How Do We Handle FALLEN LEADERS? | Radical Radio w/Robby Dawkins 

As someone who grew up in IHOP community since it’s conception and my own family spent 13 years in Forerunner church until only recently, I think many are missing what God is doing, He is cleansing His church, judgment starts in His house. Anyone who lives here in KC and been at ground zero of this disaster is feeling an intense fear of the Lord. Ministries are realizing we have mishandled sexual abuse in the church as a whole, many ministers have no authority with sexual immorality because of their own sins and compromises, it’s an absolute disgrace to the power of the gospel. We have not been a voice for the vulnerable and have defended “shepherds” over the sheep. We have cared more about the institutions than the people. There has been gross cover ups and straight up demonic spiritual deceptions, people are done with it and praying church leaders will wake up and realize God is allowing this to happen and He isn’t going to allow His sheep to be abused like this anymore. We are Ezekiel 34 moment

It is my deepest desire to see all fallen spiritual leaders restored to faith. It really is. But does that always have to seem like the primary concern? Must other spiritual leaders make such a rush to defend or extend mercy before repentance and remorse has even been shown? Having been a victim myself and experienced the concealing of it by those in positions to defend me, my heart breaks. This happens, and continues to happen because enough men don’t stand up and say, NO MORE!

Please hear me out here. I was a minor victim of this type of thing in a church 42 yrs ago. The total life altering devastation of what happens to the victims, their mental health, marriages, decisions in life, their families are dismissed with as “yes, we care about the victims, BUT”….then the 99.999% of the podcasts are then dedicated on how we can restore / describe the perpetrators!? That’s all we get!? When oh when will you church leaders help us with hours long podcasts of help and healing? It’s further humiliation and a swath of the hand dismissals. Our worlds completely changed, we doubt ourselves, we are live in shame…when we were innocent. It boggles my mind.

I agree with keeping ours eyes on the goal of restoration. But as you said, restoration cannot happen without the whole truth being exposed and repentance from the perpetrators. Unfortunately this situation that has occurred at IHOPKC is much more sinister than a leader who simply cannot control his sexual urges. The exposure is showing a leader who prayed on women as young as 14 yrs old, using his power, charisma, and even his prophetic gifts to manipulate his victims to coerce them into having sexual relations with him. The bonds were established not only for his own gratification but also to silence the victims to protect himself from being found out.. Some of the victims went to the leadership of IHOP, and nothing was done to rectify the situation. In fact, some of them covered it up, keeping the truth from being revealed. The reason the truth came out was because Mike Bickle and the leadership refused to do anything about the accusations when confronted. And then after the stories were made public, the people that knew the truth but were reluctant to act on it, lawyered up. Now what we're the victims supposed to do, get dragged into a court battle? This situation is more complicated and requires the transparency of many involved to get to the bottom of the evil that has taken place. Unless the whole rot is exposed, true restoration cannot not occur.

There is no need to “be careful” with this case. Go listen to the different variations of the “prophetic” history. He was never qualified. There were ALWAYS stories of flock abuse emerging from IHOPKC, from its very beginnings. We rejoice in protecting future, vulnerable kids and women, in this case. We must pray for the Bickle’s restoration and conversion to Jesus Christ.

I was a baby Christian when the Swaggert and PTL catastrophe went down. It shook my faith so hard. My love for Christ carried me through, but I had deep distrust for the Church and Church leadership for years. 😢

I believe that Bickle has had many opportunities to repent to trustworthy men of God whom have known him and love him deeply. I have not heard anyone deny that he can, and should be restored to right relationship with Christ. I honestly believe this exposure is the mercy of God in hopes that Mike would truly repent. His eternal salvation is at stake. God is jealous for him! .... We desire and agree with God for Mike's eternal relationship to be restored with the Lord. Restoration unto the Lord and restoration unto ministry are two completely different things. The sheep are tired of shepherds covering for one another and only caring for the wolves in sheep's clothing instead of the sheep. Ministry has become a professional occupation. It's grotesque and profane. Many if not most professional ministers are basically hirelings. This was never God's intention.

