How did The Ottomans Reach Indonesia in the 16th Century? 

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​@@TheOghuz78 Bu adam savunma bakanlığından daha fazla iş yapıyo.Heleki Balkanlardan gelen kaybeden Osmanlı tebalarına karşı tokat gibi cevapları yeter.

@@TheOghuz78 ben peki?

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@@papazataklaattiranimam ayrılmaz ikili

Keren, Biasanya liat lewat internet kurang berkesan, jadi pengen kesana langsung.👏👏

Same with me

Kamu kok jago English ya??

history that Indon try to hide.

But Now Turkiye is Sekulerisme Islam, why Aceh still use Ottoman flag?

Source?

@@muhammadnursultan9704 The sultan himself

​@@muhammadnursultan9704 history of Yogyakarta Sultanate / Islamic Mataram Sultanate.

Indian Muslims fight against British troops? what about Hindus who are the majority? Only Mysore a sultanate fought against the British, are you referring to them?

@@woffydo I refer to revolts near WW1 and some battles between indians and british

Sayangnya di daerah lain di indonesia mulai beredar pemerintahan sekulerisme 😔

​@@HermannTeinenzorg you can live in 15th century let others live in 21st century.

​@@epg96kayaknya abang kita satu ini sangat salty sama aceh & sejarahnya😂😂

@@epg96 gk maju maju

@@HermannTeinenzorg Bagaimana kabar Aceh? Apakah masih menjadi provinsi termiskin di Sumatera? BSI gimana nasibnya bro?

What was the tribe of your grandfather?

@@aba_dhar Idk from which tribe, But My Grandmother just told me that My Great Grandfather was a Trader from Mesopotamia nowadays is Iraq

I'm also from west sumatra . Indeed, in west sumatra we can easily find middle east/ indian looking people , which means we had a lot ancestors from there. Which region do you live in west sumatra?

@@aldijavaddsaputra9141 Suliki, Payokumbuah

Wow your name is Alparslan han. İs it your real name or nickname?

To be fair the crescent moon and sultanate titles etc could also have come from the Muslim advances in the India and Indonesia regions anyway. There were already Islamic kingdoms around there before the Ottoman empire made a larger presence there

​@@harku123 the crescent moon is not an Islamic symbol it's Ottoman actually

@@hazat8123 sorry but actually of Greek origin en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_and_crescent

@@lamondaforestry as far as I know the Ottomans started using the crescent moon symbol after Osman I. Had a dream where he saw a crescent moon form around the earth. I'm not saying you're wtong there could have been connections but dream would make more sense the Ottomans used dreams and prophecies a lot for political motivation and expansion (Constantinople for instance)

@@hazat8123 you're right that it's not necessarily an Islamic symbol because it was originally designed and used in the original Greek colony of byzantium but that was almost a millennium before the Ottoman empire even existed so it's not an "ottoman symbol" but it's predominantly used as a symbol for Islam and the ottomans used it and because they were so big, they were the ones seen using it most, hence it's mostly associated with Ottomans/Turks

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​@@davidivory3234 ya terus? Apa harus orang Jawa?

​@@absyahwa7698 Ottoman itu hanafi sunni

​@@davidivory3234david😂

Aceh ya Aceh, Indonesia ya indonesia di p Jawa

Greetings from Nusantaran continent to Eurasia

Not all of us are Muslim, and a majority of us are not very religious

@@alisalihsar1804 That's true. The last time, I know that Indonesians irreligious percentage might be somewhere around 42%.

@@hanggaraaryagunarencagutuh7072 I am Turkish

We dont like Islam, it isnt our culture..You dont like to change your culture and religion over à trade, means Turquie must follow Indonésien culture and religion, Will you ? ...Stop invasion in the name of trade....We continue our ancestral heritage, culture and religions...We are not Muslims ....🎉 Islam is not our religion...🤮..No offence, keep your culture, religion there..

ACEH YA ACEH. Indonesia ya indonesia di pulau jawa

Dan jan lupa juga perang panjang Aceh melawan belanda bro👍

@@abisyamil7070 ya menarik juga kalau ada videonya. Sejarah Asia Tenggara memang agak terlupakan dalam pembahasan dunia.

