One thing I've noticed is that the lightdash is being slowed down with every game since Adventure. And in Frontiers, when you parry and slow time down, Sonic can still boost at his full speed, making it (I guess) 4 times faster than his normal power boost
@@ollybaldwin his reaction speed is MFTL+ and he is capable of teleportation, obviously he is FTL 😒 he is not, however, anywhere NEAR infinite speed let alone immeasurable 👍
"so this is proof that Sonic is not only faster than you think but also gets faster and stronger with each battle." Agreed, heck just look at his super form! At its first appearances Super Sonic was just a great speed boost and invulnerability, however at Frontiers Super Sonic was not only EXTREMELY faster but also EXTREMELY more powerful. Like, in Frontiers he lifted a sword the size of a skyscraper with little to no effort! In unleashed he destroyed an entire eggman fleet in less than half a minute IN SPACE! Oh and let's not forget his battle against Solaris who devours time and is existing in 5 different dimensions at once! Seriously people seem to forget how insanely powerful Super Sonic actually is.
@@Ashar2 theoretically, unfortunately Sonic can't use hyper anymore because and I quote "the super emeralds are from another dimension that is out of Sonic's reach" end quote. But common we all know the real reason they didn't brought it back. (**COFF COFF** Epilepsy **COFF COFF**)
We can't scoff at classic sonic either. In s3&k, sonic has a battle with knuckles that, commonly, is described as the easiest boss in the game. Mind you, knuckles was the same echidna that beat mecha sonic, the likes of which used the power of the MASTER EMERALD to fight. Also knuckles was literally able to punch sonic out of his super form!
The funny thing is what we see in the games isn’t close to him going all out. Because the full extent of his superspeed would be absolutely devastating to the environment and living beings.
You kind of see that in sonic unleash because he destroys everybody’s yards and flowers when he goes by. If you also watch his friends, you’ll sometimes see them covering their ears or bracing themselves when he takes off. And then even though sonic boom is in its own universe, he did outrun a black hole in season one.
Me and my friends literally had an argument weather sonic or flash is faster I was sonic they were flash and there reason for flash being faster was “the song says he’s only speed of sound” I was so mad so for the next 5 mins I started spitting facts of him being faster than light
I mean, Flash is faster, but what that guy said for "proof" was nowhere near good proof. Sonic has infinite-immeasurable speed. Flash has irrelevant speed.
One thing I recently saw, is that in the Sonic Mania special stages, there is a icon at the bottom that says either “Mach 1”, “Mach 2”, or “Mach 3”. And you start out at Mach one. Sonic’s running animation when he is going Mach one is him just regularly jogging… he’s going MACH ONE while JOGGING. No matter the fact that this is Classic Sonic, NOT modern, which means Sonic’s jogging speed should now be thousands of times faster.
Sonic was capable of moving in Null Space. Null Space was void of both time and space. Speed = Distance ÷ Time Distance is in space category, and there was no space, or time. Game Sonic has irrelevant speed. (Base Form)
In Game Sonic's base form, he ethier has immeasureable or Irrevelant Speed. And I dont think he actually needs rings to boost since he has boosted in the cutscenes without them. The rings are most likely just game mechanics.
Yeah the rings are just a game mechanic, Sonic doesn’t actually need them to boost just like he doesn’t need them to sustain his super form as many people like to believe. His super form has no actual time limit as we see in Sonic Advance 2 when after Sonic defeated Eggman he was gone for several days and when he came back he was still in his super form, which pretty much proves Super Sonic doesn’t have a time limit and can basically lasts however long he wants or needs to.
FINALY Honestly I'm so tired of people downscaleing the blue blur, so it's always cool to see someone actualy talk about Sonic's real speed level Also acording to Toriama game Sonic could rival the comic book Flash That's quite a speed if you ask me
Also Sonic runs out of cyber space, which is another dimension. Although Sonic says he escaped cyberspace because it was familiar ground. By that logic Eggman could’ve, but he isn’t as fast as Sonic. As you also addressed in the video Sonic grows stronger by existing. He literally does get stronger in frontiers and forces.
