How God of War Ragnarok was RUINED 

Oh no. Look at all these contrarian snowflake haters think that they are right because of some random guy's negative review of a great game. Boo hoo.

Stfu this game is amazing

curious but you should try out wh40k darktide

@@theskorpio1 "Oh no! Criticism! How scawy 😢"

@@george2p isn't the guy in video doing same

Yeah, I was expecting some epic show down and set piece with Thor like the previous games but the fight kind of just ends before it even gets started. Baldur had a more epic fight

They literally changed it so that it doesn’t take a long time for the players to get there tho they really wanted to make us climb it ourselves at first. It just says so much about devs care in the past compared to now

i can't imagine going through Pandora's Temple with this tight close up camera angle

The sensitive snowflakes would be running to boycott GoW 1-3 if they released today

​@@firepenguin38you mean liberals?

@@lowdistortion yes or anyone else who finds things sensitive like that. I understand maybe monitoring younger kids. Yes mainly liberals to answer that. Ever played Arkham city? I know it's off topic here, but I gurantee you they would complain about Talia or Catwoman and it the game could be patched now it would.... That is what I'm playing atm lol

Chronos fight? Kills foder enemies 5 minute QTE'S rinse repeat for 3 games nice 👍

Word makes me wanna play them again which I'll definitely do

@@javierduque7809 It wasn't just "fodder enemies and QTEs," that's a very shallow interpretation of the level. There was also lots of cool platforming involved. Yeah, there were fodder enemies, but the spectacle was really impressive and much more memorable than copy/pasted Troll ogres. There are many bosses in the GoW trilogy that had strategy/etc, not all of them were QTEs/fodder. Chronos was one of those QTE fights, but it was really memorable because the fight was whole level itself. You are literally climbing/platforming him.

RIGHT! There was not one set piece in this game half as cool as mount Olympus or hades.

@@javierduque7809 oh yeah because half of this game isn’t walking and listening to dialogue or watching a cutscene, just to then fight fodder enemies lol 😂

Even Ironwood felt like the Kingdom Hearts 2 prologue. No longer playing the main character, much more limited move set, you’re stuck with other characters you don’t have any attachment to, you have loads of cutscenes interrupting gameplay and you don’t really know where it’s going or why you’re there.

I am also one of those players who love GoW for the combat and doesn't care about the story so much. I finished GoW 2018 10 times, just for perfecting the entertaining combat. The Ironwood is one reason why I won't finish Ragnarok 10 times. That section just steals a whole evening from me on every playthrough. It is such a huge pain in the ass. I am sick of all those people solely consider GoW as a heartbreaking family drama... I WANT COMBAT AND GORE GODDAMIT!!! I hope they let us skip all that soap opera bullshit with the New Game+ update.

that would be synthetic man he has a wayy more brutal and harsh review on gow ragnarok

I completely agree. I absolutely hated this section on the game and I couldn't wait for it to End. Unless they make an option to skip the Atreus sections or at least Ironwood in New Game Plus, I don't ever see myself replaying the game.

@@joshalan5125 they shouldve kept the option to skip cutscenes like WTF is up with that anyways

Worse yet you typically can't skip those types of "cutscenes".

useless cut scenes shouldn't exist

i miss the nostalgic feeling of playing videogames where it suddenly shifted into a cutscene like in jade empire or warcraft 3, where it took you out of the game engine for a minute and you were just as interested in the story being shown as you were in how they were animating it, walking simulator mode while you have to mash R1 or walk as an npc talks are fucking boring.

DMC 3 did it best, cutscenes at beginning and end of mission / post boss battle, inbetween is pure gameplay / puzzle solving, makes it really easy to jump in and play a good mission.

@@christopherjones5700 you mean like the CGI in GoW1/GoW2

In Gow Ghost of Sparta You fight another Giant Sea Monster too and in Gow Chains of Olympus you fight a Giant Creature

Why bro

@@isaac-ga I don't remember, it was 3 months ago lol

@@jaake6019 I mean it wasn't that bad like u said it's argt ya kratos gameplay is better but Atreus section isnt bad

Is that the one in Ironwoods or whatever it is called? Playing through that segment made me doubt whether I would ever want to replay the game.

@@Tazza19931 ya that riding on a yatch section right? It's too long

Because will make the new axe toy look like shit which by default are, just comparing how kratos was Spiderman with baldes of chaos doing such brutal epic moments with it and now they try to pseudo replace it with just a fk axe it like making a secondary weapon of gow 2 or 3 the main weapon , a fk axe could never replace the blades of caos

@@jaotrx7163 Well damn lmao

@@jaotrx7163​​⁠I mean the axe isn’t weak just cause you don’t like it. It went on par with mjolnir and froze its lightning, which I feel like is as good a feat as the blades ever got. Also for them being weaker, kratos is supposed to be holding back his strength, in the old games that dude was fucking pissed off tryna kill anything he could. Now he’s just tryna protect his son and so he purposely doesn’t use all his power cause he’d go bonkers. And with how cinematic the game is you can imagine they want the gameplay to be fairly lore accurate.