In Bickle's case he had a way of life that was in place dating back I am sure in his teens, but evident in his 20's till today. So he didn''t fall, because it was is mode operandi. He can't be restored, because he never had a healthy or holy walk ever that we know of. Re means going back to something that was, in his case all you go back to is predatory behavior.

I truly believe Mike is not a true believer, but an opportunist and someone who is very smart. THAT is what we need to start with!!

Ministry workers as well as leaders need to be taught what's appropriate behavior and what are signs of being seduced or groomed...even workplaces need that..

I completely agree with restoration with his relationship with God and to show mercy/grace but not his restoration to ministry. The Bible does say to judge those who call themselves a brother living in sin but it should be with the idea of bringing forth restoration to God not necessarly to public ministry.

As a christian believer, I found this podcast very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experiences and wisdom. Be radical. Be in the light as He is in the light. Be accountable. This is my takeaway from this podcast.

Nobody wants to know the details but am concerned about the victims and his denial !

What a beautiful testimony in yours and your parents' life. This is what godly love looks like. I find we oftentimes have a hard time believing in full restoration and complete healing and deliverance of a person. God bless you Robby.

This is a great video. I would add: "The devil sleepeth not; neither is the flesh as yet dead; Therefore cease not to prepare thyself for battle; For on thy right hand and on thy left are enemies who never rest." Thomas AKempis.

If you followed the IHOP situation closely it didn't just expose the sin and harm committed by Mike Bickle. It was also other people who shared the stage and 1) gave false prophetic words knowingly and manipulatively and 2) also sexually assaulted and/or manipulated people. It appears to be a hotbed of abuse in many forms. You may call those "gross details" but I think it is just getting to the heart of the matter.

This whole IHOP situation is a lesson. There was sin in plain sight. Blindness. Leader worship. Your oersonal stories do not adress cult dynamics. And it should be adressed. It is a main part of dealing with sin.

Robby i love most of what you habe said, but i have a concern with restoration in this case. You kept mentioning sins like adultery and affairs but there are pathways back to ministry with those. However what you failed to mention is the sin of pedophilia and grooming which goes back to early youth group days. I dont see a pathway back to ministry with that being the foundation of past ministry. The restoration is repentance on to God but ministry seems to be off the table on this case.

This grieves my heart so much. I have experienced spiritual abuse where there are double standards, hypocrites and people manipulated for personal gain. These situations are often very cult like and destroy peoples faith. I’m reminded of the scripture where Jesus says that it would be better for someone to have a milestone tied around their neck and thrown into the ocean than to cause any little one to stumble. What is sad to me is that abuse can live for so long in churches because people live in fear of Man and often God because they have been manipulated by scriptures to offer in abandoned loyalty and submission tho their leaders. People that leave the church because of discernment are often shunned. It can take years before someone can have the courage to speak up. Many of us have had many micro traumas from a spiritually abusive and manipulative atmosphere it is even hard to put your finger on the abuse because it was so manipulative. I think that this larger issue of spiritual abuse is coming to light as well. Some of it I think ministers fall into because they have fostered a toxic environment. It is so sad. We absolutely need to pray! Lord have mercy. Heal our brokenness!

This is not good Robby, you should know better: 1) Threatning judgement on people who are making statements (10:21) is manipulative and trying to silence people from telling their story. It keeps the truth from coming out and protecting the purpotrators. Robby should welcome and encourge everyone to come foreward with their stories. 2) Robby says that we should not seek gross details (0:18)but then unloads lots of gross details about his dad, Jim Baker and other ministers. 3)Robby fails to make distinction between leaders who have fallen and leaders who have been abusive and manipulative over decades. They are not fit for church leadership.

