Heh. HEH. Man, you should watch Higurashi. I'ts literally the same idea, but as a horror/drama/murder mistery anime instead. And it's awesome. The SN is awesome too. The anime aired around the same time Haruhi's anime aired. And funnily enough, it also got new entries recently, Higurashi Gou and Higurashi Sotsu. I have yet to watch Sotsu though.
As somebody that's never watched Haruhi, Endless Eight sounds like a really interesting idea on paper that does not surprise me at all would make an absolutely miserable viewing experience in practice.
I actually enjoyed watching it. Even on its own, it's a solid episode that I don't mind revisiting. Going through it all in one sitting is probably not as fun though.
same, the idea of a time loop spanning across different episodes would be interesting but only if there was enough change to make a whole different episode about it. they could have fixed this if the loop wasn't the full episode and possibly happen twice or something to really show that to the audience watching the one episode, and the eight episode thing is obsurd, anything more than two episodes for something like this feels like way too much for a series with 14 episodes however after all of this, i am probably going to try and find this just because time loops and other time shenanigans alike are super interesting to me and have so much potential to be really interesting
I got sick after watching it. I binged it the whole time. Quit immediately after this arch and can't watch it with out a migraine now. I don't know why. My brain just said no more.
I feel like the problem wasn't the repetition; it was the wait. In this binge-watching age, I feel like releasing all 8 of them at once would be better received as an artistic, risky, move. Releasing them weekly is straight up stupid, maddening, a bad move.
@@Ranixo286Haruhi's first season was out of chronological order. S2 ran all 8 E8 episodes in order. And they were 8/14 episodes, so they ruined the season anyway.
I think if they were binged, though, then the real-life effect of the time loop (as mentioned in the quote under "epilogue") would have been lost. I still don't think it should have been a full eight weeks, but four weeks at least would have been effective at driving the point home, and you can only do that in broadcasting, not in binge consuming. There are a lot of shows that lose something when binged versus broadcasted. There are shows that also gain something when binged versus broadcasted, but I think people forget that there is a significant benefit to drip-feeding the audience weekly.
I Remember watching It for the First Time. At First i was like :damn they Just repeated an episode once? That's Genius from plot wise" then they repeated It 7 more times
@@luigirock96 But the Ghost Stories dub was legendary. Of course, it makes sense that they wouldn't want that to happen with (what used to be) a big name series like Haruhi. With Ghost Stories it was a very different situation. The Japanese studio KNEW they were signing over a dud, so they named virtually no requirements for the nature of the localization.
Endless Eight is a brilliant case-study for anyone that wants to learn more about directing, tone-setting and visual styling in anime and other media. You get 8 episodes of the same stuff, but every episode has a different mood to it. Its brilliant. However for the average anime watcher its a waste of time.
@@zomegaexalpha4708 its the most genious waste of time ever. the directing job to every episode is different in feel and gives more insight but its still the same episode 8 times and you dont really miss anything by skipping like 80% of it still love it though
"The average anime watcher" I can just smell the pretentiousness lmao. This arc would have been fine if it was half its length, I even agree that the cute summer vacation turned cosmic horror is cool at first, but 8 episodes of the SAME. DAMN. THING. is too much. It's a massive waste of time b/c it overstays its welcome, interesting premise aside.
Hell Higurashi does Looping FAR better than Endless 8 probably because the entire franchise was built around the concept and the different arcs are so different and well different genre. In Haruhi this was just done in the most obnoxious way possible.
Is actually cool, watch first season, then second but ignored 6 episodes of endless 8, watch the first and the last of endless 8.... and watch the movie IS COOOOOL, the movie is amazing
They would actually have to watch the first, second and eight episode of endless eight since it's until the second episode that they realize that they're on a time loop
It wasnt !!!! Imaging waiting a WHOLE week to wacth your favorite anime to watch same episode AGAIN, whoeever was after thia dessition was dumb, if only they change stuffs so fans could enjoynthat but NOOOOO
While the repetition of that song is probably worse all at once, "What's New Pussycat" by Tom Jones is only a little over 2 minutes long so playing that 21 times amounts to the length of only 2 renditions of Endless Eight. ^_^
I think the true unsung heroes of endless 8 are the people who were tasked to animate 8 different versions of what is basically the same thing for months. People praise the directors and the writers for this decision but if watching the same episode 8 times was already enough of a drag, imagine having to _animate_ the same lines and activities over and over and over again. Holy shit. Keep on trucking, Kyoani.
I'm less angry and more impressed at KyoAni's dedication to trolling. They re-recorded and re-animated every episode from scratch; Endless Eight must be the most expensive prank ever.
@Wholesome Convos Only Given that spinning off the Disappearance arc into a movie was what let them do Endless Eight like this in the first place, are there any story arcs that would have been worth adapting if they did a more condensed version of Endless Eight? I'm not familiar with Haruhi so I wouldn't know. 3 episodes does seem like a reasonable length for a condensed version of Endless Eight though.
