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Well, considering that actually employing the scientific method to medicine was a rather more recent concept, the fact that the germ theory was still rather new and not widely accepted, and the fact that much of the medical research was new and had to be done clandestinely due to the laws against dissection and vivisection of non-criminals, it's really rather amazing that humans managed to survive the era at all.
Lucky Strike, MDs are AMA trained. Both MD & DO practice under FDA-AMA complex and now the FDA determines scope of practice (not the physician ‘s education) thanks to the laws of Obamacare unless you can chose a concerige medical doctor (then it’s that MD/DO ‘s state board of medicine/doctor ‘s education). I fought hard with the State of Missouri to increase the standard of care (before I became a physician, speciality psychiatry, I held board certification in quality control electronic technician). When Illness forced me into retirement, it took 5 doctors to replace me to care for my 300 patients. I was the poorest paid most knowledgeable Psychiatrist. It is not corporate that is the problem in the USA. It is the AMA. The AMA determines the time/pay with the CPT codes.
It would be interesting to see what medical practitioners in a hundred or two hundred years thinks about our current medical practices. "They did what?"
Hehe. Seriously. "They actually made a cast of plaster and gauze and just wrapped the poor sods in it for six to eight weeks?! Barbaric! What if they needed to wash themselves, or had an itch?" And that's not even getting into treatments for cancer and such.
Oh dont get me started. I was on chemo for weeks. "They did what?" "Oh they put fluids into their system that killed everything and just hoped it got all the cancer."
Wyatt O'Neil Yes, chemo works the way that it destroys cells that replicate fast. Like cancer cells. Your hair follicles also replicate fast, that's why your loose your hair and have problems with soft skin tissue in your mouth and digestive system because those cells also replicate very fast. It's a brute force method and usually done today on very specific parts of the body and not like in the past as a general deliberate poisoning of the body. If you have blood cancer, then they need to flood the whole body with the poison.
Why didn't they just dance around in circles while waving a dead chicken over his head and yelling oooga boooga boooga? It sounds like they tried everything else.
They didn't blow smoke up his bum, they just mentioned that could have been an option since it was another quack remedy of the time. Would have been better to have smoke blown up his bum instead of bleeding though... at least that wouldn't have added to his condition.
Welllll they didn’t live long when they did die... I’d say almost most of the babies born didn’t see adulthood. Many many mothers didn’t see their babies live long when they did live.
idk . he is probly chillin with 2pac and Bernie mac on a privet island smoking a fatty while laughing at all us dumb ass ppl dealing with first world probloms
+Tyler Lilly They didn't. 60 years later "surgeons" wouldn't even wash their hands before performing surgery! It's a bloody wonder that we are not extinct!
Yea, I think about this type of stuff all the time. Not just health care, every day life. We look back and laugh at astronomers who thought the earth was the center of the universe etc. Who knows 100 years from now.
It's incredible to realize how misguided was the "western" medicinal science not that long ago! Just 3-4 generations ago! It's eye opening to put things in a historical timeline perspective.
HAHAHAHA...true... I don't have anything against herbals remedies etc, they have their place... But when it comes to spiritualism and psychic mambo-jumbo they don't have ANY place in today's medicine
+BIll Georgoulakis Washington's time was not 3-4 generations ago. A generation is around 25-30 years, so 3-4 generations would be like 100 years ago. In that time (the early 20th century), medicine in Western countries was nothing like what was described in the video. Medicinal science was advancing quite quickly, especially in Germany. Lots of legitimate treatments were used. Of course things were not at the same level as today, but practices like bloodletting didn't really exist anymore.
hey people still do circumcisions and that's been debunked. it takes doctors time to let go of obsolete practises. i would like to go back in time and fix medicinal mistakes. hey guys check this out! penicillin! :O Alcohol swabs for injuries inhalers! you'd think even back then if they assumed he had a headcold or a sore throat they'd bring the man some honey. jesus. lemon and honey tea :3
For two reasons: self-healing and placebo effect. You try some random stuff, the patient heals (often on their own), and but the doctor (and the patient) believed it was due to his treatment. That (wrong) knowledge gets passed on.
@@MsHarpsychord Actually circumcised males have been found to never have penile cancer. Uncircumcised males getting penile cancer is still quite rare but it is not zero. Make of that what you will.