There are a lot of things that are would not be happening today if Bickle handled things right AT SOME POINT. He STILL hasn't! There's one big difference between Mike Bickel, and your father and that is fame. He is a famous Christian. His platform is way bigger and the consequences of his decisions are way more far reaching. Unfortunately, because of his lack of character, the same platform that made him famous is now forcing him down. It's just mind-boggling to me how there's so much "grace" after all of these months by these famous pastors, who are defending him.

Thank you 4 sharing Sir. Not an easy or direct issue to handle in today’s world. Praying

26:00 you say we should not judge. That is false teaching. The Bible says judge with righteous judgement. It only comes against hypocritical judgement. It says that we are to judge (penal) those within the church but not those in the world (in the penal sense). It says a spiritual man judges all things. So no, your saying we should not judge is false and demonic on your part.

A hard but meaty conversation. Bringing it into the light is so good.

Thank you for showing us a biblical way to respond all of this. We are call to pray for those who fall and for the victims. 🙏🏼💕 compassion, love, forgiveness.

This isn’t a fall, this is someone with hidden long-term sin. He’s called a sexual predator. It’s egregious. How could we even consider it a fall?! Too many weak responses from Godly men on this matter.

Honestly at this point, I’m sick to death of the defense of evil.

I appreciate your balanced take on this. It’s healthy for charismatic church leaders like yourself to speak to this publicly with balanced wisdom. I’m staying with folks that were in Kansas City back in the day and know the victims and are eager to see this issue handled in a way that doesn’t result in a premature restoration to ministry in this situation with proven sin.

But human justice is needed to stop further abuse. Abusers feed off secrecy so there is some merit in making abuse public so individuals can also protect themselves. The catholic church approached abuse solely within leadership but abuse would continue because the congregation was not told or made aware of them. We all appreciate the police setting up a public list of convicted pedophiles in your neighborhood, don't we? We can protect ourselves with knowledge.

Robby, Jesus’ definition of “affair” was “If anyone looks at a woman lustfully has committed adultery”. That’s the biblical model. End of story!

Thank you for this teaching !As someone who was under the ministry of another one of Bob Jones spiritual children who was known as a great man of God , and ended up talking about his visits to the red light district in Amsterdam to me in a spiritual Father / Daughter pastoral session , I have been very troubled since I heard about Mike Bickle . This video brought much needed healing and comfort to my soul , and gave me perspective on the matter . Maybe this is a test for the body of Christ as well in terms of the way the handle the matter . It’s tough , very tough to know someone you admired had a double life , but I believe the blood 🩸 is enough if there is true repentance. From what you are saying we can’t judge if repentance has happened as hearing the nasty details is not for us . Sometimes there is a demon in the soul that causes all these troubles and casting out of a demon or demons can resolve the matter . I thank you for your wisdom and insight , it helped me much ! Blessings !

How do you AVOID putting leaders in positions to fail? Quit this “never question Gods leader” cult practice AND quit COLLECTING followers. Small groups seems to be the best model for discipleship AND helps keep “leaders” who love collecting followers from getting selfimportant.

I went to the Church on the Way with Dr. Jack Hayford for 20 years. There were many miscarriages in the congregation and Pastor Jack asked the Lord if there was sin in the camp. It came out that one of the worship leaders greatly loved with his wife, had molested little kids, boys I believe. He was brought in front of the whole congregation and exposed and rebuked. The whole congregation sighed because he was greatly loved. He submitted himself to a restoration process and was reinstalled to ministry 3 years later. Which he shouldn't have. But he relapsed and after that he disappeared.

53:36 That was tried repeatedly, for well over a year. If a leader resists a Matthew 18 process (he did), and acts vindictively (he did), he has to be publicly exposed, and loudly, lest other kids and women get destroyed by his massive influence. We don’t curate secrets and selective revelation while we let a celebrity leader quietly disappear in total unrepentance. This cannot be kept secret. Had Mike confessed during the Matthew 18 process and turned away from his sin, it’s likely the public wouldn’t know a single thing. The Lord is cleaning His house.

