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How Dumbledore DEFEATED Grindelwald and Why He Never Went to Azkaban - Harry Potter Explained 

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Hey guys, welcome to another installment of Harry Potter Theory. In this video, we’ll be tackling a couple of questions, the first being ‘how did dumbledore defeated gellert grindelwald’, and the second question being - why didn’t Grindelwald go to Azkaban? We know Gellert Grindelwald as one of the darkest and most powerful wizards of all time, considered by most to be second to only Lord Voldemort in terms of sheer power (as far as dark wizards go). "In a list of Most Dangerous Dark Wizards of All Time, he would miss out on the top spot only because You-Know-Who arrived, a generation later, to steal his crown," Rita Skeeter wrote. Grindelwald was born in the year 1883, and in his younger years he was a student at Durmstrang institute. While attending the school, Grindelwald’s sadistic nature shone through, and he was expelled for experimenting with twisted and dark magic.
When he left school, Grindelwald met a young Albus Dumbledore, and the two spent every minute together. I think that the magical power of each young man can be partly attributed to the time that they spent with each other. Though Dumbledore and Grindelwald were close, there was definitely a crossroads where the two began to go down very different paths. It was Grindelwald’s intention to find the deathly Hallows, then lead a wizarding revolution that would effectively put an end to the international statute of secrecy, breaking down the ‘secretive’ divide between the two worlds. This revolution would create a global power hierarchy that would place powerful witches and wizards at the top of the food chain, effectively giving them full control of muggles and muggle affairs. Dumbledore and Grindelwald parted ways after a three-way duel that also involved Abeforth(Dumbledore’s brother). The duel resulted in the death of Albus’s sister, Ariana, and it effectively put an end to their relationship.
At the height of Grindelwald’s power, he was seemingly unstoppable, with an army of fanatics, and the possession of the elder wand, there was only one person who could stop him. Dumbledore.
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@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory 4 года назад
Hey everyone, thanks for watching! If you enjoy the videos please remember to like and subscribe. What happened in their duel? Did the Elder Wand betray Grindelwald during his duel with Dumbledore? Or was he simply overpowered regardless?
@NEXUS_VSTGN
@NEXUS_VSTGN 4 года назад
It could be that the elderwand migth have more personality than the basic wands and choose Dumbledore
@NEXUS_VSTGN
@NEXUS_VSTGN 4 года назад
Maybe it even comes to love Dumbledore fighted for the good to protect people and some of his loved ones he didn't want the wand for power or kill anyone he used it for the good and with respect and superior skill maybe that's why elder wand would choose him
@dustgreylynx
@dustgreylynx 4 года назад
DUmbledore will fail to destroy the Blood Pact, and th's why it will take him so long. In the end he will sacrifize Credence and use some magical beasts and other third means, not the spells, to disarm and capture Grindelwald. We even get a hint from Newt, when the sniffler steals the Blood Pact, that there are things GG doesn't understand or tends to ignore, just like Voldemort underestimated love
@rudraksh.sharma
@rudraksh.sharma 4 года назад
I love your videos and your content
@shuvamacharya8001
@shuvamacharya8001 4 года назад
@@dustgreylynx well that would be boring then
@milners2053
@milners2053 4 года назад
99% sure Dumbledore used "Eat Slugs" to defeat Grindelwald!
@Barry.Mckockiner135
@Barry.Mckockiner135 4 года назад
😭😭😭
@Ican474
@Ican474 4 года назад
Hahaha, silly
@davislad2700
@davislad2700 4 года назад
That is funny 😂🤣
@sashisingh4010
@sashisingh4010 4 года назад
Haha lol so true!
@tammyyard1217
@tammyyard1217 4 года назад
Priceless!
@NEXUS_VSTGN
@NEXUS_VSTGN 4 года назад
I really hope we get to see a epic battle between them in the fantastic beast 3 or 4
@samalmo-milkin161
@samalmo-milkin161 4 года назад
Peadrian Last name there are only gonna be 5 movies
@baconboi4482
@baconboi4482 4 года назад
NEXUS I wish the movies would focus on beasts again and newt and not this story that has already ended
@samalmo-milkin161
@samalmo-milkin161 4 года назад
Bacon Boi well jk Rowling just wants to milk the franchise dry
@NEXUS_VSTGN
@NEXUS_VSTGN 4 года назад
@@baconboi4482 their are many possibilities with the magical world JK have created she could make charecter movie back stories and before time like she did with the fantastic beast before Voldemort and Harry Potter But JK seems tired of it or just lazy or just don't have the mind and interests any longer But if she is gonna stop making movies and books about the migical world I'm glad if we get the history of Grindelwald and Dumbledore mixed with Newt and the migical creatures
@EnjoyingEnjoyer
@EnjoyingEnjoyer 4 года назад
@@baconboi4482 newt is nobody and therefore not interesting
@amandadiko2386
@amandadiko2386 4 года назад
Honestly, Grindelwald was a better villain that Voldemort!
@birdiec
@birdiec 3 года назад
True, voldy was selfish. He wanted immortality and power for himself. Grindelwald wanted power, yes, but he wanted to free his people from centuries of oppresion and secrecy.
@brickwall6247
@brickwall6247 3 года назад
The only reason Voldemort is seen as stronger is because he wanted to be a selfish tyrant who is feared by everyone...but Grindelwald didn't want...he did everything for the greater good ( according to him )
@limitless4375
@limitless4375 3 года назад
I kinda like grindelwald... I mean he has bad ideas but he is really cool.
@adityaahuja8282
@adityaahuja8282 3 года назад
Never bro 👍🏿👍🏿
@thegryffinclaw7541
@thegryffinclaw7541 3 года назад
agree
@gchk1349
@gchk1349 4 года назад
Saying that Dumbledore was the yin to Grindelwald's yang is an obvious yet common mistake. Yin means shady, dark and negative (black colour), while yang means sunny, bright and positive (white colour). Thus, Dumbledore is the yang to Grindelwald's yin, provided of course that Dumbledore represents the good side of magic.
@snehalmishra5429
@snehalmishra5429 4 года назад
That scene when Dumbledore puts Water on Fire 🔥 🔥 shows how powerful wizard he was
@DestinyCrafter
@DestinyCrafter 4 года назад
In the cave? He didn't burn water, just put the flames right above it to keep the Inferi away.
@snehalmishra5429
@snehalmishra5429 4 года назад
@@DestinyCrafter Harry was taken deep inside the water by that creatures and it was the flame which burnt them inside the water
@DestinyCrafter
@DestinyCrafter 4 года назад
@@snehalmishra5429 Only in the movie. From the book: "But then, through the darkness, fire erupted: crimson and gold, a ring of fire that surrounded the rock so that the Inferi holding Harry so tightly stumbled and faltered; they did not dare pass through the flames to get to the water. They dropped Harry; he hit the ground, slipped on the rock and fell, grazing his arms..."
@snehalmishra5429
@snehalmishra5429 4 года назад
@@DestinyCrafter I was talking about movie bro I never read the book BTW thanks for describing the book version of this 👍
@DestinyCrafter
@DestinyCrafter 4 года назад
@@snehalmishra5429 Fair enough ✌️I admit that with Harry, books being canon while Newt's canon being the films it gets weird x) No problem :)
@clydekkamanaful
@clydekkamanaful 2 года назад
Dumbledore had a Berretta in his left hand as he had Grindewald watching the wand in his right hand like a true magician.
