Been coming to Pattaya since 2018 and I have never expected anything more than short visits with the local ladies. I have my favorites/regulars but I never see them more than 2-3 days in a row. I understood the game since day 1 in this town. So many foreigners come here and try to create a long term relationship with a Thai including the ones who work in bars/FL. Maybe a genuine relationship with a Thai was possible 10-20 years ago before smartphones were used, but now it's nearly impossible. I'd argue the same thing also applies to relatively attractive ladies in the Philippines. I know a 22yo in the Philippines who just told me some foreigner she met is building her a house and she wants to know when I'll come visit her to have some fun haha. This is Southeast Asia!
Money is survival for her family, as their is no social security in Thailand, what would you do mr everything in Pattaya 😂. Your trying to make some money 🤑 💰 talking shit😂.
HaHa so true but i do not blame the girls its their job,i do smile though when guys on here say my gf this and my gf that...its not your gf guys wake up.
I’ve just returned from Thailand three months ago and I’m still feeling the blues. Besides working, I don’t feel like going out (Toronto, Canada). It’s cold, grey, lifeless and expensive here. I’m just saving money for my next trip. I’ll return to Thailand just for the food alone!
I moved here from Toronto a few years. Not a single regret of having left the lifestyle and weather and cost of living there behind. People here are just more relaxed and overall nicer.
One solution a lot of guys have for the back home blues is to book your next trip before leaving. It's a positive psychological boost to get through until the next visit.
The words "This is Thailand" are like drops of acid on the soul. Not a reflection of Thailand but rather on the human condition in a place of gross inequities.
Great advice. I have been to Thailand many times and heard all these tales. I was going around with a bar girl during my 4 week stay once, she lead me to a gold shop, she chose a £300 ring, i refused to buy it. We got back to the bar, and she never spoke to me for a few hours. I got up out of my seat. said to myself i am not taking this shit, and just walked out the bar. Never seen her again.
It's possible but you'd need to have more Thai language ability and cultural awareness than a typical visitor to suss out the good ones and most of those are not going to be found near Pattaya or be interested in a random middle age farang.
Great stories as always! We tend to ignore that fact that western men and Thai women are just wired differently and have NOTHING in common. 99% of all these "Relationships" end it a train wreck. Have your fun for 2 weeks, delete your Line ID contacts on the way to the airport, and then repeat next trip... Saves the headaches!
Only been here for a few months. Been to Costa Rica, Panama, Dominican Republic etc. 54 years old. The thing that I find odd is this. The men here are about the same age. With , I assume , the same experience with women of all kinds back home and perhaps abroad . But a lot seem to completely lose that experience here. And I understand why. It’s paradise. And it’s a younger beautiful woman selling you a dream. But you have to know. It’s just that. A dream. Not sure why some guys just don’t get that. Nothing here is as it seems. Nothing is black and white. The whole thing is grey Have fun. Enjoy what Thailand has to offer. Don’t over complicate your life. If your hand goes into your pocket here you have to open your eyes and pull your head out of your ass and know why and for what. Every single time. We are pretty much just a walking ATM to these people. And that’s not a slight towards Thais. It’s just the economics of the situation we are both in.
Exactly right. I had a buddy tell me a short story once. He said "ask a Thai girl where a foreigner's money comes from. They will say "ATM"". That little pearl of wisdom is profound and true. Puts your value into a brutal perspective.
SW Costa Rica here. That's the thing: once you realize that, The Kingdom's Pleasure Princesses have no Power over you. But, until then hahahaha Buena suerte
Exactly the same long game in Latin America. The only difference is that latínas want to move out of their countries while Thai want you to stay. Also I find Thai women pamper you more than latinas
@@titi7776 Right. Latinas can't carry a Thai (not sure about rest of SE Asia) woman's bags when it come to taking care of a man. Although the Thai's are much better at the game.
Funny thing about the weather, my Thai wife has been living with me in Melbourne since 2007 and she has become acclimatised to the cold weather whereas I hate it. I want to live in Thailand when I retire but she wants to stay in Melbourne.
