How Many Rounds Will A 400 Dollar AR-15 Last? 

They probably used 20k in 5.56

@@Im7heon1yone not hardly. 5.56 is like $0.45-$0.60/round.

​@@MulletDestructur Still spent 3k In ammo on a 400.00 gun doing things it's not expected to do. And they weren't even upset at it. Good job PSA 👏 Test the jackel with an Fn barrel next.

People that say this don't train though.

Agreed. Or to put it another way, if I needed to have a guy back me up, I'd rather have a guy with a $400 rifle who's put in 10x the ammo in training, than a guy with a $3000 rifle who's done 1/10th the training of the first.

5k is fucki nothing lol

@@DevilDaRebelthey quite literally in this video said that it is.

​@@DevilDaRebel I've had my ar15 for about a year and have barely shot it lol, I don't think the average gun owner shoots that much

Yeah I feel entirely justified in having almost exclusively gone with PSA for my AR stuff. They fired more rounds in a couple days through that AR than I've fired my entire life. Going with PSA has allowed me to get a collection of rifles geared for different purposes/ranges and to arm other members of my family if need be. The odds of anyone ever losing a gunfight, should anyone ever get into one, due to the low cost of their AR rifle, are zero.

@@DevilDaRebel I shoot like 100rds/month on my AR. The guys I know shoot about the same or less.

This actually is pretty impressive.

Glad to hear, gonna look into buying one soon

Except that my freedom kit didn’t come with the happy switch, so it’s a semi freedom kit…..

Didn’t he review a radical firearms ar15 a while back? That’s a 400-500 dollar rifle right there

@@ryanhamstra49 My brother in Christ--become a machinist. If you can run a lathe, a Bridgeport style vertical mill, a surface grinder, and a drill press you can make almost anything...especially if you know how to weld too. And if you can run and program CNC you can really make anything...

100

Poor Army Rise!

I just realized for $600 (400+ the 200 because ATF demands its bribe) i could get a full auto PSA AR. I fuckin love this country

By the time one would reach the 5k limit, one can easily put the money towards a better barrel and bcg.

But what if a hoard of taliban come into my town. 😂

​@orbyboy123 that's only 20 range trips. That's less than a year

@@chiefkeef74 No, you're not. Any machinegun made after May 1986 cannot be possessed by civilians except those that hold dealer and/or manufacturers licenses.

it'll go even longer if you actually clean it and lube it well

@@burtdanams4426 And don't turn a carbine into an entrenched machinegun

I honestly wouldnt want one of those fancy pants ARs. I wouldn't feel to bad scratching my AR, but if it was the price of a used car I would

All good points! Hopefully more people see that and understand the value of cleaning and lubrication

lol, it didn't look shot out to me, needed a cleaning and replacing gas rings. who runs 6k without cleaning a barrel

I'd be curious how many people run 6k rounds in a year, much less 2 days with today's ammo prices. Thats $3k in a weekend.

Very good points. My rifles seldom get more than 100 rounds without a good cleaning.

people only hate on PSA cus its the cool thing to do... never had an issue with any \

😂❤

No matter how good you are at something, somewhere there's an Asian teenager that is already way better than you at it.

Asian phill and white Mike

" and right next to me magazine holder on my duty belt is my battle Asian "

Why was i thinking the same fuggin thing pahahahahaha

HAHAH I was dying at this part!

That game sucked lol.

Division 2 is gooder

@@misterfister7262👍🏻

since i saw that machine that autoloads mags, i have a new dream :)

@@thecursed01My dream would be just to keep that machine operating. 😁

@@thecursed01 my dream is to be able have the money to buy all these toys

i have neither the rights nor the income to buy guns anyway. that's why it's a dream @@seymourwrasse3321

@@seymourwrasse3321 As long as it's not Sig or Knights Armament. They both fund g*n control measures in the US.

Well said

Aah, back in the day when "accuracy through volume" was the norm.