@nikofaershee4235
@nikofaershee4235 4 года назад
He used the most powerful magic of all: love 😏
@squashy9100
@squashy9100 4 года назад
I hope that's what happens, dumbledore has always said love is the strongest magic ever❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤
@austinbate5107
@austinbate5107 4 года назад
Certain images just appeared in my head
@zerosaber257
@zerosaber257 4 года назад
Nah
@doapin6240
@doapin6240 3 года назад
Probably because Dumbledore was gay (no joke)
@nikofaershee4235
@nikofaershee4235 3 года назад
@@doapin6240 that's the joke
@nicoichan8144
@nicoichan8144 4 года назад
I really want to see the battle between the two and their relationship throughout the years.
@Ender.wigginn
@Ender.wigginn 3 года назад
I bet the fight ends with Dumbledore catching Grindelwald with a simple spell, such as expelliarmus, albeit after the two great wizards match against one another with some pretty amazing magic. I say this, bc the two men had some romance in their youth and while Grindelwald is a dark wizard, he does know love and may still hold onto hope for Dumbledore. Also, both wizards possess powerful spells that would certainly kill the other if not blocked, and if Grindelwald blocks such a spell cast by Dumbledore, it is unlikely to win Dumbledore the duel and thereby the loyalty of the elder wand.
@christopherweaver5904
@christopherweaver5904 4 года назад
I hope they make a movie , just purely of the duel . I want 3 hours straight of special effects . Non stop .
@Reliavl
@Reliavl 4 года назад
I kinda don’t want the duel to start off with just “avadakedavra” and “expeliarmus” crossing, I want it to be something new and old. In other words, I want to see a 10 minute duel with a ton of special effects.
@SharkfightersSH
@SharkfightersSH 3 года назад
Yes! Make that shit cost a fortune and make it WORTH it! I'm talking Unicorninvasion of Dundee- style Fireball rain and and whole bolders flinged at each other. When two of the greatest elemental mages of all times collide, it has to make the final fight of ATLA look like a friendly handshake between rivals.
@mikelombard21
@mikelombard21 2 года назад
Not even to mention, that he cast firestorm to ward off the inferi, after he drank the emerald potion and was asking/begging harry to help him reach his wand. The next moment, he is on both feet casting firestorm to save their lives. What a awesome display of magic. Its a shame the movies did not show his power more often. Something simple like conjuring chairs when Harry was on trial, would require a lot of CGI, so I respect their choices. However Dumbledore is truly in a league of his own.
@ScarletKitty90
@ScarletKitty90 4 года назад
Amazing video! Love all the information. I didn't know quite a lot of it, very interesting. Wouldn't it be interesting/ironic if the spell Dumbledore used was expelliarmus to finally defeat Grindelwald. Keep up your great work with your content ⚡💗. Stay safe everyone💓.
@michaeltrinh4394
@michaeltrinh4394 2 года назад
1:47 my phone cut out, and I thought, yep, many good friends part ways after a threeway.
@imaheadout457
@imaheadout457 4 года назад
We have only seen the consequence of a bloodpact. But how does it really work? All we know is that the two Wizards that binded with it cannot fight or exchange spells. But exactly how? Does it nullify their spell when directed to each other? Does it create a shield between them?
@luigidavola7873
@luigidavola7873 4 года назад
It makes their spells bounce off each other which is why GrinderWald s spell bounced off to Dumbledore sister
@chanjob3850
@chanjob3850 4 года назад
You have a video of the theory of Dumbledore being death? I’d love to see your version of it. Couldn’t stand some of the other videos commentaries on theory’s
@sandro5535
@sandro5535 4 года назад
Why was both old and young Grindelwald normal looking but middle age Grindelwald like "durp!"
@StarbitO
@StarbitO 2 года назад
emo midlife crisis phase
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai 4 года назад
He was not sent to Azkaban because he was not a brit
@elyk7425
@elyk7425 4 года назад
I though Grindelwald went to Azkaban, because I am sure Voldemort confronted him in Azkaban about the elder wand.
@elyk7425
@elyk7425 4 года назад
Gamernetic Ik, but i put that before I watched the video and never got round to deleting it
@Eurisko1975
@Eurisko1975 2 года назад
Rita Skeeter isn't exactly the best judge to determine who between Voldemort and Grindenwald was more powerful. At best hers was an opinion. Dumbledore himself consider Grindenwald his equal and we all know how Voldemort effectively lost to an old and tired Dumbledore who was distracted by his side task of protecting Harry Potter while dueling Voldemort.
@charlieclark9552
@charlieclark9552 4 года назад
Expelliarmus, incarsurus, disarm and bind, and what I dont understand is why did grindlewald give up, it's not like his powers were taken away, he was just disarmed and bound in rope
@ninclow5421
@ninclow5421 4 года назад
Roughly thirty Aurors is what he contended with in FB1. In FB2, the script identifies it as Theseus Scamander leading fifty Aurors.
@richardgivher835
@richardgivher835 4 года назад
I don't think he actually defeats Grindelwald. Well, not by himself. You can't beat an unbeatable wand, right? I think it's pretty clear to see that he's going to use Newt's animals to distract him. Or perhaps Dumbledore is the distraction. I even think that an obscuris may be used in the fight at some point, rendering it no longer a duel, but just that, a FIGHT! Making it now a beatable wand.
@redhunter8731
@redhunter8731 4 года назад
You actually can. History of the wand has shown that. Raw power doesn't translate to skill. It just creates an edge in an otherwise close fight/lets the user overpower most wizards/witches he would face.
@richardgivher835
@richardgivher835 4 года назад
@@redhunter8731 Where could I find the history of the wand and who owned it and how it was taken from them?
@redhunter8731
@redhunter8731 4 года назад
@@richardgivher835 it's a combo of the books and Pottermore. If you do some digging on Google you can find sites/videos that assemble all of it for you.
@richardgivher835
@richardgivher835 4 года назад
@@redhunter8731 I thought I remember Super Carlin Brothers here on RU-vid going over the wand's ownership history, but I don't think it ever got beat. I'm not certain but wasn't it always stolen or it's owner killed in one way or another outside of a duel? Not actually in combat like the "Unbeatable Wand" title suggests?
@MonographicSingleheaded
@MonographicSingleheaded Год назад
dunno if that is possible but I believe Grindelwald was inspired by Dumbledore’s sister to lead the revo, and that death was an accident, that pushed both of them in two different directions. basically one became a hero, and one became a villain that day. out of grief.
@MonographicSingleheaded
@MonographicSingleheaded Год назад
also as they were once best friends I believe Grindlewald couldnt just off Dumbledore which made the duel that much more painful for both of them.
@mzansimomentsreloaded913
@mzansimomentsreloaded913 3 года назад
Now we may never see Johnny Depp take part in this duel thanks to Amber...which is rather sad cos he played Grindelwald so well.
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 3 года назад
It's a shame Colin Farrel didn't get more time playing him either.
@atreestump
@atreestump 4 года назад
I would like to see if Dumbledore has a counter for the spell Grindelwald used at the end of Beasts 2
@darkseeker9548
@darkseeker9548 2 года назад
He used the most powerful spell imaginable… Sunshine, daisies, butter mellow Turn grindlewald into yellow jello
@TyingSaturn
@TyingSaturn 4 года назад
How could the duel between Grindelwald, Dumbledore, and Aberforth have happened if the blood pact was in place? Was it created after out of guilt? Or is JK just creating more inconsistencies?
@gulzaibkhan6913
@gulzaibkhan6913 4 года назад
It was created perhaps after this duel which we still have'nt seen in the FB movies..Lets wait for it :)
@michaelmichaelagnew8503
@michaelmichaelagnew8503 4 года назад
You have a point Dumbledore moved on from Grindelwald after that since the duel killed his sister. Since they dueled it had to happen afterwards but they were an impasse because of that duel and moved on from each other. So it doesn't make sense for the blood pact to happen afterward. I hope she comes up with an explanation that makes sense.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 3 года назад
Maybe they duelled despite the bloodpackt and in it they both discovered they couldn't harm each other. Even that if they tried, spells would bounce off and harm others. Dumbledore trying to kill Grindelwald and a backfire kills Ariane
@firefire7529
@firefire7529 3 года назад
@@edopronk1303 Or what if they can duel despite the blood pact, but similarly to liquid luck (potion that makes things automatically go your way), the blood pact always produces bad luck or tragedies that stick for the rule breakers entire life if broken, and when they dueled the blood pact caused Ariana’s death to occur?
