How could someone making Star Wars misunderstand it this badly? 

The Sith are self-centered... And when the people making the show are self-centered, of course they would want to portray the Sith as sympathetic. Nobody wants to see themselves as the bad guy.

1970-2005: Literally the Sith are evil incarnate. 2024: the Sith are misunderstood oppressed Emo’s

I mean... she was personal assistant to real life monster for 4 years without ever realizing something shady was going on, does it really surprise you that this woman is completely and utterly morally bankrupt? Let's not even get into the whole creepy stockholm syndrome between Osha and Qimir.

The fact that Leslye Headland is painting a Sith as misunderstood and oppressed is frigging HILARIOUS. Meta Irony.

Given Hedland’s past employment and associates, Thor’s musing that some people reject the idea of true goodness so that they can feel better about their own choices, and their own deviant behaviour, may be more accurate than not.

The thing about Osha is that she is always looking to prevent accidents in the workplace.

The messages I am hearing from modern Star Wars are: "You are good enough already the way you are." and "Good and evil don't matter.", which makes for a super boring story line. There is no hero journey and no stakes, because the Dark side has good people too.

You can't be surprised when the same company hired Rian Johnson and let him make a Star Wars movie, with a first draft screenplay. He's the poster boy for misunderstanding Star Wars, and she admittedly consulted him.

Hey Thor, I don’t recall Palpatine dropping his cloak to “seduce” Anakin with the dark side of the force. Unless that was shown on Disney After Dark….?

How could someone making Star Wars misunderstand it so badly? Simple answer is, they don't care.

The Jedi metaphorically represent Enlightenment. Saying the Jedi must end is like saying enlightenment must end.

It's a consistent theme across a lot of media, especially media that in the past has been hopeful or portrayed noble ideals. You see it in Star Wars, where the heroes of our past have been deconstructed and the Jedi are portrayed as corrupt and evil. You see it in Star Trek, where the Federation is full of manipulative schemers and Picard is mocked and dismissed. You see it in Superman, where this iconic symbol of hope, truth, and justice is some brooding loner who can't really connect with his planet instead of the loving farm boy his adoptive parents raised him as. There's this sort of vile nihilistic sentiment that all of these companies keep bringing to these iconic visions of hope, prosperity, justice, and kindness, like tearing down our beloved role models is somehow a brilliant and daring bit of artistic expression and not just the base thrill that a bored child gets from destroying something someone else loves. Despite the fact that fans plead with these companies over and over not to do it, despite the fact that they are vocal about not wanting this, these companies do it again and again. And when the fans get upset that the companies have torn apart the thing they love, the companies accuse the fans of being the evil ones.

Notice the message of the showrunner is that the jedi need oversight but the commune of space lez....THEY'RE okay and should be left alone to indulge in dark side practices. As a Supreme Chancellor once said "ironic"

To support Thor Skywalker’s claim that the Jedi have no problem with leaving the order or they don’t frown upon it. In the clone wars cartoons, Obi Wan admits if the dutches of Mandalor had asked him to stay with her, he would have left the order for her. Also the Jedi had no issues with Dokuu leaving the order, he remained autonomous for years before the clone wars. Yes early on he did convert to the dark side but the Jedi under the assumption he didn’t, were perfectly fine with him doing things until he was revealed he was a sith and helped plan the clone wars

Knights of the Old Republic 2 does a much better job of picking apart the Jedi, asking questions like how come Jedi are always falling to the Dark Side all the time, when charity actually makes things worse for people, whether the Jedi are too reliant on the Force, and even has the Jedi Masters you’ve been saving decide that your experiences make you the most dangerous threat instead of the actual Sith. And yet the person pointing all of this out (Kreia) isn’t always treated like she’s right and can be seen as suspicious and creepy. Especially once you learn her plan is to destroy the Force itself, regardless if it ends up killing everyone.

Incompetence always seeks to tear down competent work, as building anything is beyond them.

The parallels in the basic-level storytelling missteps between Acolyte and the sequel trilogy are striking.

