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Dylan and Cam discuss all the decks they tested for new set release videos to see which ones stood the test of time
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@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg Год назад
The top 4 commanders of this vid should be on an episode for gameplay.
@yaakovkagel1015
@yaakovkagel1015 Год назад
Yes!
@dylanbate2560
@dylanbate2560 Год назад
Came here to say this! What an awesome pod. Rocco (which is my main coincidentally) Kinnan Jenson / Lurrus And Rog / Thras Also want to say I feel like Rog Thras is very slept on atm, and can win games out of nowhere. I get their dislike of having to miss certain cards to make the deck, but you can also look at that as an opportunity streamline the efficiency.
@jcomposer12
@jcomposer12 Год назад
​@@dylanbate2560 I also main Rocco and I'm so happy that it's picked up so much appreciation.
@EdHGuru
@EdHGuru Год назад
5color lurrus is the deck I started playing cedh with after all the cedh content that piqued my interest in trying the format out it just seemed like the deck for me it has a bit of everything cedh offers with a very casual feel too
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg Год назад
@@dylanbate2560 i think the main issue is your missing black in a rog deck.
@milkgoblin4907
@milkgoblin4907 Год назад
I love the way you guys do the podcast raw. It’s so much more interesting and funny 😂
@ChildrenOfOwls
@ChildrenOfOwls Год назад
It’s not raw they’re wearing condoms while they podcast
@Rococo478
@Rococo478 Год назад
Don't play cEDH at all but simply can't resist Play to Win content!
@NewSchoolPOKERstrat
@NewSchoolPOKERstrat Год назад
It’s your heart telling you to play the one true format 😉
@jimmyburns411
@jimmyburns411 Год назад
1:25 - Play to Win: Messing things up in 2 minutes or less 😂 For real though, the podcasts are probably my favorite videos at this point. I love hearing your thought process on cEDH and having an hour's worth of content vs 15-25 minutes is golden. Keep it up!
@LuciGoertzen
@LuciGoertzen Год назад
To hell with people who are saying you're not prepared enough. I love your channel in part because you have (and no offense or assumptions made) MAD old married couple energy. The content is quality, and having produced a podcast of my own, you are VERY generous to the audience in terms of not selectively editing yourselves to make you come off as big brain geniuses. If you're listening to fan feedback, this fan says you're delivering 10/10 content. Love the insights, love the personalities.
@NT_Escanor
@NT_Escanor Год назад
I appreciate y’all’s willingness to analyze your previous card assessments
@colinstaub455
@colinstaub455 Год назад
I’ve fallen in love with this channel so much. Dylan, Cam, and Tyler are some of my favorite people to watch. I always look forward to Fridays and Sundays. Recently bought some PTW merch and fully intend to by more and support these guys.
@psyonicpanda
@psyonicpanda Год назад
"Sorry, were you about to say something?" "I stopped what I was saying because I really wanted to hear what you were going to say" Damn, what a friendship
@SqueezeBurger
@SqueezeBurger Год назад
Stay true to you, Cam. Never fix it in post.
@ozirus3344
@ozirus3344 Год назад
4 player no color identity episode sounds really interesting. Especially if we can get a podcast episode talking about the build process and if anyone actually changed their decks to fit their commander or just went turbo as naus
@RagingReaper
@RagingReaper Год назад
In regards to that "changing:" colors of decks for Rule 0 I've always thought adding Black or Red to Kinnan would almost break the deck entirely as being able to flip into Vilas, Razaketh or Dockside would just be insane.
@jamiebasarab7409
@jamiebasarab7409 Год назад
Love the Video, did forget to mention Codie. Wasn't on a set release video, so i guess that's why, but definitely better then the other Strixhaven commanders
@mehseenbetter
@mehseenbetter Год назад
People are comparing Thalia and the gitrog to tymna halana as hulk decks and usually end up with tymna can draw more cards which makes it automatically better. Personally I like knowing that there is always going to be stax piece in the CZ as well as card draw, sac outlet, and even mana advantage. Another advantage T&G gets is the ability to be a Mass Land Destruction deck. MLD alongside ouphe, null rod, stony silence and cards like drana and linvala let you destroy people's mana and get into a grinder game where T&G shines
@EdHGuru
@EdHGuru Год назад
Y’all are genuine as fuck don’t ever change y’all being raw is what I think makes you so relatable with your audience like I listen and I hear my friends and how dorky we sound discussing powerful cardboard.