​@@theblitz6838 That's still the case in modern times. Crew serves are the battlefield king. Pin the enemy down while you out maneuver them or hit them with kamikaze drones.

​@@theblitz6838western doctrine is fundamentally build upon fire superiority, which comes down to slinging more lead downrange then your opponent. Also one of the reasons the west went towards intermediate cartridges instead of the oldschool battle rifle calibers

I think what Colt was aiming for with the M16/M4 platforms was 3 MOA. I can’t be sure though.

It was the best part of the whole video. Most of the time I watch these and just end up having to explain to my wife my spending of money. This time I felt like I genuinely learned something, and feel a bit better about telling my wife I spent more money.

Agreed!

Your comment will never get lost. Gobbless

If you like it go check out School of the American Rifle. Chad probably taught the Asian guy everything he did. He gauges everything and will really show you what you don't know.

Yeah love that geeky Asian Phil dude and the 411...every gunfighter should be a nerd about his tool and know wtf is going on in there...

BREAKING NEWS! LARPers discover a $400.00 dollar upper is not quite as good as a $1500.00 dollar one. No shit Sherlock. Phil was awesome though.

They lubed it and cleaned it when it stopped running

Yeah, when it experienced failure. The entire point of the test was to see how quickly they could damage it (without forcing failure by just running 2000 rnds though it in 10 minutes).

not really good enough, the amount of metal shavings building up in the barrel from that amount of rounds accelerates wear by a insane amount. thing of a car cylinder filled with metal shavings. It should have been cleaned and pulled thru after at least every 300 rounds.@@Keka-vg3ut

That doesn't fix the barrel. But a good point in isolation

It proves that with $1500+ ARs you are mostly paying just for the brand name. There are some small innovations with feed ramps, extractors, and gas blocks that type of thing but for the money not worth it

The CEO of PSA said the quite part out loud when he revealed that the more expensive brands just charge more for their name. He stated this on a GOA podcast.

Apparently they used to or still do get their barrels from FN not sure how true that is today but my Freedom upper I got from them for like 180$ is seriously accurate and it's not free floated

@@crimsintigerx2837 so only there premium chromed lined rifle barrels are FN from my knowledge, I own a few of them and they shoot .3 groups with hand load 77g smks!!

@@crimsintigerx2837 that's mostly their higher grade guns. The lower grade guns are their own barrels as psa does have the ability to make most of the stuff in house. That being said 400 bucks for 5k rounds that's not bad. Especially when you factor in you can send it to PSA for warranty. Sure won't work in SHTF situation but if you go through 5k rounds and your still alive in that situation well you've probably picked up several more rifles along the way.

But for me... it was Tuesday!

Ammo is cheap. Found some reloads in my dead father's basement.

Nor will they run them anywhere near this hard and fast.

@Candyman757 We had a PSA PA-15 on our gun range, and it survived a few years of abuse and many thousands of rounds from the public. We had it sent back under warranty fixed like new.

@@SNKNostalgia You had to say dead? You couldn't just say, "My father's basement" RIP

They say that except they won't even bother selling to MA or DC, as behind the enemy lines as these 2 are that's just not cool.

@@StevenL00MA and DC residents need to fight for their rights first.

Why would you expect them to do something illegal that can have an affect on their ability to even make guns ​@@StevenL00

Assert your rights and maybe they will ship there again. @@StevenL00

​@@StevenL00don't blame PSA for that blame the law makers in those cities and states

yup for sure

Yes, lubrication is the killer for many parts as in lack of. I've seen top name brand AR's fail due to lack of lubrication at times within a magazine of ammo. Many times with brand new M16a2 and then later with M-4 carbines. Just from zeroing then jamming up on qualifications. That is 12 rnds to zero then 40 for qualification. Many didn't "want the rifles to get dirty" when I would be running qualifications ranges I would have a few 1 qt spay bottles of CLP then douse the bolt carrer down with a generous spray. Something I learned from shooting M2 50 cal back during "Cold War time" in Germany. Damn I'm old now after having been issued M16a1 though M4a1.. 😳

Just curious .. how are they getting a full auto version?

