How effective is your 9mm carry ammo? 9MM VS HUMAN TORSO 

“Built like a bowl of milk” is an insult I will be adding to my arsenal.

As I said before, that lab coat gives him basically full qualifications to do all of this He's practically a surgeon now

Just came to see the lungs get blown completely out of the body.

When I started my LEO career we carried revolvers. When we transitioned to 9mm Glocks, the first duty ammo was 115 grain and the department's experience with that let them/us to change to 147 grain subsonic 9mm ammo...which had much better results and stopping power. Eventually, we changed to .40 department wide for duty carry. But off-duty, if carrying a 9mm, the 147 grain remained the preference.

I would really like to see an video breaking down how different barrel lengths on some calibers at different distances influence the effect on target 🤔

I work in emergency medicine and I’ve seen a fair amount of gun shot wounds. Most of them are fmj from small calibers (25 acp, 22lr, 380). Those patients tend to live unless it’s to the heart, a major blood vessel, or brain stem. The patients I’ve seen with 9mm hollow points don’t live if the patient is shot in the trunk (chest or stomach). Most of the time (if not all of the time) quality hollow points pass all the way through. I personally carry Hornady critical duty because I’ve seen what it does..

The levels of enthusiasm in these videos is amazing, not only a great teacher, but also makes it look flawless and super entertaining. Thanks for the content man!

Very unique and very funny! “Are those Altoids?” 😂 Thank you for making me smile!!

‘If you ever missed any target because you didn’t train’ Man, he should have a hell of a lot more subscribers. I know I got a hell of a lot better after my CCW class. Then further improved after my Beginner handgun class.

“Somewhere out there, there is a private sitting on the railway at NTC…” I felt that.

Love your channel man. Educational but really fun. You guys seem like you’d be fun to hang out with.

Aside form the info, it's just fun watching these guys work together.

I know you’re already doing the “how to be deadly in the mountains” series but I also think it would be cool to get a rundown on your urban EDC setup and what you keep in your truck.

10:35 New Jersey, in their INFINITE firearms wisdom, has banned JHPs for carry/self defense. So, subjects of that state have to either carry plain ball FMJ ammo, something gimmicky like Extreme Defender or Glaser Safety Slugs or CorBon Pow'r Ball, something frangible and hope it breaks up after penetrating organs, or (preferably above ALL aforementioned options) something like Federal's EFMJ which is basically a bullet that has a lead base, a rubber nose, and a very thick copper jacket that covers over all of it. It looks and feels and shoots exactly like a FMJ bullet, but when it hits something that soft copper jacket collapses into the squishy rubber nose section and squashes it flat as a pancake against the lead base section so it mushrooms and sorta achieves the same JHP expansion effect. It's not the best, but it works better than plain ball. I just love how Federal created the EFMJ. It's a humongous middle finger and FUCK YOU to the asinine legislators who brew up such ridiculous bullshit as that.

Just found this channel in the last day or so from watching demoranch, Kentucky ballistics and theAKguy and I gotta say you might be my new favorite RU-vid gunner boy haha. Love the content so far man look forward to seeing more

Please do another video with sub-compact handguns! Would also love to see a wider range of ammunition options tested, since the really widely regarded ones like Speer Gold Dot can be so hard to find and so expensive when you do find them

The Hornady did exactly as designed; penetration, expansion and mass kinetic energy dump inside the target without over penetration = dead right there. With some clothing on the torso we might see some slightly different results with the HP ammo.

a few days ago the 9x19mm calibre was finally liberalized for civilian ownership/use, so this is incredibly well timed for Italy!

Would love to see a video comparing the best hollowpoints to ARX type rounds. From what i've seen, those seem to be the future of defense ammo.

The critical defense is designed to get up to speed in a subcompact. I'd love to see all of these rounds fired through a small barrel and see if CD is actually better or if it's all smoke and mirrors.