Really good and balance Robby, we met at Pastor Mike Hudgins church. Your a good man. I do believe the public confrontation according to 1 Timothy 5:20 is to bring a holy fear to all. I also agree how they respond is up to them, and anyone can tell if it's real and contrite by the response. I also believe that there is an element of shame and holy fear for the perpetrator to keep him from doing it again, but it stops there, it's done after that. I have friends very close to Mike and at this point it's unfortunate as he is not contrite and truly repentant right now, so let's pray that he comes under conviction and does the right thing, for as we extend mercy to him through prayer, we receive mercy. I never posted anything right away about it, even though I have known about it for some time now. I have posted a video recently of some upright brothers that have brought it out since then. I was in a situation in a church where I was one of the lead intercessors for the church and pastor. I sensed a block with this man for years, but the Lord told me to just stay and prayer, so I did, well it came out later about his affairs, it was so devastating, he was dealt with and stepped down, I really don't believe he has ever really repented, so I still pray for him, that he would truly be contrite and come under conviction and true repentance, that is my prayer. But I have only talked to a few people from the church about it, it's just sad to me. So yes I am all for church discipline, but it needs to be done in a contrite and upright spirit, and a spirit of holy fear.

We handle fallen leaders with credible accusations, as Matthew 18 says. If he refuses to meet with fellow elders, and face credible testimony, he is ex-communicated and put out of the church for the salvation of his soul.

Thank you for being totally biblically honest. Your beginning question/statement(not necessarily word for word), "if you want all the details, I'm concerned about you", I believe was Yah responding to my prayer this morning. I was asking why am I so obsessed with this story and all the videos? Your Holy Spirit inspired message moved me to confession and repentance for the inappropriate desire for all the details(like reading a tabloid magazine). I grieve about this. Thank you for sharing this truth.

You never answered the most pressing question: Can Mike Bickle ever be a leader in the body of Christ again?

Thank you, Robby. I've thought that Mike had a genuine side and a side seduced into deep hidden sin from when it became apparent that the accusations are true. I know most people don't understand about walking in anointing and sincerity, and sin both at the same time, but you tell yourself you're repenting and it's behind you, and then you move forward as if it really is over. I know at least one person who knew Mike personally in the past, and I know another who was in meetings with a board member of IHOP KC. I think Mike was both what he appeared to be and what we see now. He had a firewall around him, who, (I think), believed in him so much that they were blind to what they saw, which also made it easy for Mike to be overcome by sin, and still sincerely believe in what he was doing at IHOP. I still do believe in the prayer room. I also understand too well the seduction of secret sin while wanting to walk with God. I just had to confess a shameful temptation to my pastor to keep it from growing to sin.

How do we handle adultery in the church? I'd like you to talk about that. Divorce and Remarriage is Adultery. "He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way." Matthew 19:8. -Jesus is the only standand. Not Moses.

Sure, we need to be careful, but that does NOT mean we look the other way, & condone the sin. Need to watch/listen to the Ernie Gruen material from 1990 read his book, “Do WE Keep Smiling & Say Nothing?”

The fallen leader he's referring to is Bishop Earl Paulk, who was the senior leader at the Cathedral of the Holy Spirit at Chapel Hill Harvester Church in Metro Atlanta.

Everyone has an opinion about this situation. At the end Mike Bickel was call and anointed by God. God is the ultimate judge and he has the last saying in the life and ministry of Mike Bickle.

I’m so sorry this happened to you family 😞 I see that you are trying to be fair on all sides. Restoration is important, but I think we need to make a distinction between restoration to the *faith* and restoration to *ministry.* The Bible says elders should be above reproach to the outside world. Some of these leaders can never be there again, period. They can and should be restored to faith, but it sounds a lot like ministers are calling for their restoration to *ministry,* and I don’t know why that is important at all.

Wait. Are we defending Jim Bakker, at all? He disqualified himself LOOOONG before he stepped into a room with Jessica.