Sith are the ones in the chairs telling what Jedi are and aren't. You can't make this up, bro! 💀

Why do those in charge keep trying to overcomplicate star wars? It truly is not that complex...

The simple answer to the question you pose is that the writers have a flawed understanding of the real world and how evil and good exist and are not subjective. If I was raised on Disney films as my "faith" or formation of how I view the world then that is probably how I would view our world. Unfortunately there is evil in the world and it doesn't care about your feelings.

The message of the prequels has become SO misunderstood. It's not that the Jedi way is bad. It's just that the prequel era Jedi had fallen from what they were supposed to be. They had lost their way. Qui-Gon was our glimpse of a true-to-the-light Jedi. That was the whole point of his character. To show the audience how the Jedi were supposed to be vs. what their current incarnation was in their order. While yes, Palpatine did espouse certain truths about the Jedi order, it was only because of their hypocrisy and fall from grace that his tricks were able to work. Just like in the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen nation to bring the light to the world. But when they strayed and went into sin ams after other gods, God punished them and allowed them to taken into captivity and on several occasions, destroyed. The Force is like God in the Star Wars sense. The Jedi were supposed to be the ones who spread light throughout the galaxy. But because they had forsaken what it meant to be a true Jedi, the Force allowed Palpatine to creep in unbeknownst, and undermine and destroy them. Now we have actual creators of official Star Wars content telling us the Sith were misunderstood. This "hate the Jedi" mentality started with Rian Johnson. That's where this train first went off the tracks. Now it's sunk into a volcano and the remains are almost finished melting.

I always felt like the attachment is forbidden thing in the prequels was the Jedi's flaw. I feel like the entire reason Luke succeeded where Anakin failed is that when Yoda told Anakin attachment was forbidden, Anakin kept his attachment a secret and lived a lie, when Yoda told Luke that attachment was forbidden, Luke's reply was "I don't care, I'm going to save my friends."

There are several so called fans who think just like that. How many times we see them saying that the Jedi were arrogant and deserved what they got, and the Empire was right in many things and bla bla bla. It's the edgy crowd who likes to subvert expectations.

Headland 100% thinks Grey Jedi can be a thing. She’s a casual tourist in SW.

20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. - Isaiah 5:20.

Far too often people seem to think the "dark side" is a "side", like picking waffles over pancakes.... it is NOT. It is an obsession, an addiction, loving waffles is great but stabbing your neighbor for taking some off the shelf at the supermarket never leads towards or is acceptable behavior.

This isn't a misunderstanding of Starwars. This is an accurate representation of the show makers IRL ideology and beliefs expressed in the form of fiction.

Trying to figure out why Headland is intrigued by the Sith isn't all that hard. Having worked and had dealings with Hollywood in the past, firsthand that place is a metaphorical snake pit. Headland worked for the KING of the snakes. She's bent. This is the result, and if KK loved this, it makes Andor all that much more of a miracle.

It's not that they misunderstand it. They are just bending everything to fit whatever they want to portray.

I don't comment a lot here but this time I have to say I believe you really hit the nail on the head about how these creators want the good guys to be evil and the bad guys to be "the poor misunderstood sort of good guys" because they (the creators) are incapable of good, or because they don't want to do the effort to be good. Or what if they know they are bad and are trying to make bad look good so they, who know themselves to be bad, can be considered good. That's a scary thought.

“Star Wars saved my life!” Sure, Leslye.

I think the problem is that some people don't see the Jedi as moral authorities. They see themselves as a superior moral authority, and the Jedi as 'problematic' pretenders to moral authority. Thus the Jedi must be torn down and reconfigured in the self-righteous person's image. People who are cognizant of their own darker selves, but with enough good in them to resist, crave ideals like the Jedi. We want to believe that a moral authority outside ourselves can exist, something we can aspire to, even though we know we will never reach it.

