines than stated by the narrator. Comments about misinformation are correct. I'm no expert but even I noticed errors before reading the comments left by others.
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
For example these engines have a low compression ratio, 6:1. The narrator says they have a high compression ratio, which is false. The engine has an overdriven supercharger so the compression ratio has to be low. The pressure in the cylinders would be too high.
@Fleetwoodjohn
@Fleetwoodjohn 4 месяца назад
The narrator is a computer reading a script
@a34rwl
@a34rwl 4 месяца назад
The narrator is just reading it out. Not his job to get the facts right.
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 4 месяца назад
@@a34rwl It's not a person. This an increasingly common AI cash grab of nonsense to get the clicks.
@wyskass861
@wyskass861 4 месяца назад
It's an AI read and generated bunch of garbage. It's increasingly common and so far easy to identity from the first few words of spoken tone.
@mccanlessdesign
@mccanlessdesign 5 месяцев назад
Twin plugs are to maximize flame spread speed with the very rich mixtures - not simply redundancy.
@joshmonroe2562
@joshmonroe2562 5 месяцев назад
​@@cd2920Is it relevant when the damn cylinder is borderline hydro locked!?! Lol
@brianiswrong
@brianiswrong 5 месяцев назад
​@@joshmonroe2562 Yes it is, it gives the mixture as much opportunity to ignite when the piston is in the optimal position, rather than the cylinder go " out" and just pump raw fuel out the header, each cylinder is producing some 800bhp and a shit ton of down force, so anything the builders can do to encourage a spark is what they do.
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 месяца назад
What BS HP and torque claims! Haha run all the.nitromethane toilet cleaner you want I’m not buying this BS!
@repentnow1720
@repentnow1720 4 месяца назад
FYI - For one season about 15-20 years ago one team ran 3 magnetos / 3 plugs per cylinder and ran away from the other teams; the NHRA made a rule change in the off-season ending that practice.
@RichardinNC1
@RichardinNC1 4 месяца назад
@@jlo13800 HP and torque are calculated from the acceleration achieved. 3.7 seconds to 338 MPH (544 KPH!). No dyno can do a direct measurement.
@JohnSmith-de2mz
@JohnSmith-de2mz 5 месяцев назад
ALL Top Fuel and Funny car engines are based on the Chrysler Hemi
@mypronouniswtf5559
@mypronouniswtf5559 4 месяца назад
Blocks are identical to the Chrysler 426 Hemi..
@BigBlawkHEMI
@BigBlawkHEMI 4 месяца назад
@@mypronouniswtf5559 Top fuel engines use a 500 cubic inch Chrysler HEMI, Not 426.
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 4 месяца назад
Just the ones run in the NHRA...
@mikeflynn1167
@mikeflynn1167 3 месяца назад
Anyone know about Ford's hemis? 429 Boss & 427 SOHC? The latter was used in top fuel applications.
@mccanlessdesign
@mccanlessdesign 5 месяцев назад
No coils on top fuel - they run magnetos.
@TheDesmoto
@TheDesmoto 5 месяцев назад
Which have coils
@Tubes12AX7k
@Tubes12AX7k 5 месяцев назад
That's interesting. When I was watching the video, I was thinking "boy, that ignition system seems similar to a Cessna engine...2 magnetos and a pair of spark plugs per cylinder." There was even an experimental diesel cycle light aircraft engine about 15 years ago but I'm not sure what became of that.
@alexanderthegreatzabaras7492
@alexanderthegreatzabaras7492 5 месяцев назад
@@TheDesmotolol i was about to say the same thing..😂😂😂
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
There is one coil per mag, so yes there is coils. The video is calling the mags coils which is wrong
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 4 месяца назад
Exactly - Magnetos generate MUCH more spark energy that standard coils.
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
The cross-plan crank makes the engine smoother, it doesn't increase performance. It's used because a flat plan crank has inherent secondary inballance(pistons move faster on the top half of each stroke, than bottom half), as with a 4-cylinder engine. It maybe necessary at this level of power and torque. A flat plan crank, saves weight, but has more vibrations.