@@marcom9299he still rips the limbs off of his enemies,how does ripping a werewolf’s jaw off less forcefully than normal make you a better person

@@froginabucket7294 first of all in the 2018-2022 games he’s pretty much only killing in self defense and atreus’ defense. Also it’s not a about being a, “better person.” It’s about not losing himself in his anger and going too far.

The whole time I was playing..I was like…is this it? This doesn’t feel epic or Ragnaroky at all!

@The Unguided Millenial That's what happens when you rush the story by ending it in a second game rather than building up the story with a trilogy.

@@YEY0806 I don't think I could take 3 of these games. Maybe it is good they ended it in 2.

That’s how I felt after watching his 2018 video. I had just beat the game and just felt kind of bored. Whereas after each of the first 3 I usually played it over after beating it the first time.

You already felt that way but couldn’t communicate it even to yourself, so you need a talking head to do it for you. You’ve chosen a really bad head though.

Yeah. Story about brainless brawl stuff. A guy came from Greece to have a quiet life but the local Gods are so bored and without anything better to do so they going berserk against Kratos just for fun. Like wtf.

@@ps4games164 bruh, Odin has to be one a THE MOST FREAKIN TYPICAL "bad king"s in caucasian mythos 😂😂😂 his behavior matched his voice *too well* and Ive seen so many people defend the BS with "oh, thats how odin was REALLY like in norse mythos".... but..... *why does that mean its Good and/or I Can't Think Its Utter Trash* ????? 🤔 it's a *GOD OF WAR* game lmaooooo

thats what happens when you hire marvel phase 4 writers lmao.

Yesss bro if atreas dies and we see kratos full of rage ready to destroy everything for vengeance maybe then the gamd was ac gonna be good,heck maybe even was gonna be good enough to be called GOD OF WAR GAME and fatherhood adventures

@@ps4games164 I literally just watched all the cutscenes for all three games as a refresher and that's literally not what happened at all

Because it cusses and is violent

@@mosesmorales8601 Oooooo bad woordsss. It’s barely violent enough to be M you ain’t even killing people half the time

@@1CursedXD1 inappropriate language is one of the requirements for it to be rated m for mature dingus. And ripping people in half with the blades is a lil to violent for a child

@@mosesmorales8601 I mean GoW 3 was rated M because you disembowel people and monsters and literally rip off someone’s head with your bare hands and there are naked chicks and blood everywhere too. This game is as close to “fantasy violence” as it gets, boohoohoo someone said the F word.

@@1CursedXD1 😒

Thought I was the only one who saw through the triple a psyop

“Overly bias fanbase”? You mean people who like the game because it’s fantastic?

@@royaltyfree9607 you can say you think the game is fantastic and that’s fine. But to assume the game is fantastic is a fact is just wrong and anyone can claim the opposite with the same amount of evidence

But the mAsTerPIecE.....

@@royaltyfree9607 fine for you.its a very nice game.but no god of war.thats all we say and hate.just took the gow title and make a NEW GAME!

OH REALLY!? I WONDER WHY!?

@@emojiko1124 😂😂😂😂😂

Oh no. Look at all these contrarian snowflake haters think that they are right because of some random guy's negative review of a great game. Boo hoo.

@@emojiko1124 hahahahahahaha

I guess you're not popular enough or probably because you don't upload gaming walkthroughs or stream them idk why they didn't probably because you hated 2018 idk really know

definitely not intentional

@Asistls lmao do you think they just tripped and their pen hit a piece of paper and coincidentally wrote the story?

@@StinkyBuster No, but when Santa Monica decided to go from 3 games to 2, it seems they cut Tyr and Giants out of the story altogether... The Giants are pretty useless (they seem to depend on knowledge of the future and like ostriches bury their heads in the sand instead of joining up with the other realms to oppose the Aesir; this is probably the section of the painting at the end of the 1st game which shows Faye arguing with the other giants) and Angrboda, with all her talk of unchangeable fate is made to look like a fool by the Norns, so much so that first Faye and then Atreus have to turn away from their sheer uselessness to attempt to combat the Aesir tyranny. The scene with the Norns invalidates a lot of choices made earlier and consequently much of the story elements linked to it.

A weak point. These things were destined to happen. He expresses a couple times that he wants to help people by stopping ragnarok. He doesn’t want to stop it just cause. Mayo completely left out the good nature/ intentions of a lot of the actions Atreus takes purely because he doesn’t like the Norse era. Atreus is aggravating sometimes but to make it seem like he wanted to fight just cause is ridiculous and disingenuous. The realms were literally under OPPRESSION. And he freed what he thought was tyr. Who’s a good guy. In order to give the nine realms a good chance against the aesir. Bruh will go from making a good point to making the worst point ever

@@inirs08 Crazy because in Marvel they fight Aesir all the Time and Are Formidable and Ymir I think is even compared to Odin( In Marvel Odin has the Odin Force) In power.

I'm honestly surprised with how many positives he had about Ragnarok as well. I even agreed with some of his criticisms. Definitely thought he was just going to rant. Glad he made it more impartial.