@@zx7-rr486 I'm not 100% sure, but it could be a forced reset trigger. They might have said how they did it, but I just wasn't paying attention

@@zx7-rr486 I believe you can get a stamp for it. Pretty sure if you're military, it's easier.

Yea that was 🤣

should call him euro mike. that would sting XD

My favorite quote of the video 💀

I lost it... lol

Typical event. Everyone better have thick skin or you wont last. If all they have his "Asian" he's in the club...

😂😂🫡🫡

Now, that’s funny!!😂

​@Bexar_Arms we need more Phil!

I was picking myself up off the floor after that one!!!! LOL

Phil was hilarious and really know his stuff.

so superior i may buy a shitbox because they had fun at our expense.

Why? Just curious.

I'd be curious to see how the M&P stacks up.

@@chadherrera704cause most people can easily afford it and everyone knows the 2000$ Daniel defense is going to be good, but what about the far cheaper option? Most people don’t know

I thought I was the only one

Happy to have been invited out and bring tools out to put some numbers on parts!

@@Bexar_ArmsI’ve been wanting one of your BCGs for so long why are they sold out 😭

Trailer park psa m4 won lol

@@mariodcreatorgaming8236 I got C158 BCG’s in stock right now!

Should check out School of the American Rifle. He does a really good job of gauging rifles.

Amen!!

Yes, those who have moral fiber

Except black

Nah

@@Porch412 no likey asians? Me love them long time lol

Bro when Mike goes, "thank you, asian Phil" he hit back instantly with, "You're welcome white Mike" sealed the deal. He was super insightful. Loved the info.

Yea no…. That was way too much

@@randysalvaje512you got soft hands brother

Wait so question which set up is this one in PSA?

I got the freedom upper it works pretty well for what it is

😂

No I didn’t put my shoes on no man couch I got more common sense then that…yea I put my feet on his couch. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. - Rick James

@@raulg.6643😂

They were letting it cool all the way down after every 2-3 mags he says that at the end

@@Banefulailmentexcept we’ll see a shit ton of mags get dropped and the daylight/ clothes are the same. I highly doubt they “let the rifle cool all the way back down” the math don’t math with the timeframe

i laughed for a solid min because of your comment 😂

Yeah that works until you get 4 out of those 7 rifles being pieces of trash from the factory. PSA still has major issues with QC, I agree with garand thumb in saying I like where PSA comes from but it's not particularly something that's viable, especially when you can get a SOLGW or BCM stripped lower and build it yourself for the same price range.

That’s pretty much what I’m hearing. With proper maintenance, like you are required to do in the military, it should last a regular person a lifetime... even in SHTF scenario.

@@meshuggahbingus8260 Have you been in the military? These rifles, especially with a regular maintenance schedule, will last and do better than the typical military rifle.

Or buy 4 Diamondbacks.

What you heard was it is almost decent...

It me. I’m common man

Very good for what the future holds.

Exactly, and they are running it with very adverse conditions, and it held up for that many rounds. PSA gained a fan boy today.

They should have chemically cleaned the barrel and tested it again. I mean it's not been cleaned for 6K rounds in mostly full-auto with a suppressor. The excessive heat makes the fouling even worse and the copper residue in the barrel was massive.

This rifle is also probly sent from factory to them cherry picking is a thing

You might not even need to spend $200. I think they have a lifetime warranty...

Nah just send it in for warranty

@@Thatguy-uk4ue shipping costs money. Ffl costs money. Warranty takes time. Just go buy an upper for $200.

yeah dude bros got a crazy boost of test

Damn straight it will take care of you back.

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I was in the Air Force for 10 years. They issued me a hotel room key before they issued me an M-4 or M16. But, as a gun nerd, I agree with you. This PSA gets a pass if you’re on a budget in my book. Clean it, add the proper amount of CLP, and you’ll be good to go.