@richard0crewe
@richard0crewe 5 месяцев назад
Another benefit of a flat-plane crank on a v8 is that it's easier to tune the exhaust system, (no crossover pipe required.) Obviously this is not applicable if the exhaust headers don't feed into a collector, but instead point straight-up for down-force and there's a potent supercharger feeding into the engine.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
You will never see a flat plane crank in one of these engines, or engines of very high output (2000+hp) due to those imbalance issues....the harmonics alone would destroy these engines in seconds.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
No tuned exhaust on these. Exhaust is there to provide downforce to the car and allow as much burning gasses to escape as possible during the exhaust stroke...@@richard0crewe
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 5 месяцев назад
Exactly 💯 as the Yamaha motorcycle with the cross plane had less power on the track, but because of that it gained traction, and won every time 🤗
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn 4 месяца назад
I wonder why TF hasn’t made V12s yet. They don’t require counterweights or balancing shafts (and therefore can rev way higher), they produce more horsepower with the same per-cylinder displacement, and price isn’t really a factor since TF engines already cost a lot and can only do 1 run. The V8s currently in use are fully built custom motors that share nothing with any street engine, so aftermarket support really isn’t a factor for Top Fuel. A DOHC 12L V12 making 13k hp should be good for several runs, given that the current crop of 8.6L pushrod V8s can last about 5 seconds.
@thefoolsclassroom5681
@thefoolsclassroom5681 5 месяцев назад
why not talk about the super charger right on top of the engine?
@mikeflynn1167
@mikeflynn1167 3 месяца назад
It consumes 1000hp alone
@cll1639
@cll1639 2 месяца назад
Whatcha want to know about it? GMC Roots-style based, designated 14-71 (those numbers indicate the number of cylinders and cubic inches per cylinder it's designed to feed, back when they were developed for diesel applications). Spun at 50% overdrive and set back about 6 inches in order to equalize the distribution of the boosted air, it provides boost on the order of 65 psi, or about 4 1/2 atmospheres. Cost is somewhere in the $20,000 range not counting the drive unit, injector hat, etc. The power gain is stunning. NHRA runs a nitro dragster class minus the superchargers that develop 4-4500hp compared to 11,000 for the supercharged versions of what is otherwise a quite similar Hemi engine. Oh, and did I mention - engines with these giant superchargers are L..O..U..D !!
@Ndw1995
@Ndw1995 3 месяца назад
Welcome to the modern era, where anyone can make videos and claim anything to be true and nobody does anything about it. RIP Truth
@lorddragonus8748
@lorddragonus8748 5 месяцев назад
Compression ratio is only 6.0: 1
@bubbasteamchannel120
@bubbasteamchannel120 4 месяца назад
Lmfao... ONLY*
@bowlweevil4161
@bowlweevil4161 4 месяца назад
STUPID@@bubbasteamchannel120
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 4 месяца назад
Cylinder compression is probably 6:1. But, when you factor in the blower... That blower uses more power, than in any car you've ever been in, can create. steve
@RichardinNC1
@RichardinNC1 4 месяца назад
From what I've read, several points were missed. One advantage of the dual valve HEMI head is the huge airflow it allows. Another advantage of dual plugs is the rearmost plug helps ignite the fuel mixture during the high G loads that push the fuel to the back of the cylinders. One other topic completely missed is the supercharger, belt driven and needed to force the massive amount of air/fuel mixture into the cylinders. It takes 500HP just to drive the supercharger itself. The whole engine is surrounded by explosion blankets to help prevent shrapnel if one goes boom during a run. Lastly the tires on the prepped surface stick so well the torque literally rips the tire off the surface, twisting the rim as it goes down the track at 5 G's acceleration. Now put 4 of the dragsters side by side at the Charlotte 4 Wide Nationals and you have a 50,000HP fast moving earthquake watching from the stands! A most incredible experience.
@kene6838
@kene6838 5 месяцев назад
Another interesting fact is we refrigerate our fuel down to around 40 degrees
@spolo123
@spolo123 4 месяца назад
Why is that? For safety or function?
@mihalis1010
@mihalis1010 3 месяца назад
@@spolo123 Probably for multiple reasons including to reduce fuming, reduce heatsoak, and to help cool the engine. These engines have no coolant, so the fuel is used to cool the engines. I'm sure it has something to do with density of the fuel spray as well, but I don't know for sure.
@HEMIPOWER604
@HEMIPOWER604 3 месяца назад
You forgot to mention the BIG AIR PUMP on top ya know the Supercharger…???
@owenjohns6301
@owenjohns6301 4 месяца назад
I've been told by an ex nitro engine mechanic that with a 4 valve head he severely doubted that the wall between the two exhaust valves wouldn't melt from the heat.
@alleyoop1234
@alleyoop1234 4 месяца назад
Same problem the small block Chevy's had, so they spread the 2 inner ports apart
@sharkskinboy
@sharkskinboy 3 месяца назад
There was actually a quad cam 4-valve engine used in Australian Top Fuel a few decades ago but I believe the rules disallowed it once it started becoming competitive.
@mikerammelt2420
@mikerammelt2420 3 месяца назад
Sainty Engineering in Sydney made a 3-valve.