I think what I see people struggle with most is the word “Restoration” that voices of authority have used when expressing their personal hope for a fallen minister, but they do not define what they mean by that word. When people are severely affected by the sin, and “Restoration” is a commentator’s hope, what is the restoration unto? Any reasonable believer would agree that restoration to holy fear and intimate fellowship with the Most High God of the Bible should be celebrated. A call to restoration to ministry, though, seems to have a great need a high level of caution. We Christians need to be clear how we communicate opinions, directives, and prophetic utterances. We can run so long with likeminded brothers and sisters that assuming unity in how we think about things gets us in hot water. Let us be measured. Robby, I thank you for your heart for Jesus.

Bad shepherds tiday will nit go through the restoration process. Too arrogant and unrepentant. There is an accountability deficit in the church. This may take us to the end of the church age. Grievous.

Are we overlooking the demonic impact in the lives of the ‘congregation’ when the leader sins?? What has been imparted in the spiritual realm?

1 Tim 5:19 doesn't apply when someone is sexually abused. Alls it takes is one coming forth to take it seriously. More times than not the woman is right due to the courage it takes for her to come forth. However I get each case has its merits and we need widsom in how to deal with each one.

Well said.

I didn’t know anything about this till I seen the caption. I’ve known of IHOP for many years. I really liked one of the musicians named Misty Edward’s. I was a new Christian back when Jimmy Swagger derailed. Jim and Tammy Baker’s demise was the “love of money.” I don’t recall anything about a setup. When they operated PTL it was about financial issues diverting millions of dollars of church money for personal use. I know he married a woman named Lori Graham who attended Phoenix First shortly after being released from prison. They rejoined back with PTL and sell items on a telecast. *TheHolySpirit wouldn’t allow me to watch them on TV back in 1985 being a new born-again believer…then when the scandal hit I knew why. It’s heartbreaking 💔 when those who are so much in the public’s eyes believing they’re of God only to fall short and cause others non-believers/believers to either lose faith or reject Christianity. We are all accountable. We are not above reproach. God is exposing tons and tons of things hidden in the dark.

Grieving…go slow, go low. We are ALL deeply affected. Joining our hearts with others - John 17, we experience the oil of Unity from the leadership, and each of our lives and family’s lives experience the poison. We will find FULL recompense IN His Heart….low and slow. I’m able to breath through all of this faith by faith, step by step, choice by choice, Glory to Glory. God will turn ALL THING TOGETHER FOR GOOD for those who are willing to walk low and slow.

Thank you for this. This was balanced and healthy. Maybe the most healthy take I have heard. I believe need to talk about confessing and dealing with sin more in our churches today.

The scripture does support a church leader confessing their sin publicly like Mike Bickle . He should confess publicly and he actually should be in prison for abusing minors.

Hopefully bickle will confess everything once he’s in jail

Mike Bickle must demonstrate repentance and simply behave as a Christian. This is restoration not perpetuating a narcissistic manipulation even using prophecy to cover his sin. This guy has been diabolical. True ministry is more important than any one ministry.

Gross sin has to be fully exposed. I would question any leader who doesn't support the exposure of this sin in the church. If you are not willing to see this situation from all angles you are part of the cover-up/darkness. The church cannot move forward until this happens. Period.

It’s not wanting to know the gross details of someone’s sin. It’s wanting to know if he committed a crime or not. His victim was 14 and he truly should have been prosecuted. There is sin and there is sin that is criminal behavior. People are tired of of victims being the ones on trial and the church covering up crimes.

Appreciate the clarifying word on Kris Valloton.

Great show, I would have spoken a bit more on how victims need to get their own support and not feel ashamed as they deserve trustworthy support and care, a victim doesn’t need to focus on having compassion on their abuser, they need safety. Thanks for sharing honesty. I didn’t know Mike’s dad was a sexual abuser so no wonder Mike has similar problems.

If you’re walking with the Holy Spirit, he will guide and direct you around. Major bombs and IHOP was a bomb.

We all fall short. We should just be praying for redemption & restoration for all.

