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How gas rationing would work 

Phil Edwards
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A best guess, based on the past.
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Nice Smithsonian article about the coupons:
postalmuseum.si.edu/collectio...
Wouldn't have made the video without cribbing from this overview:
www.jstor.org/stable/27551631...
Article about odd even rationing (I couldn't follow the math but the conclusion was clear):
www.academia.edu/19388931/The...
Paper that explains why gas rationing is really the only option in a big shortage:
www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi...

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@fortissimolaud
@fortissimolaud Год назад
btw, the Russian gas shortage in Europe isn't the same gas that Americans are thinking about. American "gas" is a liquid
@melelconquistador
@melelconquistador Год назад
Also gas gas when you talk about our stoves.
@nickkk420
@nickkk420 Год назад
Think "natural gas"
@danielmay7266
@danielmay7266 Год назад
We’re aware dw
@mookiecookie44
@mookiecookie44 Год назад
We know what natural gas is. We use it here as well.
@onnayoung7699
@onnayoung7699 Год назад
but we all know the true American gas problem in taco bell.
@JohnHarrerHorses
@JohnHarrerHorses Год назад
Your videos are always so fun to watch. I worked at a gas station in Santa Barbara in 1973. I understood the early chaos was brought on by people who normally only kept 1/4 to 1/2 a tank in the car switching to keeping their tank constantly full. It was much like the COVID Toilet Paper crisis. Great to see your channel growing.
@dashiellgillingham4579
@dashiellgillingham4579 Год назад
The small town, or the county that stole it's name and recently became large enough to have it's own representatives?
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Год назад
Well, that's what communist rationing does. If they had just allowed the price to rise, the least economic uses of gas would have been dropped and the demand would fall to meet supply.
@iainronald4217
@iainronald4217 Год назад
Governments: Gents and gals, we've gotta reduce gas usage in America. What's the solution? Random Gov't worker: How about we undo the highway-focused development of people like Robert Moses and Ebeneezer Howard in favour of a new urbanist stance? Something like emphasizing mixed land use in businesses and retail parks, building upwards not outwards with a heavy focus on condos and flats, and giving whatever remaining gas there is to transit systems. We also need to expand transit systems because three mediocre transit systems in a city are better than one great one. *everyone stares blankly, blinking* Random Gov't worker 2: How about off/on fueling days? Governments: This man is a genius!
@melelconquistador
@melelconquistador Год назад
Low hanging fruit for the short run.
@memyselfishness
@memyselfishness Год назад
Not everyone wants to live in urban cities.
@iainronald4217
@iainronald4217 Год назад
@@memyselfishness New Urbanism isn't about cities vs towns; It's about using the land that we have most effectively. You can still follow New Urbanist principles and live in a town with 900 people. Did you know that a single unit family home, every year, uses the same amount of energy as twenty mixed-use businesses? That energy should be stored and used for better purposes. What about all of the animals whose habitats are destroyed every time we build suburbs? Or, the global food shortage that's occurring, yet we think it prescient to turn agricultural land into residential. There are also some things that New Urbanism is designed to prevent. The reason we argue for food stores, transit stops, and government agencies within 450m of every front door is to allow people to live their lives more easily. There are a lot of people who have to travel 20+km to buy food because the planners of their neighbourhood never thought to put in a 7/11 or ExtraFoods. Or, seniors who have to rely on family or HandiBus to get their bills paid or talk to service Canada.
@deus_ex_machina_
@deus_ex_machina_ Год назад
@@memyselfishness True, some people (like myself) prefer rural living. The problem is that suburbs are a cancer that metastasizes into both urban and rural areas. No suburbs means that urban dwellers can easily access nature, and rural residents can easily access the city for services and amenities. Why is this mutual exchange necessary? Because people (sadly) don't care about preserving something they don't personally benefit from.
@BlairCarlyle
@BlairCarlyle Год назад
“Billions of coupons in the desert waiting to be destroyed” is my favorite Doors lyric
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
*organ playing intensifies*
@shakthianjanananayakkara6528
Well, here in Sri Lanka gas (I mean petrol and diesel) rationing started like a month ago, probably for the first time in history. Instead of the age old ration book or coupon systems, we have a government run mobile app, that scans a QR code. Every car is currently allowed to buy 20 liters per week while larger and smaller vehicle get some accordingly. They are making updates to the system to be able to register commercial vehicles that are used for special purposes and give them more fuel and would probably roll it out next month. This system would probably go on for another year or so till we restructure our debt and get the IMF bailout.