@cll1639
@cll1639 2 месяца назад
@@sharkskinboy McGee Quad Cam; it was kinda-sorta competitive. Expensive to build, run and maintain and at the time it was competing, NHRA was beginning its quest to standardize everything and basically stifle ingenuity and imagination in the PRO classes. What a shame; there was some really cool combinations back in the day.
@ChrisJones555.
@ChrisJones555. 4 месяца назад
Wow, that fuel flow is insane I love it!!
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 5 месяцев назад
Another thing not taken into consideration is R.P.M. ..... although it mite be a 7,000 R.P.M. engine, they are not even turning 750 Revolutions thru the whole process from start-up to shutdown !! Amazing !! 🤔
@bowlweevil4161
@bowlweevil4161 4 месяца назад
we topped them out at 8ooo to9ooo, but the number of revolutions from start to finish blows most people's mind
@fledermonk
@fledermonk 5 месяцев назад
Best V8 engine on the planet, Chrysler engineering.
@bigb4894
@bigb4894 5 месяцев назад
Overhead valves (instead of overhead cams) are used because the rules dictate it, not because it's better.
@conperdikooris3218
@conperdikooris3218 4 месяца назад
If you take some time to search you'll find the rules where put in place for a reason. A few explosions that took place with the ohc experiment actually hurt some people. Nit to mention the ease of service between rounds.
@RecklessDezire
@RecklessDezire 4 месяца назад
It's better
@mihalis1010
@mihalis1010 3 месяца назад
Even though it is probably better for top fuel cars, seeing as they need to be rebuilt after every run. Overhead cams would require timing chains or belts, which I'm sure cannot be made durable enough to stand up to the forces in an engine like this. I'm somewhat surprised pushrods can do it.
@cll1639
@cll1639 2 месяца назад
@@RecklessDezire Irrelevant in a Top Fuel application, where RPM is limited to around 8000. OHC wouldn't add a thing except a bunch more work and expense. TF cars can't handle the power they have now until about 500 feet out when the clutch timers lock 1:1. F1 applications where you're looking at 20,000 rpm, of course.
@JohnDoe-zo5tu
@JohnDoe-zo5tu 5 месяцев назад
It astounds me at how much fuel goes into the combustion chamber. It looked to me like it was practically poured in.
@drd1924
@drd1924 5 месяцев назад
You are correct, it practically is poured in at close to a 1:7 ratio compared to 14:1 with a gasser
@TheMrMused
@TheMrMused 5 месяцев назад
Nitromethane carries its own oxygen and doesn't need *nearly* as much air as more conventional fuels.
@gamelord1000
@gamelord1000 5 месяцев назад
That video is representing ONE cylinder. That amount of fuel would be times 8 for a wide open throttle.
@GoatPilot04
@GoatPilot04 4 месяца назад
It runs on the verge of hydrolock so yeah its a lot. Raw fuel is also used to cool the zoomies (headers).
@timothywhieldon1971
@timothywhieldon1971 4 месяца назад
@@GoatPilot04 i would say it runs past the verg of hydro lock as a LOT of unburnt fuel makes it past the valves and headers!
@zafar78600
@zafar78600 5 месяцев назад
OHV and 2 valves/cylinder.Oldie but goodie
@victorcontreras3368
@victorcontreras3368 2 месяца назад
Very interesting and well explained! Racing has surely been taken to a science.
@jacksonmarshallkramer5087
@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 4 месяца назад
That fuel delivery volume is insane.
@mrsimo7144
@mrsimo7144 4 месяца назад
Brilliant. Thanks ❤
@Diesel257
@Diesel257 5 месяцев назад
9:43 Was hoping you'd show this. Amazing.
@sergueimac7294
@sergueimac7294 4 месяца назад
thank you I am mechanic and I have learned many things from France
@JRotten
@JRotten 5 месяцев назад
And a fresh engine lasts 1000 feet. Then has to be torn down and rebuilt. Along with the clutch pack. And teams usually only have a couple of hours to do this.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
They get 45 minutes....most are done in about 30
@francisbeaudry8598
@francisbeaudry8598 3 месяца назад
nice vidéo tank et merci bien and now is 341 MPH just for 1000 feet.....
@HyBr1dRaNg3r
@HyBr1dRaNg3r 4 месяца назад
Forget the engine, that transmission is wild😂🤯
@philippbecker5392
@philippbecker5392 4 месяца назад
Great Video!
@tysonatkins2236
@tysonatkins2236 4 месяца назад
That's some next level fuel consumption!
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688
@thepsychedelicmicroscope4688 4 месяца назад
The record is now over 341.68 mph. If there weren’t gearing limits to limit top speed we would regularly see 340-350 mph. 300 mph has already been done in the 1/8 mile.
