How Did MultiVersus Succeed Where Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl Failed? 

Edit: Funny how Nick All Stars ended up being the more complete game. Let's hope Multiversus return is a good one. Warner Bros invested and Nickelodeon Didn't. They did an amazing job with Nick All-Stars with what they had honestly.

I’m really glad the creators of Multiversus emphasized the teamwork mechanic in the game

My brother multiversus player rate dropped 99% as of today lmao

One big reason I see is diversity. NASB characters almost all got the same gameplan, fish with your safe aerials and immediately start ladder comboing like a mf. Multiversus' roster features a pretty large variety of play-styles, from big bodies that excel at neutral, zoners that have a strong setup game, and NASB style combo monsters Additionally, Multiversus also is carving out a completely unique niche for itself rather than trying to directly compete with the big dog of platform fighters by focusing its competitive meta on 2v2.

Very glad you mentioned issues with Multiversus as well, disappointed you didn't mention the additions and continuous support from developers Nick Brawl has gotten post launch including things like new characters, stages, features and voice acting. Way to kick em while they're down as well as doing a bit of a disservice to how they're represented.

Now I’m scared that in a few years we’ll see another video for “what went wrong with Multiversus”. This channel has almost conditioned me into it lol

Honestly, while there is a lot about the actual game that determines its success, the biggest difference between Multiversus and most smash competitors is that Multiversus actually had a marketing budget. There are plenty of great platform fighters that saw less success, because for a few weeks, it was almost impossible NOT to see one of your favorite streamers playing the game on twitch. They went hard on ads, as well as sponsoring streamers to play their game, and it clearly paid off. Sadly, it doesn't matter how good your game is if nobody knows about it.

You can boil this down to 10 seconds and just say "Nick didn't give their dev team the budget" Both are good games in their own right

Looks like Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl got the last laugh 🤣

Hey small nitpick but Matthew Lillard has been voicing Shaggy in animated stuff since 2010, and is basically THE voice of modern Shaggy

this aged like milk

didn’t multiverses have a 90% player drop?

This aged like milk

Not trying to be a dick, but maybe we should have waited to have compared the two games after Multiversus proved itself a bit more. Because uh lol the games not doing so hot. Also, don’t bring Rivals into it. Rivals is amazing and still has a strong player base. And imo Multiversus feels pretty terrible to play.

The potential of this roster is insane given this game can pull from DC, Looney Toons, Hanna-Barbera, and endless other IPs Warner Bros owns. Hell, they can even add fighters from Mortal Kombat and other old video games since WB owns most of Midway and Atari's old assests. They could add characters for years without an end in sight.

They both failed

Not gunna lie, i dont really like NASB but when the multiverses servers are down, im reminded that NASB actually let you own the software as opposed to having to sit and wait around for servers updates and maintenance

Because Nickelodeon didn’t allow them to do what they wanted to do right away and sometimes the developers can’t really speak about everything or they’re told not to talk about certain things until they give the OK we’re warner Bros gave player first games the freedom to interact with the community, etc. and smash brothers is still one of my all-time favorites, and always will be but my Jordan of platform fighters I enjoy there are some that I don’t really like but there’s a lot that I do

look where this brought you

well this aged like dog water. I hope this stupid rivalry made y'all happy cause now you're in the same boat as NASB. This is karma as far as I'm concerned

I do really like Nick All Star Brawl, but MultiVersus is on a completely different league of it’s own, plus I heard that the roster will set to be BIGGER than Smash Bros Ultimate’s roster, it seems they wanna compete against Fortnite, in terms of crazy WTF collaborations & such, which I’m actually down for that tbh

And guess what happened? They knew this game was a dumpster fire in open beta and are temporarily shutting down the game until early 2024. This video aged like milk.

I love that not even 6 months after this they uploaded “multiversus where did it go wrong?”

At the time of writing this comment, one of these games is still playable and has a sequel on the way.

Player base has fallen, but its still top2 behind Brawlhalla on Steam. It fluctuates around 10k players concurrent If it's solid and with the new content and game modes it should be able to maintain and maybe grow like Brawlhalla has done

Great video! The script and pacing of the video kept me watch the whole thing! Personally I love NASB and couldn't get into Multiversus. But I can't deny how many things they are doing right and continously improve!