Moved from Melbourne last year and much happier here. Cost of living, warm weather and chilled out people. Don't miss those dreary Melbourne days and stressed out people struggling to pay their mortgages.
i had a mate. married a thai lady. They were the same age. met in their 20's. she worked as a counter assistant in his local pharmacy. lived in phuket. after eight years and two sons. she ran off with a german fella because she thought he had lots of money. turns out he didn't, he was a 2 week millionaire bullshitter. My mate ended up buying his sons off his ex wife and moved to the UK. he did have them paternity tested to be sure, fortunately they were both his. I hear this story over and over and over again. Same game, just different players.
Beautifully delivered priceless advice, that couldn’t happen to me..? Gents, the “Good girl” remark is the biggest and most dangerous red flag of all. Many Thai women, may even have bona fide business’s but still freelance on the side. If there is the slightest hint of dishonesty, or enquiries regarding property or investments at home, get rid. I have learned to be ruthless, one way or another you are paying. Accept that if you don’t show out she’s moving on. My old fella once said to me… “Son, Women are like second hand motors… There’s always another just around the corner.! In Pattaya, she’s likely to be no more than 25m away. Enjoy ..
Don't exchange phone numbers Don't share social media links Don't take photos of/with them Don't send money Don't give extra money Don't say love stuff Don't show her pictures of your life Don't take her shopping Don't buy gold necklace Don't do anything until you've hardened up emotionally Do learn to say NO! Believe you me I made these mistakes.
I appreciate the tour / visuals / etc. whilst narrating the video. I’ve watched other videos by others, and they just sit in front of the camera. Kudos to you for creating content that is more aesthetically appealing.
@@stevekostakis2983 yeah ‘turn the screw’ slowly by saying things with money being the subject lol 😜. I told my gf from the outset , however deep we would maybe get , I’m not buying any house , land , buffalo or cow. I did help her by contributing to a shelter for said animals though 😅.. 🐄 🐃
Yep, juggling multiple boyfriends can be problematic - I've even heard stories of girls seeing off one boyfriend at the airport on his way out, and then, while still at the airport, meeting up with the next boyfriend in the arrivals hall on his way in!
Great video these are my favorite now that I live in Jomtien. I see the very thing you are talking about (the Long game) going on all around me. It is interesting to watch. Also helps to keep from falling into their traps.
I met a super nice bar girl there and when I was saying good bye on the second visit, she started saying, "I miss you" in this special voice and I was like, "does this usually work on guys" she was like :(( you too smart. hahaha yep I am. She was very good at making me feel special though and I will see her again.... 🤣
Around 9.04 mark who spotted the farang trying to give away money to the woman at the vegetable stand, thus perfectly illustrating how easy it is to trick these guys into playing the long game?
Great Post as always Daz, good job the second lady didn't go down the holiday route before deciding on the Auzzie guy, she would have had stamps in her passport to show she had been to Italy...unless she was as smart as some i know and "lost" the said passport 555
Thanks for the stories, very educative, the more I go to thailand and listen to stories from expats the more I get to the conclusion that GIK is the way to go
Another great video! I am sooo glad that someone explained to me how Thai girls are and had me read Private Dancer for some more insight before my first trip. I live in Costa Rica and have quite a bit of experience with the p4p scene, so I am not shy or ignorant when dealing with the girls. All I can say is: It is better to be the Hustler than the Hustled. But, I can also see how so many guys with no real experience are totally washed away. Many never had a beautiful woman dote on them and obviously find it pleasurable. I know I do and none do it better that the Thai Pleasure Princesses. The Kingdom has forever ruined me... 5555 Phuck! Love your walks through the markets. Amazing how many pretty women are out during the day! Can you maybe show more prices as you wander? Keep up the great work!
My Thai wife from Bangkok has been here in Massachusetts with me since 2003. She has plenty of Thai friends and the Wat Nawamintararachutis temple near by that she visits regularly. She also has plenty of traditional Thai food ingredients available from local Asian Markets to cook her spicy meals with😊. What ingredients she can't find here she has shipped here, or her and her Thai friends arrange to be transported when visiting Thailand. Today it's -7c, she and her many close friends are doing just fine. Although in the winter months, proper clothing, gloves, winter boots, etc, and a remote to per-warm vehicle is an absolute necessity for her😅 She does enjoy seeing the snow and watching snow storms from inside. The South Shore area of Massachusetts has a great Thai community. Her and I's long game has lasted 23 years now, with having 2 children together❤ She parties with all her Thai girls friends regularly, and they all seem very happy here in this cold weather state of Massachusetts USA.
