As someone who grew up in the Northeast, even the two states with Republican governors are fairly moderate and downright left-leaning when you compare them to what passes as "conservative' in the South. Two entirely different trains of thought.
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Massachusetts has a republican governor but goes democrat in almost literally everything else. and it regularly ranks as one of the most liberal/progressive states (sometimes ranking first depending on criteria).
@@MultiKswift I've usually chalked up the (R) governorship to the fact there's still a big working class consciousness in the NE. Most traditional conservatives still value public education & are only as right as the state is progressive. They'll make a show of balancing budgets, but not much else.
@@UniquelyUnseen I've heard some people explain it that we want someone of the opposite party in place to act as a check/balance when we are overwhelmingly on one side of the political isle. I've heard other people explain it that New England republicanism is very different from national republicanism. And so we will never vote for a republican in a national election (president, representives, or senators) but will when they are working within Massachusetts. I think it's hard to pinpoint exactly but is probably influenced by multiple things.
Big mistake on the cost of living: "the cost of living is over 100, which I think means on average it takes more to live than you can earn every month". No, the cost of living in the US is set to 100, and then the cost of living in each state is calculated based on that. So for example, CA's 140 means that it is 40% more expensive to live in CA than the US average, and TX's 90 means that TX is 10% cheaper than average. Also, the cost of living index does NOT take income into account, so it may be worth it to live in a state that is 40% more expensive if the average income is 50% higher, for example.
As an Arizonan who's spent time in Nevada, I joke how it's almost California's little colony. So much is influenced by CA, especially in Northern Nevada.
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Having lived on both coasts and in the south, I would say the more polarizing video would be the North and South. You touched on it a bit but there are a lot of differences. To me the south almost feels like a different country (I've lived in Europe and Asia as well).
I've lived in Northern Virginia all my life but have family in Lynchburg. Someone call Virginia the South and it definitely is in cities like I mentioned but Northern Virginia is like a different world compared to the rest of the state. It feels like I'm in a different country when I go to some cities in rural Virginia
When you say south and North what part exactly? One thing that party drew to this video is that South is actually split, if look at populations, growth, demographics, history the South Atlantic states of VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL are as much different from AL, TN, MS, AR, KY, and LA "TX and OK too but that's a different story" as the Northeast is from the Midwest........ the 3 states of GA, NC, SC together is 26 mil that more people than AL, MS, TN, AR, LA and KY combine. Then when you factor in Florida's 20 mil it becomes a pattern. NC to FL alone is 47 million people in area barely bigger than Cali but 8 million people more. The South Atlantic states are way more cosmopolitan and faster pace then the interior South.
As a middle class Southern California native, whenever I visit New York I'm shocked at how expensive things are in NY. And I also hear this from my friends in NY that used to live in CA. It's funny because majority of America thinks CA is THE most expensive place. Average cost of food, dining out, rent, car insurance & health insurance are more expensive in NY than CA.
@@xxgoodnevil17xx yes that is probably the largest part for food. Most vegetables in store are from California. There’s an awesome Indian restaurant here and the gentleman says he imports all his spices from India. Raises the cost for sure.
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Personally I'd define the East and West coasts based off of geography and watersheds (east of the Appalachians and west of the Cascades, Sierra Nevada, etc.) but it would be a lot harder to get numbers for everything that way.
Honestly If Vermont and Pennsylvania were to be included for the East Coast, you could have atleast given the West Coast a state like Nevada, Idaho, Arizona or even Alaska or Hawaii
@@rolando7660 Las Vegas is too far from the coast to be considered "West Coast" and feels more Desert Southwest. Although you could argue the Las Vegas could be an extension of SoCal
As a European (Italian) if I had to live in the US, instead than East or West coast, I'd pick Colorado. The only (big) limit is the absence of any sea. But I love the mountains, so it's good for me! ;-)
Wanted to add this as a pennsylvanian, we do actually kinda have a cost, Philadelphia is at the mouth of the Delaware River which connects directly to the ocean.