@nickhurst4772
@nickhurst4772 Год назад
I need a First Chain Food Sliver on a shirt guys lmao
@veganwiener8047
@veganwiener8047 Год назад
Since seeing the Yargle and Multani deck, I'm wondering how good Hogaak would be at the head of a similar list. Lets you use Life's Legacy and Momentous Fall for a lot of cards still, while being a lot easier to get out of the graveyard. He also has the benefit of podding into Razaketh. I have a high power Hogaak list that runs a 3 card combo using Hogaak that can still pretty consistently win by turns 4-5 without any demonic/vampiric tutors in the list. I imagine a witherbloom apprentice/chain of smog version with more tutors could be pretty damn fast
@harmoniousrex
@harmoniousrex Год назад
Hinata can be an incredibly satisfying and budget friendly High Power deck where the value of your commander is that while out it turns your deck into a cedh deck (breach lines become trivial using Reality Spasm or Lotus Petal over LED, Dualcaster Combos cost 1-2 less to go off, Counterspells all cost U, etc.)
@JorgeAlibrandi
@JorgeAlibrandi 4 месяца назад
From what you played and mentioned 1 Kinnan 2 Atraxa 3 Jhenson 4 Tivit 5 Roco 6 Winota 7 Tymna Malcolm 8 Rog Thrasios 9 Krox & Kun 10 Florian
@GoldSabertooth
@GoldSabertooth Год назад
These are some of the best conversations about the format, appreciate yall! Keep it up.
@michaelatbarnett
@michaelatbarnett Год назад
Got to listen to this and the last podcast back to back while driving around a bit today, loved all of the content: thank you! There's a card that got leaked yesterday from Aftermath that I won't say anything about other than it being Jeskai - going to be curious to hear if you all think there's any viability for that one later on!
@mordamen
@mordamen Год назад
I hear Jeskai and I'm absolutely intrigued! Now I gotta go and find it! xD
@Rh3ttD4v1s
@Rh3ttD4v1s Год назад
Your Brallin and shabraz deck tech brought me to the channel! It would be cool if y’all did more those.
@Dafins100
@Dafins100 Год назад
Its awesome that you guys were high on Atraxa and she just got 1st in a big tournament. Validation!
@gloglok3356
@gloglok3356 Год назад
Oooh nice, I missed that one, which tournament are you talking about?
@dylanh8163
@dylanh8163 Год назад
Thank you for mentioning Dina Exquisite Blood, which is my eventual Golgari upgrade to my Vito deck.
@kristopherwatts9466
@kristopherwatts9466 Год назад
To add onto the about the possible 'Rule 0' game, the folks over at Commander Vs have done alot of 'add a colour' games. If it was done with the 4 colour partner pairs, or 4 colour legendaries it would be a little derivative, but it could make for some interesting experimentation with some of the commanders that have a strategy that don't really fit within their colours
@zachhedin2281
@zachhedin2281 Год назад
I know it hasn't been played, but I feel Slicer could make an appearance on this list. He's fast. Like real fast. He makes fast Commanders look not fast. 🤣 Love the content guys! Keep it up
@jareddease1082
@jareddease1082 Год назад
Best dynamic!! Great video and thanks for uploading :)
@syngentsteele5293
@syngentsteele5293 Год назад
Thank you for mentioning swift reconfiguration! I didn't know what my Sisay legendary stax list was until you showed it 😂
@sourcoast533
@sourcoast533 Год назад
Hey Play to Win! Just wanted to say you guys are awesome. Love your content. I’ve only been playing magic since the start of the pandemic, and your content makes me enjoy the game more. Keep it up!
@lisaparker271
@lisaparker271 Год назад
Thanks for your awesome vid, I cant wait until the next one!
@AmateurHourMTG
@AmateurHourMTG Год назад
Love the content guys! Always very informative.
@Macdaddy690
@Macdaddy690 Год назад
I’m gonna need that Atraxa decklist as soon as your done!
@darbymckilkannoncaid3279
@darbymckilkannoncaid3279 Год назад
the podcast is fantastic, I love your energy, and I love that you guys tackle original topics
@zackarytheriault2584
@zackarytheriault2584 Год назад
For the 5 colour episode : Rograkh Ragavan Yisan Godo That'd be a super cool video
@yaakovkagel1015
@yaakovkagel1015 Год назад
Guys, I am loving these podcast topics and formats lately!!!!! ❤❤
@rinan5317
@rinan5317 Год назад
I never knew until I watched this video that I watched almost all of you guys' videos and they're really good. Podcast suggestion, discuss playstyle of individuals. I'd love to hear how Tyler strategizes his ways to victory.