@yegfreethinker
@yegfreethinker 10 месяцев назад
Don't let the IMF bully your gov't into privatizing essential government services if you can help it. So suck of the IMF trying to make countries financialize everything. "...So your problem is money" "yes and solutions more money????" 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@alexmalt
@alexmalt Год назад
I feel like there’s more LSD in that laugh than pain.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt Год назад
WW2 gas rationing, at least in America, was more about tires than gasoline itself. It was still almost all natural rubber at the start of the war (which itself gave a huge boost to synthetics) and almost all the world's sources of natural rubber were controlled by Japan as of the end of 1941.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Год назад
Rationing of everything, especially oil, was a pure psychological operation against the American people through artificial scarcity. The United States was rich in every resource beyond a poet's dream, ESPECIALLY oil.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls Год назад
Yup, rubber may be native to Central and South America. But in 1941-42, most of the world's rubber came from countries in Southeast Asia and Australasia -- exactly where Japan was invading at the time.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS Год назад
I think a gas card system could work, where each card had an ID number tied to a government ration account and the pump checks how many ration units you have left in your account and sets that as your max draw…but honestly the cashlike coupon system seems more inclusive of the poor, easier to trade or sell on the white market when you don’t need it, and is only slightly less convenient. Might be harder to get pumps to accept them automatically, but no harder than cash to process manually. It’s probably still the more elegant solution, even if the card might be more convenient for those who have stopped carrying cash.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Yeah that’s also why I think the card is unlikely - there would be a lot of edge cases to consider.
@jordanbloomfield
@jordanbloomfield Год назад
We had a major flood here in BC Nov 2021, and non-essentials were limited to 30L per car per fill up to prevent and slow the panic buying and it mostly worked! Everyone just figured that everyone else was limited to about half of what they normally got and drove conservatively or just filled up more frequently but more spread out
@WaitintheWings
@WaitintheWings Год назад
Another great video on a topic I never knew I needed to know about but am happy I do now!
@dustinbelle3251
@dustinbelle3251 Год назад
Great video! I like hearing about random semi-historical factoids that are novel to the internet! Thanks 😊
@dustinbelle3251
@dustinbelle3251 Год назад
@Samurai Nuts thanks for the suggestion! I watch him from time to time but Phil is a little better I think due to better cinematography and being a bit too short. Some of JJs can be a but long winded for topic at hand.
@piffleknob
@piffleknob Год назад
I am, never not, pretty-entertained by a Phil Edwards' video. If everything produced such expected just-above-unexpected results as Phil's videos, I would be pretty content with things.
@grahamrankin4725
@grahamrankin4725 Год назад
Having worked for a major oil company during that gas crisis in the 70s, and currently driving a hybrid, gas rationing would probably drive more people to electric vehilces.
@GotDamBoi
@GotDamBoi Год назад
the people that can afford electric vehicles are not the people that will be affected by high gas prices/rationing. this only fucks over people that can't afford electric vehicles
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
This is what I came to the comments for. People hate taxes and subsidies, so could rationing help solve climate change? As an EV driver, would I rather destroy my rations for the planet, or sell them to a gas driver for greed... Moral dilemma. What can we do?
@AuthenticTraveling
@AuthenticTraveling Год назад
You get criminally low views for the quality of your work, Phil. Hoping to see you grow this channel more and more.
@MrShaclakclak
@MrShaclakclak Год назад
Phil, I just wanna say after watching all my "doom-and-gloom" videos. You come on. It's like opening the window in a stuffy house. I smile then laugh at your bad jokes, it's just what I need. And at the same time I learn somthing. Phil, thank you.
@bilbodabbins8273
@bilbodabbins8273 Год назад
That guy’s laugh is genuinely horrifying. I hope he is doing better now.