I'd be harsher on the arc if it were Literally the same episode eight times, but the fact that they had to re-record dialogue and re-animate every scene for each episode really elevated it in my opinion. It put the audience themselves inside the same time loop as the characters, a rarity in time loop stories that allowed us to feel the same despair and desperation. However, by the same token, this meant that it ultimately became almost a form of torture, and at best was simply... boring.
I remember going through it when it came out, and boy, I don't care how much time and effort they had put into making each episode from scratch and rerecording every line of dialogue, that was such a drag to go through, and the anticipation that it would finally end this week, only for it to be just another loop without a conclusion, over and over again felt like a chore more than anything. And when it FINALLY ended, I didn't feel accomplished or happy for the characters, nor hyped for the following week. I just felt empty. Endless Eight had killed the hype for the next episode after it reached its conclusion. It was so bad, I don't remember anything that happened in S2 aside from Endless Eight...
I don't get it because for people who aren't into anime taking big swings there are a million boring by-the-book anime out there that will surely delight them with new throwaway monsters of the week or whatever. The real tragedy would have been KyoAni not taking any real chances and just cashing in on the S1 hype. Bet all the chronological viewers and MAL voters would have loved that dark timeline.
@@professionalfangster1510 Then you have 6 episodes be the same, 7th episode run the different version that breaks the cycle, and then an 8th one to show the next day.
@@Nadia1989 Anime often does things where it shows you the same story from different perspectives and it's often interesting. Wolf rain just must be not very good.
@@maximusstorm1215 It was a good anime, the "repeating day" thing was an important point to let you get connected to each character and see how they met. It wasn't that bad, I personally enjoyed the show.
@@KingOfGaymes ...is it bad that I actually miss that bygone era of absolute overwhelming cringe? There's a certain...beautifully oblivious innocence to saying something THAT stupid.
I remember watching the endless eight arc in one sitting and it felt like an eternity But it was quite a study of how you spot differences in details and visual style between each episode.
I also binged it in one watch. I think you have to keep in mind the little details and just live with the moments to enjoy it. Rather than complaining and thinking that it's boring, think of it as eight subtle episodes, in which slight changes are hidden and it's your job to find them and understand the plot.
@@lizardstep5177 if it's boring, it's not enjoyable. I would rather play spot the difference than watch the same episode for 3 hours straight, but I did anyways.
The real tragedy of Endless Eight is that they missed the chance to animate Snowy Mountain Syndrome, a much more interesting short story that was in the same volume as EE. It takes place after Disappearance chronologically, but it would've been fully understandable despite that, and it's not like the directors actually cared about showing events in order anyway.
I think that if they allowed the English dub voice actors to swap roles or do funny voices instead of keeping it the same, it would have went down as another ghost stories.
VA's doing the episodes as past characters they've done, episodes randomly taking a Chicago gangster feel, there was so many ways it could have been saved.
Might be able to stretch it out into four if you add a couple more plot points. First the og loop, second is becoming aware of it and major confusion, third is working to get out of the loop and maybe a plot twist reveal, and fourth is the big conclusion. Again, only works if you have enough material to do that.
@@darkestccino5405 what makes it less sad is the studio learned literally nothing and once back togther went right back to doing shittey things which wow just wow i guess the actual people making the horrible descions wernt in the fire which is fing sad bad people always seem to get away with it while innocent suffer for there actions
@@ravenpreston1032 id rather her not its really not that intresting just another case of a isolated hermit getting to attached to a character and going out on a rampage it really was so sterotypical
Binge watchers today just don't understand how frustrating this was to watch. You would wait a whole WEEK to find out that the arc hadn't ended. Imagine if HBO had done something similar w/GOT or some other popular weekly streaming series. Fans would've burned buildings to the ground!
I don't get how anyone could have expected anything BUT eight episodes after episode 3. If they didn't end it in episode 3, they would go and make it 8. It's in the name 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, I once thought "why not just skip those unnecessary episodes when binging?" but then I realize that's not an option when watching it live on a weekly basis lol. It's one of those things where you have to be there to understand even more of the pain
The didn't really draw the same thing 8 times. Each time they changed up outfits and the perspective from which things were done. But they could have saved lots by having the voice actors just record the lines once since those remained almost identical.
@@RedBardIsCool The Endless 8 literally made me despair. What did the creators think? And why is the Light Novel not yet animated yet? It's not like the show has nothinig more to cover left!! When is one of the best anime ever made going to continue? Or is that question not allowed??
This sounds like it could have been a really promising idea if they had changed more things between each episode. As is, it sounds so. freaking. annoying.
@@Lee-fw5bd Thing is, I think it could've been both annoying *and* entertaining. But the way it played out sounds nothing *but* annoying and that's not fun.