Greetings and respect from Turkey🇹🇷🇦🇿☝️

Actually Ternate Sultanate from Moluccas also succeeded in expelling the Portuguese from their kingdom, if I'm not mistaken the event is also mentioned in this video

@@adilpangestu3924 yes, but Portuguese has ever occupied it for a while

Conquest? You mean the enslaved and massacre 😅

@@fairoboilawrence5287 Keep crying

@Fairoboi Lawrence Cry some more!!

@@yaasinm The same way you keep crying over Al Andalus. Spain, Sicily, Malta, and the Philippines, has been Rechristianized from Islam you cant have them back. :P

​@@renesarabia6442 well europeans are leaving christianity

Pati Unus from the Sultanate of Demak (Java) died fighting the Portuguese in Malacca...

thanks to Aceh, Aceh sultanate was the first bridge to Ottoman for knowing the other islamic nation existence in the indonesia region and as a world caliphate Ottoman form a strong presence make a mission diplomatic in the region

Tdk ada fakta bukti apapun yg mengatakan jawa kerjasama dg ottoman, apa lagi menganggap mereka kalipah. Ingat islam yg dipraktekkan mataram sngt penuh dg unsur buddha dan hindu dimana mereka msh percaya dewa².

​@@KevinManguns Tdk ada bukti kerjasama jawa dan ottoman dlm politik.

@@davidivory3234 ada, terjadi pada masa Mataram Islam dan seterusnya. Buktinya terdapat ornamen ornamen kesultanan utsmaniyah diatas pintu masuk keraton kasunanan surakarta dan ornamen ornamen di tempat tempat lainnya. Hubungan diantara keduanya merupakan bukan bawahan langsung dengan wilayahnya dikuasai oleh turki.

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​@@kaanefeuzumcu3674 he will fall with his bag of onion

I mean during the 16th century the muslim presence in Indonesian archipelago was very small so it did need to seek protection from a strong muslim power against the christian colonial predence and hindu presence.

Only during dutch colonization that promoted the spread of islam islam solidified and became the dominant religion in Indonesia while currentday malayasia was already muslim but this was not the case for indonesia

pretty sure some infidels were just plain hindus and buddhists protecting their land from islamic invasions, don't forget the invasion of blambangan and small ofshoots of the majapahit kingdom and the constant infighting of javanese islamic empires.

@@epg96 Source?

@@aidenabboud2451 Source?

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No.. There is no formal ties between ottoman and jogja.. A lot of distortion and hoax.

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Hoax.. False history..

It has its down and ups for the relationship tbh

When did ottomans fought battle in India

@@tellme8140 check kings and generals in one of their portugal vs ottomans series . the fans theres even made a meme that ottomans would fight Portuguese even in the arctic or the moon because they fought everywhere

Not True

His true name is Cheng Ho... Dunno, since why did his name become Zheng He... Like the case of Chin Yung novel characters, such as Yo Ko become Yang Guo, Kwee Siang become Guo Xiang, Thio Sam Hong become Zhang Sanfeng and Peking become Beijing...

It was Yemeni traders that spread Islam in Malaysia and Indonesia

@@kusari86 🤔🤔🤔 Dunno... But it isn't recorded in our history book... Cheng Ho came from Hui tribe, Sunan Maulana Malik Ibrahim from Morocco, Sunan Asmarakandi from Samarkand, Sunan Ampel from Champa... There was no record regarding Yemeni traders... Only Gujarat, Samarkand, China, Champa, and Morocco...

