Always fascinating to me how some seemingly well-established cultural things only are like 100 or 200 years old when they give the appearance of being thousands
How about the references to God in US currency and the Pledge of Allegiance? The average Christian American ignorantly thinks that these have always been there as if commanded by their Lord from on High since time immemorial. Lol.
Engagement rings, Coca-Cola Santa Claus, "life begins at conception", etc. Now they're trying to make Gender Reveal Parties some kind of time-honoured tradition instead of heteronormative nonsense that's killed more people than Antifa.
I like to remind Americanists that the Pledge was written by a socialist Methodist minister and _did not_ include the words _Thundercats_ I mean _under God_ because it was _one nation,_ and not _just a small part of a nation._
@@brentwalker8596 It's unbelievable how successful the McCarthy era Christian nation rebranding was with rectconning away the country's secular foundation.
Great video! I betcha you and Esoterica and AngelicaPuca could do a great collaborative video on the development of Satan out of the Enochic literature and into the more modern-day esoteric stuff!
During the pandemic and the vaccine rollout, many conservative US Christians would loudly say they are not sheep. Some of them would say they are goats. I always thought it was funny because as Matthew 25 and the great poet Cake would say “Sheep go to Heaven, goats go to hell”.
The association of the devil with a goat has got to be earlier than the 19th-century: Goya is already depicted Satan as a black goat in his 1798 painting 'The Witches' Sabbath' - my understanding is that the painting's Spanish title 'El Aquelarre', the Spanish word for a witch's sabbath, is derived from a Basque term meaning 'he-goat', so the association must have been current in 18th century Spain.
Thanks for the correction! That was an oversight on my part. Someone else has pointed out that the association of goats with the witches' Sabbath, whether connected with Satan or not, goes back to the late 15th century CE, and particularly to Kramer's Malleus Maleficarum.
Dang! You beat me to it. I was so happy to be able to correct Dan for once. I was also going to point out that the imagery probably goes back to at least late Middle Ages. Better luck next time…
Fun fact (?): I've read a modern French translation of the Malleus Maleficarum, and the illustration on the cover of the book was that painting by Goya. Can't remember if goats were that prevalent in the text, though, or especially associated with Satan. What I do remember is the totally delirious misogyny of this text; it's so extreme, absurd and ridiculous that it would be hilarious if the consequences of this bigotry hadn't been so horrible and revolting...
It raises the question of whether The Devil / Baphomet have cool goat powers like easily traversing steep inclines ajd being able to eat any plants on a fallow field,
This is a compelling reason for a comprehensive exploration of the origins of ideas about heaven, hell and the devil - all of which I gather are late inventions.
Hail Santa. Reindeer are like goats if you squint hard enough, and a guy who can visit all the houses of the world in 24 hours to enact Christmas Justice is the GOAT in my view.
I visited a friend out in the country on a very hot day with a brand new paint job and parked under a tree, when I walked back out of the house there were a bunch of goats standing on my car eating the leaves! Amazingly, I never noticed any damage.
Here in Sweden about a century ago instead of Santa Claus we had a dude dressed in a grey fur and a goat skull with horns who went around to the houses and gave a piece of coal to those who had been bad during the year. I'm sure there is more to it than just that though. Just a funny side note.
I'm in Sweden. I don't think I have heard of that. Santa is new here, though, being essentially an American import. Our "Santa," as such, is a gnome. We call him the Yule Gnome, after all. Originally plural. Jenny Nyström is famous for her Yule Gnome(s) paintings. I believe the belief in little people (gnomes) was widespread here just a century ago or so. There are still people who believe in them and even claim to have seen them.
The pentagram as a symbol is fascinating, in that we know that it had strong associations with the Pythagorean cult and later as a protective symbol, often with the Greek word Hygeia written around it in 5 letters around it's points. However the idea of the pentagram having directionality, ie being right side up or upside down and associated with Evil is probably a relatively new phenomena. In depictions from the Classical world up through a depiction in Agrippa's " Books of Occult Philosophy" it is depicted facing upside down just as often as rightside up, and with no consistency or apparent change in meaning .
As an elemental device, it has earth and water at the feet, air and fire at the arms, and a _master_ spirit at the head. Reversed, you still have air and fire at the top, water and earth at the arms, and then the _subject_ spirit at the base. The notion being to subjugate one's spirit to the will of elemental powers, as opposed to professing dominion over nature. I don't know the origin of this but it sounds Golden Dawn-ish, late 18th C. or Crowley-ish.
I always thought the image of Pan as well as the statements in the New Testament about "separating the sheep from the goats" (as well as the scapegoat concept) played into this imagery.
Understandably, you seem to have missed the common occurrence of goat and goat imagery as in Early Modern "Elaborated concepts of witchcraft," particularly in Continental contexts. It shows up in Albrecht Dürer's (1471-1528) prints before the Witch Craze really got underway, and the theme remained in Continental accounts. Where goats didn't seem to play much of a role in the English-speaking world until Levi's synthetic Baphomet concept got loose in the later 19th Century.
The goat Christophane in Isaacs story I would imagine to be of some relevance. Exchanged one for another?.... The phone is a true mark of the beast. One reason why I don't have one.......
Another goat fact is that we get the word tragedy from theater in ancient Greece where they used the word "tragoidia" which means "goat song" but iirc they don't really know why, it's believed to be linked with Dionysus but there isn't iirc a clear reason.
