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How Did Pregnancy Corsets Work? (Ft Dr Sarah Bendall) 

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@carrywon8767
@carrywon8767 Месяц назад
"Flexible", that's the word here that people tend to forget about corsets and stays, it'll adapt with you, it's not a cage.🌚
@judna1
@judna1 Месяц назад
And another thing people tend do wrong as well is that they don't put anything underneath.
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 Месяц назад
I think the word "Whalebone" confuses a lot of people.
@CaraOMara
@CaraOMara Месяц назад
You put a moon face here, and I have no idea what it means...
@ZimVader-0017
@ZimVader-0017 Месяц назад
​@judna1 Right? I saw a "fashion expert" on Twitter talking about how "dangerous" wearing a corset was, and posted a picture modeling one to show how it pinched her skin. 1) she wasn't wearing a shift underneath it, so it was right against her skin. 2) the corset was at least two sizes too small, of course it's going to be uncomfortable. An ill-fitting bra or shirt will be uncomfortable too.
@artchic528
@artchic528 Месяц назад
Corsets/stays do often get a bad rep as people often think of they are stiff, hard, and constrictive to both movement and even breathing. Like they are made to be some sort of armor plated cage for the torso. However, they are the complete opposite and allow the wearer the freedom to be more active. Especially those with spinal issues like scoliosis and lumbar pain.
@MegMarchSews61
@MegMarchSews61 Месяц назад
Making myself a pregnancy corset for reenacting was 10/10 the best and most comfortable solution I could have opted for at 30 weeks pregnant.
@flurderburger
@flurderburger Месяц назад
Did you have a specific pattern you used? I am super interested in making a pair of pregnancy stays or a pregnancy corset for my next pregnancy!
@maggierobertson2962
@maggierobertson2962 Месяц назад
I am so jealous. I would have loved that support with my pregnancy.
@skylarjohnson7779
@skylarjohnson7779 Месяц назад
Oh that's a brilliant idea.
@merrylty7632
@merrylty7632 Месяц назад
I' currently at the beginning of my pregnancy and I think I will try one!
@chloe--1374
@chloe--1374 29 дней назад
I'm interested in the pattern too 🙋
@second0banana
@second0banana Месяц назад
I really appreciate the balance here of "corsets are super fine and normal if they are well fitting" and "okay, but tight lacing was actually a thing and it did effect ribs and pelvis structures a bit." Fun fact- modern shoes effect the shape of our feet, but it's not the same as foot binding. There are degrees and different levels of discomfort people are willing to put up with for fashion and fitting in.
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d Месяц назад
Mm hm. This happens with men's shoes, as well. Just ask any guy with rotated pinky toes why that's the case.
@lennydots3935
@lennydots3935 Месяц назад
I was once in line at the grocery store behind a very elderly woman in sandals whose feet were perfectly shaped like ^, like she'd worn far too tight very pointy heels her whole life. Her toes came halfway down the side of her foot like they'd one by one been stopped as her feet gre longer until the whole front half was a very narrow triangle. I still think sometimes about what a painful childhood that must have been. But I've also only ever seen that once.
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie Месяц назад
It is just like how today we have shape wear. Some women do pack themselves into extremely tight under garments then drape a skin tight dress and the majority of us don't A high society 14-15 yr old lady tight lacing herself to look skinnier than every other girl at the ball isn't necessarily what every single woman did during that era
@DavidCruickshank
@DavidCruickshank Месяц назад
I'm glad someone else brought up how modern shoes deferm our feet.
@lesliehubertus3207
@lesliehubertus3207 Месяц назад
Modern bras put permanent indents around rib cages and on shoulders, too. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@Starstruck_.
@Starstruck_. Месяц назад
I like how bernadette is starting to look more and more like missy from dr who 😭😭
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Месяц назад
@Starstruck_. - She surely does. The influence of living in Britain?
@incobalt
@incobalt Месяц назад
I'm pretty sure there's a video on this channel where Bernadette cosplays Missy to talk about historical dress in Doctor Who.
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles Месяц назад
No she's str8 up Nellie Bly! Right out of the series of kids' books done on her by Joan Blos. My fave one was about Nellie's accidental monkey! Amazingly illustrated books by I think another woman and I feel terrible not remembering her name 🤔
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles Месяц назад
Honestly the real Nellie would prolly never permit the curl that Bernadette wisely lets fly cuz she was a full on stuck up Victorian bicho, but Bernadette all cheerful and decked the fuck out is how I always imagined Nellie when I was a little boy and I loved that book as much as Dinotopia
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles Месяц назад
Bernadette Banner is Ms. Frizzle, for reference, pretty sure we all agree on that! The gaysbros' woman of extraordinary precision and execution should be voted the only human rated to drive a magical bus! Dani, pack the piggies, cuz we're going for a fuggin ride 😂
@Chibihugs
@Chibihugs Месяц назад
Imagine that! Women (with or without child) in history had stays and corsets made to support their bodies. These pregnancy stays were lovely. I like the way the stomacher shapes changed. What a wonderful guest speaker! The outro is stunning.❤
@thesamwisegamegee
@thesamwisegamegee Месяц назад
Just want to second the amazing outro! I love it!
@frogie-berries
@frogie-berries Месяц назад
I want to third
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
I name her the Goldfish Stomacher.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Месяц назад
@@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY - .^_^.
@TheButterflyChaos
@TheButterflyChaos Месяц назад
Agree to all. Found it fascinating with the extra back-support in the stays. It's so obvious in hindsight, but brilliant. Of course someone with a large pregnancy belly needs extra help for the back
@allisonmcgarry4272
@allisonmcgarry4272 Месяц назад
I have never heard anyone mention the second hand clothes market before in a historical video. So many of them talk about the clothes the richer people were wearing. I love that Bernadette talks about how everyday people would be making adjustments to their clothes in all her videos! I'd love to learn more about the second hand clothing markets of the past too
@365kattygurl
@365kattygurl Месяц назад
Me too!
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
Erm what? This is common knowledge.
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
@@365kattygurl And me!!
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
@@YaaLFH Ok so you’re patronising to everybody.
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
@@365kattygurl And me! I’ve wondered about it a lot, but just assumed most things were worn to death, or the fabric was unpicked a reworked. But of course there would be exceptions. Man. What I’d give to rummage around an 1860s 2nd hand shop.
@italiansdoitbetter5062
@italiansdoitbetter5062 Месяц назад
My mother wore a medical pregnancy corset in 1967 given to her by her high-risk OB/GYN in Switzerland when she was pregnant with me because mom was so tiny and I was big and I still have it. My mom kept it and I have it and I wore it with my pregnancies because I have scoliosis and it actually helped me.. you don’t tighten them so tight that you can’t breathe but it did strengthen how I carried my children it really work. I know they don’t give them out anymore I’m pretty sure but I kept my mom’s just because of a sentimental value but 1967 that’s not that long ago.
@MeriLizzie
@MeriLizzie 29 дней назад
I had a hiatal hernia when I was pregnant with my youngest (early 2000’s) & the OB had me wear an under belly supporting corset. It was so comfortable I sent it along to a friend who also had a hiatal hernia & the same genetic connective tissue disorder called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, like I do. I have corsets I like to wear for cosplay or when the arthritis in my spine is bothering me.