God bless you and keep you Robby!

First time I've seen you're channel Robby, I think the story you shared about the corrupt leader and about your family are powerful. Just wondering where the assumption comes from that this man was ever qualified to be a spiritual leader, therefore why would it ever be the goal to restore such a one to ministry? We have a disqualification in character from 1 Tim. 3 and these standards weren't there from the offset it seems, in Mike's 20's when he was preying on a 14 year old as a 25 year old married pastor with children. Is this self righteous judgement we are supposed to withhold or is this just an observation that the standards of laying on of hands and seeking qualified men weren't upheld from early on? As Paul says in 1 Cor. 5, a man such as this should be cast out of the church so that satan destroys their flesh and their spirit can be saved in the end. In other words, these are clearly actions of a non-believer and to have any protocols in place to put a worthless shepherd back over the flock would be a misdiagnosis. We should definitely not have a standard (as is illustrated in 2 Cor. 2) where someone repents who has been kicked out of fellowship and we are unwilling to administer grace, this Paul says is giving satan an advantage and being ignorant of his devises. I think this is your point and it should be well taken, but it has nothing to do with putting or restoring someone into leadership over the flock of Christ, but accepting them as a believer showing godly sorrow and repentance. This whole system is creating narcissistic satanic self absorbed "leaders" who are not following Jesus, and how is it that we aren't seeing that it's exactly what Paul warned of in 2 Tim. chapters 3-4? One other thing is I always wonder where this guilt/shame teaching comes from. As Paul speaks to the Corinthians he speaks of shame several times in those letters, chapter 4, 6 and 15 of the first letter, saying both he wasn't writing to shame them, and in some places he was. This really comes to a head in chapter 7 of the second letter when he uses the term "godly sorrow" which was clearly a tool he was using to produce repentance in them which he says leads to salvation. How then is this portrayed as of the enemy when all through the scriptures, like Nineveh in Jonah's day, God was so clearly using guilt, shame, conviction, godly sorrow etc. to produce repentance and salvation. This, it seems, is just another teaching like satan used in the wilderness with Jesus, telling Him to cast Himself off the temple because the bible says so. Jesus saw clearly that satan was using a little bit of twisted scripture to contradict clear scripture. We shouldn't fall for these, but we should search the scriptures to see whether these things are true (Acts 17:11).

Can you all stop judging This Man of God. Remember For the way you judge you Will also be judged.Stop attacking him. Pray

"Kingdom of God is a Theocracy " Amen Brother! (Side note, Theocracy is my favorite Christian Metal band...Incredible music and Lyrics) I'm liking the Podcast bro! Straight talk!

Eph 5 gives directions for how to deal with darkness. I honestly don’t understand this doctrine of don’t expose darkness in the church, when the whole of scripture says the opposite? Paul said to even call people out in front of others so they would fear. Put them out of the church and deliver them to satan. This is the redemptive prescription for unrepentant sin for all in the church. I hear so many Christian leaders in all denominations teaching this keep it hush doctrine and it’s confusing to me? It’s ok to tell the truth and when a leader sins with sexual immorality especially against a member of his congregation, it should be called out and dealt with in humility and respect openly. So, that everyone can learn that this is a real consequence if you want to be a leader. You blew it and there are real consequences. This is simple. I appreciate you Robby and your work big time. but I sense that same sentiment of keep it hush. I accept your warning of measures, but I in turn would caution you to not rework what scripture teaches on handling darkness in the church. No shame, just truth in love. God Bless! The world covers up, not the church.

Robby. You are a godly man, and this is the most legit commentary on the IHOPKC situation I've heard. Thank you!

Here is how you deal with a fallen leader..... Pick them up....dust them off.....love and forgive them..... Then move on !!!!! This making such a big, long dragged out deal if somebody sins, is just crazy...self righteous ..and dumb!!!!!

He was given a place to repent in the privacy of the ihop leadership team. He has continued to manipulate and lie and lets not forget he has been a serial sexual predator for over 40 years. Sorry but this absolutely needed to be outed. I honestly can't believe you all...

