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How do we Define Rare Vintage Baseball Cards in The Hobby? Response to  

Sammy Thunder
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I watched Rick's video about rarity and it definitely peaked my interest about how I look at rare vintage baseball cards. I thought that he brought up some great points about rare vintage baseball cards and what is considered "rare."
I agree that research can be done to further investigate rarity in the hobby outside of pop reports. However, it would take a lot more effort and some inquiries to dig deep into some raw rare vintage baseball cards. There definitely is a fine line!
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@warrendinCLE
@warrendinCLE 8 дней назад
Thanks Sammy! I enjoyed hearing your thoughts and of course Rusty Kuntz!🤣
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
It felt like the right thing to do
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason 9 дней назад
Seriously Rusty Kuntz! I was actually laughing out loud! Well done my friend!
@BringingTheHeat-VBC
@BringingTheHeat-VBC 8 дней назад
I went to school with a guy named Rusty Mintz. He had younger sister named Patty and an older brother named Pepper. (Seriously)😆
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason
@EverydayCardCollector-Jason 8 дней назад
@@BringingTheHeat-VBC that is awesome!
@billyballgamesportscards
@billyballgamesportscards 8 дней назад
Great points, Sammy and great Mays cards!
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thanks Billy
@Redneckclector
@Redneckclector 8 дней назад
Good insights on the topic. Thanks for sharing.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thank you!
@WarriorKidd06
@WarriorKidd06 8 дней назад
That Stahl Meyer Mays is a beautiful card.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thank you!
@RipFan8
@RipFan8 6 дней назад
Hi Sammy,good stuff my friend.
@SouthernCollector14
@SouthernCollector14 7 дней назад
Great video Sammy! You made some great points. Both of those Mays would be considered rare in my opinion
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thanks Tony
@4softcorners728
@4softcorners728 8 дней назад
“Let’s talk about Rusty Kuntz” is not where I saw this video going! Haha Nice example though. I always love seeing those awesome , rare cards you showed. That Coke Tips Test is such an amazing card
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
I thought people would appreciate a little Rusty Kuntz!
@stuke1976
@stuke1976 8 дней назад
Great response Sammy!
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thanks Scott
@s.macintosh-jc9rf
@s.macintosh-jc9rf 8 дней назад
Hi Sammy, Great session! I really enjoy learning other points of view. Have a great rest of the week. Peter
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
Thanks Peter!
@CleanCheapShots
@CleanCheapShots 7 дней назад
One thing I was chasing with a buddy 20 years ago were cards from the 80s that had very low pop counts in 9s and 10s. I think there are some of those cards that are rare because of their centering issues. I agree that Rusty isn't a rare card, but is it and will it be in a PSA 10? Hard to tell with that card I guess. 1979 PSA 10 Ozzie Smith might be considered a rare card. Anyway, it was kind of fun to chase a Marc Hill (1979) and a few others back in the day in a high grade.
@WarriorKidd06
@WarriorKidd06 8 дней назад
My 57 Swift Meats Jim Gilliam and my 1960 Topps Tattoo Jim Gilliam would be the more rare cards of his that I have in my collection. On a rarity scale 1-10 with 10 being the rarest, 57 would be a 8 or 9, the 60 Tattoo would probably be in the middle. Those cards that are seen as novelty stuff and regional only releases to the area they played in, that’s the hard stuff to find. My Tattoo is raw but I’ve never seen a Swift Meats raw of his or any other player.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
The Swift Meats are tough!
@CFarmerPhoto
@CFarmerPhoto 8 дней назад
Now i need to get a rusty kuntz card. Thanks Sammy!
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
You don’t have to. Just say no
@vintageoddballcards6103
@vintageoddballcards6103 8 дней назад
Enjoyed the video! Yes! Not all low pop graded cards are rare. Now on the rarity scale for me the 54 stahl Meyer mays would be on a scale of 1-10 1 being the rarest a 5 or 6. His 53 Briggs meat could be a 4. Your playing tips I bet is closer to a 5. Has a pop like the Briggs meat but I’m sure because of the odd size the pop is closer to the stahl Meyer than the Briggs Just thinking out loud
@vintageoddballcards6103
@vintageoddballcards6103 8 дней назад
Now how rare can the stahl Meyer be if I can name 5 people I know have that card including myself lol
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
@@vintageoddballcards6103 I can't agree with your rating. The Stahl Meyers are tough to find and the Coca Cola Test Tips are just as challenging, if not more challenging than the Stahl Meyers. I think the best way to determine this is if we were able to discover how many raw ones exist. I'm sure they do, but when they come to market, they're usually in auctions. When they're presented in auctions, they are normally graded first. Given that they are typically graded, this all goes back to how many graded copies exist. According to GemRate, the 54 Stahl Meyers have a total of 36 graded between SGC and PSA. The Coca Cola Mays has a total of 30 graded between SGC and PSA. Going back to your second comment about naming 5 people that have one, we are a part of a niche market of collectors, but that market is not small by any stretch. We are serious Mays collectors and as such, it's expected that we'd be seeking out some of the more unique Mays pieces. It's not a surprise you can name 5 people that have one, but there are a TON of Mays collectors that would love to have one in their collection. Ultimately, our outlook on what is rare is different and that's cool. I think the Coca Cola Mays and Stahl Meyer are a lot lower in the rare scale, IMO.
@vintageoddballcards6103
@vintageoddballcards6103 8 дней назад
@@SammyThunder that’s why you have a scale. Sets like 1903 breisch Williams 1904 Allegheny 1924 Diaz cig are much rarer I can come up 30 sets that are rarer. How somebody determines what’s rarity is up to each individual. I tend to be more strict.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
@@vintageoddballcards6103 I don't disagree with that. I think we look at rarity differently. There are a lot of variables that go into this, no doubt.
@RL3sports
@RL3sports 8 дней назад
I have a question. Noone seems to want to answer. If there is rare, scarce and common vintage. Where abouts is the line between common and scarce.
@ACollectorsDream
@ACollectorsDream 8 дней назад
Cmon Sammy. We know what is truly rare. If Mangini says it’s rare, it is.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
Ah yes. I forgot!
@LegendsNeverDieCollection
@LegendsNeverDieCollection 8 дней назад
Oh, Hobby Terms. Often used, often misused, and half of us use them differently. Better than not having any slang at all though, right? 🤪
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Yes sir!
@jimfalkler9361
@jimfalkler9361 8 дней назад
Hi Sammy, just because the card has a low pop count does not make it rare. Your Mays cards are awesome.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 7 дней назад
Thanks Jim
@yankeesandgiants1886
@yankeesandgiants1886 8 дней назад
Rusty Koooontz- (like in moon)is how he pronounces his name. :)
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 8 дней назад
Well, I guess there isn't a gynecology joke there. 🥲
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
Forgive me, my accent is strong!
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 8 дней назад
Rusty Kuntz? Never heard of her. There's a gynecology joke in there, somewhere.
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
I'll leave that to you to find it.
@theathletearchives
@theathletearchives 8 дней назад
Rare to me means I can't just go on ebay and find it. And dude, it's pronounced Koontz 😅
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
Yeah, I know. I was being cheeky.
@SlipKid1975
@SlipKid1975 8 дней назад
Its pronounced Koonts NOT Kunts 😂
@SammyThunder
@SammyThunder 8 дней назад
Whatever gets you to laugh
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