How Does The AE86 Compare To Its Modern Counterpart? 

The gt86 came with the skinny tires so it didn’t need all the power in the world to get sideways. Which it does nicely

If you are not blowing up your 4AGE engine, you are not doing it right

The prius tires was to make the car easy to slide, and the tyres ''cheap'' to replace !

Both cars have their weakness mainly speed, but they have enough character and charm to make weebs scream for generations to come

Your heel and toe is majestically fast, and consistent. I love it.

That's great and all, but how do they compare when you have to deliver tofu in a hurry? :thinking:

[1:53] "In terms of cornering characteristics, you're already seeing them; the car likes to slide... *(Initial D flashbacks)* [2:00] ...but that's how get the speed out of it." ん- 何！？ 慣性ドリフト！？

The beauty of both these cars IRL is how enjoyable they are to drive at the limit, not their quantity of performance. The MX5 shares this trait. I wish more people understood that.

*eurobeat intensifies*

The fantastic handling of the gt86 comes to action when you start trying really hard to squish every tenth of second off your laptime. It's one of the most enjoyable s cars to drive on the edge by default on AC. I wouldn't recommend eco tyres though...

You're shifting too early and selecting too high a gear coming out of the corners. It's a digital engine, you're not going to hurt it.

Should have used the gutters more...

Weren't the Prius tires put on the GT86 because they had almost no grip and made it slide easily?

jimi boradubentou: 68 is the main character in initial d takumi: *clueless keisuke: YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR MOUTH

the AE86 would have won if you had utilized the 'Fujiwara zone'

You don't "drive" an AE86 Corolla, you commune with it; everything the car doesn't have (ABS, TCS, power steering) is what makes it special. That sacrosanct place we as auto enthusiasts don't get anymore, where it truly is just you and your machine; that missing other-half with no buffers in between you and the car. It's hard to explain without sounding like a total loon. I love mine (non-running...I bought it non-running, its been a project car), even never having driven it yet...the more I work on it, the more I fall in love with it, the more my anticipation grows...longing for that experience of pure mechanical joy I haven't experienced yet in my life, and count myself fortunate to have a car that will eventually deliver me to that end. I know I sound like a total nut-job just my two-cents.

that live axel really just wants to drift

a lot of time was being lost in the GT86 when you shift early at 7k, dropping your revs down below 5.5k where there is a severe lack of torque

Is there the same video on this track with 1st gen mx5 with 1.6 vs. modern mx5 with 2.0 engine?

currently there are two models of the AE86 that i built sitting in front of my tv. One of them is Takumi's, and the other is a stock red one. If that isn't weeb enough for you, I also have Mako's Sileighty sitting atop of my stereo. :P

1. with my setup you would be 1 maybe 1.5 sekonds faster 2. you have to roll the water

The goal of the stock 86 in assetto is to drive it the hardest you possibly can. The live axle is a bit wonky and if you dont keep power to the wheels it could easily slide out. Due to the live axle the rear also hops quite a bit through the corners, which can be annoying. The GT86 is a well balanced car in the game and it's fairly easy to drive, decent cornering with the right setup aswell.

Old car vs new car is a great concept for a video series. I’d like to see you try old and new F1 cars, old and new LMPs and old and new GT cars on various tracks. Keep it up, love the videos Jimmy!

I raced a 1984 AE86 with the Panda paint scheme, for 3 years in SCCA and NCSCC in the California San Francisco Region and that is heavy competition. I won 7 Championships in 3 years including the SCCA Regional and the SCCA Divisional along with The Northern California Sports Car Council Series Championship for 2 years running.. I loved the old version. I could do almost anything in that car. It was just plain great. I scared myself in it more than once. One of the best times was at Sears Point International Raceway in 1991. Good to see it is in a sim. I may have to get the sim just to race like old times.

I've driven a friend's GT86 with the stock skinnies and then bigger wheels, much more fun on the stock ones. Could really get the car to move around on demand at lower, safer speeds and was massively predictable. Should have had an option for wider rubber, but I can see why people raved about the skinny tires, great car to learn car control. Great fun but still safe. Reminded me of a modern MK1 MX but with harder springs and dampers.