@AlexaFaie
@AlexaFaie Месяц назад
Using the photo of the xray whilst discussing deformities hits way different after learning that those xrays were faked - the "patients" were not alive, there's evidence of stuffing in the cavities (possibly with sawdust) and several vertebrae and the pelvis are literally back to front or rotated in such a way that it would be a physical impossibility whilst alive. There is no information to be gained from them. Even the boning doesn't line up with the boning channels, its just placed wherever. The "binding" at the top extends past the edges of the corset when you'd expect it to follow the edges in a 3D manner. The list goes on. And that's before mentioning the studies on deformities actually featured primarily poor and malnourished individuals so whilst corsets likely played a part, the bones are not soft enough in healthy individuals to undergo that degree of deformity.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
This comment should be much, much higher. Thank you for the debunk.
@sparklelily145
@sparklelily145 Месяц назад
16:41 for anyone looking!
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Месяц назад
@AlexaFaie - They did mention that the rib changes occurred in those who wore stays since childhood. Yes, children were dressed a tiny adults, even to the extent of sometimes being corseted. Clothing meant expressly for children did not come about until about the 19th ---> 20th Century cusp.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 29 дней назад
w h a t
@mobstercrow7515
@mobstercrow7515 29 дней назад
Ribs are also made for moving! When we inhale and exhale, they move. Organs shift too! When someone is pregnant, their organs shift around a bit, organs were made for moving, that's why they are all pretty much floating around in there. Our bodies are flexible for a reason, hence why we have floating ribs.
@calvinpafford
@calvinpafford Месяц назад
I mean, it seems obviouse to me that pregnant women would need a supportive garment as much if not more than the average women. I think it only would seen strange if you have the pirates of the Caribbean view of corsets.
@InkanSpider
@InkanSpider Месяц назад
Even Pirates made sense in a historical sense and in universe. The whole plot takes place in the Caribbean (surprise surprise), and it took a long time for news and fashion to get that far. So when something is new in the Caribbean, it was already old news back in England and mainland Europe. None of the ladies in the first movie, including Elizabeth, knew how to use a corset because to them it was brand new but in England it was old news by now. And because it was brand new to them, they had no clue how to properly put them on or how to wear them. And that's their version on why Elizabeth fainted, because they had no idea what they were doing
@jaded_gerManic
@jaded_gerManic Месяц назад
The corset Elizabeth was given was most likely made custom for her but not fitted to her (if it was shipped). If there was a tailor/corset maker present then the person fitting it would have schooled the lady and her maid. Also, she had enough breath to last a formal ceremony but couldn't last a conversation in a sea wind. I personally consider her faint a plot convenience.
@clarisesilver1931
@clarisesilver1931 Месяц назад
Great point there, and one that I haven't considered. May I also present my own in-universe explanation for the fainting spells: the heat. It's pretty debatable in the films whether the British population in Port Royal are bothered by it (see the naval uniforms). But as someone who lives in a subtropical climate, I can say with some confidence that an incorrectly worn (probably ill-fitting, considering Elizabeth is sixteen and her measurements would have taken a long time to get to London and the corset get made and get shipped back) corset is a stupendously bad idea in these climates, especially when you're going to be standing for a long time.
@lilenwasnothere6867
@lilenwasnothere6867 Месяц назад
​@@jaded_gerManic girl wanted to be saved by a hot pirate. i respect that.
@AnniCarlsson
@AnniCarlsson Месяц назад
Woman today have belly support many times during pregnatcy but they get upset if it's called corset
@MarciaStanfield
@MarciaStanfield Месяц назад
Maria Von Trapp had a special corset made for her first concert tour because she was pregnant and was amused that she was refered to in the papers as stout, not pregnant.
@merrylty7632
@merrylty7632 Месяц назад
Well, she was very much trying to hide her pregnancy at first because she feared the tour would be cancelled if it was known, so her midwife gave her special corset made to conceal pregnancy.... and it worked!
@thehomeschoolinglibrarian
@thehomeschoolinglibrarian Месяц назад
I never thought of that though I knew her son was born in the US while they were on tour before they moved to the US permanently.
@haor2b1
@haor2b1 Месяц назад
At seven months pregnant, corsetless, i still look fat/stout if it’s early in the day… as the day wears on i look more pregnant
@wartgin
@wartgin 26 дней назад
​@@merrylty7632 I was just going to respond that she specifically worked with her dressmaker to adjust her "top" as her abdomen expanded so that it looked balanced and like she was just getting stouter not like she was pregnant. It's been more than 40 years since I read her book but, if I recall correctly, she was also concealing the pregnancy from her husband initially as well. Don't remember if it was considered something standard to not let husbands know right away or if it was related to being afraid he would cancel the tour or afraid he would let the info slip and promoters would cancel.
@SmittenKitten.
@SmittenKitten. Месяц назад
Will people in the future be dissecting pregnancy stretch pants in such a way? "These offer very little support, but they do seem to be easy to pull off when running to pee for the hundredth time. And the ice cream stains suggest they were worn 24 hours a day. Fascinating."
@arualziurodarrap8716
@arualziurodarrap8716 24 дня назад
I cracked a good laugh out of this 😂😂😂
@SmittenKitten.
@SmittenKitten. 24 дня назад
@@arualziurodarrap8716 Hahaha! :D
@cynthiabrennemann3513
@cynthiabrennemann3513 Месяц назад
Also remember that women worked HARD and often held uncomfortable positions of leaning over to work...and those corsets and supports saved their backs. I wear corsets every day and it's all due to back support! Wearing bras just pulled my shoulders over into a permanent slump. Wearing a corset holds me upright. I WISH I had a maternity corset when I had babies. It would have helped my back pain so much!
@lenax9798
@lenax9798 25 дней назад
May i ask where you get your corsets
@AlexDoty-qi5xf
@AlexDoty-qi5xf 17 дней назад
Seconding the comment above, would love to hear where you get your corsets 😊
@cynthiabrennemann3513
@cynthiabrennemann3513 16 дней назад
@@AlexDoty-qi5xf I started out (and recommend starting out) with the discount places like Corset Story or Corset Deal on line. While many of their corsets aren't terribly well made, they are a great place to start because they are inexpensive and you can figure out your fit and which styles of corsetry work for you, or don't work for you. THEN you can go splurge on other corsets, including bespoke if you have the funds for it to get exactly what you like. These days I mostly order from Lucy's corsetry...though I still hit corset deal from time to time...some of their stuff is surprisingly well made, though it's a gamble. Lucy's is a bit higher priced, but their corsets have been very good in quality and fit for me.
@LaurenHayley16
@LaurenHayley16 13 дней назад
Same, I’m a chef and I wear a corset more often than not because the support is really helpful.
@katmar7870
@katmar7870 Месяц назад
This is such a coincidence! I am 25 weeks pregnant and just wondered about this. Female history is so underrepresented. Thanks Bernadette, love to learn from you!
@talosheeg
@talosheeg Месяц назад
Congrats and hope you have a safe pregnancy!
@mobstercrow7515
@mobstercrow7515 29 дней назад
Start a savings account for your childs college as soon a possible! College is expensive, your baby will need all the help they can get.