I just rewatched the Prison speech from Andor with Kino and it struck me how well written that scene is. You have Andy Serkis at his best, motivating people who are imprisoned to revolt. I felt more attached to him and those characters than anyone in the Acolyte. Because what these individuals and Disney Star Wars fans fail to realize is that the Jedi, Sith, the Force. It’s all dressing. The meat of any story is its characters. If they suck, why should anyone follow. It’s easy to forget with so many installments that Han, Luke and Leia were all wonderfully written characters. And yet Disney Star Wars seeks to coast off its name and brand. They don’t care about writing individuals with distinct personalities and clear cut motivations. They want validation through cardboard cutouts. It’s a shame that Andor was ignored by so many. Because really it was the series that could have been big if Disney Star Wars wasn’t so stupid. Seriously watch Andor.

The writers of the show have the weirdest logic. If being a Jedi means not being able to love, why is OSHA tempted by qimir. She left the Jedi order. She isn't bound by any of their rules or traditions. Why does qimir care at all about the Jedi? They had no idea he existed until he made mae attack them. If he wants freedom, he had it no one forced him to reveal himself. The part I really don't get is why the need to change the Jedi. If you want to love and feel emotions as you see fit. Don't be a Jedi, or don't write Jedi. The start wars universe is a big place just choose something else. It's like people who want to be a Christian but want to change all the tenants of the faith. Why?

I get so tired with these "deconstructions". The ones making them so rarely understand that you have to build something up in the process of tearing something else down. Otherwise, it's just mindless cynicism that masquerades as wisdom. It's just like TLJ: a movie that thinks it has something profound to say, but is far less intelligent than it thinks it is. Especially because criticizes plots and characters it believes are shallow without surface-level arguments and trite platitudes while replacing them with characters and actions actually are shallow because they exist solely to fit one moment of emotion without any concern for the context of the moment or implications on the setting. Yet when you point these issues out, they retreat into their shield of smugness where all these criticisms are invalid because they consider "the message" to be inherently self-validating without concern for if they even delivered what they intended coherently.

Reminds me of Vampire In Brooklyn when he changed into the preacher and had the congregation singing "Evil Is Good" 🤣 "Today, I don't want to talk about love or forgiveness. I'm going to talk about necessary evil..." 🤨🙄🤦🏿‍♂️

Haven’t you noticed every villain in current times is a “sympathy for the devil” character

It’s not them “misunderstanding” anything. It’s them being malicious.

It's easier for evil to thrive if you dont believe it exists

Headland never was a fan and took the job to try to turn the franchise on its head, kinda like what Johnson tried to do with TLJ.

Thor- this is an incredible breakdown of the philosophy of Star Wars by George Lucas vs what Disney has tried to give us. Your point about "joy comes from giving" is spot on. We have been conditioned over the last several decades that life is about comfort and consumption (see every TV add ever). I'd also add that GL has talked about pleasure vs joy, pleasure spikes but diminishes quickly while joy is long lasting. Pleasure tends to be self-centered, joy tends to be self-giving. What are you thoughts on the message Disney is trying to preach through their most recent projects? Sounds like you see they are trying to aim the audience at pleasure and consumption.

We live in a world (western world mostly) that, like it or not, glorifies evil and/or immoral things. So many of our shows and books these days are extremely adult themed, to the point of that I question the mental health of the people who write certain scenes. People claim its "good writing", but is it really?? Is reading about rape good literature? Does putting that in a show make it a good show? Or is the truth more simple? Regardless of your beliefs, there is a darkness that has gripped the western world and people have a sick fascination with watching or reading vile acts, and create shows that try to spin a good light on evil characters.

Can't convincingly write about very moral characters while personally having very little of it.

This notion has actually been building for some time. Especially surrounding the Jedi taking in children at a young age. I always thought of it as an entertaining "what if?" king of idea along the lines of Darth Jar Jar. A fun thought but shouldn't be explored with any real seriousness because it would be ridiculous. I always felt that the prequels showed that the Jedi weren't perfect but were better than what the Sith offered. Would you rather travel in a leaky boat or try to swim on your own in the open ocean?