@@arqueiroXD You don't know how right you are. I was a huge fan at the time, and didn't want to miss a second of the 14 episodes that we were getting. So I felt like I was being waterboarded with each Endless Eight episode. 2, even 3 episodes I could have understood. It's hard to understand waiting a week each time, and watching the whole episode waiting for some progress. I didn't want to skip anything. But I couldn't take it and eventually tapped out. I felt like a bad fan. I eventually googled the season to see what had happened, and found out when the episodes ended, so I could start from the last episode of Endless Eight and watch the rest of the season. To this day, I hate Endless Eight. I like the animations, the content, the day, the interactions, the outfits, everything...except for the fact that it was a repetitive loop, over and over again. I wanted to like it. I did like all the hard work that went into it. But it was a slap in the face that sears to this day. And I can't understand people who like it, except that they are goofy and contrarian. :D Luckily, the movie was everything that we wanted, and was a great finale, so to speak, since we haven't had much since then. I was more than satisfied, which just highlights Endless Eight more, wedged between the great first season and the great movie. We know they can do great things, and even many parts of Endless Eight show that charm. But that makes it worse when you know that they are purposefully holding back, making it worse than it could be, wasting our time and love. I've forgiven the franchise for Endless Eight, but it is still a scar on my heart, and I will never be able to forget it.
I remember when the Endless Eight was airing I was only 10. We'd loved the first season so my dad would watch bootlegs with us as soon as he could get them. I remember being absolutely dumbfounded at how long it went, but getting so invested in cstching what the differences were. We even figured out it was the homework!!! I can still remember to this day when she did that heel turn we literally jumped off the couch and started cheering and hugging each other. What an unreal commitment to a bit, I loved it so much
i went through a personal hell with these, cracked a tooth, the same week i had a wisdom tooth removed, while dealing with the amount of pain and dizzyness from meds i tripped and twisted my ankle and i couldn't walk or speak after, my mom felt bad and put in one of my dvd's which happened to be these episodes, i was in so much pain i wasn't really concerned what was playing on the tv and tried to sleep through it, i'd wake up every hour in pain, then see an episode, drift back to sleep to wake up in pain and see the same or a similar episode, over and over and over again.
I had a pretty weird experience just involving watching anime. I remember one of the times I tried and failed to watch Kaiji... I was going to sleep, but kept trying to stay up long enough to watch more, and eventually it got to the point where I thought I remembered watching more, but I really didn't, and I think I tried to watch more after I got up. Things in my head and what was on screen obviously didn't line up. It was a really weird experience, probably involving hallucination.
Honestly the fact that "having a love life" counts as a huge scandal for Japanese/South Korean stars enrages me. The kind of fans who obsess over "being with" someone famous who doesn't even know they exist/let alone date, and send death threats over an individual's freedom to choose and live like an individual pisses me the f*ck off. Grow up, separate fantasy from reality.
Yeah, this was one thing that was deeply upsetting to me to hear. I was a kid so I didnt really follow anime super closely, but I did love season 1 of Haruhi and that once dance game a lot. Ended up really getting attatched to Aya Hirano's voice and all, but hearing now that people "disgraced" her for just having a boyfriend? Jesus thats so disgusting. Thats just so so awful. Really cannot stand idol culture or the general ideas of purity surrounding women in society at all.
Yeah, I'll never get how people actually expect to get with their celeb crush. It's even worse in the kpop fandom. I like Bts and all but I don't wanna date them. I'd be hella happy if they got gfs or bfs just to piss off the little kids who thought they could get with them and cleanse the fandom. I get fantasizing about them (which i still find weird but whatevs) but they gotta learn how to face reality.
@@NeoNovastar I think the issue wasn't so much that she had a boyfriend, but that pictures had leaked of her having a gang bang session with her band (minus the drummer), which I think would be even worse for an idol's reputation. Don't get me wrong though, I could not give two shits who a celebrity is dating or fucking behind closed doors. I find it pretty interesting how that sort of thing can impact your entire career in Asia, but in America it's seen as interesting gossip at worst, and at best can boost someone's career.
Endless eight could only be acceptable in a binge-watching format, where you have time to spot all the differences and can fast forward or just skip to the eighth episode. Week by week it would be excruciating. Heck, even three episodes of that would be too many, I have no idea how EIGHT could have possibly seemed like a good idea.
Binge-watching it, as I just did, wasn’t all that bad. I definitely lost steam after three, but it wasn’t horrendous - just overstayed its welcome. But watching one episode and then waiting a week, knowing you’d be doing this for the next two months? I would simply stop watching.