@Andrew Espinosa Yeah, I agree. So I question why there are still fanboy dumbassess in the comment sections still complaining that this is a whiny, ranty critique with no points made. It's even more hilarious that some are getting so pent up about Mayo thinking he was being referenced by the game since this dude has actually made podcasts with game directors and personally has given feedback that other devs took seriously, and yet they say it's proof his a narcissist. Smh, if you're gonna come to already hate and not actually watch the video, then go away or otherwise don't be surprised when people only take your hate comment as a hate comment.

I doubt that

And when i say things like he did people attack me in every damn gow video because i butthurt everyone ( like always)

Finally good thread. No stubbornness from either side. He made valid points, but it depends on the player what they enjoy. No game is perfect for everyone. And true is totally different from og trilogy.

It's a fuckin GOW game with a disney or marvel template. When I met odin for the first time in Ragnarok I was like wtf? This is Odin? This is how Odin sounds and talks? Wtf am I playing? Then the fact as soon as I get into Kratos learning/unlocking new stuff upgrading etc I have to play as annoying ass Atreus? I buy GOW to play as Kratos not anyone else. If they want me to play a different character then do a whole different game where I play as that character. Dont integrate playing a different character other than Kratos in GOW.

@@nucklehead718 truth

@@nucklehead718 haha than never play tlou2 after you played tlou1 😅😅

@@chaTzon I have played tlou loved it. Heard and saw the bs they did in tlou2 so I didnt bother playin it.

@@FourLionsClips ty

this is so true also don't forget about Surtur who just agrees too easily to help cause Ragnarok. I expected a boss fight with him when he first pushed Kratos away, but no, he has nothing to live for moreover he has the heart of his lover (forgot her name), so no sacrifice is needed, how convenient Even Kratos is aware of this and says "this feels too easy" right before we fight two easy valkyries that served zero purpose to the story

@@suhaib9001 He says it feels too easy because he expected Odin to try and stop them. Which turns out to be true. Though I do agree that it felt a bit rushed at the end.

Yea, it was pretty dissapointed

Did Ragnorok even happen

@@suhaib9001 at first, ngl, I thought Odin was disguised as Surtr because how easily he was convinced. I was also expecting a boss fight, but it seemed too easy. The ending did feel rushed. We didn’t even get Surtr do damage to Asgard, he was just in the background

True The backseat gaming was so annoying.

I honestly just wish there was a way to turn it off, like they do with all the other accessibility stuff

Preach

True, but when you take too long to do something, that’s when NPC hints start getting reasonable.

@@personperson1254 nah, they do it after basic actions consistently.

In God of War 2 Trailer Kratos is Fighting Two Giant Enemies

2018 has scale with its destruction like in the Baldur fight and with the Dragon

How was Kratos nerfed? Didn’t he beat the previously untouchable Heimdall? He bodied Thor who towers over him. Just in the last game he flipped Tyr’s temple!

@@thatoneguy1232 He would've never struggled with someone like Heimdall in Greece.

@@codafett what do you mean? Kratos struggled a lot. He even died a few times😂. And no one in Greece had abilities quite like Heimdall’s. And even then, when Kratos got that hit in, it was all over for him. Are you just misremembering these things or what?

Are you missing the young kratos who would fight the gods fiercely, or kratos who would do stupid shit that YOU want him to do.. understand then talk.

@@BJ4lmao What?

Play it. Might change your opinion.

@@blakseed I have it and I am forcing myself to finish it.

@@secretmulletman7984 Don't. Play good old PS2 games. :^)

@@595no agreed

@@blakseed he’s right. I’m playing these games since 2005 and never been this disappointed in a God of War game since. Hell this was almost as disappointing as R&C remake.

Combat balanced around a mechanic where you build your runic attacks through combat would be a lovely direction.

There's really no incentive to just 'wait around' though. In normal fights mobs will swarm you so you might as well thin the herd with your normal attacks, and (mini)bosses are usually very aggressive. It's not like players can just backpedal/turtle and wait for their runic attacks to become usable.

@@Jerry-dx3cb Yes, players can just wait for the runic attacks to become usable again. I'm one of them, and just spam them as I rotate weapons for boss fights because I want to get through the story faster instead of spending time and effort in the part of the game I am not interested in.

@@keanuxu5435 so you're not interested in the gameplay... which is the main part of the game

@@Slavic_Snake No. I was only interested in the dev's version of Norse Mythology, which is great and refreshing.

Zeus is not even that good of a boss lol

@@lorenzosari577 both odin and Zeus are pretty rad bosses imo.

@Lorenzo Sari Umm Why? That fight had incredible emotional intensity. Like you seriously want to bash the shit out of him, he has several phases that change up the boss fight and requires the player to be thoughtful of their attacks due to blocking spamming, utilising clones to encourage area of effect attacks, punishes the players negligence by constantly healing in the last phase and has unblockable attacks to encourage more defensive approaches beyond dodge and block. Seems a great boss to me

We've really lowered the bar in terms of what fits the definition of a game...

That would be pretty shit honestly not being able to just watch a movie instead you have to press a button to watch it.