Great video! All of this was very informal and reasonable. My main thing are the server issues and then it'll be fun all the time

Let's Fast forward a bit. SHIT NASB IS ALIVE WHILE MVS IS DEAD😅

I wish Rushdown Revolt got this big. The game is too good and fun to go nearly unnoticed

Nice job, I love these intro sequences in the last 20 or so videos.

One thing that I think people forget is that this is still technically early access. Things are meant to be improved. Also, I wish Rivals Of Aether should have gotten this kind of attention. It’s such a good game that is so rarely talked about.

Playing Smash in teams is very fun and was always what I did when I played it regularly when I was younger. It's the just the esport side that has taken it to 1v1 (with good reason) for competition. Smash games are party games first for me. Not sure what the mention of Smash not having teamplay available is about.

You know, i would say that it's not sporting to kick a man when he's down but when you build your game on top of a grindy battle pass you kind of deserve it.

Black Adam is from Captain Marvel, a major 1930s comic book. He didn't originate in his own title.

Well that aged like milk

Aged like milk for sure since the game didn't even manage to last more then 1 year after the video lmaoo.

What detracts from MVS for me is the polish. I find that even in earlier iterations, Smash had moves that had clear animations and sound effects that made hits feel impactful and easy to read. Thats something I feel is lacking from MVS. The foreground and bg color pallets all blend so much, and hits don't feel impactful. Even so, its my preferred game and I have both

I literally keep forgetting nick all stars was a thing

This aged like milk. Its been soo long that the devs still didn't manage to get this game to other region that desperately wants to play

It would’ve been amazing if we had a Paramount crossover in general so could also get characters from CBS, BET, Showyime, Comedy Central, & Teenick I give Warner Bros credit by not just limiting this crossover to only their animated properties but everything in their ownership across a wide spectrum. Warner Bros has the balls to have things like Rick & Morty and Game of Thrones in the same game as Scooby Doo and Looney Tunes, but you’d never see Paramount ever put South Park in the same game as SpongeBob

I wait for videos from Akshon every day all day

Alright folks, how long til multiversus gets the “where did it go wrong?” treatment?

7:30 bro, in Smash you can play in teams since Smash 64.

Succeed is a strong word

Great video, just one correction: 6:23 Matthew Lillard has actually been the voice of Shaggy ever since the Casey Kasem retired in 2009 too

Yeah about that

I haven't played either, but the hilarious thing to mention was at one or two times Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl was already on sale for PS Plus members literally a few weeks after it released. The game devs were trying to hurry and push out a few of the character packs with one most notably being XJ9, a popular robot girl in hopes to gain more attention, but it didn't last for long. Other than that I did get it on sale, but still haven't played it yet. I may try this one at least later down the line.

Multi versus is just as dead now 😂😂😂

Even with its problems like servers and lack of modes, the potential roster after what has been seen so far and just what it offers for free is quite appealing.

Glad I learned of this game just now. It's right up my alley. Iron Giant, support characters, and other random shenanigans plus it being free means I might actually enjoy it.

It’s pretty early to say that multiversus succeeded. NASB had a lot of support in the beginning too

NASB has done a decent job of making a comeback, but at least in my case, i'm just not playing a lot of video games in general rn. I've developed a Yugioh addiction in the last year.

The fact that when you talk about wifi as my phone lost connection to my own wifi feels just really hammered in the point

Despite this multi-verses will still fail if they don’t update the rest of the unwanted characters but yet worthy in this game. List : Godzilla King Kong Joker Lex luthor Lola bunny Daffy Duck Marvin the Martian The Mask Austin powers Sméagol Harry Potter

Succeed isn't the term I would use to describe Multiversus, in fact Nasb actually exceeded expectations so much so that I would call it a success. Multiversus being free to play makes it need to have a lasting player base and it isn't doing that all that well. Only time will tell if Multiversus succeeded in it's goals or not.

I would love to see PlayStation All Stars to get a remake given that multiple IP fighting games are huge these days thanks to Multiversus

Good video! Multiversus also has an "unfair" advantage over Nickelodeon all stars: The popularity of the characters. While nick's IPs have famous names, WB has more history and options: Superman, Batman, Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry,...These characters are not only relevant but were also vital to the entertainment industry, and they had decades of influence before nick or nintendo could even establish their franchises...They're not using it to the fullest potential though... Smash bros is still the more complete game but i think multiversus has more potential. Nintendo is only popular in the west and japan, and you need to buy their products to get to know their IPs. For WB on the other hand, you can just turn on the TV, in most countries, and sooner or later you'll be exposed to the characters of this game. In that sense there could be a bigger audience

I would like to point out that it's been quite some time now and there's still now Asia server. I would like to play this game so much, but the massive ping when using the VPN is just too much to handle. The game seems really fun, but I wouldn't know until I really got to play it

I want MultiVersus to be a hit so badly.