Now there is a clash between Habib from Yaman who claims to be a descendant of the Prophet with traditional Islam in Indonesia. They (the Habib) are very famous for their affiliation with Salafi-Wahabi-Takfiri and Ikhwanul Muslimin/Khilafah. For the common good, do not discuss people of Yemeni descendants in Indonesia... They want special treatment in Indonesia, like the highest caste. They even made a fatwa that studying from the ignorant Yemeni Habib (jahil) is better than studying religion/agama Islam from 70 non-Arab (ajam) religious scholars. Keywords: Habib Bahar bin Smith, Habin Rizieq Shihab, Hizbut Tahrir Indonesia, khilafah

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@@MerdoKhan1905 tbh the only paradox game I've played is Hoi4

@ايوب الترهوني هو لا ينحدث عن الاتحاد الاروبي الحالي بل عن لعبة اروبا 4 وعن كون الدولة العثمانية والبندقية وسلطنة اش ملوكم التجارة العالمية فيها ,,,,,

But the ottomans reneged on their Venetian allies, and lost naval supremacy in the Mediterranean... Greed was their downfall.

@@nunolip It was probably more complicated than that

You forget those uleebalaang who accepted Dutch colonial rule

Qizilbash Turks

Ottoman Empire is joke compare to Mughals.

But why they were defeated by Turkiye and Egypt's Mamluk navys?

@takira nayaki When exactly? Take a look at the Diu battle. Not even the Mamluks and Turkish plus Venecians could handle it. Total massacre. There's always the point of view of military and tactical win/lost. It's possible to win a battle and tactically lose the point of it. Very complex theme.

⁠@@takiranayaki7870 because they were thousands of miles away from home while the turks were had easy back up, and why did the turks lost while having 200 hips vs 17 portuguese ships?

@@takiranayaki7870 The Portuguese were not defeated. The Portuguese defeated the Turks and they allies. It was a strategic turning point in history. The Portuguese would later be defeated by the Dutch.

Research on Ottoman influence in Java needs to be expanded. The Ottoman military system was also adopted in Yogyakarta during the "Java War" by Prince Diponegoro against the Dutch VOC.

itu hanya influence.. tidak ada hubungan antara ottoman dan jawa secara kenegaraan..

​@@pusatbukubekas3051Tdk ada bukti sejarah catatan sejaman, jangan mengada². Ketika ottoman pada masa jaya nya jawa sdh menjadi bagian ducth east indie, yg ada hanya hubungan belanda dg ottoman. Suka ngayal kalian, sy orang jawa tp sy berpegangan fakta klu sjrh hrs berdasarkan catatan sejaman.

Jgan bikin gw ketawa...

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Not really. You are an exception

not indonesia.. but the depp relationship is between Turkish and Acehnese.. Ottoman Aceh.. Indonesia didnt exist at that time

@@alisalihsar1804 it is a growing trend right now.

​@@alisalihsar1804Turks say real Turks

@@amoncoolman what

Aleyküm selam

Those fuckers are always in :D

It’s hard to talk of the Mediterranean region between the years 800 and the late 1700’s without mentioning The Republic Of Venice, it’s like talking about the 20th century and trying to ignore the USA

​@@patrickols Lol... you compared the old Venetia with today's USA? 😂😂 Venetia was a mediocre or even below in the era of Ottoman, Byzantium and Egypt's Mamluk navys.

@@takiranayaki7870 hmmmm at one point in my post did I compared the Republic of Venice and the USA? I wrote and I repeat it here, it’s difficult to talk about the history of the Mediterranean of that time without mentioning Venice. Just like it’s difficult to talk about the history of the 20th century without mentioning the USA…how is that comparing exactly? Plus if you think that the Republic of Venice wasn’t important in that time frame, you might want to go and read a few more books, just saying. It was anything but mediocre.

​@@patrickols So Venice was strong for a very long time...

Fransa'yı da eklesinler mi sınırlarımıza ne dersin

thank you brother.. one day insya Allah

I hope Nusanata goes back to it's Hindu past, of the Majapahit.@@glevt

@@woffydo i hope not.

The diversity of Indonesia values is based on the Hindu verse "Truth is one, sages call it by various names." It is derived from Rig Veda Samhita 1.164.46, to which the Majapahit had enshrined upon. Bhineka tungkal ika , this is the underlying principle. @@glevt

@@woffydo and islam is the enlightment for southeast Asia particularly for Aceh ..