Today these games directors just want to make a movie, I mean game to gain awards

I hope you don’t mean that gow is in that category because it’s a lot more than button smashing QTE to trigger the next cutscene

Idiocracy really wasn't just any movie

Yeah NG+ is a hard pass for me.

It’s weirder considering they updated God of war 2018 to be able to skip cutscenes and have new game plus. I mean the old games you couldn’t skip them either but this one is significantly longer so it’s kinda a problem. Hopefully they update it

Its because the whole point is to see the game in one fluid cut, breaking u0 the scenes would go against that

@@VarinderBhandal then it's probably a day one edition that forces players to watch the cutscenes and experience the game as they intended - as their interactive cinematic "experience", and speedrunners can have their fun next year.

my brother in christ its a story driven game, thats the strongest part of it, why the fuck do you want to skip the cut scenes

@@glyph__ exactly!!!!!!!

Is it just me or does Freya’s hair keep getting in the way during combat?

They are tripping, they could have atleast did this for certain points when characters bond or etc. They could have mixed the traditional camera but want to grab folks emotions too much

Is there Finnish mythology in the game my guy?

Alva?

Y'all really need to take off the rose tinted nostalgia glasses, this is just delusional. The combat system in the modern series obliterates the OG trilogy

@@b1thearchitect401 big disagree here. Variety and incentive to play well were present. Many different moves to chose, aerial combat, xp/blood mechanic with reward based on performance. Until yesterday it has been 10 years since i touched the originals, and yesterday i played them again (1,2) and realised that although not perfect, the old combat system is LEAGUES more fun, deep and intense. Im not even a hardcore fun of the series and even i can see that. Not saying the new games are bad, people like/love for a reason, but they do not TOUCH the old ones as hack and slash/character action games (however you call them).

@@thanospavel9970 You're completely and utterly ignoring the feel of the combat, which is massively less impactful and powerful in the old games, IMO the chains feel like they were barely making contact with enemies and minus the quick time event kill animations, those games had pretty floaty and low impact combat. Also while there might be mechanical incentives to encourage engaging with the deeper combos and mechanics, I rarely if ever found myself in those games actually using it, those games were tough, and there were a few blade combos that just felt objectively better than everything else, so you end up spamming to survive really tough encounters. In practice, I find GOW 2018 & Ragnarok, I actually use the full suite of moves available a LOT more often. - I'll give you credit though, both you and the creator of this video have a good point in regards to a combo system, I actually think a skill based reward system for high level play would work great in the new series and I'm kind of surprised they don't have it. I guess the increased focus on narrative means they don't want to alienate shitty players lol. But I'm happy the high difficulty settings are still VERY challenging and the game doesn't just purely cater to casual Uncharted fans.

@@b1thearchitect401 i fully agree with everything. I too always thought that the sounds in the originals could have been a lot more satisfying. And yes, i do remember some instances where the combat devolves to mashing (unless you are playing on higher difficulties but not many people do that on their first playthrough).Also, it is true that harder difficulties do make 2018 and Ragnarok even more fun (haven't played Ragnarok since it's not out on pc yet so I'm just assuming). I usually don't like Very slow paced games but 2018 was a good game. I can certainly say that the people that made it and Ragnarok have passion.

@@thanospavel9970 I don't mean to rag on the OG trilogy, as I think especially GOW3 still holds up as a really fun and still graphically impressive game, but yeah the main mechanical reason I prefer the new series is the FAR crunchier, heavier feel to combat. The Leviathan axe particularly just feels fucking awesome IMO (The new spear weapon actually feels powerful af too). Ragnarok is a big step from 2018 in terms of enemy encounter design and variety, as well as combo depth and variety. Definitely give it a shot when it inevitably comes to PC.

Same

Same

Real

Yea like ten fold. I could not even beat 2018. Stay up and God bless.

Same

I was thinking the exact same thing while playing the final mission lol

The camera is honestly one of my biggest problems with the new games, I miss the old games camera it worked much better

True on both fronts

I hate that troll man.

Yeah, the camera was annoying especially for the second part of the Odin boss fight with Atreus and Freya.

Atreus was giving me Steven vibes from Steven Universe. "Preach non-violence against the violent, always reaching out to the literal genociders and abusers because it's good"

This game should be directed by Zack Snyder.

They should have never introduced thrud and sif. All thrud does in the game is flirt with atreus. Drunk thor scene was so unnecessary. When i saw it i was like ,"when did gow become like this". Humour is justifiable in the game but not excess of it. Gow games need to be bit serious than this. Odin talks way to modernly . In actual norse mythology aesir are very loyal to eachother. Thor and kratos fight was one of the most anticipated fights in gaming. But the hype was for nothing. The beginning of the game was really good, thor reviving kratos and trying kratos to bring him back to his older self. Everyone wanted kratos v thor 1v1 deathbattle. They showed that thor was bloodlusty(less then kratos) . It took kratos 7 seven games to change and you tell me thor was convinced by kratos under 3 sec talk? It's okay if kratos didn't keep mjolnir because its moveset would be very similar to leviathan axe. But what disappoints is that kratos didn't even lift mjolnir by his hands once. Instead game showed that he was struggling to lift it even though he swung mjolnir with his chain. But wanted kratos to bash thor's head with the hammer. Odin bossfight was a joke. First thor fight was good. Second thor fight was good but short, it should have been a deathbattle. Last important thing is that they were supposed to show strongest version of kratos in this game because cory said old kratos is stronger than young kratos. But in the game kratos said that when he was young he wielded every flavor of power imaginable and said he lost most of his powers after gow 3. And cory wont even say how old kratos is more strong meanwhile the game is telling us that he is not that powerful now. How are we supposed to believe that he is more powerful than his younger self. They didn't show anything big. We know kratos was holding back as already stated in the game. But we already saw dad of boi we wanted to see god of war.