Good video. I would have gone into the geography a little more and mentioned how the east coast is a coastal plain whereas the west coast is a coastal mountain range. This has caused the metro areas on the west coast to be much more isolated from one another, unlike the east coast which is largely one continuous city almost. The only place on the west coast that comes close to this is the area from Los Angeles to San Diego but even in this case, there is a break due to Camp Pendleton.
This is a man who knows cali! I've done that drive past Pendelton hundreds of times. Beautiful area. My dad used to work at the plant before back in the 90s. I live further up the coast in Oregon now, and you are right about the scarcity of connecting cities. Once you leave north LA on the 5, its farmlands and nature, with towns interspersed. Near Frisco and Sacramento it gets a bit dense again, but after that its nature all around. Love it.
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Coming from a west coast background (western Washington) in terms of political stance and lifestyles and attitudes there is a lot to say about geography, in particular people west or east of the Cascade mountain range, and I'd dare say the Sierra Nevada range as you go south through California. West of the mountains has billions of tall trees and, at least in Washington, gets a lot more rain which makes it lush and green, and the natural environment (despite the rain) encourages a lot of outdoor activity. It also results in a lot of environmentalism (tree huggers and hippies). I grew up camping in the woods and beach combing, mountain biking, trail hiking, skiing, etc. with a lot of reverence for nature. But... drive over the mountains to eastern Washington and it changes dramatically, like being in almost a different country. Camping, for example, on the west is done with quiet respect for nature nestled in the trees with small campfires in designated fire pits and the main sound is tent zippers and hammering of tent pegs in the ground. But on the east side it's loud boisterous bbq partying and car stereos and families bickering loudly. And of course western Washington generally votes blue and east votes red. If you wore a MAGA hat in a west side campground you'd get some unpleasant stares. If you wore a Joe Biden t-shirt on the east side you'd probably have beer cans thrown at your head. Just saying sometimes it just as much different one or another side of a regional geographical division as it is between West and East coast USA. I'll bet if I went tent camping in New Hampshire it would almost feel like "home".
New Hampshire is the most confusing state politically to the point I'd say it's the only state in the country that could be defined as independent. New Hampshire also gets waaayyy more snow than Washington State especially western Washington unless you live up on the cascade mountains of Washington, which little to nobody does. I love Washington state though because of its climate and diverse landscape, just wish it wasn't so damn cloudy, expensive, and full of homeless in western Washington. I like the Bellingham area and smaller towns like Lynden up by the Canadian border a lot. Not full of traffic like Seattle metro.
I have lived on both coasts. The weathered is better on the west coast, but I prefer living on the east coast. Schools are generally better, and everything is close by. Transportation infrastructure is superior in the east. Beaches are better in the east and we have more cultural attractions. I left California 23 years ago, would never move back. The northeast megalopolis has provided me with a great quality of life. The population on the west coast is rather transient while the population on the east coast tends to stay put.
i agree with most of what you said there. i still prefer living in the west coast mainly because i live in a very developed area. its near a top 100 school in the country, the architecture is arguably better than even the northeast metropolitan area, we got Hollywood a few hours down south, homes are generally bigger (but also very expensive like new york), and i have had a lot more job opportunities that when i lived in new york. i did notice there is a lot more diversity in my area than my experience in the east.
I'm about to do my fourth and almost certainly final flip-flop - back to New England. After 18 years in California the ONLY thing sadly left that is compelling about it is the weather. Can't believe I'm headed back to the winters again, but the people and the culture ultimately make it worth it. Oh, and in NH I can actually a nice little house on a beautiful piece of land to call my own, while still being fairly close to Boston. Really looking forward to it.
@@polylight I thought the weather would be a drag in the east, but I have grown to genuinely love the seasons, more now than when I wasa kid. If you are bummed our about shoveling snow, by a condo instead of a house. California has nice weather, but my quality of life overall is so much better. I live in NYC. At least the rain washes the smell of pee away. San Francisco had turned into a beautiful toilet by the time I left, and i lived in a good neighborhood. I'd moved to the burbs the last couple of years I was there. What I learned is the suburbs are boring and mostly the same, no matter where you live. Autumn in New York is my favorite time, but I like the snow too.
If you love the cold and snow - like I do - the Northeast is the place to be. I love the four seasons. It really impacts day-to-day living and each season has its own kind of mood or vibe. Nice to have the change-up.
