I’m listening to the Audiobook of “11/22/63” and they were talking about going to Derry back in the “time loop” and I was already like “okay sounds VERY familiar”. And then Jake Epping just CASUALLY meets Bev and Richie like it is not a big deal and they talk to each other. It just caught me so off guard but I was also freaking out when I realized it.
Overcoming fear is a much better way to explain it. I'd take it a step further and suggest that It isn't just fear, but also forgetting about your child hood, and growing into an adult with no imagination, who no longer has that quality. This is why The losers club could defeat IT the first time, and why they struggled so hard the 2nd time. Even all of that, is grossly underselling what IT's topics range from. In many ways, you could take the metaphors, and the deeper meaning so far, the bible wouldn't be able to hold up next to IT.
Sometimes featuring the same characters (although played by different actors). On top of McConnaughey's Dark Tower character appearing in the Stand....Sherriff George Bannerman appears in both The Dead Zone and Cujo, and his replacement Alan Pangborn appears in both The Dark Half and Needful Things.
Eric Escibedi....You're right about Universal and Toho. But Marvel and DC are relative newbies to the shared cinematic universe game. King movies were doing it long before them.
Dr. David Banner's Worst Day I'm talking about shared universe in general, DC and Marvel started their share universes since the 30's. Besides, most of King's book adaptions were made by different studios and never really connected to the other movies like the books did. This video is more talking about the books than the movies anyway.
One very minor connection from Pet Semetery that always stuck out to me, was Louis Creed commenting about a certain St. Bernard going crazy and attacking his family.
"The Dark Tower" is absolutely Epic. I love those books. Stephen King killed it. I never read anything like The Dark Tower series. "A Song of Ice and Fire" is excellent too. But man, the Tower series... It is just so creative, how he mixed his other novels into reality and one cohesive story is just spectacular.
Try The Adversary Cycle from Paul F Wilson, 6 books that start with The Keep which is also a movie. He has a lot other books related to the Adversary Cycle too.
I bet their going to make a Stephen King cinematic universe starting with the It 2017 remake Edit: Actually it starts with dark tower. I thought It came out first
I'm rereading IT to get set up for the movie. Here's a couple of things I've noticed so far: 1. Pennywise introduces himself to Georgie as Mr. Bob Gray. Mr. Gray from Dreamcatcher? Maybe they weren't aliens after all. 2. The Losers Club are all unconsciously endowed with the shining/touch as adults. 3. Stan Uris mentions the turtle, how it couldn't help them. Georgie stares at a can of turtle wax before he goes out in the rain. Interesting little details that go by you, especially with the order that the books came out.
I was hearing the audio book and it said he stares at the turtle, I was thinking... wthwhats with the staring at the turtle? I thought maybe he was just zoned out or something. but maybe "it!" was in Georgie's mind and saw the turtle and sort of freaked out, saving Georgie's life?
Pedro Hernandez Maybe. He keeps kind of trying to move away/pulling his arm back as they talk. In the Dark Tower books people are mesmerized by the turtle.
Yeah and my theory is changed, so someone was telling me he is a different type of creature so perhaps he is one of those creatures that cause illusions (like the one that tried to trap the kid in the forest when there was a tear) He may exist outside of the Universe and comes through via tears...
Can someone point me in the direction of a useful breakdown of how these films and stories are tied together WITHOUT nonsensical unrelated references to non-Stephen King films?
Thank you a billion. I have the rights to adapt one of his short stories into a short film and I'm researching for a subplot that makes all these connections to the Dark Tower. This was invaluable.
@@gregkujo7386 THIS! I want to see Rage get adapted to the big screen so bad... it is, in my opinion, one of Kings best works of psychological horror... because the idea of a high school boy who has been hated and mistreated his whole life by his own father, his teachers and a few peers, deciding to shoot and kill two teachers, taking his entire class hostage and basically Stockholm's them all into casual conversation about their lives... is not only terrifying, but terrifying because it's so realistic!
Blane is a pain, and that is the truth. They need to remake the dark tower to it's true full glory. And that is the truth. I am scared they never will. And that is the truth
and a big monster put an Amoco gas pump underneath its legs and pretended it was his _ _ _ _ _. that is the truth. (this is what I remember it saying in the 3rd book)
Yes they absolutely should. That movie was my biggest disappointment of the year, or now I think of it, probably the decade. But isn't Netflix making a series?
I never thought IT died...even the first time i read the book. My understanding was that IT (like Maturin) were inter-dimensional entities....IT only takes physical form to feed...so to me, the Spider at the end was just another physical form and not really IT. I always looked at it as neither of them could be killed...not by a physical being anyway. maybe each other? but who knows...King ripped a lot of booger sugar back when he was writing most of these novels lol
It's because Insomnia has not been made into a movie and this video is about movie adaptations of King works. Also, to the above, "Pennywise Lives" is from Dreamcatcher, and the spider form is technically as close to IT's true form as the human mind can comprehend. This likely ties into the notion that spider-like creatures are the ultimate evil in King's universe as both The Crimson King (the ultimate evil, The Man In Black's boss) and The Crimson King's son Mordred (who actually pretty easily defeats The Man In Black) are referred to as "Werespiders" or horrific cross overs between a human like form and a spider like form.
though some uneducated people would think (since they dont read) that the 1997 movie Insomnia is the same thing....which it isnt...but since that WAS a movie, idk who they'd rework the title for the book.
If you think these connections are crazy look up the Tommy Westphall universe. Thanks to the stephen king story haven all of the dark tower and Stephen king books (including the fictional stephen king) take place in an autistic kids mind. Agent Howard in Haven trained Mulder from X-files
Dude that dig at Wooderson from dazed and confused when talking about Randall Flaggs alias' was the funniest thing I've heard this year yet. And I love wooderson in that so hilarious.