@stevenbaker8184
@stevenbaker8184 3 года назад
@@firefire7529 now that's interesting, good thought. Because dying really is not in as much a curse. But bearing the guilt of harming or killing a loved one for a lifetime,on the other hand. Unless one is a complete sociopath That requires some thought.
@harshrajsharma5050
@harshrajsharma5050 4 года назад
Dumbledore definitely used rictusempra (the tickling charm) to defeat grindlewald
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
LMAO
@chiefgitsu
@chiefgitsu 4 года назад
thought the same
@asvarien
@asvarien Год назад
Thought you had to defeat the previous owner of the Elder wand to gain it's allegiance? Stealing it in the middle of the night doesn't sound like it'd do it.
@couch.patati-patata
@couch.patati-patata 3 года назад
I think a bounced curse hit an overhead tree branch, and it fell on Grindlewald's head.
@ivomollov3073
@ivomollov3073 3 года назад
Is it just me or Grindlewald reminds heavily on Vergil from the Devil May Cry series?
@btarik.maulana4199
@btarik.maulana4199 3 года назад
OMG THANK YOU I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!
@kevinkevarson9513
@kevinkevarson9513 2 года назад
A combo of both the Elder Wand betraying Grindelwald and Dumbledore using a spell involving some thing no one else has.. A Phoenix
@huggles1939
@huggles1939 4 года назад
Big oof to Grindelwald
@ladanski
@ladanski Год назад
The fact that we will not see this duel on the big screen really pisses me off.
@theos943
@theos943 4 года назад
AND THEY WHERE GAY, AND I LOVE IT
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
Imagine, two of the most powerful wizards having some sweet lovey dovey moments behind closed doors lol...
@theos943
@theos943 4 года назад
@krish kun girl, we know that jk is crazy, but gay is always right
@StarbitO
@StarbitO 2 года назад
them being gay is based obviously but wasn't their relationship like toxic and manipulative af??
@Scooperman29
@Scooperman29 3 года назад
I honestly don't even think Dumbledore beat Grindwald by pure magical might or skill. I think he outsmarted him.
@sarathyraghav8527
@sarathyraghav8527 Год назад
im really disappointed that we didn't get to see their duel on the big screen-it would possibly more epic than the duel with voldemort in the ministry... also no disrespect to the actor who played grindelwald after depp, but it just wasn't iconic. disappointed wit the production... but thanks for the explanation
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Год назад
Sad that we will never get to see the fight unfold in the big screen
@ericmartin601
@ericmartin601 3 года назад
You said they made eachother more powerful by spending time together like 10 times. I get it.
@braxton7753
@braxton7753 3 года назад
Imo the duel portrayed by the movies between Voldemort and Dumbledore was nothing how it was in the books.... Dumbledore wiped the floor with Voldemort in the book.
@akashvk787
@akashvk787 3 года назад
Albus dumbldore was the only wizard who fought both the dark wizard
@annaqaddams9108
@annaqaddams9108 4 года назад
Rita Skeeter downplayed the Grindelwald x Dumbledore duel, saying he pulled out a white flag and came quietly. Okay, so Rita isn't known for her accuracy, but there is always a grain of truth in her articles. 1945 was an interesting year (in the Muggle world). I'm thinking of the explosion that took place in Hiroshima in August of that year. Could Grindelwald, attracted by the destruction in that part of the world, been visiting the Japanese School of Magic (or Japanese wizards) and was inadvertently exposed to Fat Man and Little Boy. A Shield Charm would have protected him the fire storm, but wizards have no knowledge of radiation, or ways to protect against it. Did Grindelwald face Dumbledore suffering from the affects of radiation poisoning? Wizarding treatments would have no knowledge of the cause of his ailments, so no Healer could give him anything more than palliative care. Maybe the duel was not so great as some would like to remember.
@MLBeaton
@MLBeaton 3 года назад
Accio-Gun... elder wand didnt defend against unknown attacks... Grindlewald looked down on muggles Dumbledore respected them!
@23brock
@23brock 3 года назад
He was imprisoned in the prison he built/made, Nurmengard
@sameerthakur720
@sameerthakur720 3 года назад
Voldemort: Cruel SS Officer Grindelwald: The best Pirate I've ever seen.
@miko007
@miko007 2 года назад
duuuude, they weren't friends, they had some deep love story going. i guess dumbledore defeated grindelwald, because gellert was not able to really harm him, because of his feelings. glossing of this detail makes the whole story blant, as it is missing all the tragedy. dumbledore and grindelwald both travelled the world together to find the deathly hallows, but both for very different reasons. dumbledore found out what gellert had in mind an due to his love for him basically was in for the idea. he just was not a fan of how grindelwald wanted to reach his goal and they parted ways as they battled over the use of the obscurial of his sister adriana.
@BigBoomOfDoom2
@BigBoomOfDoom2 4 года назад
I don't remember the name of the spell, but surely Dumbledore's greatest feat was stopping Voldamorts casting of that 'unstoppable' fire spell in their duel, the same one that Crab (or Goyle?) cast in the room of requirement.
@BigBoomOfDoom2
@BigBoomOfDoom2 3 года назад
@☠️ LORD VOLDEMORT ☠️ Thanks.
@taradegraaf
@taradegraaf 3 года назад
3:13 just perfect not 2 pixel screen
@yeetinskeetin178
@yeetinskeetin178 4 года назад
I wonder who would win in a war between muggles and wizards, the wizards have their powerful magic but muggles also have an insane variety of military vehicles (tanks, planes, ships) and also have access to bombs capable of wiping out entire cities.
@everwildart3563
@everwildart3563 4 года назад
Muggles. Wizards have magic yes but unfortunately it's nothing against muggle's technologies. This is why witches and wizards remained in hiding till this day. If a war ever break out, it might brings more destruction than World War 1 & 2. It is crucial for both worlds to stay apart so that they can coexist with one another.
@leonilobat-ao9428
@leonilobat-ao9428 3 года назад
On the the wings of love up and above the clouds the only way to fly
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT 4 года назад
Grindelwald is the better wizard because he is more dangerous and dumbledore mentioned that grindelwald was almost his equal and grindelwald didn’t fear death
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
What do you mean? Even with the Elder wand, Grindelwald lost to Dumbledore.
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT 4 года назад
Earnest Scribbler dumbledore said that grindelwald was almost his equal even in dumbledores prime
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
@@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT Than whom are you saying Grindelwald is the better wizard?
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT
@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT 4 года назад
Earnest Scribbler yes grindelwald is the better wizard
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
@@FearlessLionGamingFLGFLGYT The better wizard that whom?
@mikelombard21
@mikelombard21 2 года назад
I cannot wait to see this on screen also.
@BDMC07
@BDMC07 3 года назад
Sending Grindelwald to Azkaban would've been a horrible idea. Sure it housed Dementors. But it also housed some of the worst dark wizards. Now we all know Grindelwald was like a politician in many ways. It would be too easy for him to talk those dark wizards into serving his cause. After twisting a few dark minds a breakout from Azkaban would've taken place. Dumbledore knew that. which is why he was sent to Nurmengard. Where there were no minds to twist except his own.
@garrettklein7720
@garrettklein7720 3 года назад
Grindelwald and Dumbledore weren't just "good friends"... they were lovers. Let's be honest.