Like Africa it's North and West. Europe its South East near Vienna and Part of Ukarine which Russia takes. Asia might be bigger too as in more Persia via 7 years war (I prefer 8)

The greatest time of the Ottomans was the year 1580 While Morocco-Indonesia-Arabian Peninsula and Poland were vassals, the central lands of the empire consisted of Western Iran-Caucasus-Anatolia-Syria-Iraq-Egypt-Libia-Tunisia-Algeria-Balkans and Crimea.

@@scourgeofgodattila579 Cool stuff but I prefer my way with a few exceptions like Muslim going to Indonesia, not the Ottoman control.

Regarding the war against Russia, indeed that channel is very bias.

@@kenirawadi4689 I havent watched all those videos tho,I am not a russian so really dont care that much to be more historicly accurate it will pass atleast 50 years for us to see the truth.

@@uwqq2146 They are not false just bias not most of the facts, I have no idea why.They spend a lot of money to draw maps,desing and stuff but they are always innacurate most of the time.Can't tell you what provocate me that time but its not the fisrt time so i just unsibribed and never wanna watch a video of that chanell witch is sad.I was folllowing and waiting for a video since they were 50k sub.

What were Acehnese relations with later Dai Viet like?

Never heard of it Interesting

As we know, the remaining Champa-nese now live in Aceh. They are Malays who fled from Indochina... Like the story of Aji Saka/Ajivaka/Ajivika, Malaya/Malay, Kamboja-Champa, and Yavana/Java-Sundanese who fled India in the past... The first wave was during the Aji Saka/Ajivaka period, then during the Ashoka/Muria-Keling (Maurya-Kalingga) war, and Sriwijaya-Cholamandala war... Even the religious center moved from Nalanda to Borobudur and Mount Semeru (East Java)...

Bujeed dah baru denger gue. Sejarah macam mana pulak ini? Yg jd penguasa Aceh adalah orang2 champa !🤣 ntah hapa hapa !🤣

the kings of champa aldy converted to islam before the lee than thong invasion actually

It was way harder for the Portuguese, and they won...

kesultanan Aceh sama kesultanan samudra pasai beda kerajaan bang🗿 ya wilayahnya memang sama-sama di aceh. tapi tetep beda negara.

bukannya samurai pasai sama aceh benci bencian ya? terus Samudra pasai menjadi bawahan nya malaka Lalu jadi bawahan nya portugis (saat malaka jatuh) baru di anexasi sama aceh saat melawan portugis

Different kingdom

@@errte7 *different sultanate

@@otakufilsuf tetanggaan kaya tom & Jerry

Also Aceh

they were more of a protectorate, some people might have thought protectorate and vassal is the same thing. even tho they are quite different

Ottomans had strange relations with most Muslim and Christian states. Essencially they never had real motive for annexation or conquest of some state when things were easier with indirect formal rule (protectorate or vassalage), which in turn was a way cheaper option than maintaining direct ruled province. Only when those type of relations were endangered and disturbed by appetites of some new next solid enemy, then they took percursive actions for direct and complete anexation only to secure its territorial flanks and borders. One of many such examples is Kingdom of Hungary which was completely defeated in Battle of Mohacs in 1526, but not destroyed at all, only changed one ruler and dinasty (Catholic), with it’s own (Protestant) ruler and dinasty instead of creating annexed province. Only after Habsburgs started in 1528 serious incursions in ill defined limmits in Ottoman-Habsburg spheres in Hungary, in 1541 Ottomans were forced to annex 1/3 of vassal Hungary which was under direct danger of incursions, while the other 1/3 remained rump but still a vassal state, a smaller version of now ex vassal Hungary known as Principality of Erdel (Transylvania) was created in 1570. This shows that Ottomans even when they were a serious superpower of its time, tried with all costs to avoid illogical and expensive vast adventourous expansions. If we see things objectively without religious bias, then First Siege of Vienna 1529 was not a total conquering ‘jihadi’ expedition but a (failed) punitive expedition to stop Habsburg incursions in vassal Hungary, and the Second Siege of 1683 was a conquering (again failed) expedition to finally secure its direct domination of Hungary, as they did previously secured their direct domination of Balkans defeating Kingdom of Hungary itself in Mohacs. And even in hypotetical eventual successful Ottoman siege of Vienna, instead of annexing it they most likely only would try to change the (Catholic) ruling dinasty of HRE (Germany) with some Reformed (Protestant) one.