Headman is what I call an ‘anti-fan’, when it comes to Star Wars. She claims to be a fan while having little to no good things to say about Star Wars and/or what makes up the heart of Star Wars.

It makes perfect sense in a way. It's the difference between people who are trained to understand an author or creators work from THE CREATOR's perspective, v.s. understanding that creator's work as a reflection of the power relations that makes up the author's existence, which is kind of how people with postmodern/critical theory backgrounds are taught to analyze or understand the work of others. If Headland sees herself as living in a patriarchal society, and sees Star Wars as popular because of and within the context of a patriarchal society, it makes sense that she would use her "work" to challenge, deconstruct or point out the contradictions within the Star Wars films or series in resistance to the patriarchal society that DOESN'T LET HER BE HER AUTHENTIC SELF. She's not criticizing Lucas - like all deconstructionist, the creator of the work is meaningless, the creator is just a proxy for society, the system, the structure etc - she is criticizing the society that she believed CREATED HIM AND MADE HIM A SUCCESS. “…there’s just no way that me being a queer woman is not going to be reflected in my work. I could try not to do it, but why would I? It just feels like a natural extension of what I do, I think that because storytelling, at its core, is always going to come down to either the personal or emotional through-line to your characters, your identity is important. And like I said, mine is just going to be in my work, whether I’m explicitly dealing with it or not, it’s always going to be there.” - Leslye Headland The reason why she completely misread it, is because she never tried to properly understand him and the world he was trying to CONSTRUCT. She picked and chose the parts of Lucas' story, that she was ALLOWED to pick, to make up her own story, which is what people like her always do.

Let's be honest, Headland's handling of the saga has been disgraceful, amateurish and shallow.

Weinstein's assistant misunderstanding good and evil? Color me shocked

I noticed this is actually a trend going outside of Star Wars. As in we have to have flawed heroes and misunderstood villains.

I don’t have to tell you how disconnected and out of touch Kennedyfilm's team can be. Leslie Headland is one of the worst offender.

The woman who was the right hand of arguably one of the most heinous people in Hollywood, known for, to quote Thor, “taking freedoms from others” has absolutely no right to make a show making bad guys look good. Making someone who wants freedom to hurt others look like someone we should root for. It’s appalling.

That last point is so true. Rejecting true goodness to feel better about yourself is a problem. Not regretting your transgressions is the first step to the dark side. If you feel no need to better yourself for the sake of others and refuse to feel bad because you are too weak to accept self-criticism and use it constructively, you open the door to evil and narcissicism that will consume you. The Jedi acknowledge that there is no true self as all things are bound to the force. They see no seperation between them and the world around them and thus are keenly attuned to the reality that their actions can have deep and lasting consequences. As a result, the Jedi are restrained and try to act with only careful consideration. The Sith however see the force as a resource to exploit. The Sith see themselves as Gods who alone possess the force, channeling it for selfish purposes. They are concerned with what the force can do for them whereas Jedi are concerned with serving the force.

There's literally a new Star Wars "fanbase" now. One that wants to tear down what came before it and make it into something it was never intended to be. And if you speak out against it, the pitch forks come out. It's sad what SW has become and is moving towards.

Headland is essentially talking about herself when she talks about a lack of oversight.

Corruption.

It’s sad because this show had the potential to be extremely interesting - we’ve had Gray Jedi in Legends before and more sympathetic Sith. If the writing was MUCH MUCH better, we’d have a more nuanced way of viewing BOTH the Jedi and the Sith like in Legends. This show could actually be good but Headland has essentially still made the Sith one dimensional whilst making the Jedi council seem dumb and misinformed, whilst also making Ki-Adi Mundi and the Jedi of the prequel trilogy seem POINTLESS.

Leslye Headland is just trying to make Star Wars into a new age Twilight lol.

Well said Thor. It's the aim of evil to corrupt good ALWAYS! One way it's done is when evil subtly disguises itself as good.