It should be noted that the songs saying he goes at the speed of sound (I'll use Escape From The City as main example) only say that he is running at the speed of sound, they *never* say that it's his top speed. But it still makes sense, from what I can gather, Sonic's usual (not maximum) speed is the speed of sound, he literally chooses to slow himself down, as he has demonstrated immesurable speed (speed so fast it cannot be measured) So Sonic chooses to run at the speed of sound, and if he needs to go faster, no problem, he can easily go way faster.
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 Considering his usual speed in game is ~Mach 1, and his top speed is at least immesuarable, I think he holds back a bit more that "some" speed, but instead, practically all of it.
@@SamuelRondreigz4720Considering Sonic has been confirmed many times to be way beyond light speed, to say he holds back only “some” of his speed would be a very huge understatement. Since Sonic is far beyond light speed he would have to very severely suppress his speed by an insanely wide margin.
Sonic was also able to run on pure energy in Sonic Frontiers when he ran on the Squid trail, and he's able to grind on the jet energy from the Robot that steals your emerald.
@@adityasrivastava2806 Well not all of them know that Sonic's faster Some of them are dumb enough to think Mario is faster than Sonic, Luckily it's not a lot of them
@@PercyPanleoMario does have mftl reaction speed due to him having to react being launched to different planets from diffent solar systems by the launch stars in both galaxy games. By Sonic is still infinitely faster than that.
There's also the speed feat in Secret Rings where he runs, without stop, back to his dimension through other dimensions. And secret rings is canon thanks to Generations.
Thank you for this video! It always frustrates me that people try to downplay my blue boy's speed. I even had an argument with someone once about Sonic's speed and they straight up refuse to admit he's faster than light nor do they even want him to be faster than sound either. Some people will even go as far as to say Mario is faster than Sonic! WHAT?!
Wait, so people think an Italian plumber is faster than the literal God of Speed, who can escape time stopping and spacetime disintegration, with the power to absorb pure Chaos energy in its fullest form, and transform the most powerful emeralds into even more powerful ones to turn hyper, where he's (canonically) so fast he can run fast enough to destroy multiverses at his slowest?
@sirsams5523 I played the wii one first (rented it from like redbox or something) and Christmas of 2010 I got sonic colors ds and I loved it... then like 7 years later I bought colors wii to see if nostalgia was clouding my memories of it and kinda. It's not nearly as bad as people now say but it does get stomped by the ds version
@@mewtube47 I think it’s helped out by being essentially sonic rush 3. I honestly feel like those handhelds are severely overlooked for how good they are
@sirsams5523 I finally see people giving the rush series some love... maybe a little too much love cause in the places I'm in I usually see too much talk about rush, adventure, and occasionally colors ds
One way I saw that "speed of sound" thing is that Sonic's perfered speed is the Speed of sound, but he is much more capable to go faster if he wants or needs to. And he probably doesnt because his whole chracter is enjoying the thrill of life. If you solve all your problems in a blink of an eye theres no fun in it
i’m glad that u only talked abt games and not comics cuz i agree because we never see him serious so we don’t know how fast he really is some suggested that he actually slows down he’s top speed so he’s friends can keep up
I love the time/speed break in Sonic and the secret rings. I remember playing it as a child and I discovered it by accident. It made so much sense to me and now I understand why.
It's odd that it's never really looked at, but its wild that Sonic's perception is so high that when Shadow first used Chaos Control, he could tell that it wasn't lightspeed, or a billion times lightspeed, but was quite literally, "instant". Implying he is consciously aware of what is happening around him at every minuscule fraction of a millisecond.
About the time posts thing, there’s even a statement from a Japanese manual that literally translates to Sonic being required to run at the speed of light in order for those posts to activate.
