I thought I was being conspiratorial but many of you in the comments believe Nazar submitted this game to try and get featured. Starting an investigation now! Stay tuned! UPDATE#2: Update 1 below if you wanna read that first. - sc2pulse.nephest.com/sc2/team/history?type=team-mmr&legacyUid=201-2-223986451#team-mmr-history Here's evidence that Nazar is a classic smurf who drops their mmr by about 1000 once every month or two. Their peak MMR was 3444, and they drop to 2290 MMR. Most of their games seem to be played around 3k MMR and then occasionally they rank up to diamond 3, run into stiffer opposition and then throw a bunch of games in a row. The weird thing is if these are those thrown matches... they could just leave instantly. But instead hang around and do really random balance whine whilst playing like shit?? This person's life is a conundrum to me. I can't say I understand what they get out of this lol. Plz explain denizens of the internet UPDATE#1: I cast the games out of order, so let's flip them to show what got sent to me in which order: Map vs Fexei was sent January 3rd at "2900 MMR" which is PLAT 2. Map vs FordFestiva was sent Feb 13th at "Diamond 3" EU I've reached out to both players to ask for photos/screenshots of them logged into their accounts to confirm they aren't Nazar. The email accounts seem unique, are from different countries and one even has a google profile picture attached to their gmail account. If this is Nazar sending these in it's a ridiculous amount of effort he went to. If not... it appears he's potentially been RANKING UP on the ladder playing like this... and if he isn't in diamond 3, is at least close enough to match with one which means plat 2 at the lowest, so at least stable at this ranking. The complaints and knowledge of build names tells me he's watched some streams or read some complaints about meta build orders. But perhaps just has never looked at his own play and tried to improve. I'm genuinely flabbergasted at what intent someone would have playing hundreds of games in the hope someone else submitted their replay to be featured on a RU-vid show.
This whole thing is wild to read. I knew there was no way he was genuinely a new players. You don't go from not knowing what a medivac is to picking up tanks with them in a few seconds. I just thought he was a player who enjoyed trying to make his opponents laugh with how seemingly dumb he is.
Great investigation, something seemed really odd with this guy. It bothered me a little in the first game how he mentioned 4 gate blink which is fairly advanced build and went on to do something so conspicuously bad as that no gas 5 rax 6 minute timing.
@@mattt3942 the thing is he didn't submit the games. Does he jsut do this for hundreds of ladder games hoping someone else sends it in? Or is this just something he... enjoys doing?
@@carmine9021 Maybe the Stargazers one was sent in weeks ago but didn't make the cut. Now a fresh one got sent in, Dot remembered it and put those two together
"What is meravac" -- proceeds to ferry tanks, stutter step, scan burrowed units, use multiple control groups, and maintain fairly decent production. Quality of play rapidly improved during the base race. Definitely fake I think.
I've submitted the first game, I'm very surprised to see a second Nazar game right after. I can send any proof needed to PiG. I can assure that game was not sent in by Nazar at least.
I think this is the first salt mines i didn't really enjoy because its not authentic salt from geniune mines. Nazar is defintely just salt manufacturer.
Yup. Same. He's having fun playing the fool while he drops his MMR. He clearly knows how to use his units, what his opponents' units are, and even spends his money while microing; He's just throwing in mindbogglingly bad moves for it to be a close game because he doesn't make a bunch of smaller mistakes that pile up (unlike his opponents).
Be it as it may we should not be distracted from him being a POS. It is much more sad and pathetic to be doing it "ironically" than to just being plainly mad and feel stung by helplessness. I'm not even the one playing these games but I was cringing while watching one and a half games, if it was me I would have given him the win by quitting. There is nothing interesting or funny about this. It is sad, that is what it is.
@Split Dimension PiG investigated and confirmed in his next video he was tanking his MMR, but not trying to be featured by PiG. His wild macro flubs were to hold back his real skill level and not meant to be reviewed in replays.
I been following the Zerg Bronze to Gm and learned so much this guy called me a smurf even tho im dog shit at the game lol made me feel good thanks for all the great info
I get a similar vibe, the micro and tiny decisions are too good for someone claiming to not know what a Nydus is. Like he doesn't know what a Medivac is but then uses them immediately to pick up tanks that are stuck? Idk about that lol Edit - But as PiG said, there are so many decisions that just bad/confusing that idk, it could be either.
Nazar has big smurf energy. It's like he watches harstem do BGMWSS and pig do salt mines and thinks to himself, I can play like an idiot on purpose, flame the game/opponent, and get featured because of it.
Maybe Nazar is about 10 years old, and does not yet grasp the concept of seeking out information? That's really the only thing I can think of which would explain this strange combination of very bad language, ignorance, extreme lack of self-awareness, yet still a decent ability to incorporate new concepts into his "strategy".