@xenuno
@xenuno 4 месяца назад
Maybe .. maybe not. From what I've read in a few articles from crew chiefs, the engine is bogged down below redline by the time the car has reached the 1000 foot mark. If they aren't at redline with current gearing at that point, then taller gearing won't bump MPH up any. A 340 mph headwind made worse by aero for downforce is some serious drag ..
@cll1639
@cll1639 2 месяца назад
@@xenuno I'm not sure about that, either. One unique characteristic of a nitro-fueled engine is they pull harder under load, hence the reason for the mandated 3.20 gearing. "Redline"....actually a timing-retard device that kicks in at 7900rpm....wouldn't come into play if the car had, say, 2.80 gearing and who knows what speed it might attain since nobody's tried. My God; I believe 340 is fast enough...beyond that, you're in a serious danger zone for lots of reasons.
@dpdeere
@dpdeere 5 месяцев назад
The only thing faster than these engines is the way our Government spends our tax dollars. The Government needs to hydro lock soon.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
You can say that again....
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 4 месяца назад
Does everything have to be political ? what end does this serve?, besides virtue signaling to other complainers. ? most people would leave political interjection for when politics or the national economy actually is the topic, because it's not relaxing, nor something to be approached lightly. which is quite different from checking out engines for fun..
@bmx135536
@bmx135536 4 месяца назад
Relax, Politics is part of life. If you wanna keep your head in the sand that's on you. Not all political conversations and jokes are bad. Soon these will be banned so speak up.
@marianneoelund2940
@marianneoelund2940 3 месяца назад
They spend non-tax dollars (borrowed) even faster.
@user-jz5vq7tb4e
@user-jz5vq7tb4e 4 месяца назад
You should go into detail on the blower (screw compressor) configuration. There is very little mention of it in the video. It’s a key component of how the engine can generate the power that it does.
@cll1639
@cll1639 2 месяца назад
Look up towards the top of this thread; I provided detailed information about the superchargers. For what it's worth, the ones used in Top Fuel aren't screw compressors; they're not allowed. Roots-type 14-71 impeller units only. Screws are allowed in the supercharged Top Alcohol Dragster classes and Pro Modified.
@iggybeauchance7406
@iggybeauchance7406 Месяц назад
How do they reverse after burnout ?? must be a gear box in there somewhere... wonder how that works...
@cll1639
@cll1639 8 дней назад
There's an reverser unit installed directly behind the clutch assembly. It either directs energy straight through to the tailshaft or if the lever-operated cable is pulled, directs the energy through a sun gear which turns the tailshaft backwards. "Neutral" is accomplished by depressing the clutch pedal, disengaging the 5-discs (or six) from the rest of the clutch assembly. That quite complex clutch is the key to a successful Top Fuel run - if not set properly and operating properly it makes no difference what's sitting in front of it.
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 5 месяцев назад
Cross plane crankshaft is mainly so no more than one piston stops at any given time, which means that all combustion timing is spread out equally. Like my Yamaha 😅
@Circlotron
@Circlotron 4 месяца назад
Flat cranks and cross plane cranks both have firing intervals of 90 deg. Flat cranks fire LRLRLRLR while cross planes fire LLRLRRLR hence the glug glug glug sound of a stock engine when idling.
@landau46t
@landau46t 4 месяца назад
How do the heads have a unique aspect of the oiling system. My clevo must be top fuel inspired then
@HowDareUbuddy
@HowDareUbuddy 3 месяца назад
good video...
@thecrasher565
@thecrasher565 5 месяцев назад
the model is so good that the mopar cover is backwards.
@MrDdefos
@MrDdefos 5 месяцев назад
These engines only use the spark plugs as ignition for a short time. Once the engine is at 100% the plugs have melted into nothing more than a glow plug. The plugs are specifically designed to do this.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
They are not "specifically designed to do this"....the plugs melt due to the heat of combustion, and for no other reason. They use nothing more than a standard spark plug.
@artmchugh5644
@artmchugh5644 5 месяцев назад
When the tuneup is good, the plugs that come out look surprisingly good!!! I worked on a nitro funny car team 😊😊😊😊
@ccrider8483
@ccrider8483 5 месяцев назад
Glad I found this video. I had no idea these engines could run without functioning spark plugs or that fuel was injected at quantities approaching hydraulic lock!
@GoatPilot04
@GoatPilot04 4 месяца назад
​@ccrider8483 they run so rich and dilute the oil so bad when they have a small failure with enough oil getting into to the cylinder that they'll runaway off the oil until it dies. Bad part is its already dieseling because the plugs are shot, and typically the engines cut off by just cutting the fuel, but now the oil is the fuel lol. There's a video of a white funny car in the early 90s (maybe earlier) at the big end they had to spray with co2 or something to kill the engine before it blew apart.