I know this is over a year old but lets not forget that Washington was born a British subject. In that sense our host is as appropriate as can be discussing him. In fact the first several presidents weren't Americans that were born with In the country, but were all born foreign residents.
Mt. Vernon is a wonderful place to visit especially on President's day weekend when there are re-enactors who also serve as knowledgeable docents to talk to. Standing outside of Washington's crypt where his marble sarcophagus is just behind an iron gate I contrast with the tombs of Lenin and Stalin, is humbling and an opportunity for quiet reflection.
Interesting, grade school kids in this country used to be (1950's) taught that they bled him till he died, I learned it about the 3rd grade. These days they rarely teach any American History at all, a great loss to the country, kids need to know this stuff, its critically important.
Most of Washington's slaves weren't actually set free after Martha's death. This was because Washington did not actually own most of the 317 slaves on his estate. Some were rented, others were inherited by Martha after her first husband's death. These inherited slaves were to be 'passed down' to her grandchildren upon her death.
Flintstoned Shit, that blows, but makes sense, I suppose. I'll never understand why treating human beings as possessions was seen as okay, let alone so commonly accepted. At least Washington tried to do some good before he died, just a shame it didn't happen.
+slipknotboy555 It started with considering animals to be almost equal to humans, so to actually keep going people had to find ways to accept doing these things and more to animals. Those ways to accept it obviously applied almost as well to humans, even if they had stopped considering animals as equals. Besides, those lucky enough to be better off usually finds some way to accept their own position, as the alternative would be to go crazy with guilt and regret.
Flintstoned Others of the gentry class also made such provisions in their will to free slaves upon their (the gentry's) death. Thomas Jefferson did IIRC. And didn't the wife's property become the husband's property upon marriage? Simon did mention that Washington did write that his gesture was indeed paltry, but in providing for the slaves' education and empowerment seems to me to be something within his estate's power. And it may be that he lavished his largesse on those few that belonged to Washington. You really can't do much for those slaves not your property. Perhaps buying slaves was out of the question financially but providing for his own was more available. You could probable hire a school marm to teach all the freed slaves at once and not have to pay out for more than it took to buy one slave. and perhaps there were those not of Washington's ownership who were able to partake as well. IMO if a teacher were willing to teach slaves, she should probably have heart enough to teach others. And maybe even Martha and she worked something out.
+ginnyjollykidd As far as wife's property becoming the husband's upon marriage, it was more complicated than that. In some cases that happened, in others it didn't. I don't know specifically what the arrangement was with George and Martha. But I remember reading about this before in a biography of GW. I wasn't trying to slam GW or anything. He certainly treated his slaves better than most people at the time. He did what he could for them, and it wasn't his fault that they weren't all emancipated after he was dead.
+slipknotboy555 same way people justify things like letting people go hungry in a country where several times more food is produced than could possibly be eaten or paying people a wage they couldn't possibly live on. You could read about social darwinism to get an idea of how these people think although people don't usually call their beliefs that anymore.
The way in which people spoke was so much more elegant. They had such an understanding of language arts compare to today. Now a days when people open their mouths to speak it just comes out sounding like ignorant word vomit.
Daniel Crowley Sr But just remember Washington wasn't exactly your average joe either. He was a general, president, and one of the richest people in the western hemisphere, so of course he would speak well.
michael bledsoe That is an understatement. The man was if nothing else, truly a force to be reckoned with. But even the common person of his time still had a better grasp and deeper understanding of the English language then the entirety of the House, Senate and administrative branches combined.
You're absolutely wrong about that. Only the rich and upper class would have known how to write, read, and speak in a fancy way. Most common people would have spoken in about the same way as now, as in using slang, mispronunciations, ect. A great deal of people wouldn't have known how to write at all. So no. They really did not have a good understanding of language arts. The way they talked was not because of some great understanding of of the language, but was simply a dialect and the way they spoke
Everyone dies, not everyone lives. The man is my inspiration. Except the slave owning part. He warned all of us not to create parties, to just be Americans. We didn't listen and now we live a life of tribalism. Republicans and democrats hate each other so much that we're willing to fight each other and that's pathetic because both parties are so similar.