@@RetepAdam How much time y'all got to waste watching the same thing over and over? Because I don't fuck with that. Endless eight is the same exact episodes, different skins. I'm not just watching to be entertained, I'm watching with the expectation that what I'm watching is actually GOOD and worth my time. Think of how much content we could get in place of endless eight? Even without endless eight, the entire episodic series is very mid. I don't get what people see in the show. All I ever saw was ruined potential and mixed feelings, most of them negative. Every character is just an archetype and hardly anything more. Except Haruhi, the extra spicy Tsundere who's just an asshole to everyone.
I also binged all 8 episodes. Well, when I say "binged" I mean "watched the first 3 episodes then when I caught on to what was happening I just left it in the background while I did other stuff." And I gotta say, that moment when Kyon FINALLY steps out and screams at Haruhi, that felt absolutely amazing. Compounded by the frustration from the previous few episodes that had the exact same moment where Kyon nearly does something but ultimately doesn't. I saw people say that they recommend new viewers just watch the first and last episode. The problem with that is that would immediately spoil to the new viewer the surprise of the endless loop, and it would also rob them of that feeling of pure satisfaction when Kyon finally does something.
Love it or hate it. Props to this anime for making the words “I haven’t finished my homework” be some of the most powerful, epic, and relieving words I have heard in the history of anime.
@@nikolaitheundying No haha. In Japan the students are given homework to do in the summer, the studious and responsible ones, like Haruhi, do them all in the first days of vacations while some try to cram them all in the day before school starts again. The time loop happened because Haruhi had some desire she wanted to be fulfilled despite relieving that last day of vacation countless times, and at the last second Kyon discovered that it what she wanted was to experience doing homework in the summer with her classmates. So it's not that Kyon didn't want to admit that he didn't do his homework, just that admitting was the hidden desire of Haruhi.
@@nikolaitheundying Because Haruhi didn't realize herself she had this desire, as she always finished homework alone in the first days of vacations instead of cramming with her friends in the last day.
The Endless 8 literally made me despair. What did the creators think? And why is the Light Novel not yet animated yet? It's not like the show has nothinig more to cover left!! When is one of the best anime ever made going to continue? Or is that question not allowed??
@@valletas I think it's because the time loop wasn't the real problem, but them stretching a short story into 8 episodes. If they did this with other kind of story people would hate it almost the same, being forced to watch a very short story with a lot of filler while wanting them to adapt your favorite arc.
I honestly thought I missed episodes. Since, back in the day, we had to watch it on questionable sites I thought there was something wrong with the uploads. I wish it were something wrong with the uploads.
Same and I saw it on Funimation. I was like didn't I saw this already until I skipped around and coincidentally skip to new scenes in the second episode.
A good director could have done an amazing job with this idea An mistery anime were in every episode everything happens the same way, but different, characters talked in a cafe at 6pm? Next episode they talk about a completely different subject at a bar at 6pm and all of it combined works with solving the mystery
my internet died at the perfect moment in the middle of the "antici.... pation" joke and it took me at least five seconds to realize the video had actually stopped XD
Have you ever watched Council of Geeks? Their video about The Rocky Horror Picture Show starts off with the “shiver with antici-” line, and then it stops for an AD BREAK before you get the “-pation.” Even though I know RU-vid sometimes puts ad breaks right after a video's intro, that one was FAR too exact to have been a coincidence.
@@Radien TSomeone made a twitter account, posted like 3 RHPS related posts, then made a post with "Antici--"... Then came back FIVE YEARS LATER to deliver the rest.
My headphones slipped at that moment, so I thought it just briefly disconnected from my laptop and then reconnected. Didn't even realize it was intentional until I read this...
I feel very conflicted on the endless eight. On one hand, it really drives the point across of the hopelessness of the situation and makes you feel how unlikely it was for the cycle to end. But on the other hand, it's just the same episode 8 times
That's why MONTAGE scenes exists in shows and movies, you don't have to see Dr Strange bargaining to dormammu each time, instead splice in montages with the movie score to imply how much time he have gone through. This is stupidly useless of an arc, however i felt less mad knowing its a troll by the creators (allegedly)
@@haveidonethisbefore they were different enough to not be boring to me and I was kind of dissapointed how quickly the segment was over. Not saying it was the wrong choice, I just personally would not have minded
Watched Haruhi for the first time in 2014 and loved the Endless Eight, blissfully ignorant of the all the insanity surrounding it, and this video has been incredible detailing all of the history behind it. I can't imagine how different my perception of it would've been if I was eagerly watching it week-by-week after waiting years for it.
I would have hated it if I was watching it as a seasonal and I really don't think they needed a full 8 episodes to get the same effect. Still a cool watch after the fact.
@@mamaharumi it's even more special when you realize the show was broadcasted out of chronological order, but the Endless Eight still aired back-to-back
I was there when it happened, watching it week by week... Endless Eight killed the hype for the following episodes so hard for me, I can't even remember what happened after it was over, even though I can recall vividly the first season and the spin-offs without any trouble.