@fnordist
@fnordist 5 месяцев назад
Well, you know, the quality of this clip is just plain awful, man. AI voice, aspects of burning and compressing the mix are just brushed aside, typical superficial stuff, you know?
@scottalanclymer
@scottalanclymer 4 месяца назад
Many have still not realized that it's not only narrated by AI, it's actually content the AI has scoured the net for, compiled, edited, created graphics for, scripted, and Then narrated. So it's a total gamble if ANY of it is accurate, as evidenced here. Total garbage in other words. It's computers trying to emulate human thought. Personally I'm not impressed. Turn off the power and delete the program.
@CupidStunttz
@CupidStunttz 4 месяца назад
I love my top fuel drag racing engine in my '88 Honda Civic. The fuel mileage is ruff though.
@MacDa-yy8xn
@MacDa-yy8xn 5 месяцев назад
You missed the cannon on the clutch pack..it was good though.
@Nick-nm8om
@Nick-nm8om 4 месяца назад
Fun fact they all use Mopar hemi engines. My friend and I are currently experimenting with a 345 hemi by removing a spark plug and installing a direct secondary injector and higher pressure fuel delivery system.
@codymoe4986
@codymoe4986 4 месяца назад
Pretty sure they use aftermarket blocks, with similar specs, and not actual MOPAR parts...
@Nick-nm8om
@Nick-nm8om 4 месяца назад
@codymoe4986 I should've stated that it's a hemi Chrysler design concept. Most definitely, it's not the same thing as what's coming out of the assembly lines. They actually don't even have any cool jackets in the block or the heads. They're only drilled for oiling system.
@NPC-fl3gq
@NPC-fl3gq 4 месяца назад
Back in the 80's (I think it was) there was a top fuel guy who asked an engineer at NASA "how can we run sub 5 second passes" and he was told it wasn't actually possible. Now they're running sub 4 seconds!!
@1Blackman82
@1Blackman82 3 месяца назад
The new world record for drag racing is now 341.68 mph set by bob tasca lll
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br Месяц назад
1Blackman82,,,,, While Bob did run 341.68 mph during qualifying at Bradenton in Feb. (9th) for the "Pro Superstar Shootout"..... it is & was Not a "recognized" Official Nat'l Record, because it was Not at an NHRA (or even IHRA, or WRA) Sanctioned National Event. Robert Hight (John Force Racing team & John's son in-law) still owns Both ends of the Official NHRA F/C records (3.793 et. at 339.87 mph) set back in 2017, Aug. & July respectively.
@scottsmith5623
@scottsmith5623 5 месяцев назад
Some serious coil bind there….
@obtrunco
@obtrunco 5 месяцев назад
Are the coils mentioned magnetos?
@shawnkohut795
@shawnkohut795 4 месяца назад
Magnetos still use a coil to increase voltage from the generator. Still uses a primary and secondary ignition system like a standard distributor.
@mk1st
@mk1st 5 месяцев назад
No mention of the supercharger?
@phillee9651
@phillee9651 5 месяцев назад
the fuel rate with throttle open is something else ...
@deanhil3978
@deanhil3978 5 месяцев назад
Well, TF Hydro was a spectical! Consistently quicker, though seldom,, faster. Pretty cool vid.
@werahikoclay5586
@werahikoclay5586 3 месяца назад
The trouble with car guys is they always know more than anyone haha im one of them!
@pitabread6969
@pitabread6969 4 месяца назад
Is Calypso from twisted metal giving motor spec. Info.?
@badralnimr8063
@badralnimr8063 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful work. I enjoyed this video. All was explained in a simple, yet thoughtfull manner.
@wagsman9999
@wagsman9999 4 месяца назад
Does anyone know if the two cylinder spark plugs are fired simultaneously, or are they staggered by a few milliseconds. Just curious.
@Briansantiago11
@Briansantiago11 4 месяца назад
Would be interesting to know. Staggered would make alot more sense.. or maybe even a multiple fire configuration incase the first attempt won't fire
@woohunter1
@woohunter1 4 месяца назад
Same time, need a lot of spark at the same exact second to ignite that much fuel.
@vertisjohnson219
@vertisjohnson219 2 месяца назад
There was a rumor of a 3 amp deal with 24 plugs, but NHRA put a stop to that.
@raystarky3896
@raystarky3896 4 месяца назад
Wow thank goodness! there is one 4 wheel vehicle faster than the one's they use with the I. R. S.
@leonard.shelby
@leonard.shelby 4 месяца назад
mantap bg ,yg interl lebih bnyak views nya dari pada lokal
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 5 месяцев назад
Where you at Clay
@reggiekroll3123
@reggiekroll3123 5 месяцев назад
Clay Millican could straighten this video out!