Exactly, you can get anything here in the States ... and a pair of long silk underwear makes going outside almost pleasurable, aside from the fact that I've talked to a number of Thai who DON'T like the excessive heat of Thailand.
I never keep contact with any girl after the next morning. I just have my fun for a night and thats it. If you keep in touch you will be in a sponsorship zone simple is that. We dont know their backgrounds we dont live there we are tourists. Have fun and say bye till next visit!
Good stories and advice I like the "Thai Tales from a Hairdresser,,," Just because she works in a coffee shop, Pharmacy, 7-11...etc. does NOT necessarily mean NICE GIRL/. You are right - she could have as many as 4 or more guys in her long Game scams. Or she could be a Free Lancer by night...
Haha 555 Being poor, still married legally, non-generous, and enjoying women 30+ years younger keeps me sane and untouchable for these scams....almost. During Covid "wasted " 100k baht more than I should have on a lovely Thai lady over a year or so.... Oh well, have many photos and videos to remember her by.... Have lived here 5 years so not the same as guys on holiday. Peace and Love everyone
To be fair, i understand girls in Thailand who play the long game and have a few guys on the hoook. Their target is to secure income and to support their families. But ofcourse once it is getting serious with one guy, the others have to be and i believe normally will be dropped. Same like guys who "try out" a few girlfriends until they commit. I think not only a Thai topic, but a topic for everywhere on the world.
Not a Thai girl, but a Filipina - I'd arranged an intimate few days away with her on the island of Boracay, but she cancelled at the last minute saying that her father had just died; I ended up going on my own. More recently she told me she's looking after her sick father - it's a miracle! Funny thing is she's neither a freelancer nor a bar girl; in all the years I've known her, I've never given her any money.
I tell the girls "i know the score" and after that they always relax and everything becomes alot more fun :) I allow them to talk to their sponsors at night, it`s super fun to listen to and they usually don´t try to over charge either! One girl had to punch me one night because i could not hold my laugh back. Shut up she whispered. After the phone call we laughed together and did the dance :D
Ask yourself how often do they take selfie photos of the two of you together and do they appear on their Facebook page and other social media, Line etc? Or is their Facebook page mystifyingly totally void of any photos showing her with Any other males?!
@@JomtienCyclist Yes exactly! I’ve been that dumb faring too! For a time there just about every photo she put on Facebook was of her and the food from different restaurants I had taken her to - but I was never anywhere to be seen! Anyway glad you’ve found a genuine one who obviously doesn’t have anything to hide!
Now I've never been to Thailand or any where else for that matter, but one thing i must recommend is for the lads is get the the snip, it doesn't affect your Manhood , it makes you more confidant that you don't get anyone up the stick
If you go with a "non bar girl" and think you are getting free sex, think again. Likely to be the most expensive option. Remember, Nothing is Free, especially in Thailand. Cynical maybe, but if you meet a girl outside the bar environment, fine- can be great, but in the back of your mind ask yourself what will this really cost me, and can I afford it.
Been there... completely hooked from the love-bombing, visits to Udon & all that. The money pitch came six months in, about the car she had bought for her parents while married living in Netherlands being repo'd after she returned to Thailand, and she was taken to court for the balance of the debt, 40k baht. I went into shock over this unbelievable RFM, never thought of asking for documentation, and ditched her immediately. First girl I met in Nana Plaza that night could have been her twin.
I had a similar story in Poland (I am Polish living in the UK) she had 2 other "boyfriends", luckily she didn't choose me :) and she wasn't a freelancer (it's just how women do it) ;)
I dont understand why guys put themselves in situation like finding a partner in a gigantic brothel. A place all ods are against you. You can be Lucky im not saying its impossible. You can fall out of a 10 store Building and survive but why take the risk?
I’ve been living in Pattaya for over a year now, and I’ve never been stupid enough to let any of these women get inside my head….though many have tried. In fact I’m sick of the girlfriends of my acquaintances constantly trying to act as matchmakers, no doubt for the very reasons you describe. In their eyes, that is your only purpose here…..money. If you need a root that badly, pay for play and walk away. There are many other pursuits to keep one occupied in Pattaya beyond pussy.
So very true. You're just an ATM and if you're not spitting out money then you're "broken" to them. I feel bad for the men who get love-scammed but at some point we need to wise up and realize we're all being played. Have fun and move on to the next one.