@Stone45781
@Stone45781 Год назад
Looks like Sri Lanka now
@laurabowles
@laurabowles Год назад
I'd love to have a conversation with Laughing Guy and see what he makes of the world today.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
please give me a ring when you and he meet up and chat
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
John Oliver's crew is pretty good about hunting things like this. Maybe see if they aren't on strike and can use it for his show?
@IMPERIALYT
@IMPERIALYT Год назад
Great video, a topic that's relevant to everyone in this age unfortunately and something that people are not as versed in. As someone who lives right next to Germany, a country where saunas are now temporarily banned from operating due to gas scarcity, this video hits close to home.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
enjoyed your Franco video just yesterday!
@IMPERIALYT
@IMPERIALYT Год назад
@@PhilEdwardsInc that's so good to hear! Glad you enjoyed it, it means a lot coming from you
@malbliss4491
@malbliss4491 Год назад
After getting bank cards recently for Healthcare expenses, one to get paid for a DHHS medical research study, and another card just to get a small student tuition refund, I think it would be trivial for the government to mail out a credit card for every household that could be loaded with cash and only be used to purchase a certain number of gallons of gasoline per day. The payflex card even knows if what you're buying is Healthcare related automatically!
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
This makes me slightly less skeptical of a higher tech fix….
@swschilke
@swschilke Год назад
in Germany (West) they did days where only essential car drivers where allowed to drive (on Sunday's) the police controlled, like the Autobahn etc., that make a lot of bicycles use the Autobahn. btw: wasn't there a case where someone stole pages form the NYC library rare book collection to sell them? something like that I would think would be a worthwhile video, wouldn't? or their hotline for questions etc. other unique archives or Library, museums and collections.
@Calv_
@Calv_ Год назад
On the question at the end, I think the system is simple enough for rationing, the only issue is we'd have to treat it like money with countermeasures for people just photoshopping their own and printing their own rationing stamps.
@jordanmcgrory2171
@jordanmcgrory2171 Год назад
Which wouldn't really be that big of a challenge. It isn't only money which attracts an anti-counterfeiting operation and embeds anti-counterfeit measures. Things like postage stamps do too. It's something that government has good experience of.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS Год назад
They’d likely have to deploy the same anti-counterfeit measures used on modern currency of similar value, but that is not hard to imagine them doing for modern ration stamps.
@WanukeX
@WanukeX Год назад
Europeans: Americans and Canadians call Petrol simply “Gas”, that’s what he’s talking about. Americans and Canadians: when Europeans talk about “gas”, they mean natural gas.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
lesson learned on this one!
@xXTomokoKurokiXx
@xXTomokoKurokiXx Год назад
Thanks for always making such high-quality videos!
@lukel653
@lukel653 Год назад
i have a tough time watching something for longer than 3 minutes. but your videos are actually really easy to watch
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
thanks! appreciate all the minutes!
@phillipgray9327
@phillipgray9327 Год назад
Loving the videos Phil! Leave Vox and go full time like Cleo. Much love -Another Phil
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Thanks Phil - Phil
@phillipgray9327
@phillipgray9327 6 месяцев назад
​@@PhilEdwardsIncyaaaaaaaaassssssssssssss!! So happy to see you finally go Indy Phil!!!
@creepyoldlady2995
@creepyoldlady2995 Год назад
Another fascinating video. So glad I found your channel!
@Thebreakdownshow1
@Thebreakdownshow1 Год назад
Lol I was just on your channel looking for the biweekly video, yesterday and here we are.
@user-bk2go6ru1g
@user-bk2go6ru1g Год назад
Interesting topic, but let's not confuse "American gas" and "European gas". Gas in the US is "car fuel", by "gas" in Europe we mean natural gas, used for cooking/heating/electricity production. When we talk about possible gas rationing in Europe next winter, we are talking about natural gas.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
good point!
@cyan_oxy6734
@cyan_oxy6734 Год назад
There's no "European gas". There's gas and petrol.