@hotrodhomefree
@hotrodhomefree 4 месяца назад
yeah, real fast!@@reggiekroll3123 SOTLP!!
@jeremysalainti1277
@jeremysalainti1277 4 месяца назад
Ora minggir tabrakk wkwkkkw indo nih 3dnya
@N3X3IVI
@N3X3IVI 4 месяца назад
how much is that engine? I wanna put it into my golf gti 😁
@bearmarsh6579
@bearmarsh6579 4 месяца назад
Weather it's from a top fuel dragster or a funny car or even a blown hydro it is a Masterpiece of speed and technology.. Gasoline is for washing parts, Alcohol is for drinking and Nitromethane is for racing. Great video.
@talon0863
@talon0863 4 месяца назад
Actually nitromethane is a really good solvent too
@bearmarsh6579
@bearmarsh6579 4 месяца назад
It's a very expensive cleaner but it still works well.
@confederatenationalist7283
@confederatenationalist7283 4 дня назад
No multiple overhead cams or variable valve timing. Might as well use all that forced induction to make it two stroke for bonus points and more fun.
@skidkidgaming
@skidkidgaming 4 месяца назад
i would of thought they would of been dry sumped
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 4 месяца назад
Congratulations, you got few things correct 😂
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
The engine also uses some outdated tech which is required by the association governing the competition, eg. single cam with pushrods, roots rather than screw blower. I'm pretty sure that is done to prevent power and speeds getting too high for the cars to handle.
@twisted2291
@twisted2291 5 месяцев назад
It is far from outdated tech. There are advacements in meterals all the time that are being employed to make the engines faster and stronger. Top Fuel cars don't race the 1/4 mile like a lot of other. They run 1000 feet instead of 1320 feet. That is because they are trying to limit the speed and have plenty of shutdown area for the cars. But the car owners and teams are still trying to squeeze every last bit of power out of this engine as they can while being safe about it.
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 месяцев назад
@@twisted2291 The engine layout is that of the Chrysler Hemi (2nd generation) that came out in 1964. That's a 60 year old design.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
The basic design is dated, yes, but these are far from low tech. The engines make approx 12,000hp, which is easily more than they can handle, so a run consists of power management. The car with the best setup wins. They shortened the track to 1000' for top fuel for safety as the cars were getting stupid fast but were eating parts like crazy. They have already eclipsed the mph records they set in the 1/4 mile now in 1000' and the crew chiefs have said the shorter tracks allow them to push the cars harder than before with less damage to parts. They are also rpm limited now to try and keep the speeds down, but the crew chiefs have figured out ways around that as well in their tuning. They used to turn more than 10,000rpm....I think they are limited to 8500 now.
@fastcargtv6
@fastcargtv6 5 месяцев назад
@@markgoulette5056 You are right! In 1997 the record holder Joe Amato's Top Fuel dragster produced about 8,000HP and was capable of 4.51s run hitting 326 mph on the full quarter mile. 0-60 was about 0.8s while 0-100 was 1s. That time they started with 4g of acceleration which start to fall behind after the 2nd second passed by and by the end of the 1/4mi dropped to about 2-2.5g. Today's cars starts at 5-5.5g and at the end of the 1000' still maintain the 3.5-4g of acceleration when the parachutes deploy and generates a 2.5g deceleration. There's a 6g force transfer! That's the reason how they topped the top speed by 10mph even though the distance has been shortened by 1/4 of it. The sanctioning body (NHRA) made the decision in 2008 to reduce the racing distance for safety reasons, and because the last 330' does not add to much to the show, nor for the spectators nor for the participants, however it was quite common that the engine ran on 4-5 cylinders only at the end of the 1/4 mile, so the teams were quite happy about it as those engine failures happened over the last 2-300'. And they keep evolving as less than a decade ago the engine power laid around 11,000 HP. Since then there's a 1,000 HP gain. In the engine design there's no freedom at all. Even the valve angles are regulated so actually everybody uses the same engine (by design) because all the principles and the measures are set in the rule book.
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 5 месяцев назад
@@charlesvan13 The block is VERY loosely based on the 426 Hemi - but it's seen a lot of updates since then.