"I shall also carry with me the hope That my country will view them with indulgence And that after forty-five years of my life Dedicated to its service with an upright zeal The faults of incompetent abilities Will be consigned to oblivion As I myself must soon be To the mansions of rest".... One last time 😞
The lesson to be learned here is: 1. Your now old, do not go out in to the snow storm to do things that can wait till tomorrow. 2. Your old, the sniffles often turns into worse things. You should take care. 3. Your no less of a man for taking care if yourself, regardless of your age. Your pride may suffer, but with prudence you will live.
“How did George Washington die?” “A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, betrayed and murdered George Washington.” Sorry, but I couldn’t resist 😉
So basically he died of stupidity. Sage tea is antiseptic and anti inflammatory. Taken at the onset of sore throat is quite effective. Plus thyme leaves also I'm sure they had is not a bad antiviral. " I never take anything for a cold", good on ya George!
OMG Thank goodness for the discovery of the microscope, germ theory, etc. What did the indigenous people( American Indian population) do for a cold, although it sounds like Washington may have caught a viral infection ( swelling of the epiglottis). What about herbal remedies. Surely they would know about such treatments. Too bad America's respect of this population was typified by subjugation and derision. There knowledge, and assistance may have brought forth a remedy. But as it was, with his advanced age, his immune system succumbed to this infection, which he would have fought off at a younger age. But, it's amazing that doctors thought blood letting was a standard treatment for inflammation, or just about everything. I remember my own Father who was a doctor telling me, the germ theory was the single most important step in the development of medicine. THANKS DAD...RIP.
It was said in the Middle Ages that the best way to stay alive was to avoid doctors. In current times, those who did in hospitals are monitored by doctors to determine by machines whether they have flatland -died by the heart stopping -or become brain dead by EEG. Only in the case of deaths outside the hospital is another -the County Coroner in the United States -required to examine the body. By bringing the body into the morgue, there is that last opportunity to see whether the person was still alive.
ginnyjollykidd: Well, you are almost correct; there are others who can determine death, and a number of them are certified to pronounce death. If you have ever been with a dying person who finished dying in your presence, you would know of certain things that often go with the last minutes. Then, and only then you can speak on this. Suffice to say that some people do slip away quietly. Others may well go through certain obvious experiences. It's not pleasant to see, but it will leave you with no doubt.
"It was always known by his friends, and it was soon acknowledged by the whole nation and by the English themselves, that in [George] Washington, America had found a leader who could be induced by no earthly motive to tell a falsehood, or to break an engagement, or to commit any dishonourable act." - William Edward Hartpole Lecky, in The History of England in the Eighteenth Century Vol. III, p. 468 "Integrity and firmness is all I can promise; these, shall never forsake me although I may be deserted by all men; for of the consolations which are to be derived from these under any circumstances, the world cannot deprive me." - George Washington, April 1, 1789, Letter to Henry Knox, Major General under George Washington in the U.S. Continental Army, First United States Secretary of War from 1789 to 1794 "His integrity was most pure, his justice the most inflexible I have ever known, no motives of interest or consanguinity [nepotism], of friendship or hatred, being able to bias his decision. He was, indeed, in every sense of the words, a wise, a good, and a great man. … In his expenses he was honorable, but exact; liberal in contributions to whatever promised utility." - Thomas Jefferson describing George Washington, in a letter to Dr. Walter Jones, January 2, 1814 He was incapable of fear, meeting personal dangers with the calmest unconcern. Perhaps the strongest feature in his character was prudence, never acting until every circumstance, every consideration, was maturely weighed; refraining if he saw a doubt, but, when once decided, going through with his purpose, whatever obstacles opposed. His integrity was most pure, his justice the most inflexible I have ever known, no motives of interest or consanguinity, of friendship or hatred, being able to bias his decision. He was, indeed, in every sense of the words, a wise, a good, and a great man. His temper was naturally high toned; but reflection and resolution had obtained a firm and habitual ascendancy over it. If ever, however, it broke its bonds, he was most tremendous in his wrath. In his expenses he was honorable, but exact; liberal in contributions to whatever promised utility; but frowning and unyielding on all visionary projects and all unworthy calls on his charity. His heart was not warm in its affections; but he exactly calculated every man's value, and gave him a solid esteem proportioned to it. His person, you know, was fine, his stature exactly what one would wish, his deportment easy, erect and noble; the best horseman of his age, and the most graceful figure that could be seen on horseback. - Thomas Jefferson describing George Washington, in a letter to Dr. Walter Jones.(2 January 1814)
Even though he was a slave owner, I have so much respect for his position towards death. He was a man of many things, but I feel that proves he was, in the end a good man.