@@blackmask5335 I understand wanting to see young Kratos again, but that would just be gow 3 all over again. We know what happened and how it negatively affected Kratos. Why would he do that to himself again?

@@blackmask5335 Even the character designs themselves were lackluster imo. I honestly enjoyed the fan art of the some of the characters than what we got from the end product. Also with the writing, everything just seems so much more preachy and annoying. There literally wasn’t a single scene where I didn’t roll my eyes during the dialogue.

Believe me when I say, it definitely felt like those sections were made with GMGOW in mind. It is a struggle when playing as Atreus on that difficulty.

I don’t understand how it took them 4-5 years to release basically a dlc of the 2018 game. Maybe they could’ve done a trilogy if it wasn’t going to take them over a decade.

I think what we're looking at though is not twilight of the gods and that we'll look at this as maybe the end of the beginning of the first trilogy of an overarching story and why they cut this to 2 games vs. 3 so it won't push out to 20 years. I think the tear in Odin's workshop area is a bigger reveal or has something to do with the story's actual endgame. Odin / Ragnarok isn't the final boss anymore than Zeus was, which is why this story feels less like a conclusion because it's not...they have a bigger overall story arch they're working on that will play out over future years.

There are some glaring plot holes in this game, one even in the very beginning where Kratos refuses Odins peace deal (which gets himself killed btw). There is a diary entry trying to fill that hole by saying the terms are unacceptable, but they actually aren't.

@@spacejunk2186 Given Kratos bias against Gods and their words, it would be unbelievable if Kratos actually took a peace deal and trusted Odin.

@@spacejunk2186 looks like somebody forgot about Kratos’ past. He will never make a deal with a god after what he went through. Never again

Check me out. Maybe i can help out. Mayne. Idk

Thats cause writing an ending is hard alot ppl dont know how to. It takes a brilliant writer to answer every question left by them

WHO BLEW THE FUCKING HORN

@@matthewlugo2417 I’m not expecting every question to be answered. I just don’t want more being piled on while continuing to be so vague about what we wanted answered.

@Kiweel Tyler i get that, im not saying it cant be done im just saying it takes good writer to be able to clean up as it were

I think it’s that this game is missing the series’ signature “slow reveal/unlocking of a huge environments or obstacle”. Like how the old games were or how the 2018 one centered around Tyr’s temple and the Lake of the Nine. Little by little through environmental puzzles, and feats of strength you’d unlock the way forward where’s in Ragnarok you’re mostly always just going down these corridors with no overarching connection.

That desert no one knew about WAS the lake it’s gone due to fumble winter.

@@carsonshoe4532 oh

@@carsonshoe4532No it’s behind the lake / temple.

@@kartoffelchip4490it isn’t the lake

Thor comes off like a beaten dog trapped in a corner

@@JoshuaKevinPerry Agreed. It annoyed me how he couldn't think or stand up for himself.

@@calvinm1866 that's the point, it's to show how Odin can so easily manipulate people. His wife Even said how Odin sees his family only as tools.

@@ItsjustTNT123 Yeah.....I played the game, dude.

God you people are so dense

It's a good Movie though

That's pretty wild. It didn't feel nearly as clunky as a lot of these other games we have releasing nowadays and the story besides a rushed ending was still excellent

Then why you buy it then?

Maybe on paper but the way he comes across a whiny little baby

He holds back as much as kratos does in this game He doesn't want 2019 review backlash again 🤣

@Mike C besides the atreus thing he's got valid criticisms especially about the story pacing. It can get in the way when I want to enjoy the ganeplay which he acknowledged how much they improved upon. Not as unhinged as his gow 2018 review so I wouldn't feel some type of way about this one

@@lukelmaooooopeople tend to point and laugh at takes they disagree with, without considering the video as a whole and the context behind it. 'Bad take' is pretty meaningless here

@@frogglen6350 it’s not a skill issue, why is everything a skill issue today? Combat isn’t more difficult on harder levels, enemies merely gave more health. This doesn’t make combat more rewarding when you win, just makes the combat scenario take more time bc enemies are spongy

@@frogglen6350 a larger commentary on enemy sponginess needs to be addressed, yes I’m glad you agree

@@frogglen6350 the issue isn’t dying more than usual, the issue is drawn out encounters that make kratos feel under leveled, thus making player progression less rewarding

The new combat feels painfully slow really the only thing that was improved is graphics. story, gameplay, music I prefer the original titles.