You know, James 5 is huge, I have a brother/father type in the Lord and we confess our sins to one another. Let me tell you how powerful doing that is, and I don't say this to brag, it's not fun to talk about, I am saying this to be transparent and encourage many of the power of Christ to bring freedom. We would even confess to one another when we fell into masterbation and that God would free us, you know what, God has freed both of us from this, it happened at the same time, in the last probably 5 moths each of us fell back one time and we confessed it. Think about that, we battled with that our whole lives and now Jesus freed us. Only God gets the glory for that, only He can free from any sin, any sin, just be open, have someone to confess to and trust, it's huge!

Sorry Robbie. You lost me at the 15 minute mark when, from the very beginning, You came at it from the perspective of "restoring the perpetrator." You did say you felt sorry for the victims. You should have heard their stories. He should "never" have a public platform again. His abuse was decades long with many, many victims. When a shepherd preys upon his sheep he's no longer a shepherd but a wolf. He has "not" repented! These women's lives were shattered. Let's hear the stories of the victims rather than how we should restore the man of God. This may sound like I'm angry Robbie. I'm truly not, just frustrated. He should be restored but never to a public platform again and all victims should even be restored in a financial way, as his ministry brought in millions of dollars, some of which he used to house these women. Money that had been given from his faithful flock was used for him to perpetrate this harm to the women. Not consensual. I'm sure your intentions are right and good Robbie but it's always good to research and educate yourself before you speak on a public platform.

Such a good talk thank you! Restoration of all victims including Mike Bickel, I don't know Mike Bickel's upbringing nor am i trying to insinuate anything, but most sexual abusers have been sexually abused as young children.

I rally liked this Robby. Good perspective. We all, us ministers, should walk circumspect knowing “satan roams about like a roaring lion.”

Jesus said to first remove the log from your eye to see clearly in helping your brother remove the speck from his. If not then that person is not qualified for leadership in the Church. Leadership is to model a life worth replicating. Authenticity is key. This must be more than just theory!

Well said Robby!! Blessings

Beautiful. Well said. Thank you.

thank you for being so transparent and honest about what the scriptures admonish us all to do!

With few happy exceptions, marriages grow cold. The honeymoon eventually ends. Frustration builds up to the point you can't sleep, and some of your casual female acquaintances become a tormenting obsession. The only thing in the whole universe that is more powerful than a man's urge to copulate is the strength that is found in Daddy-child intimacy with God. Very few of us ever experience that depth in the Holy Spirit; but until we do, we cannot resist that burning desire in our flesh. Most often we have to experience the anguish of the bitter fruits of what we've done before we come to the point of yielding to the will of God rather than yielding to our flesh. It NEVER becomes easy.

I have no desire to judge people. Yet as much as I believe Robby is a genuine follower of Jesus, how can we call someone a Christian if they were involved with serial adultery? I was in the ministry for 3.5 years in the 1990's and was totally addicted to porn. When I repented I was exposed and had to face my own guilt, shame and humility. I went through a process of restoration and have been living in freedom from lust and porn since August of 1997. I have spoken with many men struggling with lust, porn adultery etc. Most of whom are never restored properly or continue to "fall" into the same sin over and over. IF we believe the only way to tell if someone is a true disciple of Jesus is the fruit of the Holy Spirit produced from their lives then how do we explain or call someone a Christian who over time has continued to give into the same sin over and over. Again I have no desire to judge, I want to see men live in radical freedom because Jesus did it for me. I have been married and faithful to my wife for the last 27 years. I am so grateful. Brokenness has never left my life but live in wholeness now. I know the Father's genuine love and live for Jesus. I am so concerned about men not really being saved in the first place or if they do get saved and continue to backslide into these type of sins often the church makes excuses by leaning into the grace of God. God is not only a loving savior but will one day be a severe judge. The true amazing grace of God must not be trampled upon. Jesus paid a horrible price for us. Thank you Robby for sharing your heart and experiences. Seeing and hearing the details of your life and how you live for Jesus now is a blessing.