@@Dragonman998 interesting

@@Dragonman998 bro never skips history class

@@Dragonman998 almost every one missing a point that the Ottomans were very smart. How come an Islamic Power could compete with 4 to 5 European Powers and in addition a Safavid Power in their east border? That was because they were very smart. The Ottomans were stronger than each of the European Power but were nothing if those European Powers were unite. That's what they were doing, they trade and make profits for some of those European and punish the others. Those European Powers competed which each other. The same goes with the Crusaders. How come small crusader states could last about 200 years in the sea of Islamic Powers? Because, those Islamic Powers were competing each others. The Crusaders made alliance with some Islamic Emirates and attack others. It is called geopolitics.

What? What good benefits? The first 300 years Christians were barred from trading, leaving it to a Jewish sect called Radhanites. The Ottomans and Dutch had good trading relations for centuries. So dit the Venetians with the Ottomans and Mamluks. The Portuguese upheld good relationship with the Mughals. England was overly protective of Zanzibar and the Sultanate of Oman. The only moment conflict really arose between the West and the Islamic world had to do with abolitionism and cossair piracy. Not to mention all the benefits that came with European imperialism. Namely the massive population-boom in various colonies. You are just an ignorant bigot, that wants to hate on Euro's for ending up more successful. Study some History before you speak.

Agreed.

The person that fears Allah, that person you can fully trust.

Kog bisa bro?

Bukan begitu kejadiannya Bro. Gujarat memperlakukan Ottoman dengan baik, menjamu mereka dan memberi semua yang mereka butuhkan. Satu hal yang tidak bisa mereka lakukan adalah melindungi Armada Ottoman dari Portugis. Saat itu datang Armada Besar Portugis, mereka menyuruh Laksamana Ottoman untuk menyerah, Ottoman tidak mau. Tapi ada negosiasi dan perjanjiannya adalah Portugis tidak menyerang Gujarat/Ottoman dan dapat jaminan, Gujarat/Ottoman tak menjadi ancaman bagi Armada Portugis. Maka kapal2 perang Ottoman harus dibakar. Istilah sekarang adalah "Netralisasi", lawan ente tidak menyerah, ente biarkan, tapi ente menuntut mereka menghancurkan senjata mereka yang bisa mengancam ente. Itu hal yang biasa, baik Ottoman dan Portugis sama2 bisa menjaga nyawa pasukan mereka. Jadi siapa yang membakar kapal2 Ottoman? Ya orang Ottoman sendiri bukan orang Gujarat, tuan rumah mereka.

Curious too. What i know is when Malacca Sultanate fall, the noble who survive escape to southern of Malaysia and form Johore Sultanate. That is the time when Johore and Ottoman got a really closed relationship. Johore banner even had Ottoman influence until now. Anyway for China, if i remember right, they rejected Malacca requested at that time.

@@Justin1an But I heard they let the last Sultan in to have an audience with the Emperor and the Sultan somehow convinced the imperial court that the Portuguese people came to the Great Ming with bad intention and even spreading the rumor that these Franks are cannibals that led to the Portuguese merchants and sailors to be treated with hostility? No, I mean it. That was what happened when the Emperor allowed the Sultan to speak first in the court since Malacca was the Great Ming's vassal at the time.

He did thou the chinese Emperor even demanded the Portuguese return mallaca to the sultan and asked chinese tributaries in the region to make war on the Portuguese

It survived as johor sultanate

Ottoman never sent aid to Malacca when Portuguese invaded. Because Malacca already strong with 4000+ canons, ships, war elephants and well equipped musketeers..although mostly mercenaries... They only lose because of betrayal by chinese and indian merchants, the malaccan navy...even then Portuguese conquered just one city which turned to fortress. They didn't dare to venture out of their fortress and stay put inside...they just want trade routes only...besides, Malaccan sultan blundered when he started the whole mess by capturing Portuguese merchants when they didn't do anything wrong. That gave the Portuguese the justification to capture the city...if only they were smart and play their games a bit longer, an invasion could be avoided...