@StarbitO
@StarbitO 2 года назад
facts bestie
@gamingnews5930
@gamingnews5930 Год назад
Grinder Walt was by far a powerful Wizard and one to be feared but Albas Dumbledore was practically the strongest Wizards to be alive and that is why everyone feared him even the ministry of magic felt threatened by Dumbledore but could not do anything against him because he was seen as a hero to many. The Elder wand only made spells a lot more powerful and yes it was the strongest wand to exist made by death himself but Albas Dumbledore even had the strength through his power and wand to push back even the elder wand and grindle Walt showing just how powerful he was.
@king65891
@king65891 2 года назад
My theory is that Grindelwald wasn't the rightful owner of the elder wand. I believe that gregoravitch was still the master of the wand since Grindelwald only stole it but didn't kill him like the first example of the elder wand changing allegiance or disarm him like seen with Harry Potter. I think Dumbledore knew this and disarmed gregoravitch prior to his duel with Grindelwald.
@Emperor-Revan
@Emperor-Revan 4 года назад
I think it was Expelliamus. Nothing special. I think their final duel was not a real duel. They talked. Grindelwald rememberd their love, understood some or all of Dumbledores Points. And at last, Grindelwald was suprisingly disarmed or maybe let Dumbledore disarm him.
@yspegel
@yspegel 2 года назад
Still sad it won't be Depp, he has, in my opinion far more the charms as an actor to make it convincing people want to follow him. Including Dumbledore
@qlutch2998
@qlutch2998 3 года назад
Imagine if dumbledore vs grindelwald was like 20 minutes on screen aaah that would be so fucking good
@geminirox8635
@geminirox8635 3 года назад
It's always weird to me when people mention Voldemort as being the most powerful wizard alive. In the books and movies he never really shows much strength with magic. Sure, this is because we don't really get to spend a lot of time with Voldemort, but he still never shows any real power.
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 2 года назад
He was very skillful but we mostly see him facing Harry Potter , the chosen one he couldn't defeat
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 2 года назад
I fear him because of goblet of fire , he manipulated his return using skill absolutely noone else could have . Inventing the potion, manipulating Dumbledore and stealing Harry Potter , Taking advantage of every droplet of opportunity to the max! Also how he protected his horcruxes But the gaping hole of his arrogance remained open though
@jameswest981
@jameswest981 4 года назад
Not a jack sparrow fan,but Johnny is doing a great job with this part of the series.he,s believeable
@shawnludwig20
@shawnludwig20 3 года назад
Its probably because Grendelwald didnt have the Elder Wands Allegiance that he couldnt use it to its full potential.
@fastwaytodie
@fastwaytodie 3 года назад
I think Albus defeated Grindelwald by Grindelwald still have love for Albus.
@CarmenMunteanu
@CarmenMunteanu 4 года назад
He was not sent to azkaban because they were probably afraid that he will turn the dementors on his side. i mean the guy was that persuasive =)))
@nathancarabajal8271
@nathancarabajal8271 4 года назад
According to something I read sometime ago, it was stated that Grindewald was a very powerful legilemens. I believe that is what allowed him to amass so many followers. By possessing that ability Grindewald was very persuasive and manipulative that he could read a persons mind and use that to his advantage to gain more followers.
@pantatikan6588
@pantatikan6588 4 года назад
wait, grindelwald was in azkaban prison when voldy visited the old man grindelwald, was he? correct me if i am wrong
@CarmenMunteanu
@CarmenMunteanu 4 года назад
@@pantatikan6588 no, he was imprisoned his own home. top floor room. the one with the view =)))
@justinyou5343
@justinyou5343 4 года назад
Cool theory
@CarmenMunteanu
@CarmenMunteanu 4 года назад
@@nathancarabajal8271 he could foresee the future not read minds. although his predictions were better then the others, he did not get things perfectly right. for example it is thought that he saw Dumbledore's letter, the one with the hole for the greater good thing before he met him so he used his believes to get to him.
@linewater2690
@linewater2690 4 года назад
You: “Hydro Kinetic Spell” Me: *Giant water ball*
@jakeharris198
@jakeharris198 4 года назад
You: Giant water ball Me: It kinda looks like a very refreshing Chuppa Chup
@insertusername6807
@insertusername6807 3 года назад
@@jakeharris198 ikr
@user-zo7ul6zp5c
@user-zo7ul6zp5c 3 года назад
I think its called aqua caracem
@carlbailey6324
@carlbailey6324 2 года назад
Yep giant water ball
@darthaum
@darthaum 4 года назад
Just give Grindelwald seven horcruxes and then tell me Voldemort is stronger. I just feel they were both after different things. Grindelwald didn't care for immortality and to increase his power after he got the wand. Grindelwald is the athlete with a Ferrari and Voldemort is the valedictorian with a Lamborghini.
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
Horcruxes don't matter in a fight or make someone more powerful. All they do is stop Voldemort's soul from moving on to the afterlife if his body's killed.
@deanwalker7707
@deanwalker7707 4 года назад
Pretty sure he is interested in eternal life..."will we die just a little"...and the whole point of the Deathly Hallows is beating Death. Don't you think?
@justinpowell1802
@justinpowell1802 3 года назад
Very well put!!!!
@darthaum
@darthaum 3 года назад
@@justinpowell1802 Thanks a lot
@mohammedfaraazhasankhan1627
@mohammedfaraazhasankhan1627 3 года назад
I disagree. He also wanted to attain immortality. His means were different. He decided to ise the Hallows while Voldy decided to use Horcruxes. And don't forget that Voldy was closer to immortality than anyone else. Not even Grindelwald. But of course no one can be immortal as dear Harry Potter proved.
@swolby9230
@swolby9230 4 года назад
Ironically, this dark wizard is rather pale.
@thebluecamo905
@thebluecamo905 4 года назад
Akash Adrian Mehta it is a pattern with them
@swolby9230
@swolby9230 4 года назад
@@thebluecamo905 I have a feeling that Just Kidding Rowling has something wrong with white people. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Sadly, she may say that given how much she likes to follow public opinion. And there is a unfair level of hatred directed at white people, stereotyping them as racist, at least from the loud minority. Also, if anyone is to respond to this reply, please carry some discretion.
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 4 года назад
I found it annoying they gave him that weird albino look instead of making him look more normal. Just trying to create another Voldemort. 😒
@p0tanscimm
@p0tanscimm 4 года назад
Imagine what people would think if they were all black and called dark wizards
@thebluecamo905
@thebluecamo905 4 года назад
Mobile Gaming wow dude that is hilarious
@jojomaas5500
@jojomaas5500 4 года назад
I actually wanted Grinedelwald to succeed while watching the movie. The amount of charisma Grindelwald had was just unbelievable i guess.
@aishashaikh1888
@aishashaikh1888 4 года назад
Me too.
@s2tj827
@s2tj827 4 года назад
That’s the actor would be nice to see him on a ship
@poojachauhan1212
@poojachauhan1212 4 года назад
If Grindlewald and Dumbledore would be together then they both would be the supreme powers of the wizarding world. But if Grindlewald won't be defeated then you can't have Dumbledore with the elder wand
@ViralXQ
@ViralXQ 4 года назад
Thank the actor
@orwwan
@orwwan 4 года назад
HughAll2810 .....there should be a captain there somewhere....