@@frogglen6350 og gow enemies are not that spongy like the ones.

That's because Atreus sucks as a character and has caused the story to do a complete nose dive from its original story. Atreus is single handedly one of the most repetitive and annoying characters to deal with. He is the jar jar binx of gow and many of the long time fans would agree

I like Atreus fighting and then i got to the moment during the end where he turns into a bear to protect Sindri. His rage meter doesn’t go down until all the enemies are gone. I realized that that the game will do that type of trick everytime they don’t want you to die or fail.

I listened to podcast or background noise during some Atreus segments, they really slow the game down at inconvenient moments.

@@BphillipsARthat only happens for two moments, when he first turns into a wolf and when he turns into a bear. I think they do it because they just want to show off the power, even if you never actually use the bear again, which sucks.

@@theantsaretakingover yes, it’s essentially a playable cutscene. They want you to go apeshit

How?

​@@SBeh-yq7crfully upgrading armor will allow you to make it look like other armors while keeping you're stats

Multiple god of war personalities are referenced in Ragnarok. It's not far fetched to think that a scene that exactly recreates a montage from a GOW critique that has 750,000 views is a reference too.

@@underthemayo it's extremely far fetched actually, and I don't remember other youtubers getting referenced in the game

@@dogico I talk about it in my follow up video about Atreus. Black Thunder has appeared as an easter egg. I believe Kaptain Kuba is in something, I don't remember.

​​@underthemayo Mayo, I mean this in the best way, but I think you're severely overestimating how important your opinion is to the GOW writers. 😂

it's just a theory... a game theory :)

That set off a bunch of people lol mission accomplished

The new ones to me are essentially "what if we made Last of Us but with the God of War paintjob"

@@icebearnicho8256 Yahtzee coined the term Ghost Train Ride games.

Let's not pretend like God of War could ever hold a candle to Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden in terms of combat.

@@DeadEndScreamer When did I ever say it was close, better or worse? Literally didn't say that at all lmao. All I said was that it was a mix of those things, never said it was literally DMC, close, worse or better than it. People like you have these weird debates you make up in your head lol

I would say the opposite, the old ones are not super original, the hack and slash genre was supper popular back in the days, is just that god of war (and DMC) were the best in the genre by far. If you truly believe that God of War 2018 is just another walk simulator, oh boy you are very wrong, an story driven game that combines action combat, and actually works well and is not trying to be just another open world game (I'm looking at you AC origins/odyssey/Valhalla) with new technology and no loading screens, I mean, theres a reason why God of War 2018 blew everyone's mind when it came out. So, God of War (the old games) was not super original, it was just better than it's competitors, you are just being BIASED. P.D.: I myself grew up with this saga, I have played all the games (except for ragnarok for now) even god of war betrayal. Just let the fanchise grow up, mature you are probably no longer a kid, it's normal.

They don't even feel godly, in the previous games, the gods were commanding, intimidating, and full of power. Like Ares literally massacres a whole army with his will and throws a piller across a desert at pinpoint accuracy to kill Kratos easily. When the gods die in GOW3, there are literal consequences as the world worsens from each death. Then we have this game where the gods are basically just Marvel caricatures of gods, which are just superpowered humans whose feats are pathetic compared to the original games.

They all seem like disowned children of Greek gods.

I mean to be fair you could say that about the og trilogy

Absolutely agree. Boss fights didn’t feel BIG in this game. The original trilogy had much better boss fights. It’s a shame the final act wasn’t as grand as it could’ve been

Bruh that's because the Greek and Norse pantheon is different. Greek gods all have some domain they're tied to (Posideon with Sea, Helios with Sun etc.), so they were more metaphysical and shit. Where as in actual Norse mythology, gods don't have anything like that, maybe except for Thor. Plus they're all mortal and can die of old age (they have to eat Idunn apples to prolong their life.). Ofcourse they're gonna be seen as weaker lol

the combat in general especially the combos felt too samey imo

Bruh, I am not a fan of GoW Ragnarok either, but I don't know what the kind of twisted standard that you have is like if the lack of a barehanded skill tree is your biggest problem with the game.

@@ShadowbannedAccount ok, what was your issue with it then lol?

I personally prefer the combat system from god of war 2018 than ragnarok

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ShadowbannedAccountyour main gripe with the game was a lack of an entire skill tree and the watering down of the unarmed combat? Bruh well my biggest gripe was the story took too much time with giving characters development and how Kratos isn’t yelling every five minutes, what a twisted standard you have bruh. Your biggest issue with the game should be MY biggest issue!!!!! Fuck you for enjoying the game >:(

I dunno, I think it may have backfired. If it had some challenge maybe players would have been more engaged

I think Atreus was a fully powered up character right from the get go.. the animation cancel speed, turn speed etc.. whereas Kratos gets there in the end after the process of levelling up...

non sense. Just make Atreus sections good so no one is wanting to speed up and you don't have to even worse by making easier

I prefer a struggle over a breeze. They were fun but there wasn't enough challenge

That makes no sense

It wasn't original or unique.