Qimir is just a toddler that thinks he is the center of the universe. He wants what he wants, with no concern for anyone else. Me, me, me… contrasted with the Jedi, who live a life of service to others. But Headlamp has no morals and has no respect for anyone else either. So he is simply a reflection of her beliefs.

A Villain sees themself as the hero of their story. I truly believe that Headland and her "writers" think they are very heroic.

Hey Thor, I love these conversations and videos. There seem to be more and more Star Wars content seemingly made by people that don’t get it or like it. Or make it to influence our perspective on the galaxy, to be better than anything that came before, etcetera. I'm happy when stories -- like the Jedi games --seem to not change or address bigger themes directly, or make fan debates an in universe concept. Fallen Order sticks with me, not bcoz it validated, for example, my thoughts on the Force, but bcoz it pulled me out of a grim mindset, and could just make me smile. My initial thoughts were to see how it justifies my view on the galaxy, but it was depicting a journey of healing, above all else. It's about *Cal’s* trials, decisions, dreams, connections, and growth above all else. What he feels and goes thru is likely relatable to the young people that need to see an example of how to heal -- or be redeemed -- . What makes him unique (or relatable) is what makes his journey to healing feel like we’re with him. And I could be here all day gushing about all the layers of the story and characters in the games. I enjoy that he isn't explicitly meant to validate or defy the Jedi, he is just a good guy. Your thoughts?

I suppose it is technically a story from the Sith's point of view. Misunderstanding the Jedi, trying to paint them as weak, ineffective and corrupt while the Sith are supposedly better. It could be a fun story if there was the self awareness and turns out the whole thing is told by a Sith Lord in an attempt to make the Jedi look stupid.

She sees the Jedi as the Patriarchy. She has said so.

I'd like to see a Generation Alan vs Thor debate. Would be fun. Different takes, both equally valid I think.

So Rotten Tomatoes removed the audience score now? 😂

Is he just a Jedi dressing as a Sith, going around, vigilante and wiping out all the corrupt jedi, and doing so in costume just to scare tf outta them.. ..hes not Sith, hes a Jedi taking the piss out the jedi while taking out the trash.. lmaoo

Think you’re missing the point. Everything you said about the Jedi is valid and how they should be but the fact is a lot of them are no longer like that. The order has lost its way and that’s why it falls, the ideals they should strive to uphold have become corrupted. They’ve become complacent, they believe there is no real threat against them. Some even believe they are superior to everyone else. There’s still many Jedi who keep to the ideals though, like Sol and Qui-Gon, but as a whole they are a shadow of what they once were.

Hey Thor, I find the concept of exploring the flaws of something like the Jedi Order or that of individuals like Jedi inherently fascinating from a story perspective. It doesn't make them evil or wrong, just more human and relatable. To be a Jedi would involve a lot of responsibilities and expectations that wouldn't be easy to live up to, but seeing a character struggle and succeed in following that path is admirable and makes for a good story. I also think Jedi antagonists are intriguing to consider, not as beings of evil, but as those that want to be good, or consider themselves good, but do bad things from a limitless number of well-intentioned or conceited reasons. "Lawful-Good" antagonists are often more interesting than more evil-aligned ones for the juicy dilemas of figuring out what is truly the best moral decision and what aspects of being part of the "good side" are the actual good aspects rather than those that have been rusted by stagnation, conceit, or dogma. It opens a portal of moral introspection that an evil-aligned antagonist cannot. It adds a sense of struggle for a character not just to do the right thing, but also to consider what the right thing is and to define what is good and right through the forge of turmoil and strife. I wish these sort of conflicts would be explored more, as I see it as problematic in the world today of people considering themselves good and right based on what groups they're a part of rather than their own actions and behavior. That's my ramble though, and I'd be interested in your thoughts. That all said, I don't feel the Acolyte really does any of this, or at the very least it doesn't do it at all very well, and lost me about halfway through episode 4.