There’s no better place to live in the country than in California Central Coast , with my avocado farm and going once a month to Burbank just for business
On another regional divide, as a lifelong resident of Northern Virginia, it's like a totally different world here compared to the rest of the state and it's crazy that some people call Virginia the South but it definitely is once you get outside of the DC suburbs
State lines are a terrible way to define regions. Virginia, New York, Texas, etc. Are all in multiple regions but are just put into the one that is historically more accurate
Although a native Texan, I have lived in all geographical regions of the U.S. and even abroad. I currently live in Northern Virginia (NOVA). This region of VA is basically comprised of DC suburbs. Although there are people here from all over, I tend to encounter A LOT of transplanted Northeasterners.
Awesome, GK! As a US-friendly Swede, I learned A LOT from this one - and other of your focused vids! Keep up your excellent work: Cheers from derelict Gothenburg!
Isn't Gothenburg pretty conservative in terms of Swedish politics? My Swedish political understanding is not that great but I love your country. Cheers from the USA
Jag alskar talar svenska. Jag talar inte svenska god. I only started learning it recently so i can't write or speak much, I would write this in swedish if i could, but it's a nice language.
I think that the Southeast should be considered as a different region from the rest of the East Coast, and I would add all of the Gulf Coast to the Southeast.
I grew up on the east coast and so did my peers and I only saw the LA area once as a little kid back in 09z It was nice to see the Pacific and the palm trees out there.
Very cool analysis! I think I would have included more states that are culturaly west like Nevada and Arizona to make the comparison a little more even like how you said that you included Vermont and Pennsylvania despite them not having coastal acess which I never considered that those states were land locked and not technically part of the coast but you were right to include them because they culturally are likewise I think it makes sense that you excluded Alaska and Hawaii even though they could be considered west coast geographicaly but they aren't culturally and I imagine they would have messed up the calculations with Alaska being so big but so little population and Hawaii being so unique as well.
I feel nevada and most certainly Arizona are a different type of state. Arizona is more similar to New Mexico and Texas, the south west. Nevada is somewhere in the middle between the southwest and west coast.
@HomerOJSimpson Arizona is definitely different from California in some ways, for example the gun culture in Arizona is much more permissive. There are a decent amount of people in Phoenix who carry handguns in their cars for protection. Not so much in Los Angeles. Gun laws in Arizona are much more like New Mexico and Texas than California as well.
@@john3_14-17 so cal is part of the south west and a lot of the similarities have to do with environment and temps (semi arid to desert) and Mexican influences but they are also very different in others
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I think it would be interesting to compare west coast to northeast coast… like Virginia and north. I feel like the Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida are just straight up in a different region than what I consider the “East Coast”
@@reelfishing47 VIRGINIA IS STILL THE EAST COAST IS APART OF THE FIRST 13 colonies which makes the east coast from Maine to Florida is the EAST COAST it’s in the EASTERN STANDARD TIMEZONE AND TOUCHES THE ATLANTIC OCEAN in colonial days it was called the mid colony
The west coast is not just less populated because it was explored later, it is much less inhabitable because it’s covered in large deserts and the tallest mountains in the continental US.
I think various factors including the lack of water and distance from Europe played a large role in the East becoming more populated than the west. (Granted the west recieved a large volume of immigrants from Asia, also due to relative proximity) Now the journey from NYC to LA is a comfy plane ride or a long but easy drive. In the early days the journey was much less safe. (Ever play Oregon Trail, its the original Dark Souls)
You you can do the Netherlands north and south. I love in the south but we are a lot more social, hospitable and direct in communication. The more north you go the more “stiff” people will become. Belgium also has south and north separation between French and Belgium speaking people. There are lot of countries you can do this for
To clarify the map @7:59, it actually showed which non-Caucasian ethnic group was MOST overrepresented in that county--and only relative to that group's *national* population proportion. East Asian and Pacific Islander Americans are, in fact, much more highly concentrated on the West Coast than on the East Coast, largely due to geographic proximity, but it's that Latinos are even more highly concentrated in some of the same counties on the West Coast. Some of the counties on the East Coast indicated as having Asians as their most highly overrepresented minority are, like, just really, really white and happen to have a slightly higher-than-average proportion of Asian Americans (esp Desi/South Asian Americans). For instance, Morris County, NJ, where I grew up.
