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The left-wing New Popular Front has won Sunday's election in France, despite an earlier vote indicating a strong showing for the country's extreme right. The back-and-forth has implications on the French economy and even relations within the European Union. But, could a "cohabitation" between the left-wing alliance and President Macron simply bring a political and economic stalemate? Or are both blocs going to be motivated to get something done in the years ahead.
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@endianAphones
@endianAphones 16 дней назад
Why is everyone worried that "the rich" leave the country? It's not like they can put their properties on a plane and leave with them. The means of productions stay in the country, the workforce, what really produces something of value. Their fortunes aren't circulating in the economy, it's not like they're spending it, and it will be taxed if it leaves the country anyway.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
Unmovable property is a small amount of their wealth, they very much can simply move to another European country
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 16 дней назад
beyond the fact that they can sell all those , most of their money is not physical
@GD-jc3wx
@GD-jc3wx 15 дней назад
You don't seem to understand many things. The wealthy would get ready to move their assets, at least what is known as current account. Along with that, they take their productive apparatus somwhere else. The workforce on its own doesn't have either the experience or the capital to sustain on its own. Read the history of Venezuela in the last 20 years.
@kommisar.
@kommisar. 15 дней назад
You really have no clue about how assets work, do you?
@user-eh2hj8bx6i
@user-eh2hj8bx6i 15 дней назад
It's patriotic to pay their fair share. I remember a bunch of millionaires wrote US congress telling them to tax them more.
@anandpaulraj8094
@anandpaulraj8094 16 дней назад
Tax the rich!! Close the tax loopholes that companies use to minimise taxes!! Boom!!! 😂
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
French people and companies are already the most taxed in Europe
@johnnybrave7443
@johnnybrave7443 16 дней назад
Tax revenues actually go down once you ask for taxes beyond a certain point
@idventure6036
@idventure6036 16 дней назад
Popular front has really grown after the life of Brian.
@burprobrox9134
@burprobrox9134 16 дней назад
Ok big nose
@Ed201vzla
@Ed201vzla 16 дней назад
Marine Le Pen biography will say: "history only remembers those who came first place, not second or third..."
@Jonas-sw8mj
@Jonas-sw8mj 16 дней назад
Their plan is to make Germany and EU pay for their early retirement hahaha😅
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 16 дней назад
I think it is amusing to say that this outcome was surprising. With a few minutes of exposure to French electoral history, a talented high school student could have predicted this outcome. No one making the prediction of a sweep by the RN backed that up with a constituency-by-constituency analysis of the effect of third place candidates dropping out.
@ww32
@ww32 16 дней назад
They kept the “family friendly” fascist out. But now what.
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 16 дней назад
Try to find a workable middle road
@valkeryie5650
@valkeryie5650 16 дней назад
@@ww32 hotels are key, housing is a huge issue
@_Historia_Magistra_Vitae
@_Historia_Magistra_Vitae 16 дней назад
There is no Fascism in France nor anywhere in Europe.
@Ed201vzla
@Ed201vzla 16 дней назад
@@jaaksavat7916 an utopia in the current world... LOL
@Ed201vzla
@Ed201vzla 16 дней назад
@@_Historia_Magistra_Vitae really hope you're being ironic...
@duncan.o-vic
@duncan.o-vic 16 дней назад
No, the rich cannot leave because they have already left in order to evade taxes, but their real wealth is in actual assets that they can't just move. They need French market as it is the one of the largest, and they need France in order to have a foot on Europe.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
They can leave to another European country
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
Nobody’s going to stay in France if the tax rate is 90%
@duncan.o-vic
@duncan.o-vic 16 дней назад
@@Agtsmirnoff Sure, but the French love speaking their own language, and they can't bring their assets with them. They would need to sell them or abandon them. If they do business elsewhere they'll be replaced. The whole "rich will leave" myth is based on a capitalist myth of the rich being the only ones wifh the investment money, ideas and jobs. But these are just preexisting conditions they exploit. The real problem will be the EU and IMF forcing France to play by neoliberal rules, but France is also the biggest military force and the second biggest market in the EU, so they have some leverage.