@michaelnieman6218
@michaelnieman6218 4 месяца назад
Some else he got wrong they don't use a wet sump oil system but a dry sump meaning no oil is stored in the oil pan but a tank on board as the oil is pump through the engine it is pump back out out by several pumps back to the oil tank there are several reasons for this just Google it
@Romans--bo7br
@Romans--bo7br Месяц назад
@michaelnieman6218.... REALLY?!!??.... You better tell the T/F teams, that they've been putting oil down the wrong hole and in the wrong place, all these years!! Dry Sump systems are mandatory in F/C, only because the engine sits so low in the chassis, that there is no room for an oil pan. In T/F, Dry Sump systems are strictly a "choice".... they are Not mandatory.... and though a few teams did "experiment with them, back in the early 2000's.... None of them are running dry sumps "today". For one thing, they're (dry) a PIA to evacuate the system and refill with fresh oil, they also add unnecessary complexity, expense and weight. Part of the reason some teams experimented with them, was... because of "oil downs" on NHRA National Event tracks... but, those large "puke cans" you see mounted between & just forward of the slicks on "fuelers", with the two hoses going to it... solved that issue... for the most part. If the engine "grenades" at some point on the track.... it really won't matter What kind of oiling system you had.
@mikethecarguy9387
@mikethecarguy9387 4 месяца назад
Fuel cars are limited to the rule book, but as a person who worked in this field when i was younger - its not the engine that is the limited factor, but the safety Safari and fans preventing disaster. fuel cars havent run 1320 feet in a long time, and are limited to 1000 feet. Go spend your weekends at a pro track, and you will soon discover that physics is govering force. tires, air(wind) clutch-slip,and the drivers ability to feather the pedal. The engine itself is capable of more power, but how could it ever be used. In turn, teams and rules are adjusted, so they smoke every motor with a single pass. Take John Force for Example, because what makes him a top teir driver isnt the ability to just floor it when it turns green, but he actualy feels the edge of grip/failure and feathers/rolls the pedal as traction grows. one fact that no one has mentioned in any of these videos, is the sound level of fuel cars. google this, but dig into the results. No one has actually confirmed the ACTUAL sound level of a FUEL car. (its close) Depending on location of measurement, (mid track,60ft,100ft,etc..) its been reported WELL OVER 150dB.
@paulwaites6551
@paulwaites6551 5 месяцев назад
Can you imagine trying to get an EV match this kind of performance..
@phroogo...
@phroogo... 5 месяцев назад
Top Fuel Dragster: car go fast in straight line
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 26 дней назад
You forgot to mention the Supercharger !!
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 4 месяца назад
Oh lord. Where do we start? With the valves! Yes, that's it! A nitro engine uses two valves per cylinder, not because of any advantages over four valves but because that's all the valves that'll fit in the chamber. One big reason they use cam-in-block is this engine is going to be taken apart at least four times a day and installing cam drive on one would simply slow the mechanics down. Nitromethane isn't a monopropellant. It requires air to burn, but less air than, say, methanol does. Nitro engines have two plugs per cylinder for two reasons and neither is redundancy. Because the plugs are offset in the cylinder head, you need two so the flame front in the cylinder goes all the way across the cylinder. And because this engine burns nitromethane which is almost impossible to ignite, you need that much power in the cylinder to get it to light. What makes this engine so powerful? That 14-71 blower bolted to the top of it and feeding nitro into the engine through a length of fire hose.
@artmchugh5644
@artmchugh5644 5 месяцев назад
The clutch " floaters" are steel not titanium 😊😊😊😊😊 the flywheel and the pressure plate or hat are titanium 😊😊😊
@ft-shareinternational2146
@ft-shareinternational2146 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for yoyr correction bro 🙏🙏🙏
@abdulmateenahmed4339
@abdulmateenahmed4339 3 месяца назад
I think we have appreciated the cars enough. Let’s talk more about the mentality of the car’s drivers
@optimisticpessimist484
@optimisticpessimist484 5 месяцев назад
88 Amps at 50,000 KV? That ain't right. That would be 4.4 MW of power albeit in a very brief pulse. Still not possible without huge capacitor banks for storage. This is just one of other problems in this vid. The trouble with AI.
@markgoulette5056
@markgoulette5056 5 месяцев назад
Each mag provides 44 amps of primary current, not 44 amps to the plugs....the actual output to the plugs is about 50k volts, a little over one amp, and about 1200mj of energy. There is no direct relation of milijoules to amps...
@optimisticpessimist484
@optimisticpessimist484 5 месяцев назад
@markgoulette5056 You make total sense.
@A-T-M-
@A-T-M- 4 месяца назад
"Do you think there is something faster than a dragter?" rockets engines : :v
@crewchiefprosoftware4043
@crewchiefprosoftware4043 4 месяца назад
Not from zero to 1000 feet...
@KurtfromLaQuinta
@KurtfromLaQuinta 4 месяца назад
Not too bad for something that was originally designed back in 1905. That others and especially Chrysler refined through the years.