@IONATVS
@IONATVS Год назад
@@cyan_oxy6734 And Petrol used to be called “Gasoline” (a trademark dodging name for off-brand Cazeline, the original brand of what Europeans now call “Petrol”) on both sides of the pond before the term “Petrol” was coined. America just never got the memo when the newer term caught on in Europe. It is annoying that Gasoline’s most natural abbreviation is just “gas” but since Methane gas is normally called “natural gas” in the US (again a legacy term from when it needed to be distinguished from other gasses used for gas lamps) it only causes confusion when discussing foreign affairs. Though even here it will just be called “gas” when context makes it clear, such as discussing cooking or home heating. And Russia was also the world’s 2nd largest exporter of Petroleum Crude Oil, and exported a LOT of it to Europe, so the confusion really is pretty understandable.
@Croz89
@Croz89 Год назад
The problem is that you often end up with a two-tier system, those with the financial means to get around the rationing, legally or illegally, and those without. You see it with odd-even restrictions in congested cities, those that can afford it buy two cars with different parity plates or buy a swish apartment closer in, those that can't are then disadvantaged, they spend more time commuting, they have to curtail their leisure activities, move into denser housing with less space, or they may even have to give up their job or lose out on recruitment to someone who is able to be more reliable. In the case here, EV's present one potential cause of a two-tier system, and will probably be completely legal. A wealthy person can sell their ICE car and buy a high performance EV, whereas a poor person is stuck with their ICE that they can't use as much, or can only afford a budget EV with limited range. This could have the same kind of effects on commuting time, employment, housing quality and access to leisure.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Yeah, especially with a likely sanctioned white market, that’d confuse things more.
@BenOlivas
@BenOlivas Год назад
​@@PhilEdwardsInc Thanks for this video! The section on gas rationing during WWII reminds me of a poster my high school history teacher had encouraging people to carpool, with big bold text proclaiming, "When you ride ALONE, you ride with Hitler!" For the "Standby Gasoline Rationing Plan," it's interesting that the gas rationing vouchers were called "coupons," since I'd distinguish between rationing - strict quantity limits, if still tradeable - and coupons (essentially monetary discounts). Julia Galef discuss this topic on her "Rationally Speaking" podcast (ep. 257 "Price Gouging") with two economists, and determines that while rationing & anti-price gouging laws policies often fail in practice, direct payments in times of crisis may be effective. (At certain points they contrast rationing & rent control with food stamps & basic income, and conclude that the latter is preferable.) Of course, this would likely mean higher taxes compared to the rationing policies, but today, given how increased gas prices affect people unequally, I feel direct payments would be more popular.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
@@BenOlivas Thanks for that carefully thought out comment. Haven't heard the Rationally Speaking podcast. I get the logic behind payments/letting the market decide, but I admit that going through this literature made me wonder if that might have an increasingly inflationary effect and be a little regressive (because it'd hit food delivery harder than under a ration system). Of course, I'm sure the economists have thought this through (though we currently are living through huge inflation that they somehow did not anticipate after sending out big checks to people)...
@joshgreen2366
@joshgreen2366 Год назад
I've always wondered how people today would react to the kinds of rationing that occurred in the 1940s. And then COVID came around, and that sorta showed me that it wouldn't be pretty (which I honestly expected). Now, I'm convinced that if rationing were to ever come back, people would complain and call it communism.
@princessjillian
@princessjillian Год назад
Please keep the content coming!
@TheWhiskeyShow
@TheWhiskeyShow Год назад
Excellent music choices and sound design. Maybe the most polished vid I've seen from you
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
thanks! had a smidge more time and comments like this make it worth it
@tryingmybest206
@tryingmybest206 Год назад
Petrol prices have been falling in the US? Damn in Australia it has NOT been falling, it's been rising
@emmamarentette
@emmamarentette Год назад
nice video, I really enjoy the work you are doing
@carlsoll
@carlsoll 4 месяца назад
These are so cool. Thanks Phil! Great videos, awesome stufff
@XxXenosxX
@XxXenosxX Год назад
Always informative, thank you Phil!
@julianatlas5172
@julianatlas5172 Год назад
Gas in European English means natural gas, so the "gas shortage" is a different thing. (We call the car liquid petrol)
@nirakhurana
@nirakhurana Год назад
I think another issue for the US and some countries would be that there is not really alternatives to transportation for people in or outside cities.
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
Wouldn't it encourage carpooling?
@one-man-band
@one-man-band Год назад
Just leaving a comment because you're awesome.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
don’t deserve it but i’ll take it!