@Bilal-lp1zb
@Bilal-lp1zb 4 года назад
Let's not forget the fire spell Grindelwald used in crimes of Grindelwald was going to destroy all of Paris, which is the highest feat any wizard in Harry potter has done
@luigidavola7873
@luigidavola7873 4 года назад
Of the spells recorded honey. Dumbledore must have used one of the greatest spells ever to defeat grinderWald, thus having their battle dubbed as the greatest of all time
@jenothemississippianofmand5202
@jenothemississippianofmand5202 4 года назад
Protego Diabolo
@fandansk
@fandansk 4 года назад
yep, Protego Diabolica
@pepehorhae
@pepehorhae 4 года назад
blue amaterasu
@quima5844
@quima5844 4 года назад
Protego diabolica
@guyfromthatoneplace478
@guyfromthatoneplace478 4 года назад
I’d like to believe Dumbledore play a part in Grindelwald not being sent to Azkaban to suffer at the hands of the dementors
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
I hope so too. I mean, if they were 'lovers' before that has to be shown to fill in the missing parts in the books.
@amateurapple
@amateurapple 4 года назад
@@komokosai Grindelwald never loved Albus haha it was the other way around
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
@@amateurapple that's why i said 'lovers'
@user-uh4ub4ke3t
@user-uh4ub4ke3t 4 года назад
Grindelwald would be out of azkaban without a problem, drmentors would have no power over him
@joethesheep4675
@joethesheep4675 4 года назад
i would like that too but i am asking myself what would happen if there was a big internationally active terrorist with lots of influence that got caught. Where would he go to prison? I would believe that the US and their lackies would try to get their hands on him for questioning but what if the ppl that caught him are not friends of the US and simply dont extradite him? Or maybe he is cooperative and tells them everything they want to know in exchange for better imprisonment conditions? They certainly can do a lot with this question. We will see if they use it well. (but i would be happy with Dumbledore just arranging this, too)
@Brock-Lesnar-WWE
@Brock-Lesnar-WWE 3 года назад
If Gilderoy Lockhart was there he would have killed both dumbledore and Grindelwald just by waving his wand and then he would smile like he done in chamber of secrets
@billystokes3917
@billystokes3917 3 года назад
Yes he would, because he knows the exact spells to counter every spell ever created.
@shawnwing-kovarik9762
@shawnwing-kovarik9762 3 года назад
Lockhart would try to oblivaite Dumbledore and Grindelwald as that is the only spell he can auctually do (As mentioned in the Chamber of Secrets where Lockhart, Ron and Harry head into the Chamber, though I auctually think he said that he was good with mind magic? Which the oblivaite would fall under I think, Makes me wonder if he could successfully place someone under the Imperius Curse as that curse would fall under Mind Magic too?)
@ZDtz1786
@ZDtz1786 3 года назад
@@shawnwing-kovarik9762 Its a fucking joke, dont take it so serious
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements 2 года назад
Dumbledore and Grindelwald could beat him with both their hands tied behind their backs
@darchangel2136
@darchangel2136 2 года назад
Actually, I'm pretty sure he'd ask them what's for pudding and then ask for some crayons, just like his obliviated self
@brianmurphy9317
@brianmurphy9317 4 года назад
Dumbledore was a more intelligent, skilled and talented wizard. That's one of the only ways the Elder Wand would betray Grindewald. The wand chooses the wizard. It could also be Dumbledore disarmed Grindewald that day Ariana died, during their duel, and the wand recognized Dumbledore as the superior because of this.
@mrfinch5246
@mrfinch5246 4 года назад
I Don't think he had that wand in that fight.
@brianmurphy9317
@brianmurphy9317 4 года назад
@@mrfinch5246 He didn't have the wand in that fight, he was defeated by Dumbledore prior to their historical battle. He proved himself to be a more talented wizard against an "undefeatable" wand after the fact. Mind boggling if you think about it.
@davidoaklund8786
@davidoaklund8786 4 года назад
Brian Murphy Dumbledore and Grindelwald made the blood pack so i doubt they even successfully used a spell on eatchother. In the book when dumbledore drinks the cave potion, he relives the moment when grindelwald used crucio on Aberforth. And he screams ”dont hurt them, please hurt me instead!”. Which to me implies that dumbledore COULDN’T help his siblings. Dumbledore would never ask someone to stop torturing, HE WOULD JUST STOP THEM HIMSELF.
@sampunch9804
@sampunch9804 4 года назад
It has nothing to do with talent or intelligence, Dumbledore was far more talented than Malfoy however Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore to gain the elder wands allegiance. In order to gain the wands loyalty you must either disarm or defeat the current wand holder.
@Lewis8Z
@Lewis8Z 4 года назад
Grindelwald didnt have the elder wand at that point. Im pretty sure grindelwald would have needed to be master of the elder wand when he was (theoretically) disarmed by Dumbledore
@larapaulyn1488
@larapaulyn1488 4 года назад
Grindelwald wasn't placed in azkaban bc Dumbledore doesn't trust the dementors. Grindelwald could probably persuade them in a wink 😂
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 3 года назад
the dude gave up trying to take control after dumbledore beat him
@Ballin4Vengeance
@Ballin4Vengeance 3 года назад
I have no alterior motives. **wink*wink** You see I winked which implies that I’m lying
@BlackDragonWitheHawk
@BlackDragonWitheHawk 4 года назад
I still argue that grindelwald and dumbledore were both more powerfull than voldemort. Only difference is that both of them still had some humanity (not so obvious with grindelwald, but "for the greater good" is, whilst still wrong, not the same as pure lust to kill)
@randomshit308
@randomshit308 4 года назад
It is said that Voldy was the most powerful dark wizard, that tells me that he was only good with dark magic really, so Grindelwald is even more powerful than him
@Lewis8Z
@Lewis8Z 4 года назад
@@randomshit308 its stated that grindelwald is also a dark wizard so Voldemort is more powerful than him. However i still believe that grindelwald would beat Voldemort in a duel
@BlackDragonWitheHawk
@BlackDragonWitheHawk 4 года назад
voldemort is probably umatched in the dark arts, yes but he has a lack of understanding for lots of other magic and grindelwald and dumbledore both where skilled in almost any subject or at least had knowledge about it. To choose not to follow something doesn't make you necessarely less powerful. So as a whole, voldi is not as powerful as the other two, even if he is more skiled and knowledgeable in one field of magic (although I even doubt that)
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 4 года назад
I'd say that Grindlewald is just as heartless as Voldemort he's just more charismatic and good at pretending he has humanity. (The greater good) was just a tool he used to control his followers and make it appear he was serving a noble cause. If you can manipulate Dumbledore then you must be an extremely good manipulator.
@BlackDragonWitheHawk
@BlackDragonWitheHawk 4 года назад
@@saljpal3 yes, the results are pretty much the same but the origins are different. If you go to extrem measures to achieve a goal, may it be with good intentions or for "the greater good" or not, extremism means leaving feelings and ethics behind. I think even then there is a fundamental difference between a purely powerhungry and crazzy, murderous bastard and a powerhungry intelect that is driven to extremism... This difference becomes visible if you think about why grindelwald accepted his imprisonment, whilst Riddle would have fought against it until the verry end, should he have been captured.
@stevensalazar1105
@stevensalazar1105 4 года назад
I think grindelwald wasn't put in azkaban for one reason: Dumbledore said not to. Dumbledore didn't want to see his friend from long ago subjected to the dementors
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 3 года назад
He would escape easily, dementors are completely useless against someone with purpose!! Like Bellatrix and Sirius, They basically can't "see" you If all you have on your mind is hope They just latch on to already present dark thoughts and amplify
@andrewglatfelter6957
@andrewglatfelter6957 3 года назад
Actually just Rowling said this, Dumbledore was gay and had feelings for grindewald. Ik it's crazy!!!
@defaltcm
@defaltcm 3 года назад
@@andrewglatfelter6957Them having a duel just took on a whole new meaning...