Sonic is way faster than the time barrier confirmed: Sonic CD’s time traveling mechanic has been confirmed to be a Sonic’s true speed. In game manuals, US and JP versions, it’s been said that you use Sonic’s speed to travel through time. Although Sonic didn’t use the ability in Sonic 06 and used Chaos Emeralds instead, we know the reason was because the Emeralds are more precise and accurate, not only that, he needed his friends to travel through time too, so that argument is easily debunkable. If Sonic wasn’t able to travel through time with his pure speed, then Sonic Generations, Sonic Rush, and Sonic Forces wouldn’t be canon, since in Sonic Generations, he’s seen bringing time to places without time, in simpler words, his pure speed can continue, and stop time. In the final battle of Generations, Sonic is seen facing Time Eater, who literally is faster than time itself, Sonic is not only seen to keep up with it, he also goes faster than it, In Sonic Forces and Sonic Rush, Sonic is seen going so fast that he travels through dimensions. In conclusions, Sonic’s time traveling abilities are not a ability of the sign-posts, but a ability of his own
Ian Flynn once said if Archie and Game Sonic were to fight it would end in a stalemate since both Sonics would be pretty much completely equal in everything.
Fun fact: In Sonic Battle, Shadow's description says that "with the help of his air shoes he can run faster than Sonic" and in the Japanese Sonic manual it says that Sonic has a hard time handling the speed of light, although in a straight race he could reach the speed of light without a problem, using it to fight or move in different directions could be difficult for Sonic.
Good watch... Here's something nobody is talking about. If Sonic is FTL, logically Knuckles would have to be to. They were rivals. Sonic just being 3-5x as fast would make him hard to hit. Any more than that, we're talking near impossible. Knuckles can't be like the speed of Sound, if Sonic is FTL.
Your whole point about time travel being a light speed feat simply isn’t true. First off, while still technically hypothetical, the theory of approaching the speed of light isn’t that you LITERALLY time travel, it’s that your perception of time and thus your aging would progress at a slower rate than the rest of the universe, allowing you to effectively travel forward in time but in reality you’re just aging slower. Backwards time travel, both in sci fi and scientific theory, is NOT possible through this. You would have to punch a hole through space time and travel through it, which is not inherently a light speed feat. If it was, every time Sonic used the light speed dash, he would time travel. Additionally it would be impossible to choose whether you go forward or back. For these reasons we can assume that while speed IS required, it’s more of a CW flash situation where Sonic is more just punching a hole. With that said, the light speed dash is explicitly stated to be light speed lol
I will something greater level of power if l need to beat sonic in his game faster than the speed of light? Good , but not faster than the speed of air l mean l am crazy with power here
This is the one of most random comments I’ve ever seen. This literally has nothing to do with the video. Anyways, Archie Sonic dusts Goku so get on somewhere, dude
Imagine game sonic having his ACTUAL cannon speed no not one of them mods that get you through a quarter of a stage with one tap i mean his real real speed
favorite speed anything in the series is when he runs along side eggman in unleashed and eggman goes 'eh? how youd get here so quickly?!?' 300iq lookin a lot more like room temperature iq right there.
I love sonic, but there are a couple things wrong here. Sonic in the classic games was stated by sega to be Mach 3-4. So you can’t just ignore that at all. Also the black hole in colors was never stated anywhere to be a black hole. I played the game looked into it and saw nothing that said black hole. Just cuz it looks like one doesn’t make it one. Still I believe sonic is def faster than light but those two feats you stated shows your kinda glazing a furry 😊
You mfs are mad weird "um actually 🤓☝️" "you’re glazing a furry 🤓" like stfu bruh. You mad corny The CD manual literally states go on a LIGHTSPEED adventure and you literally have to go faster than light to time travel. Tf is you on? The hyper go on energy caused that black hole and it’s even more funny when you consider that there’s void wisp that’s literally a black hole and the wisps have almost the same amount of power as the chaos emeralds 💀 You don’t need them to state them that it’s a black hole for you to literally see that it is. It’s like saying there isn’t a sun in frontiers because they don’t outright say there’s a sun. Read wtf you’re even saying If you agree that he’s FTL, then you shouldn’t have came here spewing bullshit, ignoring the CD manual and saying corny ass shit like "you’re glazing a furry" with a stupid ass emoji