@DharmaSimone
@DharmaSimone Месяц назад
my mother made a replica of the corset at 1:48 for a corsetry class at FIT in the late 90’s!! i almost choked on my lunch that image is seared into my brain. my mother even hand dyed all the silk to get that exact peach and we had to go on a wild hunt to find an ancient grommetting machine ran by a tiny lady sitting in a nyc window front. i think it had like 6 different types of boning in it my mom worked on that for months. i should see if she still has it. i have to send her this video!!❤
@annapruitt5546
@annapruitt5546 Месяц назад
That is so cool!! She’s clearly crazy talented!
@Saraphina_Marie
@Saraphina_Marie Месяц назад
PLEASE see if she does and update us!
@historical.isolde7918
@historical.isolde7918 Месяц назад
Anything that involves more Aussies on the internet being treated as Actual Knowledgeable Professionals that Know Things gets two thumbs up from me!
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme Месяц назад
ikr
@HunterDriguez
@HunterDriguez Месяц назад
Try being from a developing country. Never seen a Honduran talk about fashion history, much less with any actual education on it.
@historical.isolde7918
@historical.isolde7918 Месяц назад
@@HunterDriguez Fair. We might be treated as a place filled with strange accents an lots of animals that want to kill you by much of the internet, but we are still a Western developed nation, with a primarily white population. And on the internet? That counts for a lot.
@melusine826
@melusine826 Месяц назад
So unused to hearing another Aussie I took me a minute to twig why I couldn't pick the access😅
@historical.isolde7918
@historical.isolde7918 Месяц назад
@@melusine826 I know, right? And when it does happen, you need to take a moment to ask yourself it is actually an Aussie, or is it a Kiwi? But when watching Australian TV you pick the Random Kiwi straight away!
@maggierobertson2962
@maggierobertson2962 Месяц назад
The pain I felt from the rib spreading during my second pregnancy made me wish for corsetry. Lifting the bust and supporting the rib cage would have made a world of difference
@elisabethmontegna5412
@elisabethmontegna5412 Месяц назад
Omg, right? I remember getting a little freaked out about it because nobody told me my ribs might hurt and my doctor was all, “yep, it sucks, nothing we can do about it.”
@jessicaromick1035
@jessicaromick1035 22 дня назад
Yes!!!!! I have a genetic disorder called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome that, among other things, make me more prone to partial or full dislocations and I had a horrible time with ribs partially dislocating during pregnancy. The entire pregnancy was rough, but it was the rib pain that made me decide I could never do this again because it was just so bad. 😣 Even now I wish I had a corset to hold up my chest because that would be such a relief, physically.
@katherinec2759
@katherinec2759 9 дней назад
@@jessicaromick1035 It's not too late to get measured and get a corset. If you think it would help, I'd say do it!
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Месяц назад
It makes sense to me that someone might have two different stomachers depending on body shape. I would. As I told someone back in 1979, if I can think of doing it, I’m pretty sure my ancestors were smart enough to do it as well.
@TranquilityChiba
@TranquilityChiba Месяц назад
And if not your ancestors maybe their friends! Folks like to help each other
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna Месяц назад
@@TranquilityChiba and gossip! “However did you get X piece of clothing to do Y?” Oh yeah. That was a Thing.
@harmonybat
@harmonybat Месяц назад
The blink sounds during the "women are responsible for deforming their children" moment were *chef's kiss*.
@etheleiknem
@etheleiknem Месяц назад
14:45 adding this for whoever would like to rewatch it one or ten times.
@scalylayde8751
@scalylayde8751 Месяц назад
The other thing about the slight deformation that they have measured on historical skeletons, is that a lot of these people were not only wearing corsets from a very young age where their bones were still growing, but ALSO that many of them likely suffered from various kind of malnutrition. If you're not getting proper nutrition, AND you're squeezing your bones as you grow, of course it will have an effect on your body.
@sonyakinsey4376
@sonyakinsey4376 Месяц назад
Not only that that, there are numerous diseases that can affect bone growth. Children routinely wore stays, and in the 18th century even from infancy. There's too many factors to attribute deformity to just wearing stays and corsets. If you had poor posture or weak bones, from malnutrition and illness, it's likely stays or a corset would be seen as needed, like with scoliosis today.
@bridgetthewench
@bridgetthewench Месяц назад
Yes! I recall a video from Lucy's Corsetry discussing how medical conditions like rickets could make the bones deformed.
@scarletteprince3978
@scarletteprince3978 27 дней назад
I think this is such an important point, especially since scientific literacy is very low and people tend to apply "corset bad, women silly" logic and latch on to things like this without understanding what it really means. These studies place high emphasis on malnutrition, disease, and the malleability of children's bones as being the cause of the effects of corsets or at the very least making it impossible to say with certainty that corsets alone can cause these changes. In other words, when you combine weak bones with a bit of pressure, you get slight changes to the bones. So glad for people like Bernadette and Dr. Bendall who work hard to dispel myths and sensationalism and fight the misogyny that is at the root of a lot of these conversations.
@SnowieShiba
@SnowieShiba 26 дней назад
Deformation of children's bones always reminds me of how (idr what culture it was) used straight boards and wraps to deform their babies skulls so that they would grow to be seen as more beautiful. So I can see the direct correlation from corsets to malformed ribs from childhood wear. We even see malformation of children's skeletons today with shoes, starting as early as infancy, in general you want soft sole shoes with wide toe room for proper foot growth, but many people will put their child into hard flat bottom narrow toed shoes because of fashion.
@scalylayde8751
@scalylayde8751 23 дня назад
@@SnowieShiba yep! And it’s also important to note that not all deformations are harmful, which I think is an implicit assumption a lot of people make. The indigenous culture who elongate their skulls do not experience ill effects from it (or at least, it wasn’t even brought up, when I learned about them in college.) When you have seen skeletons and you can see how much variation there is from person to person, you realize that bones have more variety than you would think. Skeletons don’t have to be carbon copies of each other to support an otherwise healthy person.
@gisela_oliveira
@gisela_oliveira Месяц назад
I think we can also assume that working class women would not only wear their corsets for multiple pregnancys, but give them away for a friend or family relative, most of them wouldn't survive the time with so much use, like how people nowday give away their maternity clothes. And, maybe, some women would just make themselves some regency era stays to be more comfortable
@patriciahamel5674
@patriciahamel5674 Месяц назад
My ribs and pelvis have been deformed since birth. As a result, I ended up with an hourglass figure after puberty and my bones probably look like those seen in the 19th century bodies. So we can’t discount the possibility that some of those weren’t just from congenital deformities, and not deformities caused by corsets.
@juliabuonincontro8617
@juliabuonincontro8617 19 дней назад
Very true
@JustSaralius
@JustSaralius Месяц назад
Also, you know, hernias must have been way more of a common problem, especially pregnancy-related ones, and corsetry was definitely used (as it is now) to manage and treat abdominal hernias. You'll find ads for specific hernia belts and corsets in old magazines, so there must have been a reasonable demand for them.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
Most common causes of hernia are: muscle weakness, repetitive strain (lifting or carrying heavy items, standing for many hours, etc.), chronic constipation or cough, pregnancy (!). This used to be the life of an average woman - multiple pregnancies, housework done by hand (including laundry and gathering/preparing food), carrying a lot, working back-breaking jobs... We do a lot less of that now, so it's quite logical that the number of hernia cases would decrease.