@connorhalleck2895
@connorhalleck2895 Год назад
The solution now is electric buses. If we can get just people in cities to take transit by making transit actually great like having dedicated bus lanes and buses that run every six minutes, we can aluminate a huge amount of gas usage which will free up gas for the people who actually need it
@RoxYgen03
@RoxYgen03 Год назад
Always fascinating.
@channdler
@channdler Год назад
I really love the personal channel. Incredible quality videos for a smaller audience. feel like I'm in the VIP club
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
new york’s hottest club…is this youtube channel
@channdler
@channdler Год назад
@@PhilEdwardsInc you have got to try the Why the USA nuked mannequins. incredible original recipe
@peppermintalist
@peppermintalist Год назад
I’m new here and am loving your channel! Such great topics. I feel like the same stories are told over and over, but there are so many others we never hear. Thank you!
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
thanks! that's a goal so nice of you to mention!
@matt45540
@matt45540 Год назад
Rationing doesn't necessarily mean reducing consumption, it's redistributing the consumption to people who actually need it.
@Darknamja
@Darknamja Год назад
We had gas rations when I lived in the FRG in the '70s. I drove an economical VW Beetle.
@cwaldrip
@cwaldrip Год назад
Pain in that laughter? Nah… dude’s high as a satellite. :-p
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
in california?!? in the 70s?!?!! never!
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
How to ration gas to solve climate change? How about a cap and trade system? 1. Everyone with a driver's license has a DK number, so the government can create individual accounts using DMV info. 2. The government rations credits into ever driver's DL account, as needed. 3. Driver's swipe, scan, at pump or show DL to the cashier before fueling. 4. When credits reach zero, pump turns off. 5. Credits also redeemable on ride-sharing apps, airlines, and mass transit. 6. Government gradually reduces credits over time, forcing behavior change. 7. Angry people, happy planet.
@meluckycharms111
@meluckycharms111 Год назад
You could probably use this to draw some conclusions on what may happen in areas of the world struggling with water availability
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
oof never would have thought of that, but yeah
@jonathandevries2828
@jonathandevries2828 Год назад
i imagine if gas rationing had to be done today, the government would follow the EBT model...basically a credit card
@noahrenken3773
@noahrenken3773 Год назад
Love these videos. Always enjoy the Sunday posts; this is somewhat like a church, right?
@mbox314
@mbox314 Год назад
The real solution to a fuel shortage would be to raise prices. Rationing makes the doctors and nurses wait in line along with the college students on break. The people in the government of course who print the ration cards can hand them out to their friends and family, government officials won't be subject to rationing and the artificially low price will not encourage extra production.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 Год назад
It's the government NO it's not gonna be updated. They'll be somebody wondering why all these newspaper delivery vehicles are running around with full tanks in 2223.
@FimiliarGalaxy9
@FimiliarGalaxy9 Год назад
“Anybody who is capable to drill, go ahead and drill”. There that’s how… there is no reason we don’t do this already.
@ailo4x4
@ailo4x4 Год назад
I remember growing up and seeing all the government ads offering public information. All you had to do was write the office in Pueblo, Colorado. It seemed then to be the repository of all human knowledge ;-)
@Xanderall
@Xanderall Год назад
What? A new Phil video? And it's not even my bday!! Hold on, I'm gonna grab a cup of coffee and get in my comfy chair to watch it proper!
@MaxVliet
@MaxVliet Год назад
we have an energy crisis in the UK atm with prices set to rise 400% this year... I wish they would ration based on need rather than on the ability to pay because millions will not be able to afford their bills come winter :(
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
Exactly. That's a good example of where a rationing system might work. Maybe tie it to individual driver's license numbers? So you have to swipe or scan your DL at the pump or the clerk scans or enters your DL number. Rich people get the same rations as poor people. Essential services get exempt. Could be easier to control and no need to physically create anything so it could be implemented quickly.
@krysnb84
@krysnb84 Год назад
Very interesting and good to think about in this day and age, thanks for making and vanilla coke yummm 😋
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
the diet vanilla coke has given me a renewed sense of purpose!