All shots at 7 yards through a Glock 17 7:25 **M882** ball through gut 9:33 **M882** through chest 11:25 **Critical Defense** through gut 11:36 "Why is the blood blue? Halo" 13:43 **Critical Defense** through chest 15:42 **Gold Dot** through gut 16:48 **Gold Dot** through chest 17:37 dissection on dummy #1 21:40 **HST** through gut 22:53 **HST** through chest 24:11 **Norma MHP** through gut 24:55 "Bring Me To Life" cover 25:36 another **MHP** through gut 26:18 **MHP** through chest 27:27 another **MHP** through chest 28:25 (easter egg?) 50AE 300gr Hornady XTP (I think) through chest at point blank 28:48 another XTP through the ribs

“What feels legal, but isn’t illegal” This is why i love this channel

Dr. VIDS WITH CHARLY'S COMMENTS ARE THE BEST ! NEVER 1 MINUTE BORING. THE WHOLE TEAM IS AWESOME

Ive always used Hornady ammo, I use it for hunting primarily, but in small game and larger game. It has always done me well so I’ve carried it in my edc as well. Was good seeing a video like this. Big thumbs up

Video idea: The affects of different rifle calibers, at a reasonable engagement distance, slicing through a prone ballistics dummy. The angle is relatively vulnerable, so seeing what carnage would ensue would be an interesting opportunity for scientific discovery. You could even slap some plates on the dummy to capture some of the energy that may be displaced.

Mike, I think putting some clothing on the dummies, like a jacket or something would drastically change your results because some of the more open hollowpoint designs can actually get clogged. Atleast that's the theory...

this is quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel 😂

The homemade camera quality, like the wobbliness makes these videos very funny and, in my opinion, better.

For those looking for a short, less entertaining answer: Very. Very deadly.

I feel like the more Mike and Admin hangout the more each of their big chimp energies grow.

I like the blue blood vs the red because the blue makes it easier to see the internal bleeding. I think it's extremely important to see the internal bleeding in this type of video.

You guys are great, very watchable for 30 mins

Charlie has incredible comedic timing and overall mannerisms. That ending was so perfect lmao. Get him on here more often.

I personally operated on several people shot with both FMJ and HP. Other than making slightly bigger holes, there is no significant difference. When a solid organ is shot like the liver, the petals will cause more bleeding in the HP. FMJ do penetrate more, especially when it hits bone.

Id love to see the underwood extreme defenders tested on one of these. Especially the 68gr +p, saw a video of a guy shooting it through an MP5 chrono at 2100fps!

Hmmm, didn’t blow his lung out of his back ….I’ve been mislead !

Gotta say (as an actual physician assistant in the state of AZ lol), the Hornady didn't get a fair chance. You fired it midline, right at the spine. Not surprised that it didn't go through.... Either way, loved the video. Certainly demonstrated the difference between ball ammo and quality hollow points--that's for sure! I would love to see a comparison video between .380, 9mm, .40sw, .45acp, and 10mm hollow points... Then maybe a revolver caliber review.... Asking for too much ?? :P

When I first got into firearms I bought the identical gun to what the department that I work for issues and uses. A Gen 3 (at the time) Glock 22. For my self defense ammo I started out using Federal Premium Hydrashok rounds. But then as I started buying more firearms and began doing independent testing I switched to Speer Gold Dot and Federal Premium HST rounds. With the testing that I did from multiple calibers, firearms, shot distances, barrier penetration, and everything else that I could simulate real life scenarios, I found that the Speer Gold Dot and Federal Premium ammo both performed virtually identical in every test, caliber and so on. I also discovered that they had the best results over every other JHP round that I tested. And there were a lot, in multiple firearms, barrel lengths, calibers, test mediums and so on. But then, I started testing Underwood Extreme Defender ammo and I was completely blown away (no pun intended) by the results in every caliber, firearms, barrel length and test medium. That ammo out performed every single other ammo in every test, caliber, barrel length, firearm, distance and test medium. As a result of that, the Underwood Extreme Defender ammo is all that I will use now. I still train with and buy Speer Gold Dot ammo and Federal Premium HST ammo because 2 neighboring agencies to the one that I work at use those specific brands of ammo. The County uses the Speer Gold Dot ammo and the city uses the Federal Premium ammo. There is s large pig farm about an hour to an hour and a half from where I live. The farmer is a good dude. Every now and then he will have a pig get injured or sick and it has to be put down. On a few occasions where the pigs could not be harvested we used them as our test mediums after they were humanely killed. We then x-rayed the results and could see how different rounds effect a body that yields very similar results to that of a human.