@clarasayk525
@clarasayk525 Месяц назад
@@YaaLFH But an active person today could have better core / general muscle strength because they usually don't rely on a corset to do the work for them. So maybe the corsets both helped with and contributed to hernias.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@clarasayk525 The average person today is healthier and better fed.
@cassandrabreit5029
@cassandrabreit5029 20 дней назад
I got a hernia during my first pregnancy and I'm inclined to say the weak core caused by my scoliosis spinal fusion as a teenager was a major contributor 😢
@crazyscarlettdiamond
@crazyscarlettdiamond Месяц назад
If youtube was rated on quality your videos would be in the top tier.
@allisonyaguchi7177
@allisonyaguchi7177 Месяц назад
I think the difference in corset chest coverage in the modern age has a lot to do with corsets being worn as outerwear. Fascinating topic in this vid! Thank you for sharing :)
@sophiejones3554
@sophiejones3554 Месяц назад
Yep, people nowadays are wearing them as outer garments or as their only top garment: so they don't want to worry about nip slips. Back in the day of course, people generally only worried about that when they tightlaced.
@emilyvolkamer304
@emilyvolkamer304 Месяц назад
This reminds me of how jeans are altered for pregnancy. When I was pregnant, I hated how encumbered I felt. Constant doctors' appointments and weird symptoms (and smells! Whee!) Wearing jeans, a type of clothing I have worn for most of my life, made me feel more human. I imagine women who wore stays and corsets may have felt the same way about those items.
@Blue_Caribou
@Blue_Caribou Месяц назад
Ok, interview was fantastic, but can we talk about the *end credits* for a moment... just... ARTISTRY.
@Saraphina_Marie
@Saraphina_Marie Месяц назад
Cheeeeeeeers to Danny for this!!!!!!!! 🙌👏🙌👏🎉🎉🎉
@gigidodson
@gigidodson Месяц назад
Holding up a pregnant belly is such a relief! How ingenious these women were!
@Saraphina_Marie
@Saraphina_Marie Месяц назад
I absolutely had one of those belly belts and it was a lifesaver!!!
@asuko-san7440
@asuko-san7440 Месяц назад
14:23 Translation : "For pregnant women, it's absurd that some families consider it shameful to fulfill the first wish of nature and to carry out the function that makes us most similar to the Creator. So why strive to conceal this from the public by tightening and compressing the abdomen with the use of skirt belts and whalebone corsets? These practices strangle the intestines, obstruct and delay the passage of fecal matter, which hardens due to the reabsorption of its finest and most delicate parts. The first consequence of this is constipation, always dangerous due to the efforts required to defecate, which often exert pressure on the uterus and lead to miscarriages. Furthermore, these particles, once passed into the bloodstream, corrupt it and cause infections."
@racoonnoises5054
@racoonnoises5054 Месяц назад
Old medicine is so ridiculous sometimes you just gotta laugh lmao
@jennlucky
@jennlucky Месяц назад
So it's taking it as obvious that the reason you would wear a corset is to HIDE a pregnancy... because people see pregnancy in general as shameful? AND that this is a practice not chosen by the women themselves but by their families. Thanks for the translation
@Sienna6164
@Sienna6164 Месяц назад
Also, organs tend to get displeased during pregnancy as the baby grows. So suffice to say, these doctors were huffing paint.
@anneelisehudson8020
@anneelisehudson8020 Месяц назад
Pregnancy stays must have been super common for married women…since without birth control or abstinence a woman spent more time pregnant than not!! One thing I don’t understand is exactly how breast support on these earlier stays worked…can you explain in greater detail? They look flattening rather than supporting (and I speak as a very small busted woman).
@vadimkorostiev-rykov8986
@vadimkorostiev-rykov8986 Месяц назад
​@jennlucky you just completely excluded age of concent, contraception, ongoing marriage traditions and 90+% of the population not being wealthy enough to really afford being properly treated etc, just fyi. And most if not all doctors would get theor medical practice "on the field" quite literally.
@greatestboop6758
@greatestboop6758 Месяц назад
I want to add that in regards to breastfeeding, for high society most woman used wet-nurses and didn't breastfeed their children themselves if they could afford it. It was seen as "unfashionable" and "peasant work" to feed your own children. I can't remember exactly and I couldn't find it but there was a queen (I think queen Victoria) who breastfed her children so ladies started doing it too since the queen was.
@OdinsSage
@OdinsSage Месяц назад
Yeah, breast feeding went in and out of fashion, particularly with upperclass people. My great grandmother was a wetnurse for just that reason, it was unfashionable to breastfeed your own children in that era.
@ZeldaPine
@ZeldaPine Месяц назад
I doubt it was Queen Victoria, she thought breastfeeding was disgusting She also hated pregnancy, and though newborns were ugly, which is still wild to me since she had so many kids, and you do gotta start at the same place every time
@J_Gamble
@J_Gamble Месяц назад
Queen Elizabeth II was breastfed and breastfed her babies.
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 Месяц назад
Definitely not Queen Victoria. The late Elizabeth II did breastfeed all 4 of her children, though. I seem to remember a story about someone specific making it popular, too, though.
@ADreamingPoet
@ADreamingPoet Месяц назад
@@ZeldaPine Given how disappointed Victoria was about being recommened to stop having Sex, to avoid Pregnancy-related Health Risks, I doubt that she had all these Children for the sake of it, instead of them just being a Sideeffect of Things ;D
@soulfoodsmama2980
@soulfoodsmama2980 Месяц назад
I always find anything to do with pregnancy, birth and lactation absolutely FASCINATING. Thank you ladies for teaching us about historical maternity wear. 🖤✨
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto Месяц назад
Same!! I’m currently breastfeeding and now feeling inspired to look at historical clothing for ideas on how I can optimize my clothing for easier boob access. This video was fabulous.
@TransitioningBeauty
@TransitioningBeauty Месяц назад
This video is making me want to design my own pair of stays to fit today's clothing (rounded, individual busts & low back) explained like this it actually seems smarter to have a really good corset than it is to have 5+ bras that I have to rebuy every 2 years.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
Start with getting properly fitted and buy 2 bras that actually fit you, they will support you better and last longer. A lot of damage to bras (like underwire poking out) is caused by them not fitting well. Some brands to try: Panache, Freya, Fantasie, Curvy Kate, Bravissimo, Ewa Michalak, Gorsenia, Comexim, Kris Line, Gaia, Dalia, Ava
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto Месяц назад
Or you could get into bra-making, which once you get the hang of it, is significantly faster than making a whole corset. I’ve made a few bras for myself and they’re fabulously comfortable. Look up LizSews here on RU-vid for a good start. :)
@EmL-kg5gn
@EmL-kg5gn Месяц назад
Yes that’s what I’d love to try too!!! I don’t have anywhere near the sewing abilities to attempt it but I often think about it. I was a 32G for quite some time and even a well fitting bra (which I only had one of due to cost and difficulty even finding them) was miserable. There’s only so much weight that a band and some shoulder straps can comfortably support!
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@EmL-kg5gn A well designed bra can easily support much more than 32G breasts. I have a strapless bra that comfortably supports 32J breasts without any straps.
