How Do Retail & Institutional Traders Differ? | Secrets of the Institutional Trader | Part 1

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In the first part of our 4 part presentation from Trevor Neil, he discusses how do retail and institutional traders differ. He shares the hard-hitting truths about what he's learnt in his career, and how to overcome these hurdles.
Trevor tells us why it's important to start small and why our trading experience, including losses, is vital to learning and improving as a trader. He discusses prop traders and their aggressive trading tactics with large amounts of capital, and why retail shouldn't follow the same methods.
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@Riggsnic_co Год назад

To my understanding this just proves how much we need an edge as investors because playing the market like everyone else just isn’t good enough. I've been quite unsure about investing in this current market and at the same time I feel it's the best time to get started on the market, what are your thoughts?

@hermanramos7092 Год назад

Since the crash, I've been in the red. I’m playing the long term game, so I'm not too worried but Jim Cramer mentioned there are still a lot of great opportunities, though stocks has been down a lot. I also heard news of a guy that made $250k from about $110k since the crash and I would really look to know how to go about this.

@martingiavarini Год назад

There are actually a lot of ways to make high yields in a crisis, but such trades are best done under the supervision of Financial advisor.

@Oly_laura Год назад

Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.

@hermanramos7092 Год назад

@@Oly_laura Impressive can you share more info?

@Oly_laura Год назад

@@hermanramos7092 My advisor is ‘’Catherine Morrison Evans’’ she’s highly qualified and experienced in the financial market. She has extensive knowledge of portfolio diversity and is considered an expert in the field. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market

@Raymondjohn2 Год назад

Recession is often the result of external factors, and it appears that the United States is losing its grip as a federal reserve currency. With a decreasing ability to control inflation and a reduction in stock and oil trading, it seems that a new multilateral world order is on the horizon

@bob.weaver72 Год назад

It's important to keep in mind that investing is a zero-sum game with both good and bad days. However, by spending and investing wisely and diversifying your holdings, you can minimise risks and maximise gains. Hiring a knowledgeable investment advisor with a wide range of options can help you achieve this and leave little room for regrets.

@martingiavarini Год назад

I personally worked with an investment advisor to diversify my $401k portfolio across multiple markets, resulting in over $980k in net profit from high dividend yielding stocks. With the right guidance, you too can make informed investment decisions and achieve your financial goals.

@bob.weaver72 Год назад

@@martingiavarini Would you mind recommending a specialist with a variety of investment options? This is extremely rare, and I eagerly await your response

@martingiavarini Год назад

She is Catherine Morrison Evans, my consultant. Since then, she has devoted section and leave attention to safeguards that I have been keeping an eye out for. You can locate information about the chief online, on the off chance that you're interested. I made no regrets about substantially adhering to their exchange strategy.

@bob.weaver72 Год назад

@@martingiavarini Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.

@georginsabu8102 3 года назад

7:40 you can either go to a public school or a state school to study. Start small, lose small, learn big, make big stay big, go bigger

@sportshighlights8708 3 года назад

So true it hurts.. I know we have all been there..

@ashishtiwari1912 Год назад

I have been doing Intraday Index trading from past 3 years and I stick to small position sizes. Although I don't make big money but I think being consistent while following proper risk management eventually would pay off in the long run. Trading in market definitely needs some good experience. It is not easy as many people believe it to be. I think for beginners it is always advisable to trade with experts. Join someone who does live trading session and trade with small quantities.

@shoobidyboop8634 Год назад

"People want to sit in your seat." THIS is life boiled down to its very essence.

@stringye8140 3 года назад

Really great insight and very relatable in these current times. Especially the understanding of what amount is really needed to be able to quit full time work and become sustainable during the good and the bad

@OptoThemes 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@DanielRamBeats 2 года назад

it's debatable.

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@blackseppuku Год назад

This is basically what my mentor told me when i started trading and what i experience.

@cleaneropinion111 Год назад

That's why we need old people as young rookie trading crypto. They know the truth and we learn that in a painful way sometimes.

@michaeldo489 3 месяца назад

I’ve been f by the market 100k loss multiple accounts blown. But learned lot lessons. Not giving up. Slowly making it back and improving. Going to be back stronger than ever.