You guys are awesome !! Charlie is the GOAT !!!

I know the ballistic dummies aren’t totally accurate but I’m gonna have to agree with Micah. Most of those rounds are overpowered. If I have to shoot an intruder inside of my house, the last thing I want is the round to travel through and go through the wall into my kids room, etc. glad I’ve always stuck with the critical duty for all my defensive firearms.

I’d love to see a remake of this with more exotic 9mm defensive rounds like underwood extreme defender, fort scott TUI, liberty civil defense and g2 research RIP

I’m watching this in the bedroom with my gf who I assumed wasn’t paying any attention, but when Mike asked, “What feels illegal, but isn’t illegal?” in the intro she immediately answered, “An 18 yr old?”😂 WTF?!? My lady is savage AF bro!! REAL TALK!!

My favorite gunpowder based science channel on YT.

"Zomg spider!" Funniest episode I've seen, hope I see more of Dr.GarandThumb.

Charlie is a blast, need more of him

9mm ammunition has come a long way over the years and there's no reason that a well aimed, appropriate 9mm cartridge wouldn't have the desired effect when striking the torso of an attacker.

Very cool! Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST is what's in most my mags. 👍

I really enjoyed this video. It’s like you guys got high before recording this one. Lotta giggling, lotta jokes/innuendos, lotta fun. Pit vipers and altoids added to Amazon “range essentials” shopping list.

As someone who also freaks out on spiders, I can understand that. I once was walking in some woods and saw a massive fat ass spider hiding under a fallen tree. I pulled my carry gun and fucking yeeted him. Hornady critical defense .380 ACP will slap some mf spiders.

I absolutely love that you kept the spider bit in there lmao 🤣

I use the Speer LE Gold Dot 185grain hollow points in .45 - I'll stand by that brand. They are amazing at flowering, and shoot clean, etc.

Would love to see similar tests but with different layers of clothing (t shirt, jackets etc) added. Some defensive ammunition are better barrier penetrators than others.

The only problem with your ballistic gel dummies is the fact that they are missing the tactical beer gut that can be used to absorb some of the impact of a 9mm to survive.

It would be interesting to see how these perform after going through a couple layers of clothing. I think that's a selling point of the Hornady is the polymer prevents the hollow point getting clogged with debris on the way in.

Hey Brother, I would love to see this test using .380, 9mm, .45, and 10mm using only Liberty Civil Defense ammo. The fastest, hardest hitting hand gun ammo made. Your content with a little humor is TOP SHELF!! Appreciate you for what ya do for all of us! I was carrying HST's before coming across the Liberty Civil Defense.

I was so used to the other intro soundtrack on these science explained vids

The Hornady is not underpowered. It did Exactly what it was designed and intended to do. Moderate recoil, significant expansion and minimal overpenetration. Perfect personal defense round.

I'd like to see what kind of injuries would be caused by the exiting bullets to a second ballistic dummy behind the first.

Just subscribed and I love this guy

I would luv to see what "Hornedy" critical duty rds do in your test. Great vids as always.

“Low drag, high snatch” No better dad advice has ever been given.

I would love to see the effects of m193 on a torso with 10.3”, 14.5/16” and 20” barrels

I usually carry spear gold dot LE with me but I been thinking about carrying the RIP rounds. Thanks for doing the testing so we can see what's up.

The spider LOL. Yall's antics remind me of when i was in the Marines. I miss it.

We need a video testing some weird exotic 9mm rounds out there like liberty civil defense and g2 rip. And prove whether it truly is terrible or effective.

Norma MHP appears to expand the most in other tests I've seen, causing a very nasty traumatic internal wound. With that said, Federal has a reputation for reliable expansion.

Nice video keep up the good work

amazing experiment!! you should test with another balistic dummy behind to test if overpenetration can kill.

I can't believe you said "Hornady" wrong this entire video. Everybody knows it is pronounced "Horn Daddy"

My wife, during Christmas shopping, "Why did you park so far from the entrance?" Me, "The comment section is out of control."