@EmL-kg5gn
@EmL-kg5gn Месяц назад
@@YaaLFH Well I’m glad you found one! But the rest of us are obviously struggling. I tried a lot of different ones, including from brands you’ve recommended and they were still awful for me. I suspect that factors other than just size come into play, the kind of structure and materials that’s often needed in bras for bigger chests is really uncomfortable for a lot of people.
@shoshimp1309
@shoshimp1309 Месяц назад
As someone who just gave birth to her 3rd baby 4 days ago.... thank you for this!! I've been waiting for you to finally cover this topic!
@talosheeg
@talosheeg Месяц назад
congrats!!!
@yvonnevanwaegeningh-tiggel4577
@yvonnevanwaegeningh-tiggel4577 Месяц назад
Congratulations! Lots of love to you and the little one 💜
@peggedyourdad9560
@peggedyourdad9560 Месяц назад
Congratulations, I hope everything keeps going well!
@agentcallisto
@agentcallisto Месяц назад
Congratulations!! My second son is nearly three months now; babies are just sublime.
@meganrogers3571
@meganrogers3571 24 дня назад
Congratulations! My #3 just turned four months. Hope you both are doing well ♥️
@user-gs3fm2rh3j
@user-gs3fm2rh3j Месяц назад
One thing I have learned about anatomy and my own pregnancies as well is the hips/ pelvis naturally will begin to expand as the body prepares itself for birth. Babies heads needs to to be able to clear and not be caught or trapped. Occasionally some women’s bodies don’t open up enough which could kill both baby and mother, which is one of many reasons C-sections became a life saving option eventually.
@undetestable1
@undetestable1 Месяц назад
Intresting! I have always assumed that women stopped wearing a corest altogether once they reached a certain stage of their pregnancy. I have seen some VERY large pregnant bellies in my time. Its nice to know they still had options, and I image the back support as well as the one with the belly band to help support to stomach were a great relief for the women who wore them.
@sierraroseprzybyla3333
@sierraroseprzybyla3333 Месяц назад
…just a note on a small comment made: modern bras should not be supported by “hanging from your shoulders” -that will cause SO much pain! Just like corsets, fit from a modern bra should be almost all coming from the band (the part that goes around you) …which is why good fit is so important!! I hope that helps anyone who is wearing their *modern* bras… 😊
@jzahn9647
@jzahn9647 Месяц назад
What about those of us who have both the band and the straps digging in? My other alternative is to have my breasts slip under the band through normal use. Just big chested, I guess. I would try an old fashioned pair of stays, but doubt I could find a proper pair in my price range.
@lesliehubertus3207
@lesliehubertus3207 Месяц назад
I find stays far, far more comfortable than modern bras. To get the support I need with those, I have permanent indents around my ribcage and on my shoulders.
@jzahn9647
@jzahn9647 Месяц назад
@@lesliehubertus3207 yes, exactly! Where does one find stays?
@lesliehubertus3207
@lesliehubertus3207 Месяц назад
@@jzahn9647 I can't afford to buy custom stays, so I found out how to draft and make mine from patterns of Fashion 5 and RU-vid. :/
@sfowler1017
@sfowler1017 28 дней назад
​@@jzahn9647Modern bras are MUCH too stretchy! Your band could support more (I speak for myself too) if it didn't just stretch and stretch. But who makes actually supportive bras? No one. ::sigh::
@elliso.9078
@elliso.9078 Месяц назад
"Stays were a garment that one could keep with them for significant portions of one's life." "Which is such a different mindset than what we have now." I happened to be listening to this while shopping online for a modern bra. I have 6 bras that are not at all worn out but I gained 15 pounds since I've been fitted and I'm now visibly spilling out of 4 of them. I'm in a size range where buying and selling used is common, so I'll probably sell the bras I have that don't fit me and try to get at least 1 used replacement once I know my new size, but still, modern clothes aren't really designed to be adjustable and durable so as to be kept a long time.
@jennischimmels7442
@jennischimmels7442 Месяц назад
Ahhh such a fascinating deep dive into a niche topic. The blinking sound effects over Bernadette's "WTF" face absolutely took me out 😂 And the end credits are stunning! Great video and so glad to have you back!
@arthurianking9776
@arthurianking9776 Месяц назад
I truly adore the end credit of this new video.
@AtlasAdratica
@AtlasAdratica Месяц назад
It's so beautiful I was bout to post this myself XD 😆😆
@katmusswoodwind
@katmusswoodwind Месяц назад
16:13 the discourse about the corsets causing of deformity reminds me rather of the whole argument about certain things causing autism. The deformity/difference itself may also have not been caused by one thing over the lifetime of each person, rather a mixture of nature vs nurture. Deformity could also have been something to do with diet or other reasons of which we have no empirical evidence. The screaming of "blame the corsets!!" Reminds me of those troglodytes who scream "blame the vaccines/MSG/[insert random thing here] - they cause autism!!", when in fact there are numerous causes/contributory factors which *are not ethically testable in a scientifically controlled environment*... Because experiments on pregnancy/unborn children is thankfully not entertained. All we can do is have our best guess woth the caveat that we may never know if that *one thing* causes the thing we're talking about.
@darkmoonhotel
@darkmoonhotel Месяц назад
corsets cause autism? more like autism causes corsets .... am i right .... (fellow autists will know. we like to be squeezed.)
@lesacapatate2949
@lesacapatate2949 Месяц назад
Yeah totally, I mean the study only shows that women in the XIXth had more deformities than in the XVIIIth, but many different things changed during that time else than corsetery. The paper is not blaming any specific thing, I believe; maybe factory work was a more important cause of such slight deformity. That's also a question sadly not answered in the video, maybe it is in the study but does it depend on the social class and status of these women? I would guess tightlacing as done by the upper classes since childhood would probably have more chances to cause it, while if it's also the case for other classes, then maybe there was something in the shape of (late) XIXth corset that was questionable.
@annasolovyeva1013
@annasolovyeva1013 Месяц назад
Hey, as for history of medical deformities. There's a collection of deformed fetuses in formalin from early XVIII century Russia. It was done to show people it's not a result of devil's work but health problems. To prove that, mutated baby cattle was displayed as well. Most of mothers of those were commonfolk and didn't wear any sort of corsetry at all. Many deformities would be treatable today. As for more deformity in XIX century then XVIII century... i suppose that's better statistics and better access to healthcare. Many of those deformities were in fact mutations the people of the past didn't know about and totally unrelated to the corsetry.
@rtyria
@rtyria Месяц назад
Reminds me of when my little brother got sick after eating a hot dog (he was already showing signs of the flu). For years he blamed the hot dog and nobody could tell him anything different. Even the doc was like "this is the flu, not food poisoning" and my brother was still as adamant as any six year old could get. He's a lot older now but just as opinionated.
@maryeckel9682
@maryeckel9682 Месяц назад
​@@lesacapatate2949yes, class matters in both directions. Bad bones and musculoskeletal trauma from work for poor, tightlacing for rich.