Hey Marine, from another Marine, it is a RIFLE, not a F^&%king Platform. LOL. Otherwise I totally agree with you. I have an A1 variant, semi auto only that I hahve fired many rounds through, but I clean it thoroughly after each range session. Most I put through it at one time was 648 rounds. Not one hang up during that 648 round session. PSA makes an outstanding product for the price point, been using them for years... My A1 variant is not PSA but my A3 is. 20 inch barrel.

@@josephdixon1827From a Marine Dixon to another Marine Dixon, wassup

Well with the mount and red dot your like 2k lol

Optic should always cost more than your rifle.

Like it should be

​@@rustymacshackleford6276Says who?

​@@wishuhadmynamehard of reading? He just did

Car engine wear in normal exopatation and race is not the same.Racing burn engines for one hour.For some taxi driver same engine can last half bilion miles.Same thing is with gun barrel.They does not wear,they burn.If that barrrel last 5000 rounds in these extreme fulll auto test,that barrel would last 100K rounds for some hunter who shoots cold barrel mostly.

​@@smithsmithersen1646 I wouldn't even worry about lifespan on a home D system. I'd worry about reliability and size. Bigger hurts reaction time in all sorts of ways. If you're in Korengal Valley, you take something that engages 600 yards. If you're in your house, you take a PDW, imo.

The carbon is a problem but maybe not as much as the copper fouling when it comes to accuracy. There was so much copper in the barrel oxidizing it turned blue. So if they used some very serious copper remover and cleaned the snot out of it there is a good possibility the accuracy would have improved dramatically over the last group. I don’t care how expensive the upper costs if it is full of carbon and copper it isn’t going to group well at all.

Very true @Madhatter I was very impressed with the extreme conditions this barrel was put through. I have the nice stuff too. But I put the Freedom barrels through hell 😂. A second video with the copper fowling removed would be very interesting to see.

It was a good video… until The end. Maybe try cleaning the damn thing, then run it again.

$300 upper. $400 Rifle (according to them).

$500 on sale from what I saw for the rifle.

@@brendanberry7403 - I have never seen an AR cheaper than that $500 mark (retail). Which means the retailer/ FFL is making 50% of that at least I would guess.

DB15 is 450.00 . And I challenge any ANY Gucci gun 2500.00 plus. To the exact same challenge with the exact same shooting conditions. No cleaning,suppressed,full auto etc. Bet it doesn't last either.

Where do you see them for $450? Found an online site for $470 but it’s not counting their $20 handling fee, shipping and then the FFL fee. That can be $20-100 depending on where you go. I see they have a rural king exclusive, so not sure if you mean them if they discount them that much. Closest one to me is about 40 miles away so I typically forget they exist lol. They show $650 right now which is what I paid for my M&P.

Glad I could bring a different kind of knowledge to the video!

Yes more Phil that was very informative.

yes, I agree! His comments were remarkably educational for me.

@@Bexar_Arms the gun quant?

@@metubepick2008look up SOTAR (School of the American Rifleman) if you want more of that kind of in depth diagnosis and information.

And PSA's CEO said that's his purpose and he is an awesome man for that! My super hero!

It is good. People who think budget AR's are bad are like people who buy a Toyota camry and drive it into a pole and say "oh no it doesn't work anymore, I guess it's just a bad car". Take care of it same way you'd take care of any gun and it'll run how you need.

@@nateburns5933yeah, he claims to make the best for the cheapest price. He knows the price of all the parts at factory price. He just isn’t price gouging everyone

The 2A does not cater to poors.

Worth every penny.

From what I've experienced, the average guy who isn't competing in target shooting of some kind can't shoot as accurately as their equipment will allow, regardless of what they spent on the rifle.

Its funny how often i tell my customers to spend a few hundred bucks less on a gun and doing the same on the scope and reinvest every cent into ammo and train with it, and how nearly noone ever pays attention to it. Instead they buy extremly expensive firearms that rarely see 400 bucks worth of ammo.