@mbogucki1
@mbogucki1 Год назад
Gas Rationing wouldn't be that bad if North America didn't design their cities around the car. But in the great "Urban Renewal" experiment of the 60s/70s they designed the suburbs in a way where you have to drive 30mins just to buy a bag of milk.
@kevinmcgrath5126
@kevinmcgrath5126 Год назад
I mean, we already have EBT cards that are fairly widely used to manage SNAP benefits, would something similar not work for rationing gasoline? They're compatible with many POS systems widely in use today at grocery stores, bodegas, convenience stores, etc.
@maureennalepa8548
@maureennalepa8548 Год назад
That was my thought exactly. I don't know what white market would look like with those, but we can transfer all kinds of balances, so I assume it's possible.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
I wonder if there you’d run into problems matching with vehicle registration (if it were still done that way).
@drewdavis2392
@drewdavis2392 Год назад
If the plan includes a white market so that transferring your unneeded ration were legal, then you don't need to match the card with the vehicle.
@Wat-Dat
@Wat-Dat Год назад
I love your videos
@Wat-Dat
@Wat-Dat Год назад
@🅦hatsapp+⓵⓸⓵⓸⓶⓺⓼⓷⓻⓪⓪ shut up
@cooljonathan
@cooljonathan Год назад
Even if there isn't an oil shortage, we should just ration gas anyways to discourage driving and ease traffic.
@karlkastor
@karlkastor Год назад
East Germany had a huge reserve of a new currency to replace the old one in case of an extreme inflation
@michaelgergen4318
@michaelgergen4318 Год назад
I found your take on contact tracing interesting. Were you not concerned about the privacy implications and what kind of precedent it was setting?
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
I’m personally not, but I know a ton of people are (no doubt reasonably), so that seems like a reason an app gad solution might be doomed too.
@TSZatoichi
@TSZatoichi Год назад
I think Phil made this video just so he could use the "laughing man" clip.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
not untrue
@ikeyshuster9801
@ikeyshuster9801 Год назад
Great
@writethatdown100
@writethatdown100 Год назад
I think a better title of the video might be "Why the U.S printed millions of gas coupons" or something like that. Idk though
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
fair!
@JamesJimmyMcGill
@JamesJimmyMcGill Год назад
Whoa, your videos are way underrated what's up with that? Cheers, keep it up.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Thanks, Snot Brains (hahah, that was a joy to type).
@aerokas4817
@aerokas4817 Год назад
On today's episode of what am I doing while watching your videos, Today I am cleaning the laundry which involves the kitty quarters and little presents where they shouldn't be 🎁
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
i’ll give them a talking to
@biwook
@biwook Год назад
I don't think there will be major fuel shortages in the next decade or so, but electricity shortage seems very likely. It'd have huge consequences in a world that's gone half digital. Rationing solutions for electricity would be something more hi-tech than physical coupons. I'm not even sure how it could be implemented on current electrical infrastructure.
@johnpaulsylvester3727
@johnpaulsylvester3727 Год назад
I’ve been wondering a lot lately how different America would look today if Eisenhower had pushed for massive rail expansion instead of the interstate system.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
That’s a cool idea for an alternate history. I think his military background helped push him to highways for sure.
@HipyoTech
@HipyoTech Год назад
Man if only we weren't so car dependent as a culture/country. :(
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
It is hard to imagine escaping it at this point….the only way out is through.
@jordanmcgrory2171
@jordanmcgrory2171 Год назад
I think the dismissal of a digital solution is based solely on the US experience of the pandemic. Other countries did far better when it came to digital contact tracing, online booking of vaccine appointments etc. and may be willing to embark upon a digital approach to ration coupons. It'd certainly be cheaper to woosh a fresh coupon onto a person's smartphone than to print and handout physical tokens. The handing out in particular would be labour intensive.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
And this is about rationing in the US!
@SirBlade666
@SirBlade666 Год назад
These days it would either be app-based or use camera's to scan your license plate and check your gas allowance in a central database.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Maybe someday…but not anytime soon IMHO.