I was about to point that out. I'm first generation American-born, my parents being from Guatemala and El Salvador. I was raised in Las Vegas and have been to California countless times, where I have family. After Latinos (mostly Mexicans but also Salvadorans, Cubans, etc), there are TONS of Asians, mostly Filipinos, Chinese and Vietnamese/Koreans. California and Vegas have more Asians than Black Americans. Growing up, my friends had parents from Mexico, Philippines, China, Cuba, El Salvador, Honduras, Vietnam, Ethiopia and Eastern Europe. That's Vegas immigrant makeup for the most part
You can't really compare just east vs west. It's Pacific Northwest & California vs The Northeast, the Southeast, & Florida. It's interesting to see the the cultural delineations are almost perfectly matched up with the climate groups
Great video ... Nice job including PA, cause Philadelphia is just a short ride up the Delaware River, so it's still connected to the Atlantic Ocean, with ports similar in size to Baltimore, Boston, Portland and Seattle.
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At about 7:30, Cost of Living, 100 is the average. If you were 130, that would mean it is 30% higher than the average cost of living. And Cost of Living is generally food, shelter, transportation, energy, clothing, healthcare, childcare.
California was NOT settled first. New Mexico and arizona have European immigrant populations and cities dating back to the 17th century, and the city of Santa Fe was founded the same year as Jamestown. The whole area was settled at almost exactly the same time as Virginia and Massachusetts. I think the older narrative was originally skewed because California and the southwest became part of the United States after the end if the US/Mexican war in 1848, and the California gold rush began a year later. New Mexico and Arizona became states in the first few years of the 20th century. I have been to both Colonial Williamsburg and Jamestown, the first Atlantic European settlement, twice for several days each time, and to Santa Fe several times as I grew up in El Paso, Texas, which is part of New Mexico culturalktpy and most other ways. They are both very worth visiting. Personally, though, I find Santa Fe much better. if you have been to both, and prefer Jamestown/Williamsburg, feel free to disagree. ;)
That may *technically* be true, but the Spanish and the Mexicans had a joke of an investment/development plan for their colonies/territories. Most of the actual settlement and development came *after* the Americans plowed the Rancho/Mission system underfoot.
Dude he said California was the first one to be settled out of the west coast states being compared. He explicitly said he'd leave Arizona and New Mexico out of it 😂
Bring able to travel across country 11 times as well as, driving up I-5 & I-95, would move back to Washington State in a heart beat. There are very few states where you can travel inside its borders and experience all regions of the US.
@@mikedaniel1771 there is public transit up and down the east coast. I live in Baltimore and you can take the train to dc or all the way up to Boston. The commuter trains between DC and Baltimore run every 20 minutes. I believe it goes further south as well. DC and New York have subway systems. Baltimore also has a small subway rail and a bus system. There are also buses that go to New York. I can take the bus from my house, to the train, take it to dc, then jump on the subway to my destination. Same when I go to New York. If the west coast doesn’t have that, that would be a great reason to compare.
@@mikedaniel1771 okay well that’s something to talk about and compare, isn’t it. Of course you’re not going to have public transit in rural areas. I don’t think any country does.
Great video. However many cities on the east coast date back further than the 18th century. I’m from Maryland and my town was built in the mid 1600s some others much earlier.
Actually, you should consider Navy and Air Force Recruitment as well as civilian employment with the military. Not sure about Cali, but Washington has Island County and Bremerton two areas without high enlistment but which rely on the military for their GDP. Bremerton acts as a repair base for the pacific fleet and Island county is entirely dependent on Airforce and naval bases for employment.
Similar scenario in lots of parts in California. I’m from San Diego and the navy and marines basically built this city out and there are other small city’s whether in San Bernardino or Monterrey where a military logistics hub or base is located that anchors the entire city.
This would be interesting to do regarding the home nations/constituent countries of the UK. But given the population imbalance with England having so many people it would make sense to divided England into London, and then northeast, northwest, southeast and southwest. Which the UK often does to make comparisons more understandable.