I’m 16 minutes in, all you’re doing is making excuses for people that fall into insane sin so far.hope this gets better. Sorry your dad did that awful thing

I live in Metro Atlanta snd I’m trying to remember or figure out who it was

Great stuff! Best message I have heard on the Mike Bickle situation. Thank you Robby!

@49:15 "I'll never repeat those rumours", he said... while repeating those rumours on RU-vid! lol

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Thanks Robby! This is soooo good! As always, God uses you to bring restoration and healing for people who are hurting. There was a special time in my life, when God used you to restore me back into a place of safety and freedom. You heard a Word from God and you spoke it out. You did not know that the Scripture you quoted was my favorite Scripture since a child. "Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world!! It broke the fear and the isolation that I had felt at that moment, and it broke off condemnation that others had projected toward me. Thank You! As a member of the Body of Christ, I was deeply hurt by the knowledge of this leader we all have been concerned about! I am finding more healing from your video! I have sought to find healing in all of this, I have sought to find videos that would bring healing for this pastor. Your video is the one to watch if Christians need healing from the fall of this precious leader. Prayers of mercy and compassion is what we all need to pray for him. I really needed to hear this!! Blessings to You and Yours!!

There are people who are sociopaths and refuse to acknowledge their own faults and misdeeds - ever. They will personally destroy you if they can. Your dad’s story is great but some people aren’t normal. Even God lets them go.

what seems to me at the core of strongholds at the heart of ihop is "idolatry"... many were seeking a platform and name for themselves which blinded many to the strongholds in Mikes life.. as he was made an idol in many peoples hearts.. it also appears MB fed on the idol and image he had curated in public ministry. When idolatry is such a stronghold every evil spirit can follow in behind uncontested. The prophetic movement was hijacked by this and prophetic gifts were used to bolster these strongholds. An older man garnering attention from younger women is intrinsically tied in with this stronghold of idolatry. So many churches today are filled with people looking for some exposure on 'the stage' to be seen by men and demonstrate their gifts.. IHOP provided this with a 24/7 stage instead of 2hrs a week like most churches.. Jesus rebuked the pharisees for these 'public' displays and said go pray in secret.. the house of prayer God is building will be much more hidden and less produced.

When a leader looses everything what do you propose his wife and children use for the money to pay a counselor as you suggest? Or food, clothing and shelter to get their lives back together for that matter? Restoring perpetrators matters...victim voices matter...wives matter...children matter...it all matters. i'm sorry you had to experience this first hand...thanks for sharing.

Necessary and timely teaching. Thank you for your service and understanding

So appreciate your wisdom on this! Plus the vulnerability of what you have seen over the years in ministry.

Bless you bleoved one... I so appreciate you heart. and the way you communicated god's truth on the podcast... So good. Lets do a podcast together....

Psalm 58 :3 3The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. 4Their poison is like the poison of a serpent; They are like the deaf cobra that stops its ear, 5Which will not heed the voice of charmers, Charming ever so skillfully.

Democracy...Theocracy...Constitutional Republic...accuracy matters.

Wise counsel. There is a bigger picture, the enemy gets his mileage to have the world judge the body of Christ when men and women of God fall. The Chinese here who don’t know Christ would ask me why do you Christians have so many different churches and you have one Jesus? So much “church hurt” , division, lack of love , difference of doctrine, Jesus told us people would know us “ by our love one to another”. Do we really ?

Matt 19:9

Thanks Robby this is really good and wise and mature.

Thank you, Robbie!

Very honest heart sharing lessons . Thanks. Unless you have experienced what it is like to be judged falsely as well as truthfully it is easier to gossip, judge and condemn. Jesus is always there to receive and forgive. People unfortunately don’t. As long as we live in a broken world with broken people we will get scars. “ he that is without sin cast the first stone”.

We pray for them and love them period.