That's not 10yo English. Nazar is a common name in Ukraine. There are virtually no 10yo that can speak English that well in Ukraine. And the ones that do are most probably very smart: they could master a very alien language that well at the age of 10. And if they are that smart, they wouldn't be making these kinds of mistakes and complaints. So ours Nazar isn't 10yo. He's probably in at least late teens or early 20's. _"That's really the only thing I can think of which would explain this strange combination of very bad language, ignorance, extreme lack of self-awareness, yet still a decent ability to incorporate new concepts into his "strategy""_ That's above average English for an adult Russian or a Ukrainian. English is a pretty alien language for us and you can't really even learn it at school to this level(45 minutes per lesson 3 times a week at school won't let you learn it to this level), have to use it somewhere else too, like playing video games. Ignorance and extreme lack of self-awareness is also normal here for teenagers and adults, too. If you have any doubts, try playing multiplayer games with Russians and Ukrainians such as: Squad, CS2, Valorant. Then you'll understand everything what I said above. Never underestimate the stupidity of an adult member of Homo Sapiens.
5:19 What he means to say there is "In a normal game, you win becouse you are better. In that shit (SC2), you win becouse you are prottoss." But then he plays a normal game anyway so yeah lol and lmao, glad to see artosis is back to playing sc2
Yesterday I learnt about discworlds existence from a totally unrelated post. not even on youtube. today it gets mentioned again. the universe is trying to tell me something i guess lol
The final fights were so satisfying, ultras just don't seem to able to have fun anymore, but at least here they got to cleave through all those marines. Good times.
Nazar has so much knowledge about the game and at the same time he has huge gaps in it. He knows how to say GG which would indicate that he is at least watching some SC2 content creators but at the same time he looks like he is trolling. This is just so bizzare like is he drunk or what?
The thing is tough I've seen Nazar players (only marine blobbing getting no stim or combatshield or medivacs). Is it weird tough that about half of em are raynor in co op on brutal diff with their raynor max leveled. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really, really want to see a tvt game with nazar. It should be really interesting ("This game color is broken" or "this top left corner is broken")))
I am one of those people that never learned how to play until very recently lol. I have been playing since 2010 and 12 year old me just didnt give a shit about build orders or anything like that
If this was staged salt by nazar, he must have been so confused at the second game. He knew he was playing the worst opening and game in the world, but somehow he wasn't dieing to a hive tech zerg on what he thought was 4 base. Insane.
Reading all the comments - Yeah Nazar is most likely a troll and most likely he's throwing, but he's just complaining, not really insulting. He plays somewhat of a game and ggs - I have no problem with those players.
this is so obvious troll, there is no way he does not know what is a medivac and build one in 1 minute to lift the tanks from being stuck, has camera and production hotkeys, does a lot of splits on marines at the same time and even stuttersteps
I recently fought a 1700 MMR player who has mastered this no-gas/mass-marines build. He had at least 4 bases with about 20 barracks and luckily gave up after 3 or 4 waves. Being a PvP newbie on SC2 still practising the B2GM beginner's build I was really struggling and making mistakes, but the Colossus and High Templars I had prepared due to Observer scouting saved my ***.
I feel like Nazar payed to have someone boost him to Masters in his F2P game and has been since playing at a high-bronze level as he descends the ladder wondering why terran seems so weak o.o;
i think nazar truly understands how to play sc2. 1. play terrain 2. do anything including reading other tabs instead of playing better and learning 3. complain other races are easy mode but never play either of them 4. repeat steps 1-4
I rage queue way too often without realizing it. I don’t go all salty to my opponent, but at some point I will just realize I feel miserable and haven’t wanted to play for the last hour, but kept queuing out of a stubborn desire to “end on a win.”
After the first game, i thought Nazar was a good guy who had a really bad day. After the second game, i realised he's just a new player who hasn't even played the tutorial but seen all the memes 😂
@@Samissa806You think that's the more likely option even after he listed like 5 different protoss cheeses the first game he played? Really? This just seemed fake.
After all these years of playing I've finally started to not select-all, bringing my whole army back in these situations and leaving a portion of my army to press on the attack. Such a difference maker. 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
Watching that zerg bumbling about felt like watching myself, and I'm 3k MMR, so I fully believe that they probably hover around plat 1 but have had hot streaks into diamond
I broke my ankle last month and I still have at least another month of recovery...so I decided to learn how to play starcraft and now I just play starcraft all day :)
Maybe nazar is 11 years old, doesnt know about guides and learnt all the micro by himself. If so, maybe we have a future serral up and coming, when he actually learns about all the other mechanics
Ok this is from experience. An elder brother is good at the game. The younger brother doesn't have that much free time cause of studies and plays during the holidays when their bro goes for work. The younger brother never knew abt nor played the campaign. During vacations the elder bro has to let he little bro play no choice. So during vacations his mmr dips drastically. Younger brother then complains and rather sees replays and tells him abt enemy builds. The younger brother thinks both other races are non human and evil so only plays Terran. But then when the younger brother goes to school the elder brother actually gets to play at night. Because he's playing against far weaker players he actually can win and gets back up in rank and then stabilizes until the next vacation. Also in the experience I am the younger brother. Played dota. Spammed techies and lost ranked to zues. Didn't actually know supporting and griefed trying to carry while still not knowing to last hit. My brother's rage was fun. He got me another account but we had only 1 computer. He got a second hand laptop and we played. We tried to get into warcraft but we both are bad at micro.