@cadenbigler
@cadenbigler Год назад
Honestly it sounds like that plan they had was not too bad. I do wonder if with significantly better technology there would be a more simple way of distribution. For instance if we could get everyone to download an app that they would scan before getting gas (that you signed into with your driver's license, or something. That might be a challenge) it might actually be pretty simple to keep track of gas purchases and consumption for individuals. However we'd probably have people complaining about government overreach just like we had during COVID. Another difficulty about utilizing technology is ensuring that everyone could have access to it. The nice thing about those physical cards is that they would be much easier to distribute to lower income families who would honestly be affected most by gas shortages. At the end of the day sometimes not involving technology might be the surest solution. Interesting thoughts, thanks for the vid!
@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw
@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw Год назад
Ohh a movie about robbing the gas coupons to sell on the black market
@fiolettbjorn7461
@fiolettbjorn7461 11 месяцев назад
My heart dropped when I thought about the white market implications of this in today's world 😮
@jimboshizz
@jimboshizz Год назад
Odd numbers seems the most logical to me, no need to print anything or do anything more than check the number plates coming in, which can work with ANPR
@pewtone
@pewtone Год назад
0:55 😆🍻
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
🍻
@rbyerly
@rbyerly Год назад
If the world is still around in 10 years, my bet is on electrification of cars and we ditch fossil fuels.
@cee8mee
@cee8mee Год назад
How do you get the electricity? Solar and wind can't do it all.
@eragonlindemann7236
@eragonlindemann7236 Год назад
All that does is move the consumption of those fuels up the line a stage.
@MrTrevorkemp
@MrTrevorkemp Год назад
The problem with gas rationing is implementing a solution that would be virtually fail proof would be difficult cuz you couldn't rely on a virtual way of rationing gas you would have to give some physical media to people that either gas pumps would have to be able to accept and dispense a certain amount of gas and probably still charge for it or you might even have to go into the gas station and pay up front for the specific number of units of gas that you are trying to get the other problem is if we went into gas rationing for people like me I'm a full-time Rideshare driver giving passenger rides so I would need the Rideshare company I'm working for to require the people who are getting rides to a lot me some of their gas rations as well so that way I could continue to keep putting gas in my car so that way I could keep driving those people around if we did a physical media gas ration ticket like we did for the example you showed for World War II I would essentially have to require that people handed me a ration coupon before I could start the trip with them and hopefully each ration coupon is not for a full gallon more like a quarter of a gallon or a third of a gallon or a half of a gallon but in order for that to work for us Rideshare drivers we would have to start telling the Rideshare companies are odometer readings and how much gas we put in to fill up the tank of the car every time so they could work out a fuel economy so they could require the proper amount of gas rations for a net gain but they would have to base that average on the worst fuel economy car in the fleet in the area cuz it may not be me showing up in a Toyota Prius it could be somebody showing up in a Jeep or even a Toyota Land Cruiser that's getting a measly 13 miles per gallon instead of my 40 plus mile per gallon car but the amount of gas rations exchanged would have to be something determined by the Rideshare company so that way when people go and order rides they could be told how much of their rations they would have to be willing to trade to the company to then trade to us so that way we could keep gas in our cars to keep giving these people rides gas rationing would become a gigantic pain in the butt or at least if we did a physical media thing they could tell the people how much gas rations to give us it's kind of funny because probably having a Rideshare sticker in your windshield would allow you to free purchase gas just as long as you have the ration coupons where even if you did have the ration coupons some places might not be willing to dispense gas cuz it would probably be more of a logbook type thing as well so I could start getting stickers for Rideshare companies and selling them for big bucks for people who have the rations but just aren't being given the gas.
@andrewo4814
@andrewo4814 Год назад
1. Driver's license numbers from the DMV get associated with a government fuel ration account. 2. Drivers swipe their DL at the pump before it dispenses fuel. Pump will stop if credits run out. 3. For ride shares, riders register their DL with the ride-sharing app. 4. Credits transfer from the rider to the driver for each ride, based on distance and will error if account is zero. Also, no additional credits for Jeep drivers vs. Prius drivers. The whole point is to incentivize conservation.