I hope you cover more old online game like Special Force 2, S4 League, Grand Chase and many more memorable gemes

Great video 🎉❤

Nick Brawl has voice acting now by the way!

Interesting and well-written video as always

Here’s my thoughts for both games: For environment, and more polished development, I’d give to Multiversus. Dialogue, Fluidity, etc. it’s clear that this game had a higher budget, and for most of the part it’s not as primitive as NASB. In character moveset, attack properties, and character classes. The team did a good job incorporating all that to the game. Though, the fact the base roster is on a free rotation schedule is a deterrent to the game. I understand it’s F2P, but at cost of grinding or even paying to play the base roster? Paying for DLC, costumes, emotes, banners, that’s all fine. But the base roster should be free. There’s a lack of modes in Multiversus: Solo, Team, FFA, then bots. You’re playing the same 3 modes, just either it’s Bots, or ranked. It makes the game quite repetitive, and a chore to play. There isn’t a. “Party game” like Grab the coins, Home Run contest, or something like Break the Targets. In addition, there are no NO ITEMS too! Most the items are things a part of a character’s moveset! NASB, has party games, and items (although they’re late). The game feels like you’re playing on Turbo mode. It’s fun being able to do unorthodox things, such as cancel your dash attack to a smash or “strong attack”, or ladder up airs. However it’s also a double edged sword. I know they’re balancing frequently, but the game is still primitive. There isn’t directional throws, every character has a universal throw; it can use to catch, toss projectiles, and throw your opponent like an item. In addition, some the character’s moveset are poorly designed. Korra, Toph, Patrick, and even Aang. Their moveset are so lackluster despite having a lot of material to work with. What motivation is there to play a game if your characters aren’t interesting to play? Title is an over exaggeration , NASB did pretty good for what they had to work with. I wouldn’t say Multiversus “succeeded” over NASB.

Smash showed that It's not about servers (NIntendo Switch Online), It's not about Skins, Taunts, or even skill of rank It's about how fun and unique a game can be to all ages.. Nick all star, (Money Grab) MultiVersus, (Inspiration and Safe IP)

It didn’t…. Both lost 90% of its player base in 3 months after release 💀

I wonder how much Discovery's acquisition of WB, and it's subsequent cost cutting, will affect this game. Especially since they seem to have targeted animated shoes initially,

AMAZING video

Not a smash guy but so happy for you guys.

I think NASB got a tough go at things just because it's hard to stay afloat in the platform fighter genre without being smash. It's already bad enough that platform fighter games are seen as smash clones, but NASB had to go against that while also lacking in budget. Gamermill and the makers of NASB is a smaller dev group. WB games is HUGE. To say a game with a smaller dev team and budget should fit the criteria of what multiversus brought to the table (free to play, voice acting, licensed music, hyperactive character releases, smooth official launch, sharp visuals and graphics) is just insanely unfair imo. They did great with that they had to work with and for what it's worth, NASB is snappy and even feels like a tighter, more responsive game than multiversus, with a more diverse move-set for characters. Platform fighters don't get enough credit because people don't want to hurt their Fandom of smash. NASB was good, albeit not being worth $40-$50 at the time (needed more content). Multiversus is even better, much better, but even it gets criticized for having dropped viewership and player count.

Thanks for the vid

Multiversus is quite fun and the characters all feel unique and useful for the most part.

This didn’t age well😅

This video did not age well

Lag never happened to me. Was always pretty good but glad to be aware.

It's all thanks to Ultra Instinct Shaggy that this game exists. ... No seriously, it is. The petition to put Shaggy into games like Dragon Ball Fighterz and Mortal Kombat 11 made Warner Brothers look at the meme and want to do something with it. Absolutely love this game.

Wow this was an interesting video!

