How do you even survive this in Victoria 3? 

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I think it's good to mention that these guys once transported two ships across 90 km of mud by foot because they had to take them from one port to another without being spotted

fun fact: i'm from a small city in rio grande do sul and from what i know this revolt was started because they imported charque from other countries for cheaper instead of importing it from rio grande do sul, yeah, we went to war over meat prices.

Good to see Laith honoring his rival Brazil by dying his hair green and wearing a friar's cloak.

Laith discovering that RNG in Paradox games a prerolled seed is just precious. Basically, how it works is that the game doesn't "roll the dice" every time an event happens. It rolls a bunch of dies at the start and then goes through them as events happen.

My guy is playing with my home state, never expected it 💀

gotta love how irl this war lasted almost 10 years meanwhile Victoria 3's war system manages to make this last a couple weeks

22:15 he was trying to increase the level of the professional army but he was clicking on the button to upgrade conscripts 😂

Laith: "Argentina and Chile have claims so I cant colonize!" (26:19) *kills both* (27:15 + 28:41) France: *starts colonizing* (30:39) Laith: *shocked pikachu face* (32:02)

The rebellion that founded the Riograndense Republic is actually celebrated with a holiday here in the Brazilian state where it happened. Yes, we celebrate a war we lost.

The Gaucho Yell event finally fired in 1874… 36:45 and then Laith notices it 38:30

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Its the Local Prices and MAPI system that were causing the iron on one side of your nation to be cheap, and having a shortage of it on the other side of the country. you need to increase your laws, build railways, etc to boost it in the early game, or just build all of it in one state. which is hard to do here since there isn't a state with both iron, wood, and coal that you start with.

É os guri n tem jeito

I believe that the problem with the economy you're having might be Local Prices! Check prices in your states. With the new changes, then ideally you want- say- the iron at 26:06 to have as many Tools, Coal and Transportation in the same state to bring down the input price, and as many iron-using factories in the same state to drive up demand and make the output more profitable. Alternately, you can spread an industry across multiple states to make sure no one state is sucking up too many resources (e.g if you need to import coal).

As someone from Rio Grande do Sul, I'm so happy to see Laith doing a video about the Ragamuffin War in Vic3!

32:24 they can colonize bc there is no country with claims, that's why you couldn't colonize when Chile and Argentina existed, once you annexed them you open a competition to which country colonize faster. Also industries are not profitable bc you didn't consider local price. If lead is the other part of the country it will be more expensive. You have to research some technology to reduce the MAPI

In regards to colonizing southern america... You cannot do it when Argentina and Chili is around, this was to prevent people from instantly colonizing at the start of the game... Yet Argentina and Chili do not even touch colonization for years, and I have had games where they never do it so it's never colonized. The moment both of them are dead, anyone can colonize it whenever they want. I think the best route for this would be making the southern Americans able to colonize, Argentina and Chile able to colonize but faster, then any other country to colonize at level 3-4 colonization cuz rn, it's borked af.

I live there! The initial war is the "Guerra dos Farrapos", meaning war of the farrapos. We celebrate this war every 20 of september, even though we lost

As a Brazilian from Rio Grande so Sul im honored to see Laith have this run

36:45 Laith waiting the whole Video for the Gaucho Yell. It finally appeared. Laith: What the hell is that *click*

The seed is the exact same every time, unless you do a single different thing. I have done SO much testing with this. Even things like switching the bloody PMs on buildings will change the seed. Mobilizing your troops a different day will change the seed. You can test this by running a lot of week ones with the same load. You will get the exact same tech spread every time, unless you do something different. Adding a building to the que also changes this. When Britain makes their decision on the opium war is another time you can tell if your seed has changed, Britain can go from ignoring the opium war on a save, to hating the Qing or vice versa by just simply switching a pm (even on an unbuilt building!!) I use these as markers to tell if I have manipulated a seed or not, as they happen every game no matter what and within the first month. You can do things like general fishing like this, as the new general that spawns is different depending on the DAY you hire the previous, letting you stack your army with whatever faction you want pretty easily if you don't mind save scumming. (Again testable by just saving and reloading every day hiring a general, you will notice the new one is different depending specifically on the day you hire the previous. Also want to point out: hiring generals does change your seed too, so be careful if fishing for a general within the first week if you like your tech spread on a save!) You can even manipulate the construction que AI by this. If you find when you do your first construction sector, you don't like what they are building, change your build que, add some things (even things you don't plan on building,) just to make it look like to the AI you are building it, like wheat and the AI all of a sudden will NOT que it anymore, switching what it thinks your market may need in the future. To add a few more manipulation things you can do: Law passing has NOTHING to do with the percentage. It has EVERYTHING to do with the DAY it checks. You can again test this on a save as you will always get the same event for a law on the first trigger (if its an event) unless you have manipulated RNG as said above (as getting a political movement, which can happen if you manipulate your seed with the pm/building trick can also change the events on a day, but not pass/fail from my testing However ONLY a political movement has changed the event for a law passing in my testing, not the adding buildings to the que/pm trick as above). If you have a way to manipulate the DAY it does the check (through the enactment bonus for having a lot of authority as an example, or having a super legit/illegitimate government to speed/slow down the law) you will also change the outcome of that check as well, even if the percentage to pass remains the exact same. (which the new event will be the exact same event for that day, REGARDLESS of what you do to get there, authority government thus proving its more the day and not percentage that matters ect ect.) You can also cheat construction by saving and reloading. If you find you are building a HUGE deficit, and the investment que has no money, you can save and reload, then the next item will sudden be fully invested and start building, taking the stress off your economy for awhile. This works as long as you do not change the construction que before unpausing after saving and reloading.