People forget Star Wars, originally, is a fairytale. Its black and white on purpose

Honestly, I looked at this guy saying "I want to be free" and thought "Isn't this the same as saying we should allow ISIS, the Ku Klux Klan, and Nazi's do whatever they want because that's what their definition of free is?"

The Jedi are flawed, but flawed good is always preferable to evil(the sith).

The fact that she has such a poor understanding of both the English language and theming that she thinks Vader being "seduced" by the dark side has a sexual meaning is hilarious.

1:50 Headland looks like a roblox character. That's a very square face.

Freedom is worthless without rules , boundaries and discipline. Much like art. The beauty of art can truly be seen when it has rules or parameters. Music, painting, filmmaking, writing etc.

I think I know where Headland is coming from, at least to a point. Imagine you were raised in a religious family but you didn’t agree with everything the religion taught/says, and then one day you hit a breaking point where you are officially done with it. You stop believing in god or you come out as gay and suddenly that family or community turns against you. The priest or preacher who your family says represents good in the world says you’re evil or at least something about you is wrong. You may then point to stories of religious leaders doing evil deeds as a way to defend yourself to your family. I think Headland is trying to use the Jedi as a metaphor for flawed people who have been put on pedestals and stand in judgment of others. However, this fails on multiple levels. For starters, we know the Force is real in the Star Wars universe, there’s no faith required. Second, the only thing we know that is forbidden by the Jedi religion that isn’t common sense (ie don’t murder) is using the Dark Side, which she appears to be trying to defend to make the metaphor work. However, to make that work, you have to change the established rules of this fictional universe and invalidate much of what is already written.

Personally, as a Christian, it’s key to my understanding of the world that of course, all humans are sinful and selfish, we all have darkness. But that doesn’t mean that realizing this leads into saying, “ok now murder and oppression are good.” Leslye isn’t saying “we all fall short of goodness, we all have moments of evil,” her argument is less complex. She’s saying “there is no such thing as good and evil.” But anyone in their right mind would tell you that you can realize your flaws exist, and realize your evil, without saying “evil = good.” When qimir asked sol “what have you done with your darkness,” there was a hint of an argument there. that we’re all imperfect, that we all have darkness, is important to combatting pride, and it should be a relief to realize we are loved for who we are, that all humans have inherent value, not our failure to perform. That’s different from what qimir says though. He takes the darkness within humanity and embraces it rather than merely acknowledging it. Leslye should read plagueis if she wants to sound competent when talking about the sith.

I see a lot of people hating on the idea of deconstructing or criticizing/tearing down the Jedi. But I think the "idea" isn't bad its just absolutely horrendous execution. You can see past examples such as KOTOR, KOTOR II, and parts of SWTOR that do a lot to criticize the Jedi or portray them in a different light and its done a whole lot better. Leslye Headland has claimed that she was inspired by KOTOR II and specifically the character of Kreia and that is a bold fucking claim and so far the Acolyte is lightyears apart from anything resembling the genius of KOTOR and specifically Obsidian writing.

I can get behind showing the jedi flawed or maybe not as perfect as they would like to be, but to frame it as they are just as bad if not worse than the sith is a level of stupid I will never understand.

Star Wars has lost its moral compass.

I'd like to take this in a slightly different direction. In "Shrek 2" King Harold ventures into the fairy tale underworld to find an ogre killer to free his daughter from a spouse he doesn't approve of. He is directed to Puss in Boots whom apparently has something of a reputation in this line. When we first see Puss; it's in a dark room, we only see little details and his first words: "Who dares enter my room?" sounds like something Vader would say-- or Qimir if he was having a bad day. This all shouts: "Villain!" But after he reveals himself and Shrek gets the better of him, he switches from possible villain to sidekick rather easily. I always thought that the early bit of sinisterness in Puss made him all the more interesting . I guess if Qimir had not killed anyone, perhaps he could have changed sides easily too. What I'm trying to say is , I love the redeemed villain story. But then again, "Shrek 2" was never part of George Lucas ' vision; a fact I'll just have to live with.