@OptoThemes 3 года назад

Come join our live Q&A with Trevor tomorrow, December 2nd, 1-2pm GMT. Sign up here: www.cmcmarkets.com/en-gb/opto/webinars/rrg

@timclayton8214 Год назад

This advice is pure gold - thank you.

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

Thank you Tim

@cartoonseries3484 Год назад

He speak the truth about trading. It happen to me

@E23-q3t 2 года назад

Like your video! What do you think about these: 1. FX Liquidity does not matter whether it is from closing a long or short position, it can be taken by MM/banker/any trader to open as a long or short position. Is this statement true or false? Please advise with detailed educational advice. 2. Because FX is a zero sum game, if the liquidity is worth USD$10.01m it cannot be taken one cent more or less it must be digested exactly with the same amount by the MM/banker/any trader. Is this statement true or false?

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

I am not registered to work with retail clients and cannot advise you. Your first question requires a detailed answer. Your second point is not correct. FX is not a zero-sum game. Much is settled in cash as people actually want the currency and deliver against it. Massive FX traders are big corporates who have expenses in one currency and income in another. Think VW for example. Futures are a zero-sum game, less commissions.

@charlescarabott7692 2 года назад

Prop firms can help overcome the capital problem if one is good enough to pass their testing.

@lars5727 2 года назад

Its not

@MdNoor-kv3vo Год назад

Learning.

@przemysawbrodzik169 2 года назад

so my question is why retail trading scam is allowed by governments if everybody already knows they gonna loose all money?

@lars5727 2 года назад

True, im still figuring out how to become profitable as a retail trader..

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

If people want to try to earn money by in essence "gambling" on an outcome they deserve to lose their money.

@KaneshaKanjirathinga 26 дней назад

Thank you so much for this amazing video! I need some advice: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (air carpet target dish off jeans toilet sweet piano spoil fruit essay). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

@472BB 3 года назад

My Notes: - Learning comes by losing money - Do not put your entire savings account into your trading account; Only put small amount in (~10%) and then [honestly] see how long you can make that last without blowing it up... -> Practice good capital management and only put 10-20% of your account into each position. - After that 10% is gone, take another 10% and learn new mistakes from that small amount. Meanwhile you still have 80% of your original balance in your savings account to use later after you've learned some things.

@petermuhoho3780 3 года назад

Risking 10-20% is a lot of risk exposure. For one to survive longer you should risk 1-2 % per position.

@renks05 2 года назад

@@petermuhoho3780 It is okey to risk 0.25%-2% (3) of your capital for Forex.

@recession-rq8fd 2 года назад

I guess I'm not a trader. I have investments and I mostly just collect premiums. Just my preference I guess

@n_9455 2 года назад

You’re advising people how to fail here… anyone new to trading shouldn’t be risking more than 1% of their account. 100 losses in a row it would take to get your account blown. It’s the learning stage it’s not about profit… 10% risk per trade will get a beginners account blown in no time. People are out here following this idea, no wonder it takes 3+ accounts before they finally find a profitable strategy 😂😂

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

93% of retail day traders lose their money therefore there are 93% of broke learned individuals

@adddad9779 3 года назад

Sh!t!!!! I'm trading a $500 Forex account and just pre-ordered my Ferrari...

@amitjadhav6775 3 года назад

Chuyiya

@Ikigaitrading 3 года назад

Loll

@petermuhoho3780 3 года назад

😁😂😃

@kimoralee9581 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

Me too.

@armstrongwood5572 4 года назад

In other to keep making consistent profit in forex trading all depends on the capacity of the trader

@strictlyyoutube6881 Год назад

He is only right if you use leverage.

@bauch16 Год назад

This guy clearly doesn't know crypto im makin 50% every 3-5 days😂 gonna retired when i hit 50mil

@amitjadhav6775 3 года назад

Whatwver u say is gold

@NDWMONEY 2 года назад

Utter rubbish.....trading is all about percentages, so it doesn't matter the size of your account, so long as you have a profitable system and you don't draw from it, you will be rich one day.

@AmaanKhan-wo1ww 2 года назад

When you're trading with large capital , their is the problem of liquidity and you will stuck even with the best profitable system. So, position size matters.

@hellomiami4012 2 года назад

@@AmaanKhan-wo1ww trade a liquid market. Solved.