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
On my journey of corset (and stays/bodies etc) mythbusting is that modern people don’t understand how flexible and soft they really were. The term ‘whalebone’ for baleen has done a plethora of damage to peoples ideas of these garments, because you hear ‘bone’, you think straight and solid and inflexible. When I tell folk that the modern alternative we use are zip ties, then they get a better idea of what they were actually like. (See also: crinolines. Steel isn’t always as stiff as a bra underwire, friend. Gimme some natural fibre undergrundies over this 38GG torture device any day.) Mind you: most of my mythbusting goes like: “who wrote your ‘source’? Oh? A man??? Ok no that’s just more good old fashioned misogyny”
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
A well designed and well fitting bra is not a torture device. The underwires should not be super stiff, they're supposed to sit in the crease surrounding your breast and move with your body.
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
@@YaaLFH I know this, I’ve been wearing one for 35 years, I just really really really dislike them. It wasn’t so bad when I was young and only a C cup, and didn’t have chronic pain disorder that turns every sensation into a pain signal, and wasn’t perimenopausal, and adverse to any synthetic fibre on the planet. But now I do, and I hate them+ and that’s when I can get one in a 38GG, that isn’t just a c-cup pattern sized-up, for less than £75. Different bodies are different.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Where do you shop that 38GG bras are more than £75? I never in my life paid that much for a bra and I usually wear around 32J. Even my luxury silk and French lace Masquerades and Rigby&Pellers were less than £50. The most expensive bra in your size is £54 in Bravissimo and £52 in Brastop. Most are under £40 with quite a selection available under £25! And those are proper bras designed for larger sizes.
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY Месяц назад
@@YaaLFH I’ve never had a good fit from any of those guys. The Rigby & Peller I bought in store when I was last fitted by them in 2011 was £70, and that was one of the cheapest ones at the time. Last time I looked at Bravissimo, they were £65+ in my size. The bands always try moving up and/or straps are too short/in the wrong position. I’m 5’11” too, with a long torso, and even though we’re only dealing with the upper 1/3, they just never seem long enough. They ride up, and/or the cups are too close together. You sound like you’ve been really lucky because I don’t know another person above a D cup have any luck with off the rack bras, but that’s not everybody’s experience. And that’s before we even get to the synthetic fibres. Hate hate hate them. All bras are my enemy. Congrats to you though. You got lucky, I’ll stick with my linen stays, when it’s not a crop-top or sports bra day. I’ve been in this game to know what works for me, my disability and my income.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@RoxanneLaWinSTABBY LOL in 2011 you could buy Freya/Fantasie/Panache in Debenhams under £30 and they had the GG+ range in stock. I don't know when you allegedly checked Bravissimo but they never sold regular bras that were £65+ in the GG+ range. Sports bras or swimsuits yes, but not regular bras. If the bands were moving up, you were wearing the wrong size. Claiming that the straps were always too short just confirms it - you were wearing too small cups and loosening straps to the full gave you the illusion of a good fit. A well fitted bra does not ride up. Yes, some models have the cups close together but there is a lot of models with wider front. I'm not lucky, I just wear bras that actually fit - just like dozens of my friends and Internet acquaintances in all sizes, their heights ranging from petite to basketball players. I'm not short either, BTW. Also, synthetic fibres are not the enemy, no matter how much you love linen.
@senecanero3874
@senecanero3874 Месяц назад
Corsets seem very similar to modern weightlifting belts in function.
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 Месяц назад
They are
@paigemarcum5586
@paigemarcum5586 Месяц назад
This concept weirdly makes me want a proper corset more lol. Once I get a few simpler sewing projects under my belt...
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
You got it backwards.
@Lutefisk445
@Lutefisk445 Месяц назад
​@@YaaLFH Backwards ad in modern weightlifting belts inspired corsets and not the other way around?
@margodphd
@margodphd Месяц назад
​@@Lutefisk445backwards as in modern weightlifting belts are similar to corsets in function and not the other way around as one precedes the other
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione Месяц назад
Can you write to John Green because he was spreading corset misinformation on his tuberculosis video
@nancyreid8729
@nancyreid8729 Месяц назад
I noticed that too.
@alicyamatheson7877
@alicyamatheson7877 Месяц назад
I thought that at first but then wondered how wide spread the making yourself look sickly really was. It's possible it's the same class of women who would tight lace in order to assist with the look
@watson483
@watson483 Месяц назад
Yeah I was like wtf you usually have decent info, shows how biased the source he was using was.
@lanasmith4795
@lanasmith4795 Месяц назад
John Green loves doing that you only noticed this time because it was a subject you are familiar with
@sheleavitt06
@sheleavitt06 Месяц назад
I did comment on that tuberculosis video asking dress historians like Bernadette and Abby Cox to please call him out for it. I know he is all about “everything is because of tuberculosis” but dude some things are not because of tuberculosis and what you think is happening is not what is really happening…just chill and listen to some ladies for a moment ok.
@emisformaker
@emisformaker Месяц назад
I wonder how much of the skeletal deformity could be related to nutrition and/or physical activity. We know now how much adequate micronutrients contribute to bone development, particularly how vitamin D facilitates the uptake and use of calcium, as well as how physical activity has positive correlation to bone density. If we're looking at middle to upper class north-eastern Europe, where people didn't expose their skin to sunlight (for the production of vitamin D), and where vigorous physical activity was discouraged in girls and women, that could contribute to how the corset was able to deform the skeleton to such a degree.
@clarasayk525
@clarasayk525 Месяц назад
And during industrialization smog in cities could get so bad that even if you went outside, you wouldn't necessarily get enough sunlight. There are videos from the middle of the 20th century even, where children from industrial centers in Europe are treated with some sort of artificial sunlight to avoid bone deformities.
@themetr0gn0me
@themetr0gn0me Месяц назад
Vitamin D was my first thought with the mention of skeletal shape! Much work also moved from the field to the factory.
@loupblanc7944
@loupblanc7944 Месяц назад
That is a big possibility. Not to mention in Europe you have winters so the sun is not as "shining" as in other parts of the world. Heck it's the reason people of European descent have white skin in the first place, to help absorb more sunlight. So I could see woman deliberately making sure not to expose their skin to the sun might have caused a few health issues.
@mintteacups8069
@mintteacups8069 Месяц назад
this video kind of touches on a historical fashion concept i hear about all the time but rarely see illustrated: the continual deconstruction and transformation of one garment throughout fashion trends or needs. i would love to see one of these historical channels take a single gown through a few decades to show how this could be accomplished despite shifting waist heights, loose or tight sleeves, etc because it sounds like such a puzzle and so difficult to accomplish effectively and have it not look like a patchwork quilt after
@esm1817
@esm1817 Месяц назад
So excited to watch this! Toward the end of a pregnancy, the old back just aches, the tummy aches, the legs ache...😂😅. I wished last pregnancy that I had a corset adaptable for pregnancy. Just for some back support, especially since I have older kids to haul around too.
@sierrakaufman1868
@sierrakaufman1868 Месяц назад
I’m so so so happy you covered this! I’ve been so curious and I’m currently pregnant with my 3rd. Re: breast flaps on Spanish stays - I’m theorizing it could be for women with over production of milk. When your breasts are super full you can’t really move them much, they are utter rocks. So if it was for breastfeeding I would personally think that more comfortable than lifting up and out (more feasible with older babies, not as much newborns)
@sierrakaufman1868
@sierrakaufman1868 Месяц назад
Also, glad to see the breastfeeding options. Women would have needed places to stick cloth to absorb spontaneous let downs
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Месяц назад
I knew that Ms Banner's videography skills would get better and better. And they have! She is as talented in that sphere as she is in historical costuming. I wonder if she will ever try her hand at producing / directing a full-fledged documentary?