The real tragedy is that switching the voice actors around each episode in the endless eight arc would've probably made this arc a memorable watch (or at least an extremely funny experience).
Or a friend that recommended the anime to you and didn't tell you about it being a loop and lied to you till you skipped ahead LMAO so I kinda feel your pain.
I can confirm that in theory I think it is a clever idea and I was not mad at it only because I could skip it until the torture ended. That being said, it was still a very stupid idea. 8 weeks of the same thing?? Of course people would be mad!
I agree, I first watched Haruhi years afterwards, knowing that Endless Eight was a thing, and knowing which episode to skip to if I got sick of it, and I thought it was great. But I imagine having no choice and just having it dropped on you would be crap.
It was a good idea for the people animating it I suppose. Less effort, less money spent, even if money and time were not really a problem for them thanks to the massive success of the anime... and massive patience their audience had.
This is pretty hilarious from an outsider's point of view. That said I can't imagine the frustation it must have been to sit through 8 weeks of this, still funny though
In a post streaming era, where everyone is used to binge watch entire seasons of everything as if they were full length movies, I think that this way of presenting the storyline would have been very interesting and artistic, and it would invite fans to catch up on the subtleties of every episode and have fun with it, I mean at the end of the day you can watch 8 episodes of anything and be done before dinner no problem, dont touch the remote and let the autoplay do it's thing... BUT FOR A SHOW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSMITTED WEEKLY????? Whoever made that decision smoked a fat one. I don't know how they didn't expected that reaction from the fans. GOD that sounds like torture.
@@AlmightySmorg i mean yes im with you, but it at least would work as a cool way of presenting the problem of the arc Im sure most people would just skip some parts, also, because you are totally able to do that in a streaming setting, but i admit that it would be almost as annoying
I was part of a small Lucky Star-based fan community when Endless Eight was airing, and the collective frustration throughout the arc and eventual relief when Kyon broke the loop was one of the greatest community experiences I've ever had as an anime fan. Fact: I didn't watch E8's final episode until it was VERY late at night, around midnight or so. So when Haruhi turned around and went "Huh?", I legitimately screamed so loud that it woke up my family lol.
Imagine if we finally got a 2nd season of Panty and Stocking and it's just 13 episodes of the postscript of the last S1 episode repeating with different camera angles and animation styles
That would be great lmao I was a big fan of s1 but the fact that the tease for season 2 was so obviously a joke makes me want it to actually come out and be totally terrible, as a continuation of that joke
@@The_Phoenix_Saga Considering what happened to the studio this reply leaves a distasteful print, us casual watcher don't always know specifically who was affected that day but this could be a reply that's just heartless in my opinion
@@lite4998 I don't think you know about what happened with that studio, a hateful fan took it to himself to arson attempt to burn it down. yall going "whoever did this whole episode repeats over and over" should be blacklisted and never work in anime again, when they couldve very well died that day, is fucked to think with that mindset if you're aware of the events.
I was there. I experienced Endless Eight live. It was glorious. The screams, the tweets, the forum threads and tv tropes discussions. The memes. People slowly but surely losing their minds. For a brief, yet much too long moment in that fateful summer we all were truly. Yuki Nagato.
Yeah it was a horrible experience wating week after week just to get the fricking same episode! But hold on cause i love Yuki Nagato so much. Then Disappereance of Haruhi happened and those weeks of suffering added more to understanding Nagato's character and it broke me when kyon realized it was her doing. It was just really heartbreaking
@@WonderSparkPuppets1 I don't know. Even from the first season I'm pretty sure the whole point of that anime was to make the most unlikable protagonist possible. Haruhi has absolutely no redeeming qualities and if you watched the actual first 6 episodes in order instead of airing order it would be even more apparent. The endless 8 is just doubling down on seeing how much bullshit otaku will put up with for "fanservice."
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 There's a limit to everything, there's a point where people get too frustrated and you can ruin your show, which clearly happened with this 2nd season. Like it would also be frustrating to watch basically the same ep 100 times but would you even care about it anymore? You just become too frustrated and annoyed and you drop it. Maybe if they would've done it for like 3 eps it would've worked, but what they did was a HUGE loss and people calling it "genius" only find it funny now years later and have no idea what "genius" means. If ruining your show and annoying fans so much that they drop the show is "genius" then oh boy
My mind is BLOWN at the idea that the arc in the light novel only lasts one chapter. I know sometimes adaptations have a bad habit of milking small scenes/details from the source material into a much too long and useless subplot, but... that's INSANE. Fun fact: I never finished season 2 because I got so bored during Endless Eight that I needed a break... and then forgot to start watching again to this day. Oops?
Yeah, I had to tap out during Endless Eight as well. I did google the season to see what the hell happened, and managed to pick up where Endless Eight left off. The movie won back my heart, but to this day I hate Endless Eight. :D
Same as you, but because I watched it so late at night and I was trying to stay awake, I thought I was watching the same episode again and again and I thought I was going crazy.