I loved the chaos of this video

God that clean 30 mins is beautiful

I witnessed a stand your ground shooting at a gas station a while back , a dude got blasted 6 times in the torso at about 4 yards away with 380 target rounds . A few of the rounds completely penetrated the guys body and hit a car that was 15ft away. The wildest part about the whole thing is that the guy survived the shooting , I still can’t believe it . If he would’ve been hit with horny criticical defense rounds , he probably would’ve died on the spot and the car wouldn’t have been hit .

Nothing makes me happier than the shift in personality between Tactical Garand Thumb in Cryes and plate carriers and Doctor Science Garand Thumb in Pit Vipers and a blood soaked lab coat

And that is why I have Federal HST in my 9mms and Speer Gold Dots in my .45s. (Got a hella deal sometime back on several boxes of .45 GDs.)

Thus channel is so good that I almost feel bad for being subscribed to other shooting channels.

I have the great pleasure of working as a surgical technician for the USAF (4N1X1) and have pulled several bullets out of people and the critical defense has always expanded well. Fortunately the polymer tip makes it easy to distinguish and I was able to share what I know of defensive ammo to the surgeon that had no clue what that red plastic bit was.

Hornady is more for home defense so in my opinion that’s what you want, a round that doesn’t exit so it doesn’t keep going through walls and family members

Thumbs up, simply for the cameras reaction to the spider 😂😂😂

Love the energy of your videos 🤣

I love how you do experiments that we actually think about and need to know.

Round placement is the answer, bullet size can make a difference but being a good shot is far more important!

The Big Guy says a 9mm will blow a lung out of your body.

You guys are awesome!! My kind of people. Thanks for what you do. My kind of humor too. Yal rock!!!!

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I would love to see some drywall, interior home doors and solid front door barrier tests on those torsos. Basically, see how well various calibers and bullets perform penetrating simulated interior home walls and doors then into the torsos. Just a thought I had after watching your videos.

I'd love to see you test the Barnes TAC XPD against the torso.

DRT terminal shock is a good option as well. I personally carry it in 45 acp 150 grain. But iv seen the results of the 9mm and its pretty impressive

I'm not too surprised by the Hornady, Gold Dots, and HSTs, didn't expect that from the Norma ammo though. Also that Desert Eagle at the end I went huh that's what that would look like cause I just rewatched the original Matrix movie last night and that first shot was almost spot on with a shot in the movie

Still waiting for 5.56 versus ballistic gel right arm.

Charlie is a treasure, always makes my day!

Personally if I’m using a defensive round I don’t want it going though my target and risk hitting something behind, best to have it stop in the target. Just my thoughts

"9mm kills the body but .45acp kills the soul, we can't have them coming back as a lich"

Critical Defense (Hornady) is underpowered compared to the others because it's meant for short subcompact guns. When you test the Critical Duty, you'll see improved performance out of full size guns.

Id love to see a video on how small caliber "self defense" ammo out of an LCP or similar does. Federal Punch and CCI Stinger vs a Federal Punch or Hornady Critical Defense 380.

I carry every day but watching these makes me want to not be out and about in all honesty. I truly don't ever want to have to use mine on someone...can't imagine how I'd feel knowing I had to use one of my PD Rounds on an actual human...but with how crazy the world is these days and that I have 3 kids and a wife to attend to...ill keep carrying to make sure when I do go out ill have a better chance at coming back (I work around Detroit...thankfully I've changed up my business model to where I stay primarily in safe areas now a days though)

It'd be fun to see you do some testing with modern loadings of .45-70 or .30-30. Particularly the .45-70....a whole bunch of people were shot with that back in the day. It'd be comical to see what a round that was regularly used to yeet bison does to one of these torso models. I know your usual wheelhouse is modern stuff but it'd make for a fun cowboy themed episode......or maybe just the ending, like you did with the .50 AE here. Chaps or bust.

Hornady Critical is designed to not be a through and through, to minimize risk and damage to anyone or anything behind the target. It performed exactly as it was designed to.

Test 5.45x39 it was nicknamed the “poison bullet” because it supposdly tumbles heavily upon impact with soft targets leaving massive internal injuries which are hard and in some cases impossible to treat.

I love the hst rounds. It’s what I carried overseas and in my personal g19.