@nightfall3605
@nightfall3605 Месяц назад
And let us give full props to her sibling Danny for editing! It’s nice to see them all in the credits.
@Saraphina_Marie
@Saraphina_Marie Месяц назад
@@nightfall3605 DANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ma-ri-ko
@ma-ri-ko Месяц назад
oh this is my jam. i've been researching pregnancy belly supports for a few years because things like the hara obi are a big part of maternity culture in my heritage. in midwifery school, we did a segment on pelvimetry where we discussed the utility of pelvic measurements and 'textbook' shapes in predicting complications like shoulder dystocia. even with things like mri obtained pelvic measurements, there is very little correlation between what medical professionals deem 'ideal' and the actual ease of labor. the way that ligaments loosen and stretch during childbirth means that the pelvis is not a static shape (ask anyone who has experienced pubic symphesis separation). although 'pelvic insufficiency' and related diagnoses are frequently cited as the reason for ordering a c-section, i served quite a few parents who went on to have successful vbacs despite their diagnosis. to my understanding, when there is true obstructive malformation in the pelvis, usually it's caused by extremes of childhood malnutrition. i do wonder if that plays into the skeletal changes that medical anthropologists noted in corseted individuals
@wendys528
@wendys528 Месяц назад
My skin over my underbust ribs was so exquisitely sensitive during my pregnancy I was in agony with any fabric rub. Oh, what I would have given to have a corset to give me bust control and relief from touch.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
Erm, unless you're thinking of some futuristic corsets that hover over your skin and support without touching it, they would cause the same issues.
@naolucillerandom5280
@naolucillerandom5280 Месяц назад
​@@YaaLFH if you have big breasts, stays don't touch the underbust ribs. That's why sometimes women sewed on little bags on the inside that did touch you to act as extra support. So that's a "maybe" on whether it could have worked out for this person.
@sherryp.thompson1697
@sherryp.thompson1697 Месяц назад
I have a Will from an ancestress in the late 1600s. She left her stays to her daughters. And lots of fabric (kersey) and buttons.
@victoriab8186
@victoriab8186 Месяц назад
That’s really cool! I’m sure there could be an interesting project around the evidence of passing on of stays etc over time in wills; if there are enough bits of evidence it could be a really cool source of evidence for patterns of use and value over time
@eloisezimmerman4592
@eloisezimmerman4592 Месяц назад
I imagine wearing a corset throughout pregnancy would help decrease the risk of abdominal injury. The abdominus rectus actually splits apart at the linea alba (the connective tissue between the two vertical muscles) during the later months, and you have to be careful not to use that muscle too much or you risk tearing. That means no crunches or sit ups, and you have to roll to get out of bed rather than sit straight up from lying down. A supportive garment like that would likely prevent excessive strain on the connective tissue and allow it to heal relatively quickly postpartum. Modern belly bands exist for the same reason but theyre just big bands of elastic that compress the whole torso, theyre not boned or structured. I imagine stays or corsets would be much more comfortable.
@86fifty
@86fifty Месяц назад
Yoooo, congrats on joining Nebula! May it be a long and fruitful partnership! :)
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione Месяц назад
17:52 reminder that correlation is not causation. There is no way of knowing that those skeletons were different BECAUSE of the corsets. They may have been born with those traits or have a more sensitive body to changes.
@KelseyDrummer
@KelseyDrummer Месяц назад
That's what I was thinking. Perhaps there was a correlation between diets and prevalent diseases to bone density? I don't know though I've done zero research.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
There's evidence those skeletons are fake (rearranged to fit narrative)
@nancyreid8729
@nancyreid8729 Месяц назад
This is picking nits, but flex and stretch (before spandex etc) can very easily be a function of the weave structure; jeans for example (before the current iteration of additional spandex) bent and stretched quite easily around all the curves and movements of the knees, butt, and hips solely by utilizing a twill weave; it works great for that. Simply cutting on the bias also aids with stretch and give. So while lacing and modular construction work fabulously well, clothing has had stretch for a LONG time, back to the Stone Age.
@helenamizera3807
@helenamizera3807 Месяц назад
I also wanted to mention that knits have probably existed for a while.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
Unfortunately that makes it harder to create a supportive garment. Modern bras are made using stretchy fabrics but their construction is very complicated for such a small item - multiple small pieces stitched together in the right way.
@parryyotter
@parryyotter Месяц назад
Stretch without support is useless
@nancyreid8729
@nancyreid8729 Месяц назад
@@parryyotter as I started my statement with “this is picking nits,” please understand that I was only addressing the video’s statement about stretch being a new phenomenon. It is not. In no way was I addressing the support issue, and you are absolutely correct in saying that stretch without support (in the world of corsets) is useless.
@MeemsyD
@MeemsyD Месяц назад
Yep, knit fabric has horizontal stretch and has been around for thousands of years at least. But the stretch on the bias and the stretch of knits is very minimal compared to the modern "stretch" fabrics like spandex, elastane etc. I don't think stretch fabric is really that useful for supportive garments anyway!
@tanakaryuunosuke2641
@tanakaryuunosuke2641 Месяц назад
I'm a big fan of the credits at the end!
@PalisDelon
@PalisDelon Месяц назад
Midwife here, the talk about pelvic deformity has got my brain going. The big advice I give my clients is to see a chiropractor in the last month to help with balancing the pelvis - modern life tends to tilt it off the level and into a forward tilt (like putting a bend in a pipe). I know most of the silhouette came from padding but if the corset was giving any kind of angle backwards that could cause problems during labor - prolonging the pushing phase.
@kathmorgan3429
@kathmorgan3429 Месяц назад
I am glad nebula is picking up the balls youtube is dropping.
@letyvdx
@letyvdx Месяц назад
Medical pregnancy and postpartum girdles are very common where I live. It just seems logical people on the past would find similar solutions for their every day problems
@a.g.richardson7178
@a.g.richardson7178 10 дней назад
Yeah I totally remember my mom wearing those after she had my brothers, and I know in China they have a traditional wrapping technique for postpartum
@aerolb
@aerolb Месяц назад
Great to see you back! Wonderful video and like the new format!
@maxine5859
@maxine5859 Месяц назад
I used to wear a (modern, midbust) corset a lot while breastfeeding my oldest kiddos. Can confirm, the up and over method works just fine 🙃 My bras of the time however were absolutely mangled from folding the cup over 🙄
@hahalove47
@hahalove47 Месяц назад
As a woman who has tried wearing wired bras while pregnant, I think this sounds so much more comfortable. Especially love the image of a baby being breastfed. Very practical.
@amyh6936
@amyh6936 Месяц назад
This was so interesting, thank you Bernadette & Sarah. I'm 5 months post-partum and can't imagine anyone tight lacing during pregnancy. With both my pregnancies I couldn't stand the discomfort of jeans etc past about 8 weeks of pregnancy so I agree with Sarah's point that claiming tight lacing was causing pregnancy complications was probably placing blame on something that women weren't even doing.