@terrysibley9636
@terrysibley9636 5 месяцев назад
And that ladies and gentlemen is why you shouldn't mess with Americans,I mean we build this stuff for fun, you really don't want to see what we could throw together if we were pissed. Lol, great video
@roberttammerawitchey4652
@roberttammerawitchey4652 5 месяцев назад
I'm not so sure about the 'fun' part...it's more about chasing down and acquiring sponsor's cash, and having enough parts to finish the season. Rare to see ANYONE smiling in the pits these days.
@terrysibley9636
@terrysibley9636 5 месяцев назад
@@roberttammerawitchey4652 point well taken. I was just being a little pro American that's all.
@DumbCarGuy
@DumbCarGuy 3 месяца назад
Like the Ford 427 SOHC also called a semi hemi
@HEMIPOWER604
@HEMIPOWER604 3 месяца назад
Also called a Cammer
@markkeister6057
@markkeister6057 3 месяца назад
Nothing on the blower?
@user-ff9er4dl6g
@user-ff9er4dl6g 3 месяца назад
How's the mileage? 80 gallons a mile.
@Briansantiago11
@Briansantiago11 4 месяца назад
I wonder how strong a combustion cycle is. Probably as atrong or stronger than a grenade
@ico8272
@ico8272 4 месяца назад
american ingenuity
@marktiltins8845
@marktiltins8845 5 месяцев назад
13000 HP, 338MPH, 3.1 on the Ricter Scale
@dscott130
@dscott130 4 месяца назад
They just moved the air intake scoups 3 feet in the air and, BOOM! instant 10 thousand HP increase. 😅 😂
@Louis-kk3to
@Louis-kk3to 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the brain food 😮
@THEBIGMEOW
@THEBIGMEOW 5 месяцев назад
Good video ❤ Keep up the good work
@billdonohue2389
@billdonohue2389 4 месяца назад
I thought those engines were dry sum?? I still think they are.
@SpeedyChicken2207
@SpeedyChicken2207 4 месяца назад
I wonder if I put it in a challenger
@Cable_ties
@Cable_ties 4 месяца назад
those engine usually need a full rebuild after every run as well dont they?
@Dan-ez6dr
@Dan-ez6dr 4 месяца назад
New rods, pistons, cyl heads and blower every time. If there is any bearing damage a new short block goes in.
@Cable_ties
@Cable_ties 4 месяца назад
@@Dan-ez6dr yup I thought i heard about them having to do that once
@billymanilli
@billymanilli 9 дней назад
@@Dan-ez6dr they inspect it all every time, but no... it does not get all of that stuff replaced EVERY time.
@Dan-ez6dr
@Dan-ez6dr 9 дней назад
@@billymanilli the only thing I mentioned that might not get replaced every run is the supercharger if it is still perfect. Rods, pistons and heads replaced after every run, absolutely
@billymanilli
@billymanilli 9 дней назад
@@Dan-ez6dr HEADS?... Complete cylinder heads? replaced after every run? as in get rid of the ones that were run and replace with brand new? Is that what you're saying? If so: I'll respectively say that you might want to look into that one a little better. Things don't just get thrown away and replaced for the heck of it... it all costs a LOT of money. Even the rods will go back into the motor if they still check out ok... Each time the engine is run down the track, it "squishes" the rods a bit, and they end up being a thou (or a few) shorter than they were previously. They save these for reuse. In fact, one team I saw in the pits a few years back (forget who it was) had a whole top drawer full of used rods. They had all of them organized by length, and they'd be used to "mix and match" to get the piston to deck clearance they're looking for in each hole. I only know that from talking to the guy that was literally doing it.
@TROllingNINJA2031
@TROllingNINJA2031 4 месяца назад
That blower saps about 400 hp from the crank btw
@alleyoop1234
@alleyoop1234 4 месяца назад
I have heard double that figure, but I am no pro on this for sure.
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 19 дней назад
All good, now let's see an F1 engine. There be magic a foot.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 4 месяца назад
It's now 339.87 mph from Bob Tasca III!!!
@fomoco85
@fomoco85 4 месяца назад
You do realize the 2 “high power coils” you mentioned are actually distributors?
@BlackPill-pu4vi
@BlackPill-pu4vi 4 месяца назад
Geez, I remember what a big deal it was when Don Garlits finally broke the 250 mph limit! That was almost 50 years ago.
@iket.9930
@iket.9930 Месяц назад
Big Daddy and The Greek made the first 200 mph runs in 1960.
@Manny32V
@Manny32V 5 месяцев назад
synthetic voice youtube. fucking hell.
@santinodellacroce2079
@santinodellacroce2079 4 месяца назад
Honda guys: My turbo 4 cylinder can smoke your V8 My V8 ⬆️⬆️ 😂😂😂😂😂
@jankington216
@jankington216 4 месяца назад
*flips over, blows up, still sliding towards a wall at 250mph
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