@@clonezero_RR I skipped around the episodes to see, if anything is changing. It took me until now, to realize that it actually was 8 episodes. I thought it's only 4.
It's honestly beyond weird. I mean, cool, let's do the Groundhog to Haruhi. Can work. But... why like this? If you change the way the original LN does it, why make it a 8x22 minutes loop of basically the same thing?
I honestly really fucking adore this idea when I consider it completely divorced from the state of the show at the time. Like releasing eight episodes that are all nearly identical to each other just to really drive in that the cast is in a timeloop? It's so big brained and honestly funny as hell. But when you consider that they were released once per week over the course of a few months and were contained in a season just less than half the length of the endless eight arc that fans were waiting two years for? That seems pretty cruel and I can see why fans would be angry about that. I definitely know if I were watching the show live at that time I would have been really mad at pretty much anyone responsible for the move lmfao
I would have hated the Endless Eight treatment if they'd saved money on it, but the fact they made a choice to fully animate it really made me back the choice at the time. It really puts you in the headspace of Yuki. Sometimes I think that me and one of my friends were the only two fans who liked it at the time. The rest of my friends no only hated it, but doubled down on the hatred afterwards by saying it's the only reason the series died.
I actually got a weirdly masochistic pleasure out of this arc. One day I had to finish a huge programming assignment that'd I'd procrastinated (like with every assignment...), and for some reason I decided that the best way to take breaks from coding was to watch the endless eight while running in place (that's how I got my exercise when the weather was shitty). I started around 4 PM, and kept going until about 8 AM the next day when the assignment was due. Suffice it to say that between the lack of sleep, coding, coffee, self-loathing, and binging episodes of the endless eight, I was a mental case by the time morning rolled around. You know that weird mind state where anything and everything is hilarious? That was me for about 12 hours straight, watching the endless eight--the entire thing at once... I just couldn't believe they actually had the balls to recycle the same damn episode eight times in a row, and I was tickled to death by it. To me, the endless eight represents one of the most memorable nights/mornings of my life. I can't really say it was fun, but it was hilarious. XD
I absolutely loathe computer coding with a fiery passion that can barely be described with words except perhaps mindnumbingly tedious and boring. However; I hated Endless 8 WORSE Than Coding and at least computer code can actually be useful...
I’m a procrastinator too like I thought I was irredeemable and hopeless, but you… I hope I don’t ever reach your level of procrastination. I’m praying for you 🙏
On one hand, it really immerses you into the time loop. I mean, imagine how Nagato felt after 638 years of that. Plus it shows how hopeless the situation is and really drives home how it's not just a short montage, but years and years of the same 2 weeks. On the other hand, I understand how waiting 2 months for what was (essentially) the same episode over and over would break your love for a series
Haruhi Suzumia is an odd girl who hates her boring life and is obsessed with trying to meet an otherworldly being like an alien, a time traveler or an esper so she can have fun with them. She starts a club at school called the SOS Brigade to try and find one and ropes in some other students to help her. However, she is completely unaware that the classmates she picked were ACTUALLY an alien, a time traveler and an esper all in disguise and who have a mission to monitor Haruhi as she supposedly has a hidden power that could change the universe And yes believe it not doing homework is what frees them from a 595 year long time loop.
The main plot about Haruhi Suzumiya is that the titular protagonist, desperately wants to be the protagonist of an anime/manga. The irony being that she's the only one in her group that's unaware that she already is, to an extent. She was the cause of the time loop because she subconciously wanted to tick all of the classic "Summer holiday" tropes, including doing your homework together with friends, since nobody would do that, she would unknowinly reset the universe until they ticked that box.
during the endless eight, the characters came as close as they ever could to being honest about their feelings. the agony of the endless eight would have been worth it for even just a sideways exploration of their relationships even without any depth to it. life is too short to spend it without developing our relationships, but instead of even just acknowledging that, it resolved as a throwaway joke with the characters changing nothing about themselves.
The resolution isn't exactly KyoAni's fault. That's exactly how this story ended in the light novel. The light novel just only showed the last loop instead of 8 of them.
@@littlemoth4956 They're talking about the character development that happened during the story. That element was in the original. If you don't like that the character development ended with a cheap joke and none of the development sticking, that's just how the story was written in the first place before it was ever animated.
@@Eamil It's still kind of their fault, because they could've easily just changed the resolution or just not made the same episode eight times as filler.
@@Eamil And I'm saying they could have made it 3 episodes instead of 8. Maybe have multiple cycles in one episode. Either way I'm saying if they knew the resolution was a joke, why make it longer than it needed to be?