Jesus Christ I'm glad I live in modern medicine. Every single one of these treatments were USELESS and most of which just made it far, far worse in reality. Someone came to me today (By which I actually have a fever and cough writing this) and said "Hey, drink this butter, vinegar and molasses mix!" I'd say - "Are you fucking nuts?" Let alone removing bodily fluids and making blisters on my body... Jesus... These treatments almost seem like they were meant to kill him rather than keep him alive.
"Neither are mainstream" The fact that you can find homeopathic medicine in ANY major pharmacy in the US, and that we haven't found the political will to clearly force it to be labelled as "not medicine' is proof to the contrary. It is in every city in the US and unchallenged in a public way.
***** Not mainstream in the sense that most people who buy homeopathic "medicine" do so because of lack of side effects, not because they buy into "the more dilute it is the stronger it is". I agree they should be labeled as the quackery they are.
Maybe, but smallpox wiped away native populations before America even existed so by that fact alone American doctors couldn't have assisted the Native populations. The French, Spanish, English, and Dutch brought the old world diseases to the new world. Interesting subject though
I often find stories of this old medicine interesting. Did ANYONE back then ever conduct any experimentation or observation in medicine? Couldn't they see that their medicine is so obviously dangerous and harmful? What on earth could be going through their minds?
Nowadays they put fluorides in our drinking water and its been proven that they are cancer causing. They inject us with vaccines that not only don't they work but they sometimes cause the very diseases they are supposed to cure. Our dentists put mercury in our mouths and mercury is a poison. I could go on and on but instead of me telling you all this I suggest you google Dr. Mercola. The reason we live longer is not better medicine but better nutrition, methinks.
Yeah, but modern medicine is wise enough to realize lead and mercury are bad for you, rather than a magical health potion for eternal life. We no longer treat open wounds by rubbing dead rats on them. Our doctors are required to sterilize their instruments and wash their hands. Are you honestly trying to say modern medicine is as bad as its 18th century equivalent?
Wow. Eighteenth century medical knowlege was nothing short of witch doctory, was it? I wonder if native americans had a treatment for that sort of thing.
Yeah but a sore throat and chest congestion, though? He couldn't have just drunk a little pine needle tea with some honey? How long did people practice the four humors theory of medicine before they figured out it was worthless? How do you not know that you *need* your blood? They've never seen anyone get shot, stabbed or otherwise impaled? I just find that level of stupidity ponderous.
+1acroyear1 While European knowledge of surgical techniques and how the bodies systems actually worked was higher than native peoples, in many cases native peoples knowledge of herbs and their affects upon the body was far higher than Europeans. For instance, some inner pine barks contain substantial amounts of the vitamin c family of nutrients and can end scurvy. Simply giving President Washington periodic doses of pine bark tea and honey with no bloodletting might have allowed him to survive. Raw garlic extract could have alleviated some inflammation. His case was definitely one where then current native herbal knowledge would have been of far more use than European medical knowledge. If he had suffered a trauma wound, it would have been the other way around.
It's really amazing any of those old treatments were believed to work for as long as they were, considering how often they turned out to do more harm than good.
The picture used when discussing Gustavus Brown is actually Gustavus Schmidt, a law professor who founded the law school at Tulane University. I would not expect civil war era photographs of anybody who was part of George Washington's medical team.
Seriously, if hundred percent were buried alive, the amount of oxygen available would relegate any "I'm trying to escape" to way less and 2%. And I doubt 100% buried were alive. Thus, that makes no sense. 6:19
+Today I Found Out. Hi Simon. Thanks for all the hard work and quality content. I believe I can speak for your legion of humble fans in wishing you Happy Holidays and good tidings to you and yours in the New Year.
is there any scientific evidence to support bloodletting as something that helped in the 1700's. it seems like all the doctors pretty much fully support its use.
"The physician decided they should risk bleeding the General once more..." Lol, how many people died with a common cold back then because the doctors wouldn't stop "bleeding" them?