BRZ B: Boxer engine R: RWD Z: Zenith of drifting (hence the Prius tires to make the rear skid about)

Jimmy, New GT86 was shipped with Prius tires so you can ROAST THEM OFF and stick it to a all them Prius'es or Pre'i ... Also I think it had something to do with the limited grip and rolling resistance from the prius tire which would allow a 200hp car to slide and drive like it has 60more HP because it doesnt have super grippy tires.

You know what the new 86 cannot do... Deliver Tofu.

never clicked anything so fast

Will you do more Beamng?

This is a GREAT idea for a new series! VW GTi Mk1 vs new etc. Do it!

I'm glad we're using a video game to make comparisons on these two cars. Good comparison.

I didn't notice but really nice T-shirt 👀

Original is much lighter and has much more exciting engine, new GT86 is meh in comparison On other hand new ND Mazda mx-5 is much more closer spec wise to the original NA Miata.

It's a drifting car still, that's why you've got the thin wheels. Meant to fling it around, not get crazy lap times.

They used Prius tyres purely because it meant it wasn't too grippy, meaning you can feel the chassis and balance work.

Idk if this was actually the case irl since I haven’t handled an AE86 myself. But in the anime, the car boasted it’s handling during downhill races in mountain passes. It uses the slope to go fast and oversteer to lose minimal speed during entry and exit of very tight corners. I feel like putting it in a wide and flat track, with uphill parts mind you, is kinda bit unfair for showcasing the strength of the car (as portrayed in the show that is).

The old car had a live rear axle and a terrible lack of corner exit traction on any less than smooth surface thanks to all that unsprung weight.

The Prius tires are so the manufacturer can increase the fuel mileage rating. The second you put a sport tire on the car you lose a couple mpg. It's an old truck auto manufacturers use to say their car gets better mpg than reality.

Please mirror the main camera. I am falling out of my chair here when you are turning corners :P

Thanks for the awesome vid Jimmy. Loving yer work Mr Jimboi😉

Hi jimmy, lately i was wondering how fast the gns longboi can lap around the isle of man circuit xd

Honestly I suck with traction control and stability control systems. It’s difficult because it’s doing the work for you and it does what I don’t want it to do often. It’s cool if you use those systems tho I don’t really care as long as I don’t get bumped into

that was very cool video. I enjoyed it very much. You should do more comparison videos of old vs. new car. You sir, just earned a new subscriber. :)

Man: let's test these ae86's *didn't drift around a single corner*

The tires are ecos so there’s not much grip on the rears, making it easier to slide. They actually chose oversteer over handling. In the end, that’s what fans of the 86 wanted, right?

this is the vid that got me subscribed to mr jimmer shedderbent

I can get the AE86 also around in 1:11:500 with 10 laps. Tbh you can brake much later in the AE86 then in the Gt86 but the GT86 has a little more power to weight. I think if you race them both the AE86 might be 0.4 sec slower but it depends on the driver because you need to keep momentum something manny drivers in games and in real dont get. Nice video!

The GT86 is currently the main car of MF Ghost, the sequel manga with the main character is a student of Takumi

Nice video, Jimmy, I would try to do something like this for other car families such as the Honda Civic and the Mazda MX-5. Sky's the limit there :)

1:41 Tokyo never sleeps

I can hear Tsuchiya-san shouting at the computer screen when he done the laps in the Hachi.

NICE SHIRT JIMMEH

Mostly offtopic from this video, sorry! But would love a Tips and Recommendations for tuning and technique for a Initial D style of racing in Forza Horizon 4. Sort of grippy but taking corners in a slide along the racing line. I'm new to the FH series, only having played the original Motorsport way-back-when, and being a setup noob I've been making use of Forzatune 6 and 7 to reasonably positive success, but it still isn't quite right and would love some hints. Most drift tune videos/guides are those that whack in about 1000bhp, cause a lot of smoke but don't really go anywhere fast. I'm making replicas of the Takahashi brothers RX-7s, getting the stats of each car as close to the anime version as possible. For example, my Keisukes First Stage RX-7 aims for 335bhp, and his Fourth Stage one aims for 443bhp. So, realistic, and not massive power. Just would love your take on something like that.

I really liked it so I hit subscribe. Like 2 years ago or something :)

This track is a lot of fun.