Endless Eight part 1 Endless Eight part 2 Endless Eight part 3 Endless Eight part 4 Endless Eight part 5 Endless Eight part 6 Endless Eight part 7 Endless Eight part 8 "Korega REQUIEM da"
I remember trying to watch the whole thing, to get a tiny feel of what Yuki went through. I could barely handle 7, and poor Yuki had to do it over 15k times! It’s no wonder she eventually snapped 😭
@@JuicedLeaf It's implied there were some other factors but yeah Endless 8 was a major contributing factor for Yuki Nagato evolving and getting emotions which led to disappearance and some interesting stories post disappearance.
2:05: How Endless Eight Became one of the Most Hated Arcs in Anime History 10:36: While Endless Eight Aired 24:12: After Endless Eight Aired 35:16: Epilogue
"Endless Eight is either a stroke of genius or a waste of time" I remember how KyoAni made feel in Kyon's skin, all nervous and lost, really wishing he could remember what was lacking to break the cycle E V E R Y T I M E, just to go back to bed after, faithless and without any hopes left at the end of each episode, imagining if next week he'd nail it. It was a dense and frustrating feeling.
@@SirEriol I cried for Yuki after watching Disappearence; I'd probably still feel moved about the movie regardless; but having -watched- endured Endless8 (and being in the shoes of Yuki for 8 eps).... the accumulated feels got to me.
Exactly what Rakasiwiii fiddihaq said. This should have stayed true to the original, pacing included. Don't re-write other peoples' stories, especially if you don't get the point. Haruhi is about building up witty twists and trope jokes that require to think outside the box. Simply showing a slice of life scene from eight perspectives doesn't cut it.
I remember when this happened. My naive child brain sat there and watched all 8 episodes hoping that hey maybe the next will have something happen. Oh man the amount of free time I had and my love for anime at the time was the only reason I sat through them. Now it's a badge of.... honor? Something.
People comparing Endless Eight to 2020: keep in mind that 2020 actually had exciting things happen. December isn’t the same as March or April at all. The comparison doesn’t really hold.
Given the likely context of why they made it, it was probably a better choice. An arc that was supposed to be in the season was turned into a movie, but now they needed something to fill in 8 episodes of the season. Something cheap that wouldn’t take too much time to make.
@@Penguinmanereikel Doing Endless Eight this way might've saved some time, but it would by no means be cheap. The only thing they'd really be saving by doing Endless Eight how they did is scripting time. Since every episode of Endless Eight has different camera angles, clothes, etc they'd still need to spend the same amount of time and money on storyboarding and animation, plus whatever other aspects of production (like VO or sound) they might have chosen to redo, and that's where a lot of the time and most of the money in animation is going to go.
@@12thLevelSithLord I honestly would rather they cut the season short, and explain that it was going to be in the movie. The movie was so good, and Endless Eight so bad, that this would have been far better than what happened. :D
This arc was so infamous that, despite literally never hearing about Melanholy of Haruihi, I _still_ somehow maneged to stumble upon it. I don't even remember _how_ that happened. It must've been due to a passing mention or something.
I remember LIVING THIS with my little brother. We had only gotten into Anime a few years earlier, maybe 2006. Everyone LOVED Haruhi, season 2 was such an anticipated mystery. It was THE biggest most HYPED expected anime at the time. I remember all the marketing clues, the fake error'd website, etc. Then, it happened. Season 2 was out! We watched it the moment we could, once a week every week, when it aired and got fansubs. It turned into 8 grueling weeks of repetition. 8 weeks of fans going nuts, theories everywhere. And, in the end? Only disappointment. No big reveal, no clever ending, endless 8, simply... Just ended. Leaving us with only a few episodes left of season 2, which were okay, that we had already waited years on. What a WASTE. Then that was it, nothing more, we got one movie and one of the most beloved Animes just dropped off the face of the earth and it's following took a huge hit. It brought me great sadness we never got more animated Haruhi. We, my brother and I, and probably others, felt trolled and cheated. Here's to hoping for a good season 2 over a decade later.
Bruh you just don't know how to appreciate endless 8, to me it's the most memorable part of the entire series, and one I gladly rewatch. Only the movie is better, I think.
I saw a reddit post that said the endless eight was supposed to put us in yukis shoes because she went through it 15,000 times or what not so us getting pissed about it after going through it 8 times shows how tedious and annoying it is so it was supposed to connect with the movie and help us understand as to why yuki wanted to end the world.
Yes it was crucial. The eight episodes let you experienced what yuki experienced. The same event over and over again. People still talk about the endless eight now. The viewer were ment to experience ever miserable moments of the endless eight.
@@hitkid2456 The point of the comment was that Yuki's pain and torment during Endless Eight is far greater than Pain's pain could ever be. Also...... I get why RU-vid can show 0 views on a video that has likes/dislikes and comments, but I don't get how you were able to post a comment 2 weeks ago at the time of me writing this as a response to a comment that is labeled at "1 week ago" at time of writing.