Its the best feeling ever when you're reading a stephen king book and to fond connections as your reading you just have to stop for a second bc it blows your mind. Ive read stephen king books where the main character is a minor character from another book.
That was mind blowing!!! Thank you for connecting all of these, I grew up reading king books and always had this odd feeling and thought in the back of my head about this. You pieced together everything perfectly, again, thank you!!
The dark tower movie isn't as bad as critics make out -they just didn't get it -jake tells Roland when he drops him into the abyss under the mountain that 'there are more world's than these ' a theme echoed through out the books -also when Roland reaches the dark tower it is revealed that he is forever destined to repeat his quest with variations in each quest -therefore (and the movie makes told us this over and over) this episode is simply an alternative world that Roland and Jake intercept. For that reason I found the movie fine and loved the concept and performances -i am an avid fan of the books and have read each one several times - I think they hit it right and I think the critics had a lack of understanding regarding the movie within the books.
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Dragon maid if you need to read the books to get the movie, it's a bad movie
I think perhaps you should read them again Dragon Maid, because it’s apparent you missed the whole dynamic of ka’tet and what major roles Eddie, Susannah, and Oy play in Roland’s quest. Why explore the ending and all its implications before you even understand what the whole point of the “quest” is? The impact of reading these books at the pace SK wrote them and then discovering what was revealed to Roland once he finally reaches his “MagnusOpis” is completely lost to those who haven’t experienced that journey (read the books) with Roland and gang, therefore confusing everything that made the DT great and cheapening it. It’s the journey itself that offers the payoff and makes that last scene at the top of the DT so poignant (and to be honest about my reaction frustrating!). If that is truly what they were trying to do then it’s no wonder this movie is an epic failure and a huge confusing mess! Roland is the protagonist, not Jake! The Crimson King is the antagonist not The Man in Black. Walter is only a flunky to the CK, Jake is the metaphorical son to Roland while Eddie and Susannah are representations of Cuthbert and Alan. I think the critics understood what was wrong with this movie in more depth than you “a fan who has read the tale” does Glad somebody liked it 👍🏻 as vomit inducing as it was...however I wouldn’t exactly describe them as a fan or even a good interpreter of the story itself...the interpretation would prolly be as huge of a mess as this rubbish they’re calling a movie 🙄
Have y'all ever read, "The eyes of the dragon"? It's another of Stephen King's novels that I believe, if I'm not mistaken, he wrote for his niece. Anyway, the reason I bring it up is because the villain's name is Flag; an evil wizard that tries to take over the kingdom, etc. At the end of the book Mr. King writes something akin to, "This won't be the last time we see Flag." Just thought it was interesting. :)
My Gawd! I knew some bits and pieces... but to have it all laid out like that... Mind Blown. I have read every King Book, and I keep on telling myself I am going to read them again with the Dark Tower in Mind... You Insopire...
Great analysis! I saw The Dark Tower twice and loved it! Lucky one my friends was able to explain to me the references and easter eggs i didn't fully understand at the time. Once i was told that The Dark Tower was connected to the many of Stephan's works, i started to put dots together and it's blowing my mind. This is some pretty awesome stuff. I say that happy to learn that when i learned that the world of The Dark Tower is inspired by the world J R.R. Tolkien, i was blown away by that as well and made put me in a Tolkien mood, that i finished The Hobbit Extended Cuts and on to the Extended cuts of The Lord of the Rings trilogy. When i saw the film for second time, I did however start to get a Lord of the Rings vibe after seeing that The Dark Tower structure is similar to that of The Dark Tower of Bared Dur. Man, Tolkien left a mark on the world of fantasy.
This was a tough video to follow for anyone who hasn't kept up with the King stories. Really sloppy. But I really liked the interjection of personality from the narrator. So... thumbs down..?
I’m sure someone has already probably mentioned it, but one more connection to a SK book (but, not [yet] a movie) is The Crimson King to the town of Derry in “Insomnia”.
I normally dont like the narrators for these kinds of videos, but I can honestly say I watched this video twice because she made me laugh more than once. Bravo madam!
And when the man in black dies, I believe that like Roland reaching the the top of the tower, his story begins again, but in the mind of another reader. When we finish a book, it walks through the desert until it finds another reader. From another when, with a head full of new characters and fears.
mount hope was also mentioned in the extended version of the stand, when the judge is talking about going on walking trips with his father and passing by the cemetery
Damn; Stephen King's books are a lot more complex than I originally thought. Knowing myself, I would have read every single book as a stand alone that have no connection at all. Wow Stephen, way to make things complicated for yourself.
Damn thanks so much for this. I haven't read or watched close to all of the works, I never would have made 1/10th of those connections. So it's very interesting to just watch a 6 minute video that explains the complexity and interconnectedness of it all.
You forgot to mention the Sy-Fy series HAVEN (based on King's The Colorado Kid). Although the TV series differs from the book (which doesn't include anything supernatural), Haven incorporated elements from some of King's works, i.e. "thinnies", folks with telekinesis, etc.
Having grown tired of modern movies and books, I have become obsessed with Stephen Kings work lately,. I have to say, being in those sewers was like a breath of fresh air.
Yeah I really don't understand that if your half of a King fan that you have no idea that a good portion of his books are connected. And that he's been doing it for decades. Especially in his movies. It surprises me that people are SHOCKED by this.
The problem with this is the same one as the Tom Clancy movies; they're shot out of order so Clark for example shifts from 40 and scary something Willam Dafoe into late 30ish Liev Shcrieber. Some leave huge gaps in time that would disconnect the stories because a connecting character would be dead. Also with these, most of the references are omitted from the films. Dreamcatcher doesn't have the Pennywise reference, The Shining doesn't mention that the cook worked at the nightclub, etc.