@johnnybrave7443
@johnnybrave7443 16 дней назад
They can HQ in a different country after selling what they can, especially in a country that'll give citizenship if enough investment is done
@duncan.o-vic
@duncan.o-vic 16 дней назад
@@johnnybrave7443 Sell to whom? Another rich? Or to governement, under the price, or even better, lose it as it's taxable. If a tax system is designed properly, they can headquarter wherever they want. A hq in a country that sells citisenships is a great way to lose reputation.
@user-eh2hj8bx6i
@user-eh2hj8bx6i 15 дней назад
I really liked the long interview. Please continue to not interrupt reporters or cut them off. one of the best reasons to watch dw
@merlin1649
@merlin1649 16 дней назад
Remember, France got rid of a King and elected an Emperor. Don't be France, kids.
@stevenhenry5267
@stevenhenry5267 15 дней назад
So don't elect the Far Right then.
@shyegye
@shyegye 16 дней назад
Does the difference between a majority and a plurality not exist in Europe?
@TCN8202
@TCN8202 14 дней назад
Math is universal. In french we speak of "majorité absolue" to describe a share of strictly more than 50% of the votes. Whereas "majorité relative" (plurality) describes a share of less than or equal to 50% of the vote that is the biggest unitary collection of the expressed votes. "Pluralité" means diversity or multitude in French, so "plurality" is a bit of a false friend.
@josephquesnel1737
@josephquesnel1737 13 дней назад
I love it.. The anchor asks a left leaning person.. "Is it fair to characterize the far left this way?"" hahahaha
@art-of-techno
@art-of-techno 16 дней назад
Nobody talks about the deficit when it comes to spending on the military...
@Vektab
@Vektab 16 дней назад
Because the military (i.e the defense of the nation) is actually the explicit and implicit duty of any government. It goes hand in hand. But the same cannot be said for social services. You want food? Buy it. You want a doctor? Pay him. You want nice housing? Rent or buy it. There is no objective reason why the government should make sure the people don’t go hungry. I know you probably desperately want it to be the other way.
@Frank-dv3st
@Frank-dv3st 16 дней назад
this alliance for or against the French people ?
@user-lb8du4dl3o
@user-lb8du4dl3o 15 дней назад
Against, nothing french in this alliance!
@stevenhenry5267
@stevenhenry5267 15 дней назад
Ridiculous
@marrisueno1
@marrisueno1 16 дней назад
Good luck with that
@MichaelMcCausland-pg6qs
@MichaelMcCausland-pg6qs 14 дней назад
That sounds like a brilliant idea
@danlacina9372
@danlacina9372 16 дней назад
Good for France, tax increases and more immigration. What could go wrong?
@karoltomis5704
@karoltomis5704 16 дней назад
Is it an real life photo or jist Photoshop/AI?
@MichaelMcCausland-pg6qs
@MichaelMcCausland-pg6qs 14 дней назад
The bonds are being dumped
@donvongprachanh1484
@donvongprachanh1484 16 дней назад
Good job France 🇫🇷 👍
@41divad
@41divad 16 дней назад
Leon Blum rises again
@AmirDarkOne
@AmirDarkOne 16 дней назад
2:40 communist aren't far left ?😂
@TriEarth96
@TriEarth96 16 дней назад
They just became a 2 party system
@burprobrox9134
@burprobrox9134 16 дней назад
Then we all laugh at the Iranian’s sham “choices”
@arthurd6495
@arthurd6495 16 дней назад
I don't get how one party of the left coalition is speaking as if they're going to be governing. what?
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
Yes, considering the only one 25% of the vote
@Voxabonable
@Voxabonable 16 дней назад
When it turns right, you're concerned, when it goes left, you're concerned. How about just going south and be done with?
@meerkats9317
@meerkats9317 16 дней назад
You do realise that extremism of either side is dangerous right?