This reminds me of Laith's Northumberland survival run in CK3

In the new patch prices are very local for less develop nations, you had your iron and steel buildings in different states wich made it very inefficient

the rage quit was very cathartic.

I am from Rio Grande do Sul, and Vic3 makes the Brazil's army way more powerful than it was at the time. To be fair, Brazil at this time was fighting in the north (Grão-Pará), like the game, but Bahia and Maranhão also were at war with D. Pedro II and the central olygarchy. Great game!

6:35 if battle modifiers are somehow hardcoded, it's the funniest shit ever

I believe in battles and events the "random chance" is set as an initial seed like in minecraft, this way you can restart from an earlier save and still get the same events in like a law pass for example. I didn't know this also applied to battles too huh.

Love your vids mate, always watch them on my train into work :::)

only video that captures the real palpable frustration this game creates in anybody trying to do anything in it ever

I think Paradox added in certain hard-coded features for CK3 and Vic3, I'm pretty sure to counter save-scumming (especially since you can now get achievments outside of ironman mode) - for CK3 it's mostly events and their outcomes that's predetermined - while Vic3 it's battle outcomes

> We fought Brasil and everyone died Wait a minute this isn't Paraguay

Love the Victoria playthroughs!

biggest crime in this entire vid is Laith saying "stars and bars"... ITS STARS AND STRIPES!!

Before the patch this was one of my favorite starts. After the patch I haven't touched it

While I was playing Argentina through the 1.5 beta, they actually managed to win that war as AI. Much more than I ever managed against Brazil lol.

18:22 Yea, liquor has to be distilled with proper equipment. Wine and beer aren't distilled and just fermented drinks. Here in the U.S, it's why beer and wine can be sold in any markets, while things like Vodka and whisky you'll have to go to a specific store specializing in it.

7:00 Laith discovers locked seed.

I'm from Rio Grande, and i managed to win this on the Leaked Build, Release, and on Vic2 HPM, with a lot of Savescumming, obviously.

The rng state is part of the save. Also, are you doing encourage enlistments, and road maintenance decrees?

Hey im from Porto Alegre the capital of the "Rio Grande do Sul" state of brazil, former Riograndense Republica, glad to see you playing and wining!!

The thing with battles going the exact same way after each load, is probably caused by "seeded" randomness. Each random value is created using the seed, which always produces the same result, and the seed is updated. Save games then include the state of the seed from when the game was saved, and each new game generates a new random seed.

Non sapevo che Garibaldi avesse combattuto in brasile

Love how he’s slowly losing his sanity 10/10

This was beautiful. I hope Laith revisits this campaign.

Laith: "We should research Laith" I agree

Game Seed must affect first battle to be always the same if the day it starts is the same.

I've also had the same issue with employment since the 1.5 update. It can completly reck your economy.

When conquerors are eating territories for grocery: 23:20

I somehow survived my first time when I tried but that was before the most recent updates

cant believe you played them before Brazil itself

"Lets Research Laith"

The come back!

And the RNG seed is part of each and every save file. To advance it and get different battle results, you'd need to trigger some other RNG event before the battle, which is practically impossible. You do need to start from the main menu every time to get different battle rolls, not reloading a save.

You probably had a shortage due to local prices. There's a new modifier called "Market Price Impact" that reduce the effect the market has on the local price. You can improve this with tech

We will not forget your sacrifice for playing this country laith

I played a massive federation of the Americans game starting as Bolivia yesterday and same issues, people didn't work in profitable buildings so after I got the Amazon rail road exploitation achievement I axed the game no one would work in stell yet i had a shortage and the building was 50.0 with 1k employees.

I have developed a severe and uncontrollable crush on Laith...

Yeah unfortunately for your reloading, paradox RNG is rolled, then assigned as the game goes on. So with so little factors using RNG so early on, just reloading the battle will generally result in the same thing.