@@Enskyed it was, keep malding

@@fyrijou5202 It literally was not, it's based on the run of the mill greek tragedy.

@@Enskyed ah yes, please tell me a story where a Mortal raged War against the Gods of Greece that was put in a game, or a hack and slash game in the style of God of War or anything like that before the age of 2005

@@fyrijou5202 They didn't make video games in ancient greece. Point is, the story at its core is literally just a greek tragedy, there's definitely unique elements but at it's core it's just that.

I agree but I think it’s just because of the controls and there is not enough buttons for blades of chaos without it being annoying

Could be that your axe is actually thrown and recalled… the blades and the spear are kinda stuck to you via the chain and the ring on your finger for the spear. Like, even though you’re throwing the spear, it’s technically still in your hand lol. I agree though, like an L2 throw quickly followed by a light or heavy attack giving an additional unique attack would’ve been DOPE!

I mean...you throw the axe at people and it needs to come back to you. The spear and the blades of chaos don't do that.

@@mickeybat5816 true. I'd argue you could either just punch with em in hand or just be able to sheath em.

Also now the only weapon with stance attacks. The blades and bare handed stances were taken out while not giving any stance to the spear to begin with.

Thanks.

b-but the ultrakill community already owned him, surely that means that every opinion of his is now invalid.

@@acethemain7776I mean the ultrakill community ultimately lost because there’s now actual benefits to doing well in ultrakill part 2. I love ultrakill, but not everything the fandom thinks is right and the devs showed that

@@britzmann Did you even watched the video? ☠️

@@underthemayo Tbh I'm just sad that I can't play it lol

The difference was that the Troll was used as a boss fight. The dreki are mini-bosses. And there are much more. 2018 aside from Trolls just had the Acients/Soul Eaters. Lets compare and contrast shall we? Mini/sub-bosses: 2018- 1. Trolls 2. Ancients/Soul Eaters Ragnarok- 1. Trolls 2. Ancient/Soul Eaters 3. Dreki 4. Drake 5. Dragons 6. Hunter/Stalker 7. Phantoms 8. Hateful Main bosses: 2018- 1. Baldur 2. Dragon(forgot its name) 3. Magni and Modi 4. Baldur again Ragnarok- 1. Bjorn 2. Thor 3. Gryla 4. Freya 5. Nidhogg 6. Garm 7. Heimdall 8. Hrist and Mist 9. Thor again 10. Odin Side bosses: 2018- 1. Valkyries Ragnarok- 1. Berserkers 2. Gna I left off the Dark Elf King from 2018 and the Light Elf Queen(and the librarian) from Ragnarok. I didn’t know if I should count them. They are presented as bosses but idk. I guess I should. But I won’t go back in the list so here are their mentions. I guess the dragons and drakes are technically side bosses since they only appear in side quests if I remember. I don’t recall a dragon showing up during the main story like how other mini bosses do. I left off the captains from Ragnarok. If I remember only one of them shows up and is presented as a boss. They just feel like a large enemy type like the ogres or travelers. Not bosses. I left off that little gremlin thing from Ragnarok that appears in Svartalfheim. I left off the revenant from 2018 that tricks Atreus into thinking he can speak to his mom again. I did the same for Ragnarok and the Raven keeper. Almost didn’t count the hateful but they warrant being a mini boss

Yes. I imagine there's plenty to be disappointed with in terms of story. I'm just disappointed in kratos' role in the plots of these games so it's for me to get into any other story aspects.

Thats right man. I explain some of those questions. Horn is coming soon btw

I interpreted prophecy being broken by Kratos' learning from the Fates that the future is written by our rigidity, and if you want to change what is coming you have to change yourself and Atreus rejecting the Mask and Odins obsession for knowledge that he doesn't need to know at any cost.

i feel you, the enemies you fight as atreus on gmgow are so unbelievably spongy and have infinite poise. it makes atreus combat not fun and boring overall as it results to r1 spam and the occasional parry for every enemy

you just suck at the game 😂

I died 5tines ore so on give me no mervy...way to easy

That’s because you played on the hardest difficulty. Harder doesn’t always make it a more enjoyable experience. In most games now a days harder difficulties means more annoying. It’s rarely ever truly balanced for harder difficulty. I know there are still as many fights on other difficulties I played on give me balance and that section was bearable. If you had played at a lower difficulty then you wouldn’t have had as much annoyance.

@@josephstalin5751 If it is a matter of difficulty then why was Kratos a lot more stronger and viable than Atreus? Seems like a matter of game design rather than difficulty

Agreed. The success and impact of Last of Us is definitely a gift & curse.

Gamers will never be happy. If they change it up like with GoW 2018/Ragnarok, they'll say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but when they don't innovate like in CoD, they'll say they're milking the formula smh lol.

​@@Axxxel_in_Harlem Gamers are diverse, just like movie fans, and movie fans are the most basic guaranteed money pumping to cater to

Space marine is cool. I played it a couple hours. But like a lot of games I just kinda see why people like it and lose interest. I don't have much to say.