It is a mistake to make a girl from Pattaya your friend. Or nearby areas. The best and safest thing is to go north to one of the small towns or villages and search until you find what you want, and to be a very ordinary person who does not show wealth or money. If she continues like this and she accepts you, this is evidence that she is a good girl, and you should continue with her in any city you want. There must be a lot. Of time and seriousness..
Everything Pattaya, you just described most women in the western world as well. No, it's not "that's Thailand guys", it more like "that's women in today's world guys", Lol. Most western women, especially if they're attractive, have high body counts but play the good girl if they set their sights on a wealthy guy. I know women who say they have to check out a guys finances and assets before they they waste time on them, I live in Canada. In todays world, you'll be hard pressed to find genuine so-called good girls, and all women seek out rich guys. Welcome to planet earth.
Brilliant video Daz as I mentioned I’m in Pattaya on holiday and seeing this game or better yet scam, play out all around me here.I just shake my head and say nothing but I know what’s coming their way. It’s a shame really.
We need to look at this differently and harness this amazing skill these ladies have in keeping so many balls in the air at the same time. They would make great Project Managers!! From what I’ve seen, some of these really cold-hearted calculating girls have enormous focus and drive to get the job done. Imagine harassing this for good instead of evil? 😅
Very interesting videoclip - Reality and Truth 100% - Thau Girls especially in Pattaya are far better actors than those you see in Hollywood Movies .... Everything you said is everyday stories of relationships and friendships in Pattaya ... its All about the Money. And no matter how much stories you hear their first priorities are Money and their Family ... You`d be lucky to come Third in her priorities - Dont fall for these traps guys - Just visit Pattaya yearly or twice yearly and have lots of fun and thats it - Obey the 3 day rule and if it was in my opinion Id say 3 days is already a lot - 1 day and change girl ... thats how you should enjoy and stay away from annoying drama and hassle in Thailand - Keep these videos coming they do teach a lot especially to first time visitors to Pattaya - Easy naive prey for Pattaya Girls
Thanks for this. Currently approaching 3rd month of being long gamed. A few warning signs. Video really highlighted some dangers. Wish me luck because I am going to need it.
used to have a buriram female friend (hot 24 year old gogo dancer pre-obesity era) that had multiple sponsors and used to come to my place to hang out and at the time i assumed she simply liked me as no money involved. there were times she got a long distance phone call and i went to another room and closed the door. never forget the time she asked me which one of two guys she should marry. she showed me photos of their houses and cars and i asked her which one does she have the deepest feeling for but back to cars and houses as if it were a pure business decision. she went to USA but time flies and a couple of years later she left the US and was back at a bar in bangkok.
PS; after living in thailand many years (girl stuff gets old and boring) the best thing about visiting pattaya is all the indian restaurants and food variety, western as well.
Great advice you can never give enough of Daz!👍. Wherever I may travel I always recite this mantra just before arrival. "Men fall in love. Women are in business"🤑. If I end up on the Thai lady's list, what happens if I lose my turn?🤔🤣🤣🤣
All my friends told me "just find a regular girl who works as a nurse or in a bank or at the mall etc." In my experience, if they're remotely beautiful enough to have justified you moving half way around the planet to pursue, they have worked the sex industry in the past, currently work in the sex industry, or will at some point in the near future begin working in the sex industry. If she's beautiful there's no getting around it.
Some good advice there, I'm just back from Pattaya and keeping in touch with a freelancer whom i spent 5 days with, let's see if she's playing the 'Long game'.
The real question is whether the game and the freelancing both end when becoming a couple (married or not) begins. Finding the answer could be risky and expensive. Not finding the answer is advisable but might be a missed opportunity if you actually want to remove her from Pattaya and change both of your lives a lot.
Papa hab hemloid.....can come 2 welek?....😢😊.....btw, Gold Coast of Australia is about 70 km south of Brisbane.....not up north......😂 (unless you mean north of Sydney.....).
Knew of a 40ish Thai girl, still looked, good, who managed to successfully juggle three sponsors who visited Bangkok at nearly the same time. Changed her condo locks, some family problems to explain sudden absences- and the money kept coming. This is Thailand, 555!
Story about a girl deciding whether to marry in Italy or Australia.. They are so skilled at this game but on the other hand need basic common logic advice (take vacation in both and see what you like)...