@magicalworld6537
@magicalworld6537 2 года назад
No matte how, I really hope Dumbledore would visit Grindelwald during the long 53 years. Being alone in a dark room with the same blanket for 53 years... how cruel and lonely😭 Grindelwald reflected his behaviour and regretted what he had done. He’s no longer a bad person like before. He deserved the punishment to be in prison for life as he killed aurors during battle but as he changed and regretted, I think he also deserved visits from the one he loved. Not only did he know that he is wrong, he also protected Dumbledore til the end by not telling Voldemort about the Elder wand. He never betrayed Dumbledore!!! He still loved Dumbledore for 53 years even without seeing him at all. Besides, speaking of personality, unlike Voldemort, Grindelwald didn’t force people to follow him by creating fear. Grindelwald didn’t do massacre like Voldemort too. Voldemort killed many more than him. Yet Voldemort didn’t even hv to suffer the coldness and loneliness in a dark cell for half a century… it’s completely unfair to Grindelwald. It really breaks my heart when knowing that Voldemort’s visit was the only day when Grindelwald woke up and found that he’s not alone💔 In current days, even life sentenced prisoners will be given chance to communicate with family by visiting or writing letters and also breathe fresh air. In many countries, life sentenced prisoners can even be released at their old age if they behaved well in prison and realised the fault they did. Let’s do the wizard world a favour that now I don’t demand the releasing of Grindelwald. But just visits from Dumbledore is totally reasonable considering he behaved so well in prison and he regretted what he did. He loved Dumbledore and protected him til the end… I really hope Dumbledore would have visited him during the 53 years😔
@morrisl123
@morrisl123 4 года назад
"What spell did Dumbledore use to finally apprehend Grindelwald-" Jellylegs Jinx
@RanjitKumar-pr2eq
@RanjitKumar-pr2eq 4 года назад
Eat slugs
@russian-canadianfamily6895
@russian-canadianfamily6895 3 года назад
Locomotor wibbly is the spell I think
@aarav_sharma
@aarav_sharma 3 года назад
@LucasMorris You look like Harry potter if he didn't played quiddich
@morrisl123
@morrisl123 3 года назад
@@aarav_sharma Thanks....... I think?
@Dobviews
@Dobviews 3 года назад
Harry potter face shape but better hair like that of Newt.
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 4 года назад
When they shoot the final fight between these two I really hope they showcase the true power of Dumbledore. I want to see why voldemort & others feared him . I would also prefer it to be a multi scene fight instead of the voldemort vs Dumbledore battle. I see it switching between a secondary plot involving newt .
@jrlrpgdraw
@jrlrpgdraw 4 года назад
I beg them not to have a dumb beam struggle
@kjellferre4501
@kjellferre4501 4 года назад
@@jrlrpgdraw same
@finnfasty2347
@finnfasty2347 3 года назад
@@VideosOfRandomContext wow what a comment! I think you are right about what becomes in the third en fourth movie, but I don’t think Dumbledore have killed Credence. That makes no sense to me
@blue_belt_blues9554
@blue_belt_blues9554 3 года назад
I bet they make it so dumbledore only wins because of bloody newt scamander helping him somehow
@alexandersmith4988
@alexandersmith4988 3 года назад
Yeah bro
@Jmyamaki
@Jmyamaki 3 года назад
Interesting. This reminds me of Xmen, and how Magneto and Professor X had different views and goals in regard to how to deal with the “normal humans”. Very close friends at first, then enemies.
@himum3429
@himum3429 2 года назад
Magneto is Grindelwald Proffessor X is Dumbeldore Apocalypse is Voldemort
@AjayKumar-ly6xm
@AjayKumar-ly6xm 2 года назад
@@himum3429 So Jean Grey is Harry Potter 😂😂😂
@himum3429
@himum3429 2 года назад
@@AjayKumar-ly6xm Pretty much lol. Wolverine is probably Mad Eye 👀😂
@sabyasachichoudhury2920
@sabyasachichoudhury2920 4 года назад
Ok, let’s be honest, Grindelwald is the coolest looking wizard I know
@davidstranavsky6432
@davidstranavsky6432 4 года назад
What about Gilderoy? He has the charmest smile ever :D
@ArgonYouTube
@ArgonYouTube 4 года назад
Mad Eye Moody is clearly the most badass wizard.
@johnnythesnow253
@johnnythesnow253 3 года назад
Thanks to Johnny:) it's really sad that we won't see him as Grindelwald anymore
@halinastefstef4408
@halinastefstef4408 3 года назад
P. O. Y. R. W. Ljgfdssaamnbvcxzz098776655t4321
@halinastefstef4408
@halinastefstef4408 3 года назад
07012 445
@reneferretti886
@reneferretti886 4 года назад
Grinderwald, for me, defenetly more powerfull than Voldemort (without horcrux)
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
And Voldy couldn't care less about ancient magic...jokes on him, Grindelwald was topnotch at that too aside from dark magic
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
Voldemort > Grindelwald. It's a Harry Potter fact.
@shadowx2750
@shadowx2750 4 года назад
@@CulturalMarxist4985 in power , maybe in brains , not a chance
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
@@shadowx2750 Well, Dumbledore did say this in the Order of the Phoenix: "I knew that Voldemort's knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever returned to full power."
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
@Sam Samson Grindelwald didn't start in the country with Dumbledore. The books confirm that Voldemort's more powerful, more knowledgeable, more feared and more dangerous than Grindelwald.
@sickofseeingjustsomeguywit8168
@sickofseeingjustsomeguywit8168 3 года назад
Dumbledore defeated an Elder wand using expert. He is by far the best wizard to have ever existed.
@BC08
@BC08 3 года назад
Bold statement in a universe with Merlin
@jereenmoniislam8118
@jereenmoniislam8118 2 года назад
@@BC08 I just wanna ask a question. Just a random one. I don't understand, how in the world in Merlin better than Dumbledore in any way? I have always been confused about how Merlin is the greatest wizard ever and not Dumbledore.
@BC08
@BC08 2 года назад
@@jereenmoniislam8118 Merlin is recognized as the the most powerful wizard of all time
@himum3429
@himum3429 2 года назад
@@BC08 While we haven't seen Merlin as of yet. Your right in saying his reputation proceeds him. He's Op in Arthurian, Marvel, DC and Druidic literary universes and has been described in the Hp universe as one of the best ever. I'd argue if he's better than Dumbeldore, Gryffindor and Harry then Morgane le fey is better than Grindelwald, Slytherin and Voldemort.
@BC08
@BC08 2 года назад
@@himum3429 Maybe, I don’t think that’s necessarily an unreasonable assumption
@Ablon94
@Ablon94 4 года назад
We have also to remember that nicholas flammel said that if they didnt stop the protego diabolica spell, it would destroy the entire city of Paris, that spell is by far the most powerfull we have seen in the wizarding world so far.
@cb7394
@cb7394 4 года назад
what text is this from?
@Lewis8Z
@Lewis8Z 4 года назад
@@cb7394 fantastic beasts the crimes of grindelwald screenplay. He says the paris would be destroyed right before they all work together to destroy the spell
@harshrajsharma5050
@harshrajsharma5050 4 года назад
what about fiendfyre, its power is quite similar to protego diabolica
@Ablon94
@Ablon94 4 года назад
@@harshrajsharma5050 yes you are right. i would like to know if it could do as much damage as protego diabolia (destroy a whole city for example). The fire from protego diabolica apparently can obliterate ppl instantly, does the fire from fiendfyre do the same? or it's a regular fire that burns your skin? if so, it's less powerful than protego diabolica. I guess we dont have the answer yet ;/ but yes, fiendfyre is one the most powerful spells too!
@umarhasans.7245
@umarhasans.7245 4 года назад
I actually thought it was the fiendifire spell on steroids..
@JimmyTheMuggle
@JimmyTheMuggle 4 года назад
I really hope the dual happens in the fantastic beasts movies and I hope it's an epic fight!