I had a very similar experience with a traveling seal instructor a few years ago. Of course he has 20/20 vision. When he looked through my budget LVPO, he just about had a heart attack. I have very bad eyes and wear corrective lenses, so of course it was all blurry for him. He really kind of shit on my optic package right there in front of me. But later in the class, I was able to shoot a cleaner run that almost everyone else with way more name brand gear.

@@saltyexxer8253 yup. In my experience, for some reason, people struggle more with producing accurate rifle fire than they do with pistols. I've seen it in classes and in competitions. It's a strange phenomenon.

@uwesca6263 a close friend was spending emergency prep funds on his shooting setup a little while back. His wife had blessed it, so it was rare. He had a stash of ammo and a kitted out long gun. When asking me what armor he should buy with his 1k, I advised him to go take a rifle class first. He has no real-world experience at all. Did he listen to me? Nope. Bunch of armor gathering dust in his closet. He never wears it and still hasn't learned to run his rifle. People think they can buy skill too often.

How is he rocking full auto? Or at least simulating it?

he most likely has an ffl and was able to alter it@@shalafi71

@@shalafi71Just buy a full auto lower.

How and where?​@@lizardpeter

@@Karmaplays824 Many states in the USA. Just search them up online and look for auctions.

Most veterans that I know... mostly use PSA builds... for the price... they really don't care... It works....

This. Outfitting 5 men in my family with a basic red dot and 7 mags for a little bit more than money than JUST a Daniel Defense or other Gucci ARs is a win. Reminder, this is PSAs cheapest offering...6000 rounds cost $2500 or more depending on what you buy. Sometimes quantity is better than quality.

Like Stalin said, sometimes quantity has a quality all of its own. ​@@Vicarium

What's the rules of a gunfight?. 1, Have a gun. 2, Bring your mates who have guns.😁 Plus two is one and one is none. So $400 PSAs will do the job.👍🏻 And in a real world defensive shooting your gun will be in evidence for a while....

And even with that, if you have replacement parts on hand for everything consumable on it, you're going to he fine for a good while.

He’s a shooter of targets and seed

Bro got big. I need to work out

So he is Gynecologist

@@Grey_Fox_Six his dad advice a couple months ago "get ape shit fuck jacked" really stuck with me and it helped me get back in the gym.

Any rifle can be out of spec no matter the cost..Most AR's on the market won't meet mil spec tolerances, (including the more expensive ones) let alone surpass them..

I miss that. Also miss "most often forgotten but most certainly not by me"

I miss skinny non-bearded Garand Thumb.

I think leviathan made them put an end to that. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

​@@UnknownUser-fe5zu idk who that is but they should no longer be involved

Without the really bad tattoos he has@@maximusprimus827

Exactly that's what I feel was missing from this video. Granted, they can't do every rifle, but doing the same thing apples to apples with the PSA then a "mid" upper, then premium upper would have been more illuminating.

Amen.

Whats a good upper? I want to build my own and i need a list of parts ill need. Does the lower even matter? Which parts would you choose to build a nice ar 15?

@@scripteazeDepends on how you define “good” and the type of ammo you’re shooting. For a complete upper, there are tons of premium uppers from the likes of Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Knights Armament, and the list goes on… Colt would be considered mid-end. Much of it depends on things like barrel twist rate, depending on the grain of the bullets being sent, suppressed vs not…… Too many variables in the equation. That’s why custom builds can be tricky. If you’re just going with your run of the mill mil-spec 55 or 62 grain ammo, then you’re often not getting the benefit of some of the more expensive upper setups. Edit: The lower takes far less abuse so, you can go much cheaper. However, your tolerances with how the upper mates with the lower can come into play that can factor in many ways. Some may fit loose and have wobble and improper fitment with the upper. This can bring forth some issue when having Frankenstein builds. Sometimes it’s best to buy a decent mid grade complete rifle and, upgrade things like the trigger group, bcg, and barrel, buffer tube/spring to the specs that you desire.