It was a though start but once you win that first war its pretty straight forward (and its not that though to win actually). Got the achievement not Piri-tiny out of luck in nov 1858 with 3.8mil of gdp as brazil was having some issues with an aristocratic revolt making their gdp plummit to 1. something mil lol

Laith, I feel like I don't get economy now too, can you make a video about it, after you find it out? And about colony: after you conquer country - you remove their Claims for the land, that's why French could colonize Mapuche.

can you play with Grão-Pará is a independent region in north of Brazil, very similar with this one

modena annexed sardinia-piedmont due to the new italy features kinda of weird but it happens

Now try winning the Cabanagem as Grand-Pará!! xD

Vídeo da querência, quase caí do cavalo, tchê! *_Mostremos valor, constância_* *_Nesta ímpia e injusta guerra_* *_Sirvam nossas façanhas_* *_De modelo a toda Terra_* *_Mas não basta, pra ser livre_* *_Ser forte, aguerrido e bravo_* *_Povo que não tem virtude_* *_Acaba por ser escravo_*

I managed to do this semi authentically without save scumming by splitting the army in 3, creating a fleet of 1 Frigate and then navally invading Rio de Janeiro first and then Paraná. That encircled the brazilian troops in the south and split the fronts. That front mess then saved enough time for the war score to drop 😅 Still took a few runs and my heart was racing

also the event that you said the hell is this was the gaucho yell event you missed from earlier that it didn't give you

So does Tiwi exist in other Paradox games? Some good content if they do!

Rio Grande do Sul mentioned!

Tchê!!! Good luck! 🇨🇬

Don Pedro, I've come to bargain

This video reminds me of the time when I played as Brazil and literally lost to the Rio Grande 😂, it was my first game of Vic3.

I'm Brazilian and I guess you should somehow try to do it kinda historically... The "farrapos" - "Rags" walked over state of Santa Catarina and made a puppet state there named "republica Juliana". It took TEN YEARS to the central government to defeat the rebels... The rebels even put a ship over chariots to be able to get to the sea... There is a series "casa das sete mulheres" depicting dramatically the history of the rebel leadership family's. pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerra_dos_Farrapos?wprov=sfla1

On my first run with them I took rio, thought “wow this is way easier than I thought,” then collapsed and won 0 battles in my next 20 attempts 🙃

TIL Laith would be very good as a TAS creator.

lmao have thought about doing this. good one

tomando um mate e vendo meu rio grande sendo representado. Bagual de video chê

"Hardest start in vic3" theman says when Touggourt is right there.

36:45 "What the hell is this?" It's the event you were confused was missing when you won the independence war.

My home estate! LET'S GO!

Hindustan does have one front line now~!

My guess is QA had a hard time testing that Gaucho Yell Edit: 36:45 it finally fires. Edit: 38:30 It ... fires again?

you should play Circassia next or one of the Russian vassals I’d like to see how well you do

I can't help but be reminded of Tiwi

oh my god laith i haven't watched in a bit, your hair. good god. humina humina. WOOF

No idea how you won that, I've used every possible buff available and brazil simply sends another 10 stack down south as soon as the inept AI dies as grao-para up north

I have seen the AI win and even make the Santa Catarina state free as well (I was playing on the observer mode) but Idk if this is because of the new DLC and whatnot (Brazil also lose Grão-Pará)

The Riograndese Republic is great if you're playing as Grao Para, though - the dispersal it forces on Brazilian forces makes it much easier to secure your independence :P Of course, in turn, the Grao Paran attempt at independence is the only reason you really have a chance of securing the Riograndese Republic. It can easily hold the ground against half the Brazilian army. I wonder if it would be possible to win both independence plays at the same time in multiplayer :P Don't forget the RNG seed is saved with the save game. No matter how many times you reload, if you let the game play itself, it will always play out exactly the same way. What you _can_ affect is the actions you make, some of which require RNG rolls, which in turn affects what result you might get in the event you're trying to save scum. The strategies _are_ pseudo-random - there is (say) 20% chance to select X strategy. But if you start with the same seed and do the same order of rolls, you will always get the same results. That's why we call them "pseudo-random number generators" and why they are unsuitable for cryptography, among other things.

The rng is bound to the save, so resetting the save doesn’t reset the rng, it’s a mechanic to stop people from savescumming laws.

[.Next Can Be Liberia Is Less Different Place.] AND OTHER SMALL NATIONS [.Laith Plays All Small Nations.]

32:25 you need to demand colonisation rights. If you kill the ones with the exclusivity, the decentralised regions become real estate for anyone.

I figure the reason the game became unstable was entirely due to the event trying to spawn a natuon in a proviance you dont own but need to own for the event and failing

in vic3 everything is known whats gonna happen from the event beginning, in legislation, in battles or other somethings.

it is really interesting how Vic3 represent the "Riograndense" Commanders, they use these german hats, and it is historically accurate because this region had tons of german immigrants (nowdays, there are cities in this region that only speaks german) really interesting

😐 Laith when he finally invades Brazil but ends up taking Rio De Janeiro and São paulo while completely ignoring Santa Catarina and Paraná

Dear lord the hair, I always forget about it then I look at the screen

I somehow won this. I just spammed troops and added 4 leaders to the army. issue is that i had no resources or money after to build the country. i just kinda sat there for years. it was cool. but boring after XD

Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

i just tried to naval invade the russians as the ottomons and i had the same thing happen where the russian fleet would constantly contest and have full morale endlesslessy

I'm from Rio Grande do Sul and this is our chance of revenge LOL