@debbiekerr3989
@debbiekerr3989 4 года назад
OH it will be! ! The two most powerful wizards still in thier prime, you bet it'll be epic! !
@JimmyTheMuggle
@JimmyTheMuggle 4 года назад
@@debbiekerr3989 i really hope so!!!
@squidz33
@squidz33 4 года назад
Watch them fuck it up
@JimmyTheMuggle
@JimmyTheMuggle 4 года назад
@@squidz33 trueee
@Yk-if3ev
@Yk-if3ev 4 года назад
It will happen and probably, during the clash of their wands, memories will flash back. Then grindelwald will remember the "love" which will result in his defeat. Hahaha. It was always love. Just like what happened in Harry Potter.
@benalias9118
@benalias9118 4 года назад
For me, Dumbledore casting the "firestorm" spell and then using Partis Temporus on it (while surrounded by an army of dead corpses AND made sick by the potion) is the most impressive power demonstration we can see in the movies.
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 2 года назад
It was just a normal fire spell but he had the elder wand and he was very skillful
@saboorheath7769
@saboorheath7769 2 года назад
One of my favorite sequences in the entire series. Epic
@johnfisher8401
@johnfisher8401 2 года назад
@@cedriceric9730 I dont think you understand how sick the potion makes you feel. Just imagine craving a cookie, even on a good day, how hard it is to resist having a bite of something. Magnify that by a million and he could still focus and execute a perfect spell. Yeah, my ass. Hes a legend with that alone. I dont think a good majority of potter fans realize the actual power of certain spells and the influence they put people under.
@maximedaunis8292
@maximedaunis8292 Год назад
@@johnfisher8401 Put that cookie down!!
@jakoby256
@jakoby256 4 года назад
Why do you refer to them as friends tho, it was a romantic relationship.
@internalbleedingreimagined
@internalbleedingreimagined 4 года назад
PERiod, period
@bhoy67lisbon
@bhoy67lisbon 4 года назад
They really enjoyed playing with each other’s wands and duelling 👍
@SteazySnowSports
@SteazySnowSports 4 года назад
Because the romantic side is only implied and not actually written. Just as his sexuality is never stated at any point in the series nor is it even implied through the HP books. Only when JK confirmed it did it become widely accepted canon.
@jakoby256
@jakoby256 4 года назад
@@SteazySnowSports It was actually implied in the books, by chars like Rita Skeeter or even by Dumbledore ( the way he talked about Grindelwald suggested they had some thing going on ). Not to mention the fact that it was confirmed in the new movies, Dumbledore himself said they were more than friends/ brothers.
@squashy9100
@squashy9100 4 года назад
YES
@finalbossoftheinternet6002
@finalbossoftheinternet6002 4 года назад
I think it’s reasonable to assume that at the time of their duel of legend, Dumbledoor is significantly more powerful than Grindlewald. Grindlewald had the elder wand and Albus Loved him, truly and deeply loved him and probably didn’t want to hurt him but he knew he had to stop him. That’s two huge handicaps in the favour of Grindlewald if he intended to Kill Dumbledoor. But Dumbledoor won, and without killing Grindlewald. That’s because he was simply more powerful.
@jogijani4298
@jogijani4298 3 года назад
what if it was other way around :)
@toroop
@toroop 3 года назад
Have you considered tha Grindelwald just submitted at end because he could not risk injuring his lovely friend fately??
@theb.i.gnotorious9127
@theb.i.gnotorious9127 2 года назад
@@toroop do you have a proof to back up your statement grindelwald was defeated he did not submit himself
@rusydirahim5893
@rusydirahim5893 3 года назад
It'll be weird seeing another actor as Grindelwald. Johnny Depp nailed that role perfectly.
@idunusegoogleplus
@idunusegoogleplus 3 года назад
Johnny didn't deserve to get fired. He is not a wife beater. She lied.
@ZDtz1786
@ZDtz1786 3 года назад
@@idunusegoogleplus proof?
@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine
@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine 3 года назад
@@ZDtz1786 the court
@nekogaming5300
@nekogaming5300 3 года назад
@@ZDtz1786 grow up andlook it up for youself instead of pestering other people dumbass
@lordhelmet9066
@lordhelmet9066 3 года назад
Jk officially apologized to him and i believe he was reinstated as grindelwald
@joemurray2293
@joemurray2293 4 года назад
Voldemort is no tougher then grindawald, just has better press coverage. seriously, grindawald defeated by a Dumbledore in his prime vs voldy with a massive army defeated by a baby and a student. Grindawald is not weaker then Voldimort , people just have that perception because voldemoprt was actually evil, whereas so far grindawald just hass a purpose which a lot of other people at the time agree'd with so he didn't seem as evil. Also movies so far portraying Grindawald as a lot more capable then fail at everything egotistical voldy
@heshammokhtar2019
@heshammokhtar2019 4 года назад
Dumbledore never defeated Voldemort in a 1 to 1 combat, maybe it's because Dumbledore knew that defeating Voldemort is useless, or maybe because he couldn't defeat him without using some dark magic.
@Infiltator2
@Infiltator2 4 года назад
yerowww666 you mean GB abd not US right, because that wouldnt make any sense
@summoner3438
@summoner3438 4 года назад
now listen it is stated that voldemort had powers that not even dumbledore knew. Dumbledore defeated grindelwald without the elder wand and dumbledore could not defeat voldemort with the elder wand and that is not all. Voldemort got the most experienced dumbledore on the floor. And grindelwald could not even beat less experienced dumbledore and the younger dumbledore. Dumbledore said himself that voldemort was the greatest dark wizard of all time. They were even afraid to say voldemorts name and grindelwald were not that feared.
@joemurray2293
@joemurray2293 4 года назад
@@summoner3438 So Voldimort has more knowledge, and magically abilities, that doesn't make you powerful. Your message alone can make you more powerful then leading by fear. You are certainly correct Voldemort was more feared , in the end all that fear ran away when harry woke up again and all of Voldemorts army ran away. Grindelwald isn't remembered because he was the most powerful in terms of magic strength but by leading an actual revolt in which people believed, though not to say he is pathetically weak either. I'd like to think more people fully believed in Grindelwald's ideas and would be more invested in helping him then Voldemort. and I think I would fear Grindelwald in that regard more then Voldemort.
@arvindraghavan403
@arvindraghavan403 4 года назад
If we don't consider hocruxes and just raw dueling power Grindelwald would definitely beat voldemort
@thelucien3351
@thelucien3351 4 года назад
The films ruined Grindelwald’s story. In the end he didn’t betray Dumbledore which in a way redeemed him but they changed that in the films. Bet they regret that now...
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
I was mad as well... Why couldn't they just stick to the books i mean what's the point of straying away from that? They totally destroyed Grindelwald's redemption arc in the book.
@RK-ig8gc
@RK-ig8gc 4 года назад
gneiss dinosaur I read the books in first grade When I watched the seventh movie, I was pissed as hell, even more pissed than the “dumbledore said calmly” thing The change did absolutely nothing
@thelucien3351
@thelucien3351 4 года назад
Ray lol the “Dumbledore said calmly” thing was so bad. That killed me. So out of character.
@user-uh4ub4ke3t
@user-uh4ub4ke3t 4 года назад
Nah he didn't care at all about dumbledore now, don't you remember in fb2 he says the only person standing in his way is dumbledore, and he wants to therefore kill him, but the blood pact prevented him, he clearly hated, and had no feelings left for dumbledore now, they were arch enemies
@RK-ig8gc
@RK-ig8gc 4 года назад
@@user-uh4ub4ke3t a lot can change in 70 something years
@mr.awesome6360
@mr.awesome6360 4 года назад
Askaban was the Wizzard prison for the ministry of magic in England. Grindelwald crimes never extended to their even tho he was defeated by Dumbledore he never committed crimes in England. (At least according to the original lore)
@CementaryCake
@CementaryCake 3 года назад
Exactly. I don't get why don't realise it immediately, do they think we send every sentenced dude to England or what?