The NEW ENGLAND and the RUSTBELT state's are the best In the country. I'm grew up and down the eastcoast but most of my life I've been a Pennsylvanian lived mostly between urban Bethlehem and rural bangor townships of the greater lehigh valley. As well as most of summer's and every hunting season in WARREN/SHEFFIELD townships around the ALLEGHENY national forest.
@@robw1571 Well then technically, Colorado, Utah, Nevada and Arizona should have been included since the Colorado River runs through all of them and ends at the Pacific Ocean 🥴
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With the military forces, it would’ve good to focus on National Guard. Sure they are part of the general armed forces of the USA, but each is state-based and the governor of each state is the Commander in Chief for each. Of course, population would impact the size of each National Guard, but it would’ve been good to see that.
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As an Oregonian though, Washington is the overall better state without taking into account landscape and natural beauty. That Is where there is a toss up imo.
You mentioned that the East Coast was settled earlier but the first humun beings entering the Americas did so via the land bridge between Asia and the Americas, i.e. West Coast.
The real divide is urban and rural. There are still plenty of people on/near the coasts that are more similar to Wyoming politically than they are to New York or LA.
Hispanics might be dominant in the West. But soon as i was almost finished my drive from California Los Angeles region to North Carolina Charlotte region, I came across a Hispanic grocery. So although their population is smaller, they are very present. Black presence could only be seen in Cities out west except for El Paso. Than I came into Fort Worth and Dallas and there was really where Blacks were significant. Did not see many Hispanics in Little Rock (B/W) or Memphis. Memphis is the Black town, while Nashville is a white town. I saw one black guy in Knoxville. Blacks are more significant in Charlotte and Fayetteville were I'm at.
Their history and culture are very distinct from those of the 3 states he mentioned, while they may litterally be on the West Coast geographically they aren't part of the cultural region. (Like how New Mexico isn't part of "the south" or Montana not being part of "the north" because those regions were named when the east coast was all that mattered)
Do a video on coastal nations that lack coastal cities Also do a video on nations that have the highest percentage of their citizens on the borderlines.
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This is off topic but you should make a video’s discussing Micro nations, like Sealand or Molossia. “Countries” that claim to be independent nations but aren’t recognized by any nation.
Better than you'd think. The only real culture shock between American cultures is between the liberal coasts and the more conservative and rural interior. Especially considering the interior deep south that most of the rest of us would rather not be associated with.
East coast and north west coast are very similar in terms of progressive values. Very different personalities though with northeast being a bit rougher and west coast more laid back. South east is just part of the south and nearly the complete opposite of the esta coast and north east. Everything in between is mostly conservative except liberal Illinois and moderate Wisconsin and Minnesota and maybe Michigan.
I currently live in the west coast (CA), east coast (MD) and midwest (MI). I bounce back and forth between these 3 states because of work and I'm originally from CA. I spend most of my time in the midwest. Whenever I go to east coast as a Californian native, I see some differences but there's also a lot of similarities. But midwest is completely different. It's not like east or west. Midwest people seem to be both conservative and liberal at the same time. Or maybe neither conservative or liberal. As a west coast native I wouldn't mind living in the east coast (northeast region) but I don't think I could permanently live in the midwest or south.
I'm from Baltimore Maryland and yeah! Don't hate the west coast Los Angeles California people and gangsta rap of powerhouse experience classic entertainment around the world. Yeah! I love it. But i don't hate like ny do!
Why are people being so dramatic in the comment section comparing the North East to the South East? It isn't two different countries at all. I lived in New Jersey for over 13 years, and I'm currently living in South Carolina, and many things are similar. People aren't that different, and no one is racist. It amazes me that people who go on vacation to Miami are able to talk about parts of America that they've never even seen.
Why do you include Vermont and Pennsylvania for the east coast but not Alaska and Hawaii for the west coast? I always include Alaska and Hawaii for the west and never Vermont and Pennsylvania for the east. I'm sorry but I sharply disagree with you
After being in California for three weeks, I appreciate North Carolina more. But California does have nicer things. Just the whole accessibility thing bothers me!