Personally I like to fight AI, it's not the same as PvP but the AI still gives me a run for my money and that's usually enough for me know that I need to improve, so I kind of wonder how many of these players have actually fought the AI :v Edit: Fexei plays like the campaign AI and that's super charming in my opinion, I'd love to be able to do that but like stated above I barely understand what I'm doing to begin with.
I've seen episodes of Bronze League Heroes with more coherent gameplay. I'm so confused. My assessment is, yes this is a troll (or somebody doing a challenge run). The skill gets turned on and off. He stutter steps, knows how to focus fire, splits, backs up after the first volley from lurkers, builds marauders as soon as ultras are revealed, knows to pick up a tank despite just learning what a medivac is. I think the biggest tell is floating the main CC for _literally no apparent reason_ . Even Bronze players *think* they have a plan when they do that, Florencio *does* have a plan if he does that.
No, no -- Bong Cloud was lifting your main and moving it to the expansion. It made it look like you had expanded when you were actually pulling a one-base all-in ...
This felt like it was purposefully faked for the purpose of being featured specifically on this RU-vid series. Him listing off a long list of protoss cheeses at first, then acting like he didn't know what units existed in the game seemed like genuinely dogshit acting. He did not come off as a noob who was thrown into the ladder either, he clearly had the mechanics of the game down pat, like more advanced things like upgrading to orbitals and using scan to scan for lurkers and drop mules, but he didn't know what medivacs are? I call BS.
The second game is the weirdest but it also shows one thing (to me at least): I assume he was faking his crappy play and I think he faked it pretty bad. There are some points to mention why it looked and felt so "staged" to me: - His macroplay was always good enough to effort his "stupid" meatgrinding, despite moves like the "main base switch" and high oversaturation in the earlygame. Floating money was also no big issue for him. - His unit production was not only constant enough to quickly fill up the losses, his supply even got bigger. And he got a pretty decent timed techlab on a rax in order to research exactly the 2 most important upgrades for his used unit comp. If you wanna pretend to be a silver hero, you need to "mess up" more with your build order itself and its timings. Something like 2 depots first. I think you can get away with that quite good, just because your opponent is most likely not the fastest. - His reaction to the medivac info does not fit to how quick he implemented and used them. How did he knew about their cargo ability and then immediately uses it on point to free 3 tanks at a time? Now, I´ve been told, not to think about strategy and stuff when playing, cause thinking while playing would loose me the game in most cases. That means to me, Nazar is either a genius (not so sure) or he knows quite a bit more about SC2 than he claims. -The overall unit control was too good. That first siege up? Heavy out of range to attack the spines but he defended both his flanks, while being close enough to cover a retreat. His defense seemed to be his weakness but even after 2 drops frome the same nydus, he barely had lost critical units or structures and he easy managed to also rebuild lost production asap. Maybe his main base switch had the intention of denying early workerloss to nydus drops in the 3rd. Btw, when the 2nd drop occured, he used his ramp to not get surrounded. He used scans for cleaning the lurkers or to get high ground vision. Btw, he never really complained about the lurkers, strange. And although he complained about not to have killed even a single ultra with his suicidal stim-a-moving, thats not the case. He killed the 1st Ultra in his main base with about 25 marines, 2 Marauders and 2 tanks by kiting and stutterstepping, almost like he knew exactly how to beat Ultras. He didnt even lost a single unit in that fight. But what is this, after it died, Nazar never even really tried to kite Ultralisks anymore for the rest of the game. And the reason is, he accidentally lost the focus to "play like a rage-noob", and the well trained autopilot reaction kicked in before he even noticed. And to cover that up, he just didnt do it anymore.
They exist because of conditioning. I bet that guy played one standard game to 5 cannon rushes and sub 40 apm sky toss and he just is not having fun anymore.
Although I'm not going to say he definitely isn't a troll, I have certainly played with people who have jumped straight into multiplayer in games without ever playing the single player or tutorial so have no idea what they doing and just assumed they would pick it up
Not all diamond players have over 100APM. My bro plays zerg and he’s a diamond player consistently has >100 apm - it’s just that most of his apm is effective so it’s not spamming.
I really love how terran players complaining about imbalance while showing off that terran in lower leagues is kind of imbalanced because they still nearly manage to win with having legitemately no f*ing clue of the game. Ok, I admit, I hate terran... just a little but yeah I hate them ;) But I love my little piggy and his salty salt mines. My favorite sc2 content by far. About the riddle of Nazar's MMR... Maybe it isnt the same person? Letting his brother play his/her account or tend to play wasted every once in a while?