Crazy thing is sonic isn't even light speed, he said it himself, light speed is nothing to him, just with the fact that sonic can move in a white space where there is no time in sonic generations while other characters can't shows that sonic is not only light speed but speed itself is literally irrelevant to him meaning no matter how fast you can get, you can never surpass his speed, it's limitless, and we're not even talking about super sonic, super sonic 2 or hyper sonic there, nor are we talking about sonic from the archie comics, this is also why I sometimes I kinda get annoyed when people downplay sonic and underestimate him to the point where he scales even lower than literally naruto himself when his own base form can literally destroy all of the naruto verse, crazier thing is the super form itself is only limited by the user's thoughts which means perfect chaos who is actaully using a super state has literally limitless power, yet sonic in his own base form had enough power to defeat him, meaning that sonic's own strength can actaully surpass his enemies imagination itself, by that im saying perfect chaos targeted sonic himself, which means he might have been imagining himself to be stronger than sonic yet sonic have still won against perfect chaos, wltho you don't have to take that last feat seriously cause it's just a theory and perfect chaos might be a blinded by rage and negative thoughts so you don't have to take that feat seriously and confirm it, but even without it, sonic's own regular speed in base form itself is just infinite which already puts sonic at a very high level
hold up let me see '' rolling around at the speed of light'' nah mid '' take off at the speed of light '' nope he is right you know also about that debate below me about Mario beating Sonic we know Sonic wins without bias but that's a decision for a nother time
People always forget about the little things. Sonic moves Cars over just by touching them in games such as Adventure 2 and more. Sonic couldn’t outrun the black hole because he just launched a mega attack with the whisps so obviously he’s tired. Had no boost, didn’t use spin dash. Also another example of Sonic getting stronger is how Super Sonic needed Light Gaia’s help to defeat Dark Gaia. In Sonic Frontiers tails says that the Sword Titan is Dark Gaia level. And Super Sonic defeats him with no help.
Sonic is always holding back. This dude can break the speed of sound anytime, can light speed dash, stop time or teleport with a chaos emerald, and so much more. And we talking about just base. He has many more feats to list.
defenitly the real speed of sound is 343meters per second (767) but that speed is according when the speed of sound is on the sea level *like you said so* .
There's one thing I have to say and the thing is, when Sonic rolls on the ground he slows down his speed since he's not using his legs, tell me if I'm wrong
Bro not gonna lie I didn’t know sonic grew even stronger every time he fights. I guess he is literally “what doesn’t kill you, make you stronger." Type dude
The speed of light is 300 000 km per second, which is almost 8 runs around the world in one second. So, if Sonic is approximately 11 times faster than light, he should be travelling around the world 88 times in 1 second, not just running through a mere part of a zone in 1 second. Theory debunked, but still pretty valid.
You cannot be serious bruh 💀 The whole video is showing proof he’s FTL and official media stating he’s FTL. He holds back his speed a lot and we see him in cartoons running around the world in mere seconds so I don’t get your point You don’t see people saying shinra from fire force ain’t FTL just because he doesn’t travel the world in seconds. We know he’s FTL due to the series literally stating it just like sonic
Little Planet itself is a planet that can travel through time, Sonic is not travelling using his raw speed because that is a proprety of the planetoid itself In most Classic Media it says that Classic Sonic can reach Mach 1 (which is basically the same speed of the Speed of Sound) and/or directly saying he can run at the Speed of Sound, so for me Classic Sonic Speed cap stops at the Speed of Sound Adventure Sonic on the other hand can reach Hypersonic Speed, as said in SA1 manual, he can reach Supersonic Speed, and in Battle it says Hypersonic Speed, and somd media says he can reach around Mach 3, which is basically Supersonic Speed And for Modern Sonic, most medias says that he can travel at the Speed of Light, some even suggest that he can pass the Speed of Light, so I do believe that yes, Modern Sonic can indeed reach the Speed of Light and surpass it
@@Spidey_. I don't remember seeing anything like that in Sonic CD's manual, and I even went to check, there is nothing talking about Sonic travelling at the Speed of Light, not even in the incorrect US manual, but on the other hand... it says that Little Planet is the home of the Time Stones, that can freely control time For me, it doesn't make any sense for Classic Sonic have Speed of Light
@@ThisisTheUltimatesonic can time travel even one of the devs for sonic cd says that “sonic runs and gains momentum” here’s the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9TFgFSF5Lb4.htmlsi=a8YpzxJWO28Dy5QA and go to 2:10