@NDWMONEY 2 года назад

I too trade with size, but I choose to trade very liquid stocks ( S&P100 ), so entry and exit is never a problem.

@fuethao8154 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Tapnd123 Год назад

Forex good for Asian countries.

@pencilcheck Год назад

a bunch of words, no substance, feels like he is just saying the most basic things anyone can just find online googling though. but if this is part 1 and just intro then makes sense it is such entry level information

@gogi9285 3 года назад

Awesome

@OptoThemes 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@gogi9285 3 года назад

@@OptoThemes it's my pleasure

@shoobidyboop8634 Год назад

"You can win $500, lose $100, win $300, lose $150" after which I'd be like EVERYTHING ON RED!!!

@luckieramos9001 6 месяцев назад

This dude is 100 percent completely wrong.. He is teaching people to be emotional and reactionary to the market.. When in reality you need a trade system that removes your emotions away.. Few understand this.. But those of us that do🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

@PoloABD Год назад

Remain skeptical.

@l.m.2739 4 года назад

Wowwwwww. Just wow

@OptoThemes 4 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@xkxws Год назад

Always go with %2 maximum loss from a trade no matter with how much money you trade. You can be a trader in any point you want. It's not matter of money, it's a matter of time, keep learning and trading with what you know. There is no magical formula, knowledge and experience will get you there like in any other job.

@bukanergogo8897 Год назад

0.5% with 2 you make 10 losses in arrow you down 20%....

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

There is a "magical formula" which you are not told. Trade against the "retail" traders (those 93% WHO LOSE) and follow the trades of the institutional traders.

@ObsidianFutures Год назад

I'll save you guys from watchin the 4 parts. Institutions have money to burn where as retail traders don't have that opportunity, they can lose $1 million and its nothing for them. A simple "oh well that didn't work". Develop a truly winning strategy that has positive expected edge and once you do implement that into real trades.

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

They have money to "burn" because we, the tax payers, bail them out when things go pear shaped.

@landlord5552 2 года назад

Hopefully nobody are so ignorant to quit job directly. I think normally people learn trading step by step and if it is working out well, only then meaby quit day job.

@jaydengiggs.rainititanatgm9389 2 года назад

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@jaydengiggs.rainititanatgm9389 2 года назад

His mail address is after my username okay reach out to him for help he will guide you

@deepakkhaire8436 2 года назад

You cannot learn trading while still working a job, people think it's a soft skill it ain't there's a ocean worth to learn you can't do shit part time it is the most demanding and rewarding career

@god-la-7wins-verdad-942 3 года назад

F this math equation about “the little guy” lmao I’ll watch it just so I can find the gem…

@sdotyes Год назад

Trader=traitor

@T-Dog_nation 3 года назад

Wow. So many words to say absolutely nothing.

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

a bit like my grandad

@mrmatias2618 Год назад

🇦🇴

@bobby6322 4 месяца назад

This video was a waste of my precious time. "Institutional traders have a lot of money" Oh really? How did you find that out. Tell us about what information they have access to, What indicators they use , technical stuff. Feel sorry for people who went to this seminar.

@tapasyak429 10 месяцев назад

Who slapped him?

@bob13513 2 года назад

Irrelevant title

@sawyersweetman891 Год назад

Wtf was that lol

@videobzz4647 3 года назад

booomer

@illuminated2438 2 года назад

Poor people detected! 🤣

@IDrinkAndIKnowThings 2 года назад

All B.S....be smaRTER THAN THE MARKETS. Put every odd in your favor with an edge and you can make 200% easily. We don't move markets. We ride waves. When you have millions you can move the market. That's when you are targeted.

@theouts1der 2 года назад

yeah ok

@god-la-7wins-verdad-942 3 года назад

Wow, whole new level of insight and thinking 😂😮🛡🗡vs 🪓🔧📊📉📈

@BhimChawhan Год назад

(M ai )all checkboxes tick and the secret is practise proportion(lot of viewrs wont pay attention to it but its a VVIP thing) --1-20524

@khadijasajid457 9 месяцев назад

Investing in a Roth IRA is a tax-smart move for a secure retirement. Its benefits, coupled with strategic investing, create a solid financial foundation. Partnering with a skilled adviser ensures informed decisions, optimizing gains, and navigating the investment landscape with confidence. Secure your financial future wisely! 💼💰

@tahirisaid2693 9 месяцев назад

I'm exploring different investment opportunities and would appreciate others' insights on this matter.