Thank you, Thor! You nailed it and I appreciate your clear perspective and way of sharing the information.

I love how the public consciousness has made the Jedi into Star Wars’ version of Vulcans from Star Trek. And even the Vulcans suffer from a misconception, they also like the Jedi don’t act on their emotions. What is it with the public that they want these sci fi franchises to have emotionless characters? Go watch a show about robots.

Im surprised You are surprised

George Lucas famously said that the force has one side that is totally selfless and one side that is totally selfish. When you become a Sith, you give in to the extreme of the spectrum on the selfish side. There's nothing misunderstood there.

🎶 Without evil there can be no good so it must be good to be evil sometiiiiiimes 🎵

*Remember, if Leslye Headland existed in the Star Wars universe, she would be Jabba the Hut's personal assistant.*

Wow, Harvey's personal assistant sides with the dark side....go figure.

There is no misunderstanding. The goal is to destroy Star Wars, from within. The goal has ALWAYS been to destroy Star Wars. Twenty "accidents" don't just happen in a row, let alone a hundred.

The irony is that Lucas listened to jar jar iger and sold his baby to palpamickey even though he wrote a story warning people about doing just that

Nothing Disney makes is canonical anyway.

The worst part is the show doesn't actually criticize the jedi and their philosophy. There is no exploration of their beliefs and how that might lead to bad outcomes. It's just "Jedi evil and do bad thing!"

I agree with the point of this video . I also agree that the execution is poor . However, I remember back in 2005 many people felt that Anakin’s fall to the dark side was poorly executed. I wasn’t one of them as I had read the EU books leading up to ROTS as well as the first Clone Wars cartoon. The new Clone Wars filled in the blanks even more so. However , I still have trouble convincing older fans who don’t read the books or watch the clone wars cartoons that the fall of Anakin made sense .

Evil is what happens when a person demands freedom from responsibility. A person can pretty much do whatever they want. However, any action will have a consequence, good or bad. But to demand you can do what you will but have no consequences is the ultimate in narcissism and self-indulgence.

Harvey Weinstein's former personal assistant has a questionable moral compass... I'm shocked, shocked! 😂

Damn, lots of people drinking that dogmatic koolaid the Jedi brewed here… the Jedi are secular and flawed, it’s the whole reason the Sith were able to exploit them in the prequel trilogy, the Jedi had their heads so far up their butts they couldn’t see past the shroud of the darkside until it was far too late. Sure the Jedi may have at one point been enlightened but they fell from that grace. They became flawed and that was first revealed in the prequels. This show just extends that idea. Everyone here seems to forget that George Lucas was not an institutionalist, in fact he was against such a thing. The Sith and Jedi represented two flawed ideologies that have clashed for thousands of years. The far more enlightened individuals like Qui Gon and Asoka clashed with Jedi ideology, despite Qui Gon’s aptitude, he wouldn’t join the Jedi Council, and Asoka left the order altogether.

Sally Jessie Rapheal wants her glasses back

People unmoored from principles will always make unprincipled and shallow art. Headland has turned this into a therpay session where the sister who lived by the rules learns that she was wrong, and that the sith are the real progressives, having sexual freedom and hedonistic happiness

The Acolyte does a great job characterizing the morality of a Hollywood producer.

There's an actual IRL human being at IGN who just wrote an article yesterday seriously defending Quimir's POV, saying in so many words "yes, he should be free to do whatever he wants with the Force", right after he has killed over a dozen people, INCLUDING A CHILD, WHICH HE REFERS TO AS "IT" IN THE MOST SOCIOPATHIC WAY YOU CAN IMAGINE! It's one the most insane pieces of writing I've ever read. Are these people writing these articles posting from a parallel universe or something, because jeez, I don't want to be on the same plane of reality as people like that.

It's not a "misunderstanding," it's a deliberate attempt to break and ruin things that are loved by people that the showrunners don't like. This show is an act of vandalism, plain and simple.