@@underthemayo fair enough

if nost space marine i think he could critique Darksiders series as it is one of the underrated series with the same genre of GoW (though it has drastic changes between games)

because the more popular it is the more you dislike it, elitism

It's not a cutscene. It is one moment of a cutscene that was a clear joke. And you mention atreus being a cocky teen as a plot point... because?? You're saying "He's annoying because being annoying is part of the story that they wrote." So what? It still sucks.

​@@underthemayo - Cutscene or "part of a cutscene" you know what he meant quit being so childish - Atreus literally had a section in the first game where his ego inflated after learning he was a god and Ragnarok Atreus acknowledges those as "bad memories" showing that him acting that way wasn't good. -It's called character growth Mayo good God. Sadly knowing you, it's no surprise your subjective dislike of Atreus combined with you reductionist and often hollow criticism devalues it down to "He's annoying because being annoying is a part of the story" 'iT sTill SuCks" - It has absolutely nothing to do with you and over inflated and delusional sense of importance to the GOW franchise. The fact you even considered it says a lot about you -All things like this do is demonstrate just how much of a joke of a "critic" you are about 70% of the time

@@underthemayo Atreus in 2018 is annoying because of the contrast between his personality and Kratos' attitude. Atreus is a kind and very curious child, but he feels his father's teachings steers him towards a different path(which is not Kratos' intention, he's just doing his best to grow Atreus despite not knowing how to do that, besides the spartan way), one which he doesn't have a say. So, like any child, he tries to get his authority back by being what most kids are best at-being dicks. The scene shows how Atreus, now more conscious about basically everything, can see how really wrong and annoying his line of thought was(and not just a reference to your video, a view you have no proof of). About the god part, the intention was to see how power can corrupt a person(especially one that feels being belittled), but it was way too rushed to have an impact

Everything about this game was made for Mayo. Even the ones that were totally not made for him.

@@underthemayo are you being intentionally dense to skip over his very accurate statement of your over inflated ego? You say 'it's a clear joke' but the way you say it in the video, you definitely sound serious. Like you think you're so important game devs would bother programming cut scene moments as a pop at you. Its hilariously out of touch

Kratos won’t fuck you, calm down ogre

Actually they probably did watch his review considering they’ve commented on others.

Doubt it

@@l-shadow1775 They’ve commented on less reviewed vids. Also the “whatever” thing was a meme within the GoW community anyway.

Me and bros always laughed in Prince of Persia when we'd die and the main character would go "no no no no, that's not how it happened" always cracked us up for some reason. Its the small things man!

Yeah shut up no one cares

Cringy incel.

@@johnmiller2444 true, its not like is you saw a purple person for the first time in your life you would have any questions. Actual dumb fuck.

Agreed

@@mrman-yj3bn she's Brown. But I mean I guess it would make sense

She's from Detroit, it's not that uncommon there actually.

Synthetic man's review was great and touched on a lot of valid points.

@@Kometheus I agree that it had a lot of valid points, but I would call Synthetic Man's videos more like unscripted rants than proper reviews. I think he would agree with me on that.

@@Kometheusyou can’t be Fr 😂 it was such a horrible review with so many useless points. He also criticized the story while not even paying attention so he had no idea what was going on

@@devinbrady4433 first off, the story is pretty unimaginative and shit so him paying half attention is more than ok lol but yeah man synthetic mans reviews, while rambly a lot of the times, kick ass. Give them another go and forgo your pride blackman

@@C00MGUY how is anything I said prideful? And Blackman ? Maybe I’m missing something. I’ve watched it once and I just didn’t think he had any concrete critiques for the story. Also if you have the time I’d watch EFAPS video on synthetic man’s review

????? How is there no blood or gore? Almost all the kill animations in the game are kratos literally slicing dudes in half or decapitating them

@@homeb0ys7515 and yet do you see blood pooling up anywhere? This was a problem with 2018 too. Most of the "blood" is blue or orange. And the bits of real blood, arent a lot. The snow should be covered in red. Water should be running with blood. In 2018, it even cuts away when you cut off Mimir's head - something the old games would have never shied away from.

I guess they are trying to make GoW more marketable. They tone down the violence/gore to make it more "family friendly" yet keep the language full off cussing to appear edgy. Absolutely shallow.

@@zawarudo8991 it's extremely weird. Bayonetta 3, on a NINTENDO console, has gore. Bayonetta literally rips her own heart out in some scenes.

‘I would have done this differently’ is not a valid critique.

DMC3 is one of my favorite games ever. Spot on

it has rooms where the camera can be frustrating though, but most of the time yes

Wait a sec, I just realised Assassin's Creed games did that, too. Free, behind-your-back camera for roaming and a higher, wider camera for combat.

@@roadroad1695 What game doesn't?

It also had the low key feature of enemies in front of you attacking. Ones behind had a way lower rate.

Some people cant believe that reviews and awards could be rigged. :(

first it was used for the unwinnable heimdal fight, used again for the thor fight, and used again for the phase 1 odin fight. thor and odin should have had new stages and showed that they could destroy a realm with the power they wielded.