@thattransstoner_4205
@thattransstoner_4205 Год назад
My omnath list plays food chain, breach, and a dockside loop. I really like the list but I do appreciate y’all’s analysis of the deck
@mychaelperez8921
@mychaelperez8921 Год назад
I won with Tovolar, The Dire Overload by turn 4-6 six, but, the quickest I won with it was turn with infinite combats. Specifically, Sword Feast and Famine and Aggravated Assault.
@joshbarr810
@joshbarr810 Год назад
Captain Sisay would be THE selesnya deck as it is yasharn as well as every other green white legend, including cradle. Great video.
@Facter-di3cm
@Facter-di3cm 3 месяца назад
I listen to this whole driving and loved the part where you read the cards that no one has ever heard of 🤣
@amishwarlord0841
@amishwarlord0841 Год назад
Gruul is definitely on the lower end of the power spectrum, but I've recently been playing Minsc and Boo, Timeless Heroes and the deck absolutely has legs. I'd love to see it on the channel. Previously I was playing Ruric Thar stax, but the increase of reliance on creatures has definitely hindered that decks effectiveness.
@toctheyounger
@toctheyounger Год назад
Man we missed Dihada in Dominaria? That deck is a true monster. Layered combos and it's fast. Also I'd like to see Dylan back up his claim do a tier list for the local hot dogs in your area.
@egoish6762
@egoish6762 Год назад
Loving the regular friday podcast while i do my end of week admin, cheers guys
@itzmagictime8824
@itzmagictime8824 5 месяцев назад
I've come from the podcast on Spotify, and just wanted to day how the Tymna/Sakashima decl drew me into cEDH. I did exactly as you guys suggested w I uld happen to Tymna/Sakashima players- Switch from Stax to Midrange with Ad Naus, then realized Malcolm was better and swapped that too 😅😅
@AIMLESS-NAMELESS
@AIMLESS-NAMELESS Год назад
25:48 did they just invent highlander lol this exists I don’t remember the name
@janmelantu7490
@janmelantu7490 Год назад
Most highlanders don’t have a commander, but yeah. I’d love to see these guys play Canadian, 7-point (Australian), or European (German) Highlander.
@SqueezeBurger
@SqueezeBurger Год назад
"The First Chain Food Sliver" may be worthy of dedicated new art as a token
@eatingbaconbits
@eatingbaconbits Год назад
Great vid! Any thoughts on Dihada? Im thinking of building it but I’m not sure how viable
@njbroug10635
@njbroug10635 7 месяцев назад
It's only been a few months, but I'd love to see them revisit this revisit. Revisception.
@Armadathon
@Armadathon Год назад
Ok I have a suggestion for the 5c rules bend thing: Companions, but they don't NEED to be within the color-identity of the commander, instead they ADD to the color identity. So Ragavan + Jegantha = 5C deck. Sakashima and Krark + Gyruda = Grixis. Obviously the decks themselves need to fit within the companion's built in constraints, though if we're being this rules lax I'd probably allow an XL deck with Yorion, :P
@RodrigoCML7
@RodrigoCML7 Год назад
The play to win podcasts bring so much, but my favorite part is that they don’t cut the segments like Evelyn vs Dylan 😂 also, knowing that Cam doesn’t use his power to look cooler on the podcast makes him look really cool
@MareczqZglos
@MareczqZglos Год назад
Rocco i think will be just better and better. Every good creature for cEDH they print in its collor ... he can play it every game... this is OP :)
@nicolasangarita7259
@nicolasangarita7259 Год назад
Hey guys love your show, where can i find the data base for CEDH decks that you talk about?
@PlaytoWinMTG
@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад
Google it! CEDH decklist database
@abrahamdrinkin2534
@abrahamdrinkin2534 Год назад
Talking about rule 0 for colors for commanders, Elsha in Grixis would be a banger
@SDTCG
@SDTCG Год назад
Just built a food chain Thrasios and Rograkh deck (I call it Thrakh) and I freaking love it so far. It probably needs work, but I think it's pretty solid and I enjoy it a lot.
@autopsipath
@autopsipath Год назад
Hey guys loving that my comment got called out, im a sub but not a patreon, i try to at least like and comment hoping it helps you guys somehow, thanks for noticing ill make sure to keep em coming. 30% of Cam's speech in this video was just repeating what dylan said.