@jevandezande
@jevandezande Год назад
It would be nice if this video had comments from economists on the potential best way to deal with a shortage. My understanding is that they seem to favor market based solutions such as higher gas taxes to reduce consumption, but such measures are politically unpopular. Some of this could be offset via direct payments from the government-the high prices would then cause many people to find ways to conserve gas, but people could also afford it if necessary thanks to the government handout.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
Yeah, I mean they love carbon pricing too, but politically is it gonna happen? 🤷‍♂️
@tbird81
@tbird81 Год назад
If they ever make a remake of ALF, you need to be Willie Tanner!
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
I’d love the opportunity to work with someone from Melmac.
@PraxZimmerman
@PraxZimmerman Год назад
You know, cut 75% of our gas consumption, and triple ethanol production, and we'd probably survive all gasoline disappearing. Painful as all hell, don't get me wrong, and would probably need to do the same with biodiesel, but it wouldn't be any worse than WWII I don't think.
@RooSandwich
@RooSandwich Год назад
I'm kinda tired so I don't really have much to comment apart from the fact that I really enjoyed this brief analysis of the history of gas rationing in the US. Also just wanna give the algorithm a little nudge towards your channel
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
thanks for the nudge - have a good nap/sleep
@WalterBurton
@WalterBurton Год назад
You already see the first stage of imposed gasoline rationing going on right now: price fluctuation. We won't see stronger measures (odd-even or debit cards or whatever) in this country until we're 1) in an openly-declared war posture (😬😬😬), ***AND*** 2) actually suffering national shortages. Think Colonial Pipeline x 10, or, maybe, shipping a lot of refined product out of the country (to support an ally or occupy a country or whatever); that's the sort of environment we'd have to be in. The US doesn't have a gasoline supply problem. Not any more. But it's an interesting historical topic (because I was there, man, in '79! I love this stuff!) and just always fascinating to think about how to manage societal behavior. 👍👍👍
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
I can only half believe it was so bad with OPEC. Craziness.
@WalterBurton
@WalterBurton Год назад
@@PhilEdwardsInc : It was weird. Unsettling. And we blamed it all on Jimmy Carter. Which was so unfair.
@aanariananda3963
@aanariananda3963 Год назад
Indonesia have this app that rationing fuel that get subsidized by goverment
@jbstepchild
@jbstepchild Год назад
How much money is wasted by the gov every year on ideas that might help but fall short the mark some would have been great ideas an others what was they thinking any time there is a control on something the cost to maintain that control is 10+ times more expensive
@gameeverything816
@gameeverything816 Год назад
Neat
@fburton8
@fburton8 Год назад
What goes around comes around.
@josephmiller9180
@josephmiller9180 Год назад
I thought this was a new video and the shave the moustache vote won! 😱
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
sadly the mustache won out
@josephmiller9180
@josephmiller9180 Год назад
@@PhilEdwardsInc long live the stache
@andrewweaver2517
@andrewweaver2517 Год назад
Jam band economics?
@JoelEblin
@JoelEblin Год назад
I do wonder how drivers with electric cars would fit into the mix with a gas ration.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
That’s a great question. The 1979 plan makes me think they’d get nothing, but the IRA makes me think there’s be some sort of bonus.
@patrick247two
@patrick247two Год назад
You don't need rationing, just sensible vehicles.
@grantfredrickson5803
@grantfredrickson5803 Год назад
Don’t temp Murphy’s law 😅
@schnibbyy
@schnibbyy Год назад
If only we didn't have an administration trying to kneecap our energy production at every turn :(
@ThatSkiFreak
@ThatSkiFreak Год назад
By the time any of this would be an issue most of us will be driving electric cars or hybrids, so it kind of doesn’t really matter for the future imo. Still interesting video.
@PhilEdwardsInc
@PhilEdwardsInc Год назад
that’s what i’m hoping/thinking too
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing
@Nathaniel_E_Dearing Год назад
Even now they're making it unnecessarily harder to get gasoline, so I wouldn't put it past them to overly ration it. Let's face it, they want the reliable petroleum cars gone, in favor of electric ticking-timebombs of which the electrical grids can't take the strain of.
@VictorMartinez-zf6dt
@VictorMartinez-zf6dt Год назад
Rationing is best way to make sure nobody gets anything.
@spacepeanut8993
@spacepeanut8993 5 месяцев назад
It was about tires, not gasoline. Really enjoy the channel though!
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