@Voxabonable
@Voxabonable 16 дней назад
@@meerkats9317 democracy and freedom, just like they preach the world everyday.
@abouranous
@abouranous 16 дней назад
I don't see them worried about the left, it's only the right that scares them, even centrists are considered far right nowdays
@charles___
@charles___ 16 дней назад
@@meerkats9317 But far left doesn't exists tho ?
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 16 дней назад
Authoritarism on the left practically disappeared. Not even the so called "communists" advocating for overturning democracy in favor of dictatorial communism. None of them want to weaken or end democracy to ensure they stay in power. The right-wing does unfortunatly so I worry more about them.
@Me_di
@Me_di 16 дней назад
Rip france
@engineeranonymous
@engineeranonymous 16 дней назад
At least we know that Germany will not be the target of business circles any more. So this is a good news right ?
@pranavgandhar4604
@pranavgandhar4604 16 дней назад
Dw will blame modi 😂😂
@videomofo
@videomofo 15 дней назад
Surprise! We cheated you out of your choice
@randomguy7175
@randomguy7175 16 дней назад
France has become a joke 😅
@samlatooni
@samlatooni 16 дней назад
"france needs more immigrants"😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 looks like the "great nation" is already coming to its senses😅😅😅😅...will this be a lesson to other "great nations"?..... Nope, more arrogance ahead 🍿🍿🍿
@duncan.o-vic
@duncan.o-vic 16 дней назад
Great nation = great brain washing, only when there is no more nations and power hierarchies there will be no wars and poverty.
@FaithfulFumoFan23
@FaithfulFumoFan23 16 дней назад
They're going to be so poor in a few years.
@angelawhitehead6187
@angelawhitehead6187 16 дней назад
Where are your male presenters? Being president maybe
@abhisheklimbu9609
@abhisheklimbu9609 16 дней назад
And the downfall begins..
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 16 дней назад
In 10 years time, you will native French people embracing Islam, not because it's their fault, but younger people are simply going to be bred into that system.
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb 16 дней назад
Say Wallahi
@Buckshot99
@Buckshot99 16 дней назад
So the party with the most votes gets 3rd place? The party with 11% fewer votes gets the most seats? What could go wrong?
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 16 дней назад
It's not a direct democracy.
@Buckshot99
@Buckshot99 16 дней назад
Apparently not. What kind of kooks make up this leftist nonsense? Why on earth would the Center side with them?
@pomperidus
@pomperidus 16 дней назад
So you agree with the newly elected left that the voting system should be changed to be made proportional? And when the RN with a third of the seats will still have no majority you’ll be happy?
@Buckshot99
@Buckshot99 16 дней назад
@@pomperidus you think the leftist have any integrity? Of course they won’t.
@Vektab
@Vektab 16 дней назад
@@pomperidusYou need to learn the difference between a majority and plurality. No one won a “majority” in the French election. Not even close. A majority = 50.01+%. Anything below that is called a plurality. Meaning, the highest number below 50%. The left won a plurality, but not a majority. The RN nearly doubled its seats from last time, and won the most votes. Its victory is only delayed. And the more immigrants arrive in France, and the less French France looks, the faster its victory will arrive.
@aleksandrzaviriukha5809
@aleksandrzaviriukha5809 16 дней назад
Free everything to everyone! We will just take the rich money away! And they will totally agree and not run away leaving us in the economic ruin! 😂
@oliverstianhugaas7493
@oliverstianhugaas7493 16 дней назад
*"Tax The Rich!"* Ok watch them move across the border.
@Jocky8807
@Jocky8807 16 дней назад
True. Tax the rich. Would make the rich move out. Open border, would make the poor immigrant come. It would be double whammy. This is path for the far right win in the next election.