@rohanmulgaokar5682
@rohanmulgaokar5682 Год назад
The reason Dumbledore never sent Grinderwald to Azkaban was because he didn't like the dementors in the first place , he knew their loyalties could shift besides he did love Grinderwald so he couldn't have exactly supported Azkaban. He probably used the influence accumulated from defeating Grinderwald to ensure he was put in Numergard
@7DarkShades
@7DarkShades 4 года назад
I don’t know why ..I want Grindelwald to win....may be because Johnny deep is playing him.
@jakubcidlik
@jakubcidlik 3 года назад
Was playing him.
@Nicole-nz5ml
@Nicole-nz5ml 3 года назад
Was* he isn't gonna be taking part in the duel as Grindelwald anymore
@TheEternalPheonix
@TheEternalPheonix 3 года назад
Johnny Deep? Are you sure it wasn't Johnny Shallow?
@TheEternalPheonix
@TheEternalPheonix 3 года назад
@Versatile Wolf Bwahahahahahahaha!
@afs0073
@afs0073 4 года назад
I believe Grindelwald ultimately surrendered to Dumbledore. Dumbledore had humility bc, though he was powerful, he wasn't 'the greatest'; Grindelwald found part of his humanity, proving that later by not betraying Dumbledore in his final moments. Mutual respect, understanding if not approval, love.
@connerd5647
@connerd5647 4 года назад
Since Grindelwald stole the elder wand maybe it was never bound to him, and when he came against dumbledore the wand chose the more powerful wizard
@dandan6980
@dandan6980 4 года назад
That is my theory of choice.
@bruh3128
@bruh3128 4 года назад
He disarmed Gregorovitch. And that can't happen because Malfoy is weaker than Dumbledore. Voldemort undestood that the elder wand didn't obey him only in 20 hours. Grindelwald is more clever. He would understand it in a minute
@komokosai
@komokosai 4 года назад
The elder wand is a power hungry one. Its history is dark and bloody. Probably one of the reasons, yeah
@F5_cena
@F5_cena 4 года назад
But Dumbledore used the wand for good
@connerd5647
@connerd5647 4 года назад
Grindelwald Okay this is fair, maybe the wand recognized the blood bond the two shared and with this couldn’t deal a blow to dumbledore, if he turned this to his advantage and won the duel that would explain the switch of allegiance. And the same could be true for the piece of Harry’s blood inside Voldemort at the ballet of hogwarts.
@dobbythehouself7601
@dobbythehouself7601 4 года назад
He conquered cities, Yet He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named was the most feared for Murder, and he can’t even conquer a School full of teen-agers. Wow.
@darth9817
@darth9817 4 года назад
Yup
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
That school was Hogwarts.
@dobbythehouself7601
@dobbythehouself7601 3 года назад
@☠️ LORD VOLDEMORT ☠️ hello moldy
@dobbythehouself7601
@dobbythehouself7601 3 года назад
@☠️ LORD VOLDEMORT ☠️ tryrant
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 2 года назад
He was undone by wanting to kill harry himself , the only thing he could never do😂😂
@DavidWilson-sm2ym
@DavidWilson-sm2ym 4 года назад
Some argue that Grindelwald was more powerful than Voldemort.
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 4 года назад
Voldemort's more powerful than Grindelwald. It's a Harry Potter fact.
@VoiD_AtRaX
@VoiD_AtRaX 4 года назад
@@CulturalMarxist4985 Tellement sûr de toi que tu est obligés de commenter touts les commentaires qui disent que Grindelwald est plus fort que Voldemort . En terme de puissance magique oui Voldemort est sûrement plus puissant que Grindelwald , même si Grindelwald reste très puissant. En terme d'intelligence Grindelwald est supèrieur à Voldmeort , même si il reste intelligent . Alors oui Voldemort est plus "dangeureux" plus "puissant" mais ça ne signifie pas plus fort . Voldemort : Héritier de Serpentard , horcruxe , maître de la magie noir , puissant , craint , intelligent , famille puissante . Mais avait énormément de défauts que je ne vais pas énumérer . Il a était manipuler et gérer par plusieurs sorcier . Grindelwald : Puissant , Génie , baguette de sureau , voyant , polyvalence , manipulateur , popularisé , charismatique , partisan loyaux , habile , capable d'amour . Il avait également des défauts mais beaucoup moins . Seul Dumbledore pouvait l'arrêter . Grindelwald < Voldemort . Désolé mais même en étant un grand fan de la saga Harry potter je ne voit pas comment Voldemort pourrait vaincre Grindelwald
@khrawbobsyiemlieh7475
@khrawbobsyiemlieh7475 4 года назад
In my opinion between Voldemort and Grindelwald I'll go for Grindelwald if they duel
@Lav8514
@Lav8514 4 года назад
Yes he was, Voldemort was the most powerful "Dark wizard" and "Only" a dark wizard. Grindelwald was master in dark wizad, persuasion and ruthless killings as well as love. Grindelwad overall was the most powerful villain of the two. Voldy was the overall most powerful dark magic wizard. And then we have Dumbledore. The Greatest Wizard of all time. Grindelwald with the elder wand was 10 times stronger than Voldy would have been. Voldemort focused on a particular duel, Grindelwald focused on the overall war.
@DavidWilson-sm2ym
@DavidWilson-sm2ym 4 года назад
@@Lav8514 In my mind "wizad" is pronounced wizaaaaaaad. Can you verify the truth of that?
@jamesyarrow2646
@jamesyarrow2646 4 года назад
What if Ariana couldn’t control her magical abilities because she was an obscurial. Then after the duel and her death, the obscurial went to credence. This would mean credence is sort of dumbeldores brother. This would mean Grindelwald wasn’t lying.
@YellowBear-kx1ff
@YellowBear-kx1ff 4 года назад
James Yarrow That’d be a good video. Also, what will also be a good video is why Harry Potter wasn’t an Obscurial. Now I know the reason why, but I’d like to see @Harry Potter Theory make it into a video.
@andreapaladini7279
@andreapaladini7279 4 года назад
Ariana die before Credence born
@saljpal3
@saljpal3 4 года назад
@@andreapaladini7279 I think he might be her son, there's no way he's their brother since their parents were long dead before he was born.
@86upsmaya
@86upsmaya 4 года назад
Ariana being an obscurial is no longer a theory, more of a fact. The latter part has already been discussed by many theorists as well
@Paul-tc8di
@Paul-tc8di 4 года назад
obscurial are not pass on they are created when a wizard or witch hates the magic within them or they had a traumatic event that cause them to hate their magics for example arian
@phoqueme
@phoqueme 3 года назад
This legendary battle is said to have lasted for hours... I expect this fight to be AT LEAST 30 minutes in the movie... If not it would be a crime to the audience lol
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 3 года назад
What makes you say that the battle lasted for hours? The books don't mention how long it lasted.
@generalkermit6421
@generalkermit6421 3 года назад
@@CulturalMarxist4985 it must have been on pottermore or somewhere lol
@rmi12
@rmi12 3 года назад
@@CulturalMarxist4985 it does, they say it lasted for 2 hours.
@CulturalMarxist4985
@CulturalMarxist4985 3 года назад
@@rmi12 Where does it say that?
@fiorrytommy9429
@fiorrytommy9429 3 года назад
I expect the 4th film called "the greatest duel of all time" And just be 2 hours of dueling... Would suck probably, but also would be dope and a first in Cinema history
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