This kind of aged poorly

6:43 Sounds like "Get Schwifty" lmao

9:21 At least we don't have that in Smash, right? *luigi flashbacks*

_MultiVersus_ definitely has potential to be one of the most successful non-Smash platform fighters tied with _Rivals of Aether._ The different mechanics, playstyle and very creative movesets show how much they're to sway from Smash Bros. and be its own thing. On top of that, it's clear the devs have a lot of love and care for the source material because it shows in every single frame of animation. On top of that the team is surprisingly small. However, the game has some clear and notable flaws that is currently holding it back, in my opinion. I can give the devs some slack because the game still is in "Open Beta", after all. - There are a LOT of projectiles; nearly every character in the roster has some sort of ranged attack. This creates a very zoning-focused gameplay and can easily cluster the screen. - The low ending lag and whiff frames on a lot of moves makes hard to punish; a lot of the most powerful attacks in MultiVersus have incredibly generous windows of frame cancel with jumps and dodges. Jake is particular has been problematic because his kit is ridiculously safe and has little to no weaknesses, which is why he has been a top tier on tournaments. - Dodge is way too generous. As aforementioned, you can dodge cancel moves to make combos, but the decay takes forever to happen. This results in many matches being boiled down to dodge spamming until someone slips. - This is a more technical issue, but hitboxes are incredibly busted in this game, even after the overhaul. You often get hit by stuff you're not supposed to, and won't hit stuff you're supposed to. There stil a lot of hitboxes that need some adjustments. - The class system, while being an interesting take in the genre and bringing some MOBA elements to it (Player1stGames is composed of former Riot Game employees, after all), I think this hinders a lot of what the game can offer. There is a lot of discussion on "Why are Mages so OP?" because of player's already existing conception of how Mages operate in MOBAs. The devs could perhaps rename these classes to other stuff to avoid this kind of issue. But honestly, despite all these technical problems (on top of servers being wonky) I'm having an absolutely blast with this game. Clocking over 100 hours on Steam.

Sucks how neither of them have any kind of decent story mode... Fighting a few arcade-style fights doesn't count. I'm talking cutscenes and multiples bosses.

i wish multi versus was available where i live

no explanation for why any of these other platform fighters "failed" brawlout catching a stray (goated game) "What makes multiversus so different?" *shows footage of different characters all fishing for single dairs in the same way as if its unique vs other plat fighters* Yea I've seen enough lol

As much as i love the video, the massive player drop isnt exactly a good indicative of "success"

11:25 - leggo void! leggo void!

I spent 100 on this game and play casually now. I played again yesterday and I’m just not feeling the Overpowernrss of swords characters, shaggy Wonder Woman. All my friends quit

This video don't age well

They had an actual budget.

This does feel a bit out of date, the player numbers have dropped quite a bit and the lack of content has become an issue

i dont want Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl to fail

Also something is Multiversus just in general feels unique. Coming from smash to Multiversus I genuinely was confused at first it felt way unique and like something I have never played before (Even Ultimate feeling way different from Multiversus) but when I played NASB I felt I have played it before (Even without play Melee) and just went back to Ultimate. Multiversus I come back to and I haven't experienced it before but with NASB it feels like I have already experienced it

I cannot wait for Multiversus to come back 🎉

I think that if people played more niche platformer fighters like Rivals, they would most likely drop off and play something else. Either that or most people are mainly in for a few matches and that's it because its main appeal is big casuals

Morty off the top combo didn’t get changed. It’s just really hard to do.

I was able to get Nick All Stars Brawl for free through Playstation Plus, and thankfully that was also when they added the patch that gave the characters voices

1 better overall roster 2 voice acting and items on jump 3 the fact that nick all stars said let’s release the same day the final smash character got announced and it turned to be sora

Really hope mods come back cause those showcases were really cool

Hype/Expectations I feel plays a slight part (with Nick All-Stars over-hyped release tempering expectations for Multiversus). 0:40 - Isn't Shrek Superslam more of a Power Stone clone? Ironically, I feel PSASBR would have been better suited to such a thing given Sony's alignment with the rise of 3D gaming. 2:53 - As the only original character so far, Reindog's mechanics are perfectly designed to show off the teamwork emphasis of Multiversus. Very clever overall! 7:07 - Nick All Stars not being free-to-play wouldn't be as much of an issue if it at least had plenty of single player content or variety of modes (in terms of a game overall; not just a competitive scene). It doesn't though, focusing on multiplayer and online much like Multiversus but at a larger entry cost. It's only advantage really is that it's available on Switch. 8:42 - I'm glad this is a balanced coverage of Multiversus that does point out some criticism to it.

I wish theybhad done the Brave and the Bold version of the DC characters, since they are the ones that crossed over with Scooby-Doo doo I'm pretty sure