Why isn't there a key in the ignition?

hey jimmy, ive been very happy supporting you on patreon and ive always found it very cool to see my namein the endslate of the video but recently that hasnt been the case anymore, are there too many people to fit into the endslate?

For me its a nice car i like it i also happen to like initial d but i liked drifting before i knew about it and the car drifting

Your videos are awesome keep up the good work

can you do a hot lap with a eurobeat just a comparison if eurobeat music make you drive even faster...

Woah the weeb car

Tsuchiya didnt invent Drifting He is just the king of it

everyone says AE86 like it'ts a completely different model in Toyota's line even though AE86 is just chassis code for the corolla, but i guess its easier to reffer to corollas by their chassis code

Great video jimmer very interesting

Jimmy if you could, would you mind adding in the description a link to the MOD cars you use in your vids. I'd love to use some of the awesome cars you drive in

the prius tyres are thin. This makes drifting easier. This is what makes the GT86 so driftable and cool.

One other useful data in the comparation is the average speed of the track, so what is the track lenght ? A heavier car can not be faster everywhere :)

Lol the internet explorer logo in the GT-86

i think topgear put it best: the gt86 launched with prius tires so that it's way easier to hoon

Definiton of AE86: this car is so much fun, everyone who drive it say that, even on a simulation, who can't translate the smeel, the aura of it, everyone accord to the amount of fun, this car is more fun than gtr Horse power potential

An italvolanti admiral would have shaved a couple of seconds off from the AE86 lap.

Jomble Brassbont, there's not a video of yours i won't click like on, but I think with the plethora of "remastered" cars coming out these days you should make a load more of these old ew comparisons at maybe...Zolder

The eight tens is a yoke! Seiously though, in downhill racing, the old one is sure to beat the nee

Great Video!

I reckon the new 86 should have came with a turbo. I know someone who owns one and he said it had no balls what so ever. I mean yeah it's designed around handling, but some power would be nice.

Dori Dori didn’t invent drifting he just made it popular

Nice shirt jimmy 👍🏻

The car doesn’t actually come with Prius tires though.

I'm guessing they just put prius tyres on as standard to please the regulators, they only look at economy stats of the car as it is sold as standard so a slight improvement in economy per car lowers their average eco-footprint throughout their entire product range, similar to why there are cars with 2 totally unusable seats in the back (lowers insurance risk category vs selling it as a 2 seater from the factory), "hey look at our sports car it's got eco friendly tyres *please don't tax us*"

Hi so I am fairly new to sim racing, my rig is coming and I dont know what sim game to buy, should I get project cars 2 or Assetto Corsa I want to get project cars 2 because it looks amazing in vr but assetto corsa seems to have more content, better online and more realism.

Keiichi didn’t invent drifting he made it popular

Great video!

You should try this vs again now that it’s been a year and probably your skills are better

GRIP STYLE FTW

I don't know about you but i don't hate the gt86. Many people are sad because it is slow on the straights but that's not the point of the car, right?

The dislikes are from Keisuke, Ryosuke, Kenta, Takeshi, Shingo, Wateru, Seiji, and a whole bunch of others I can’t be assed to name.

VIDEO JIMMY OPTION V.1

I own both of these cars IRL, I know this is a sim but the GT is much faster than my Sprinter. I have a huge feeling you're not driving the GT properly, the GT and Sprinter can't be driven the same at all. When I say much faster I mean MUCH faster, my local track times are a good 10-15% faster than when I do them in my Sprinter.

Where is the speed chime of the AE86?

Wonder how the tuned version would compare... Hmmm 🤔🤔

for Xmas could you do a video where you sing Deja Vu? we would love it :)

Finally Jimmer!

can anybody tell me，what track is it? i want to find it,but don't know the name of this track.thanks

Ah yes, the famous Panda torino

There are 2 mistakes being made in this vid. 1- No Eurobeat 2- No Drifting (which is where the car shines)

Bunta Fujiwara: You Doesnt teach the AE86 the AE86 teach your R.I.P Bunta 2018 😥

prius tyres have no grip and slide easier so it increases the fun factor for people who arent tracking their car which is the majority of gt86 owners lol

I want to know where Jimmy got the t-shirt from?

Hey jimmer you should compare your mx5 and your 350z in assetto corsa