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA 16 дней назад
if they move out they're gonna magically lose their revenues and investments?? do you realize how economics and the real world of capitalism works? apply some logic to your reasoning, just like criminals who don't want to pay taxes, they are sent to jail and somebody more responsible takes the lead of the company to assure it keeps going strong, the companies are simply just changing hands, if they don't wanna pay the taxes. there is a lot of responsible and capable people that can fullfill those roles for the state to benefit from, instead of the wealthy, they rich will allwayas get ate up either way, they will just lose a lot more than they win by getting out of france, if they wanna leave france, because france is a huge economy in itself. also, if the rich fall off, there will be way more competition from a 1000 other companies with better products than the elitist products...its just human nature, you gotta try to understand it better. the redistribution of the money to the middle and lower classes is what makes the economy grow exponentially stronger, thats why the leftists are apologists of money redistribution for those classes, because it creates more and better competition than giving it to the rich to just leech off.
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb 16 дней назад
they can piss off then.
@Kris217imsc
@Kris217imsc 16 дней назад
I guess the rich were not the patriots they thought they were
@azenkwed
@azenkwed 16 дней назад
So what?
@user-eh2hj8bx6i
@user-eh2hj8bx6i 15 дней назад
It would be amazing if everyone across the world could retire at 60 years old. I think a lot of people would continue to work after that. TAX THE RICH.
@younghustlers6922
@younghustlers6922 16 дней назад
France surprised the right just like how we do here in America 😂😂😂💯 They THOUGHT they would win!!
@user-yz9ye6xp7q
@user-yz9ye6xp7q 16 дней назад
Communist Isolationist is a whole new thing. But French are always trying new things.
@pomperidus
@pomperidus 16 дней назад
What would be the relative weight in number of seats of the communists in a possible left+center coalition? If you can’t give a close estimate without googling why did you bother us with your uninformed and extremely misguiding opinion?
@user-yz9ye6xp7q
@user-yz9ye6xp7q 15 дней назад
@@pomperidus I looked at what their party platform identified with. Youth will vote to put chains around their own legs, yelling how tolerant they are though expensive educations. The conservative farmers feed the ill-informed highly educated Communist.
@captaincarl1
@captaincarl1 16 дней назад
Man-made Disaster
@xXAscendingPhoenixXx
@xXAscendingPhoenixXx 16 дней назад
Nah
@mryou2434
@mryou2434 16 дней назад
France now called Frankenstan
@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz
@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz 16 дней назад
Viv'La Foreigners
@Likeaworm
@Likeaworm 16 дней назад
So they’re pursuing the very polices that led to the rise of Le Pen 😂. Very smart
@MrHamsterism
@MrHamsterism 16 дней назад
People don't realize that the rich leaving is a very good thing. They don't contribute.
@Agtsmirnoff
@Agtsmirnoff 16 дней назад
Oh boy imagine actually believing this😂
@Joe-cb6ex
@Joe-cb6ex 16 дней назад
@@Agtsmirnoff How's that boot taste?
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 16 дней назад
imagine being this naive ....
@hazaubel6532
@hazaubel6532 16 дней назад
@@Joe-cb6ex how does that economic illiteracy feels like ? maybe drop the mob mentality and start thinking rationally
@johnnybrave7443
@johnnybrave7443 16 дней назад
Ha yes , becoming a Venezuela is a very good thing
@001sander2
@001sander2 16 дней назад
If the rich leave, that's a bonus because they'll sell their assets which increases productivity.
@user333-us4qz
@user333-us4qz 16 дней назад
I hate taxes 👊. Max 10 procent !
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 16 дней назад
Is your income over 120,000€ per year? If not I wouldn't worry you would not fall in the "tax the rich" category.
@user333-us4qz
@user333-us4qz 16 дней назад
@@AaronOkeanos what a you talking about. I pay 38 procent tax and 22 procent debt tax 60 procent total. And i am earning 60 K every year 👊 f*** taxes ! Its should not be like that ! Max 10 procent income tax ! Under 1 mil.
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 16 дней назад
@@user333-us4qz Someone has to pay the taxes there are costs involved living in a society. Especially one with public healthcare like France. Infrastructure, schools, etc. And I would prefer those who have less problems paying should be paying more which is the very concept of "tax the rich". Who knows maybe they can reduce your tax when they tax the rich more.