@chaos-sy1kq
@chaos-sy1kq Месяц назад
currently writing an essay and I needed a lunch break - thank you for an interesting video!! (and for making sure I actually take a break) EDIT: OH MY GOD OUTRO???? YESSSSSSSSSS
@evanmay
@evanmay Месяц назад
omg me too!
@spookysiamesecat4214
@spookysiamesecat4214 Месяц назад
Yay Bernadette’s back!!! We missed you!! Let the fun historical chaos begin!
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels Месяц назад
I just needed to offer praise for Danny's edits. The eyeblinks, in particular, were so perfectly subtle and well-timed. 😄
@snapedu9166
@snapedu9166 Месяц назад
Two queens maximizing their joint slay😂😂
@joycurry9509
@joycurry9509 Месяц назад
DR. SARAH BENDALL???!??? AMAZING
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie Месяц назад
Madame Banner! The production values on this video are fantastic!
@unrulycrow6299
@unrulycrow6299 Месяц назад
OMG YES I was waiting for this topic to by tackled by you (and your guest, thank you Sarah!)
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
One correction: bra straps are not meant to carry the weight of breasts. The main purpose of straps is to *help* shape and lift the breasts while holding them in one place. In a well designed and well fitted bra, about 90% of the weight is supported by the bra band - that's why it should fit snugly and why "sports bras" that you can pull over your head are useless. Unfortunately most women wear bras with much too wide band and much too small cups, which prevents the bra band from doing its job, digging grooves in arms, causing bad posture and damaging the bra. FYI: I currently wear size 32J (yes, bra alphabet doesn't end at "DDD" and you shouldn't increase band size just because there are no larger cups) and have a strapless bra that supports, shapes and lifts my breasts just fine without the help of straps.
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 Месяц назад
Ah yeah, the Nightmare of bra fitting, i only know one Brand where I live that even sells my size
@jennthya6982
@jennthya6982 Месяц назад
Ah yes, living in the US my poor breasts have never been housed in an appropriately sized bra.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@arianewinter4266 Luckily we live in the 21st century and online shopping is a thing! Totally worth it too, you get a much better selection and superior products.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH Месяц назад
@@arianewinter4266 Where do you live? Maybe I can recommend something.
@AdamantErinyes
@AdamantErinyes Месяц назад
Greetings, fellow A Bra That Fits bravangelizer. 😂
@nicolalang5603
@nicolalang5603 Месяц назад
Sarah is a delight! What a great guest, and so informative
@SibylleLeon
@SibylleLeon Месяц назад
Just signed up for Nebula, thank you so much! Been wanting to do this for ages ❤
@christinabejano1752
@christinabejano1752 28 дней назад
I made a pair of working class side lacing maternity stays for historical reenactment. I used doubled twine as boning. I was 7-8 months pregnant and it was very comfortable. Because it was side laced I was able to wear it as normal stays for years after that.
@nekomimime
@nekomimime Месяц назад
So glad you joined Nebula! Will watch you there in the future :)
@salomealhusami594
@salomealhusami594 Месяц назад
Yaaaay!!! 🎉 A new Bernadette video after so long! 😍😍😍 I'm so excited! 😊
@Silverbirchleaf
@Silverbirchleaf Месяц назад
Really enjoyed this video, and immediately bought Sarah's book! Also, those credits? Beautiful!
@RychaardRyder
@RychaardRyder Месяц назад
AHHH SHE HAS A NETFLIX WORTHY OUTRO OH MY GOD THE PRODUCTION VALUES
@cherrypl3
@cherrypl3 Месяц назад
your video is both so informative and interesting, thank you for being one of the content creators who are considerate of their audience ❤
@consu789
@consu789 Месяц назад
The end credits are chef's kiss. I love how you are constantly improving the quality of your videos. I started seeing your videos in 2019, and so far, I have loved the journey!
@hannahkat9722
@hannahkat9722 Месяц назад
This was really interesting! You manage to be super informative whilst keeping a casual and fun enough tone that it was impossible to zone out - both of you managed to do an amazing job
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Месяц назад
Love the interview! Also the credits at the end were so epic I didn't fast forward. And yay nebula!
@elizabethgall5327
@elizabethgall5327 Месяц назад
Thank you for addressing this fascinating topic! I also LOVE the new outro!
@naorivas
@naorivas Месяц назад
Thank you so much for covering this! I wish more historical dress RU-vidrs covered historical maternity clothing.
@thisisjustmyboringlife6996
@thisisjustmyboringlife6996 Месяц назад
The outro was gorgeous! ❤ Beautifully and epically filmed!
@cocoakodawari4192
@cocoakodawari4192 Месяц назад
AAAAAA Your filming and editing styles have gotten so much more cinematic now! Glad to see some more of your work again! cx ❤❤✨✨🙏🙏😊😊
@poetmaggie1
@poetmaggie1 Месяц назад
Bernadette said it, people mostly want to be comfortable, I want to be comfortable, most of us didn't wear them so tight we fainted for lack of air. In fact I suspect fainting is highly exaggerated, people not wearing Corsets can do it my little ones did it. They cried so hard they blew out all the good air and didn't get a breath until they blacked out. Adding these facts to some others I learned recently it sounds like a marketing campaign to sell something entirely different.
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme Месяц назад
Omg I just got the email notif for this, I was soooo excited!! So early!!
@allisont.6878
@allisont.6878 Месяц назад
Ooh, love to hear you're on Nebula now! I look forward to watching your stuff there as well!
@Demonreached
@Demonreached Месяц назад
This was wonderful. Thank you for posting!
@Aghul
@Aghul Месяц назад
I love these history lessons with you and your guests! And my god, that outro is amazing!
@McKennaRosen
@McKennaRosen Месяц назад
I love this! I’m 22 weeks pregnant wearing my belly support band and doing my dishes while learning about how women of the past wore their corsets during this season! Thank you for putting this together!
@kandace4088
@kandace4088 Месяц назад
Ahhh, so excited you joined Nebula! (The video was great, too, as always!)
@jengirl2
@jengirl2 Месяц назад
Beautiful credits at the end. Loved this video. Fascinating!
@laurabowles
@laurabowles Месяц назад
Loving the new end credits sequence, and the wee brave guinea pig on the title cards!
@ashleyciprich8881
@ashleyciprich8881 Месяц назад
I made myself a pregnancy corset to wear during our Civil war events. It was so comfortable and it helped by lifting my belly and taking the weight off of my back. I was 8 months pregnant when I wore it.
@marief9858
@marief9858 Месяц назад
I love Dr Sarah Bendall! Thank you Bernadette!
@MariekevanEijk
@MariekevanEijk Месяц назад
So happy to see you❤❤. Love hearing you refer to your wife, and love hearing about the hobbies!
@Annie-ex3ge
@Annie-ex3ge Месяц назад
I missen your content! Thank you for this wonderful deep dive!
@kjtherrick4031
@kjtherrick4031 Месяц назад
Interesting. I look forward to checking out Dr. Bendall's book and channel. Nice to see Ms. Banner back.
@Lero-gk6ig
@Lero-gk6ig Месяц назад
Girl, finally you are back! ❤
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