I became an anime fan post Haruhi, so this interesting history, lol. I was alive during the age of Haruhism, I was just a wee lad who didn't know what anime was.
I have an interesting case since I became an anime fan post-Haruhi but it was close enough to it and there were some outside factors that meant that Haruhi was one of the first animes I ever watched. After getting into the light novels the series is honestly my favourite light novel/japanese manga/anime series.
@@U1TR4F0RCE That's interesting. I never tried school anime until I was a junior in high school, so I never gave Haruhi a serious thought until then. I started watching it recently, and I don't really see the hype, but I've resolved to give a it a chance.
@@MechaDragonX I only found out about anime and manga really as it's own thing when I was 12 so I started watching shows about high schoolers just as I started middle school.
@@U1TR4F0RCE I got into it about then, but I refused to watch school anime on a principle of finding the focus on girls perverted and not being ok with romance. Both views were immature in retrospect.
Just had to come back and give this video a good rewatch. What a great nosedive into one of the strangest and most fascinating experiences I've seen from an anime. Once again, wonderful work.
Probably none by the end. Im sure their sessions for the last two episodes went almost perfectly. After 6 other episodes of the same lines it had to be lol
Not gonna lie, I actually did this. Thought it was time well spent and a hilarious stroke of genius. Knowing the behind the scenes stuff now though, this arc remains... intriguing.
I'd argue binge-watching endless eight is actually far more bearable than for those who were watching it over weeks, continually anticipating th cycle to break just to be disappointed yet again.
@@LinkEX True that not knowing that the next episode would repeat the last, and having to wait weeks in between, would be worse, but to fair even when I was binge watching I didn't know they were the endless eight. I hadn't read the manga, and the episodes weren't labeled until the title screen in episode, I just thought there was a problem with them being uploaded multiple times. I started paying attention to the little differences and trying to figure out why this was happening and what it would lead towards, wondering how many episodes it would be. I think by the third time the theme song finished and it said "Endless Eight part 3" I realized it would continue until it actually hit eight. But I was still determined to see them all. For literally no reason. Might do it again.
The Endless 8 literally made me despair. What did the creators think? And why is the Light Novel not yet animated yet? It's not like the show has nothinig more to cover left!! When is one of the best anime ever made going to continue? Or is that question not allowed??
you know who i really feel bad for? those poor overworked animators who basically had to reanimate the same episode and put effort into this worthless troll
@@shorewall don’t expect anything but masochism and a complete lack of self respect from those with a Konata pfp their motives and powers are beyond us.
because it's actually brilliant and a very important part of the story. to hate endless eight is fucking pathetic. it's absolutely flawless and I'll defend it til the day i die.
Huge props for pointing out why Haruhi faded, it really was just the lack of new Light Novels. I read a really excellent essay a couple of years back that pulled a huge number of poll and sales figures from shortly after season 2 and the Aya hub-bub and it demonstrated pretty soundly that Haruhi was absolutely still hot as hell even after all that and people were definitely hungry for more. If anything it's all the more impressive it retains that luster even now. I never watched Haruhi, but as a fan of a different ailing franchise with a devoted following I absolutely wish them all the best and hope they get something nice.
Part 1: Oh this looks good! Part 2: Oh Wow! Part 3: Finally it's over... Part 4: Wait what? Part 5: Surely it has to end here....right!?..... Part 6: HELP ME!!!! Part 7: WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING!!! Part 8: I am, at long last... *r e l i e v e d*
I was on a road trip across the US and I downloaded these episodes before watching them, it was all I had at the time so I just sucked it up and watched them :l
I was young, I didn’t know enough, and watched 6 episodes of endless 8 to understand that the subtle differences weren’t worth the waisting away and the disappointment of watching the same thing again, and again, and again, and again, and again. This was last year, not knowing of the endless 8 before hand, ruined my life till this day. Only now from this video have I found slight acceptance, understanding for the first time that it was the director’s intention to make me go insane, but still, if it’s so bad to make that it makes you, the creator insane, then why do it in the first place? Some want to watch the world burn, but this man wants it to freeze over...
@@beyondtrash1627 Yes he did, the whole staff did. The guy who apologized wasn't part of the team anymore and had no involvement in endless eight, and the actual team came out and said he had no relation to them anymore when that happened. They knew very well what they were doing and they knew it was good
What I hated was that they wasted the animators' time by remaking scenes every time instead of reusing animation or well, change more things on the time loops.
@@CarrotConsumer And I didn't say they didn't pay them, that's kind of my point. It was a waste of money and torture for the workers (if the voice actors were tired of it just by repeating their lines imagine having to draw everything again, just torture). Also they probably got paid pennies, but that's another completely different issue.
@@fanaticaH KyoAni’s workers actually do get paid a decent amount and have very good work environments, which is rare in anime studios nowadays. It’s also the same in Ufotable.