@gyaneshmkhanolkar2270 2 года назад

Trade small to build your intuitive capabilities on the markets - it takes time with trading real money to build this. That's how I'd sum this wonderful session. Everyone should watch this, before they jump in on their first trade.

@hakshustletv Год назад

Definitely😂Trading on a demo and trading live are two completely different things and trading for someone else and trading for yourself is generally very different, if you try to go big right away, you're most likely going to lose your money. Start small, get comfortable and then slowly size up as you become more profitable and your account grows.

@thelisajourney Год назад

I appreciate this video because it rings true in so many areas. Definitely better than the "buy my course and you could be rich too" stuff. This guy is like you're probably not going to get rich, you might lose all of your money, you might have to wait through months of loses to get that big WIN, the institutions have much more money than you and it is replenished if lost, but hey good luck to you. "Learning in this business is to lose money" - he is not lying!

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

I do not do courses or sell anything for retail traders. I only work with institutions. I can assure you, that they do not care about your positions or stops. to imagine it is so is just making an excuse.

@penaareia7386 3 года назад

Amazing.. just amazing!! Congrats!!!! Cheers from Brazil.

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@cristianmicu 2 года назад

i think my capital is less than what people in this hall paid o get a ticket to attend this presentation

@tristan583 3 года назад

You dont need to lose fortune to make it also you dont need that much money , it's about what you have learn and what you know about trading , you can turn $1000 into $1000000 , his approach isnt cool for a regular retail trader who doesnt have a lot of money also he doesn't mention the important ot strategy, strategy is the center piece of a successful trading career, not how much you can begin with .

@jordan.belfort2161 3 года назад

Strategy is not the central point of a successful trading career... It's important but to develop a traders mindset is key... It's true about the capital... You don't need large amounts to make money... If you are an investor, then yes you need larger capital... But as retail traders you can double accounts in short time with good setups...

@andib2022 2 года назад

load of bollocks

@chexterkat 2 месяца назад

Your math isn’t mathing lmao.. you could average a 1% return daily with a bag of 35k and make 100,000$…… LOL

@marshkid1 Месяц назад

If you can't follow your rules and trade profitably on simulator, you can't do it with real capital.

@JaceGlenn-x7w Год назад

thankyou universe for prop firms

@GJYT23 16 дней назад

Propfirms have solved the issue of capital

@siphomlambo9534 Год назад

wow, what a clear explanation the best that I have heard!!!

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@sahil-dh1co 7 месяцев назад

who slapped him in the face

@georginsabu8102 3 года назад

weird camera movement 9:11

@tristan583 3 года назад

He must be thinking it's a movie 😂

@hellomiami4012 2 года назад

*Cameraman Scratches Arse

@vsatrader 10 месяцев назад

The main difference between paper, and retail, is that 1.Paper hedge their trades, the retail do not. The Paper use correlations, the retail do not. I hedge all my trades, and I only use correlations, DOM, and level 2. This how we survive and retail do not. I never use charts. The reason that the markets exist is to allow buyers and sellers to transact. As liquidity providers, we laugh at chart traders

@TheWolf-ws5dj Год назад

Sorry Sir but "most likely" and "very certain " are not 100% - I'm most likely an idiot but I'm not ... how does this sound?

@jameslennon947 Год назад

listen to him.......he did use to be a broker haha

@omarsabry7646 Год назад

Good point

@stevenhull5025 11 месяцев назад

a broker who is now broke as he needs to conduct these type of speeches to now earn his daily crust.

@normantingee 2 года назад

excellent sharing opto cmc

@yungdoji5235 Год назад

I’m tired of all these older people that are full of crap if you actually understand it you can flip $20 with an offshore broker I do it all day just don’t upload videos or sell anything cause I don’t need too hahahahah

@fuethao8154 Год назад

yeah stick to your garbage smc 🤣

@Aboriginal_Alien Год назад

He keeps saying, “it’s a big boys game” I assume he is speaking in metaphor and doesn’t mean that only males of large size can trade but he never explains exactly what he is talking about.

@TrevorNeil 11 месяцев назад

Of course. Big Boy = institutional trader of any sex or weight. Sorry, I had to explain.