No clear reason indeed, but a speculation many make is that the theater "choir" (for lack of a better word) was dressed in goat skins, and thus became the root for tragedy (τραγωδια - song of goats) and for a few scholars even τραγουδι (song, again ωδη των τράγων)
I think the association begins much earlier. Dante's inferno (Canto XXXIV) recounts a very animal-like lower body for Lucifer. "And when the wings enough were open thrown / He grasped the shaggy ribs and clutched them close, / And so from tuft to tuft he downward went / Between the tangled hair and crust which froze. / We to the bulging haunch had made descent, / To where the hip-joint lies in it." It's not fully realized, but demonstrates a move in this direction.
Baphomet appears to be wordplay on Mahomet, which is the Latin name for the Prophet Muhammad. Medieval Christians wrongly believed Muslims worshiped him as a god. Templars getting accused of worshiping Baphomet was them basically getting accused of syncretizing with Islam. Christians saw Islam as the polar antithesis of their religion, so that may have played a part as well.
But after the Crusades in the Holy Land ended, all of that was basically forgotten for centuries until 18th and 19th century occultists and esotericists started digging it up again.
Well, Islam IS the polar antithesis of Christianity, as made obvious by the complete opposition of ideologies. Muhammad and/or "Allah" essentially, in the writ9ngs of Quran, say "Jesus is Messiah, but ignore his teachings and follow us as we head in the opposite direction."
@@joshuacromley7439 that’s ludicrous! Islam just denies that any created thing is God. It is the Trinitarians and polytheists that are going their own heretical way.
@@joefilter2923 no. Christ preaches "love your enemies," Muhammad teaches the polar opposite of that in Quran 9:5. Christ teaches honesty and Truth, things based in reality itself, while Muhammad teaches that deception for the course of Islam (Taqiyah) is fine. Christ teaches that "he who is without sin cast the first stone," as a sinful person killing a sinful person ONLY reflects the duality of hypocrisy, and duality is a trait NOT to be ascribed to God in traditional Judaism AND Christianity.
Matthew 25:32-“And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:” John 8:44-"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
In the rijksmuseum there is a drawing of the devil Titivillus as a goat. The drawing is made between 1600 and 1800. He’s responsible for spelling mistakes. And Krampus, a local devil is also goat like.
So I'm wondering if Dan has read Neil Stephenson, particularly Snow Crash or the Cryptonomicon. They're fiction, but there are linguistic concepts I'd love his take on. Plus, Cryptonomicon has Enoch!
I didn’t notice mention of Leviticus 17:7. ~And they shall no longer offer their sacrifices to the goat demons with which they play the prostitute. This shall be a permanent statute to them throughout their generations.”’
It is from the two counter-rotating vortices of the superbolide, The Thunderweapon, it is symbolized globally as wavy not jagged as lightning. Thor is associated with Two curly horned goats with Bright eyes and flying meteoric iron. Pan and the Seven pipes, indicates The Pleiades, the source of the space falls.
And as I considered, behold, a goat came from the West over the whole Earth, and touched not the ground: and this goat had an horn that appeared his eyes.
In the beginning, other was created. The angel had one of two choices, turn away from the other and trust the creator to do that which could not be done or continue being swept into the other. The angel didn't see it as a choice. The angel plead with the creator to stop because the angel was being swept away, into the other. The creator said all the angel could do was turn away and trust in the creator. The angel sacrificed itself, becoming the accuser of the creation. The angel would prove that the other could never be allowed into that which is. The accuser proved it over and over, but to no avail. Yes, I made that up. I figure my interpretation of everything might as well be thrown in with everything else.
“ *Seitan* (UK: /ˈseɪtæn/, US: /-tɑːn/;[1] Japanese: セイタン) is a food made from gluten, the main protein of wheat.[2] It is also known as miànjīn (Chinese: 麵筋), fu (Japanese: 麩), milgogi (Korean: 밀고기), wheat meat, gluten meat, or simply gluten. It is made from vital wheat gluten, a flour-like substance primarily consisting of gluten extracted from wheat flour.” It truly is one of the Greatest Of All Time foods, if you ask me. In my opinion, seitan is a GOAT. 😎
Thank you various fascinating cultural references and lovely french accent. But i wander witch god would supposedly forgive so much sexism and homophobia? He must be pretty univocal!
I'm not gonna comment on the creators appearance or speech. I WILL comment on their plushie collection: their plushie collection is great and I wish I could sleep surrounded by them every night.
I would also add Pan, the Greek god of the wild, and that those who practice kosher rites don't eat from animals with split hooves, such as goats, as possible references.
Ironic that Baphomet comes from the term "Muhammad". I also think that goats are used in contrast to sheep (associated with believers in New Testament). BTW, nice you don't have such SSRI dead eyes in this video as in the others.
After the wrath of the sacrificial lamb, he becomes the scapegoat with the sins placed on him and sent into the desert. Two appearances, within the same generation, at the end of the ages, the time of the harvest. YHWH judged the gods, who neither know nor understand, wandering about in darkness, and became the snake or, goat with the sin placed on him - thus fulfilling the law. Adam, the Christ, wields the fiery sword, judges the earth, and becomes a worm - thus fulfilling the law. The wrath of the lamb sounds antichrist. Or, antithetical to the nature of Christ.
You have to raise goats to understand the real answer to this question. Dan's answer is total nonsense. Clear indication he's never even been around them
Satan told the truth from the beginning and wanted to help us attain knowledge. He was always looking out for us and helping humanity grow and progress. He is the GOAT. There's your connection 😁