@@scripteazeBCM is the go to for higher tier builds. Aero Precision is a pretty good mid-tier option IMO. There's a lot of things that go into durability and reliability with ARs but if anything do not cheap out on your upper.

Yea

Yes. We’ve been getting ripped off on the $1,500-$2,500 guns.

That and some Gucci companies *cough H&K cough* have absolutely dog shit customer service

@@king_tv2204 HK hasn't put a modern firearm on the US market for like 40 years

@@generalgreevus8773 hk 23 made in the 90s but yeah seem a few people that had some issue with it on gun pages, said they’re shit people and say it’s something they did is why the gun is broken

that's the whole fucking point

Thanks Biden

​@@lithium1770yeah you gotta explain everything nowadays to toddlers.

yes thaat would mean the fecal matter has hit the propeller. Thats why the 2nd Amandent was written.

@@lithium1770right?

Adjustable gas blocks don't increase barrel port pressure, they can only reduce port pressure..Adjustable gas blocks only work with over gassed rifles..

Would you expect anything different from the Thumb??

Check out "School of the American rifle" if you're in to the details.

Look up school of the American rifleman. It’s an actual gunsmith who deep dives into the specs of AR’s and show you what’s good and what’s bad in manufacturing

But why run it suppressed?

They contradicted themselves at the end. They didn't shoot the barrel out at all. That rifle would still run. Definitely if you tossed another $50 BCG in. I'm guessing they ran out of ammo and or interest in taking it any further. Didn't Rob Ski put 10k through his PSA freedom rifle years ago?

Dropping our EP soon ™️

lol sounds dorky, don’t go there

I'm an Asian Phil, hey!

⁠@@mastershaw3094 no it doesn’t, it sounds awesome

@@mastershaw3094 you’ve obviously never heard of the legendary MC Miker G and DJ Sven.

I think if maintence was done more often it would have done ever better!

yes more Phil, I learned so much in this one

​@@buckaroobonsi555and that's the thing, you'd HOPE people do more maintenance than this, so it definitely leans on the extreme side of tests. BUT. there are guns that hold up under worst torture. So it's a good area to explore durability and abuse in a short amount of time

All this Phil knowledge is simply school of the american rifle knowledge transfers from shad. You'd think they'd give a shout out

Damn straight, 100% agree

Yep I agree with you 1000%

If i were privileged enough to I would legit have my fancy range gun and a couple of these for SHTF. Good to have a spare and for 300 bucks that is mad cheap. I just bought a straight pull (laws suck here) and it cost me close to 2.5k USD for the upper and lower combined.

I'm just really confused why SOMEONE is so important. Seems like a weird part of the sentence to shout for emphasis.

You could honestly just spend $25 on a solgw bolt upgrade kit and and be good to go. I’m honestly impressed.

They do a fine job.

Yea like genuinely as a giga chump who wants a rifle for doomsday prepping I will never be let down by my rifles

💯

@hk93shooter Just stop. Stop repeating that "common use" nonsense invented by SCROTUS. Shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed, whether "common use" or not. F Scalia, F Thomas. And F clowns who lie about Heller and Bruen being "big 2A wins" when they actually uphold infringements. “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, AND EVERY OTHER TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE SOLDIER, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” -Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

Why the fuck would I buy rifles for ‘friends or family’? If they don’t already have their own, they’re just a liability.

@@andrews2990 you should listen to Mike, at the end of his videos, when he talk about people adopting some shitty mindsets.

@@andrews2990terrible mind set. if you never got in to guns you’d be a liability too. Pass down knowledge and experience…

I hear the Russians give one or two mags per cannon fodder in each firefight. So ya, under 5k rounds is reasonable for us in SHTF scenario.

@@daniellecrescitelli8251the Russians are only given 2 mags? 😭

@@luisuribe5432 just grab the empties off your dead comrades 🤐

@@daniellecrescitelli8251 You imagine the Russians as our enemy. That's funny.

Joey is the president of Russia?