@jaaksavat7916
@jaaksavat7916 16 дней назад
How are you going to pay for the pensions, healthcare infrastructure, education but taxing those that pay little or no taxes should pay as much as anyone else.
@ShaneyElderberry
@ShaneyElderberry 16 дней назад
@@jaaksavat7916 it’s funny, because the people you are complaining about are currently evading taxes in the United States. As a middle class person, I’ve paid more taxes than plenty of millionaires and billionaires for the last 10 years. They’ve had their day. Tax them now.
@tobias41641
@tobias41641 16 дней назад
If taxing the rich would be so easy, it would have been done before.
@valkeryie5650
@valkeryie5650 16 дней назад
It really is easy, they have paid off elected officials to not do it.
@Jeevanm71
@Jeevanm71 16 дней назад
The hardest part is getting in power. Most countries shift between conservative and liberal governments and both don’t try to tax the rich. The left hasn’t been in power and definitely not absolute power in the west before
@trartalacrem
@trartalacrem 16 дней назад
By who? Macron? It never had been the plan with him, he comes from banking world and was supported by most of important businessmen.
@TiberiusMagnus
@TiberiusMagnus 16 дней назад
Almost impossible unfortunately. The rich will always find loopholes to evade taxes
@valkeryie5650
@valkeryie5650 16 дней назад
@@tobias41641 not when the poor have finally had enough. It's coming.
@SLoh-td2rl
@SLoh-td2rl 16 дней назад
Putin is laughing and very happy.
@user-lf9cg8gi8z
@user-lf9cg8gi8z 16 дней назад
Maybe, maybe not. Macron is the only western leader that wants a direct conflict with the Russians in Ukraine. He wants French troops in Ukraine despite pushback from the US and the UK. Putin's feelings probably wouldn't be hurt by the prospect of Macron bowing out from French leadership. That won't be happening anytime soon, now.
@Kbcqw
@Kbcqw 16 дней назад
Lol might as well call france “north north africa” soon 😂😂 Rip France, it lasted a long time.
@thesixth2330
@thesixth2330 16 дней назад
So one journalist calls the National Rally 'Extreme Far-Right', the other 'Far-right'... Yet the Far-Left morphs, into a Left-wing coalition. The BIAS is incredible...
@Just_another_Euro_dude
@Just_another_Euro_dude 16 дней назад
There's literal COMMUNISTS in that coalition but they are not far left, lol. Melanchon himself is a communist. 😂 But not far left, no. 😂😂😂🎉😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 16 дней назад
​@@Just_another_Euro_dudeBut some like the Socialists are not far left. Holland for instance was president already.
@pomperidus
@pomperidus 16 дней назад
Precisely because the far left is only one of the 4 parties of the coalition that includes moderates and soc-dems. There is no conspiracy the far left branch is regularly called far left by the media that precisely documented the rise of the extremes (plural) in France. It was a major topic to know if such an alliance could happen despite the ideological differences between the far left and the centre left and many feared the far-left side would afraid voters. Some Macron and right supporters did not want to vote for LFI even against RN for instance.
@georgesmith5201
@georgesmith5201 16 дней назад
Another splendid victory for Islam
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 16 дней назад
Not really relevant here
@georgesmith5201
@georgesmith5201 16 дней назад
@@soundscape26 Extremely relevant, actually. 😂
@devildevil2271
@devildevil2271 16 дней назад
As long as France or even EU, is under the US Israel leadership and management, it's in good hands. Nothing to worry, just obey
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb
@Magneticvortex-kk4gb 16 дней назад
Does Putin still have an internet connection?
@boxcutter0
@boxcutter0 16 дней назад
The people who undermine western cohesion, with grossly open borders & citizenship free for all… will face wrath, consequences are inevitable, but accrue negatively.
@Lisa-my5sy
@Lisa-my5sy 14 дней назад
Yeah sure right 👌believe it when I see it
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