@kamilwhaley-kalaora4839
@kamilwhaley-kalaora4839 Год назад
If you guys do an episode of changing colour identities I think kinnan as a sultai or sans white deck could absolutely crush. Being able to use the extra mana from kinnan+red and black rituals to go super speedy ad naus turbo and winning with thassas consult would make the deck insane (not to mention all the great big beefy black and red creatures. I’m thinking flipping sire of insanity with seed born muse on the field would be pretty juicy 🤭)
@frankdetank9126
@frankdetank9126 Год назад
Thanks for the video! Have you ever considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?
@Jonaltram
@Jonaltram Год назад
5-color niv-mizzet, parun would be my pick. Add keen sense and lots of tutors.
@motekar5791
@motekar5791 Год назад
What are you saying at 41:02 What deck and commander is that?
@manhattanblockade8544
@manhattanblockade8544 Год назад
Dylan rank top 5 African Dung Beetles
@RyanDibley
@RyanDibley Год назад
Which one color commander would make the best 5 color deck in commander for the ragavan idea
@damo9961
@damo9961 Год назад
You guys should have done a Warhammer video. Those commanders are awesome. Abaddon, Marneus, Ghyrson Starn, Lucea Kane. No love for Minsc and Boo, timeless heroes? Fun deck.
@burglaradam6946
@burglaradam6946 Год назад
I spend more time than I should on the toilet because of your content. Thanks I guess.
@BisyBackson365
@BisyBackson365 Год назад
Rule 0 > 5c: Ragavan , Naya: Kinnan , Grixis: Yuriko , RUBG : Atraxa, Grand Unifer
@Its-Lulu
@Its-Lulu Год назад
Pour one out for my chatterfang deck which isn't good enough to be cEDH viable but too strong for high powered play 🤧 Always a pleasure to tune into the podcast, especially on a day off where I'm catching up on some laundry 😎
@foddersfollies7494
@foddersfollies7494 Год назад
Rule Zero, all legal commanders have partner.
@timtauber5557
@timtauber5557 Год назад
Great evaluations guys
@HJonesT
@HJonesT 10 месяцев назад
I played Food Chain Slivers in my first CEDH tournament and when I named Food Chain it was 6th from the bottom of the deck. We all laughed at me losing that one.
@funsponge9099
@funsponge9099 Год назад
with the 5 color ragavan deck idea, for a video you could just rule 0 watever 2 commanders you want to play have partner, itd be broken as hell but still might be fun
@Manifibell
@Manifibell Год назад
I kinda like this improv podcast style you have going here. Say the shit that's on your mind is way more interesting than a prepared script. Not saying that you can't have a red line, but I think Cam does a good job of knowing what he/you want out of the pod
@CKarasu13
@CKarasu13 Год назад
Sad you didn't do jumpstart 22, but I can understand why. There were only a couple commanders decent enough to consider. I ended up making Preston Stax and it's worked out for me. It and Slicer are my only cEDH decks though.
@ihaveacoolmask8894
@ihaveacoolmask8894 Год назад
I wish you guys would have went over kaldeheim really wanna see you guys talk about tergrid
@Cr0de5_
@Cr0de5_ Год назад
I feel like with Ragavan as a commander you have to view his ability more like a stax/card denial ability and less like card advantage. Great episode all the same
@andythomas6236
@andythomas6236 Год назад
I wanna see that 5 color Ragavan deck
@lknpk15
@lknpk15 Год назад
I think people are sleeping on Mishra CBG (aka the meld Mishra). I run a heavy aggro deck that makes a bunch of hasty tokens that run the Aggravated Assault and Kiki-Jiki/Combat Celebrant wincons and have drained the board for 9-12 life per attack come Turn 3 or 4...and this is all before blocks can be declared
@shjerven
@shjerven Год назад
What’s your guy’s opinion on a zimone and Dina deck. Field of dead. Sacrifice on a creature and get card draw and land advantage
@oscarperezcame
@oscarperezcame Год назад
awesome podcast.. love these top 10 you're doing... you should have Tyler on this top 10 so you can have a third options to break split decisions hahaha
@simontorell1549
@simontorell1549 Год назад
You guys should totaly do a gameplay video with your top 4!
@yaakovkagel1015
@yaakovkagel1015 Год назад
Would love to see an Atraxa deck from Dylan
@mateodejesus5426
@mateodejesus5426 Год назад
I wish this show was around since commander was made so i could indulge in a ten hour list of every cedh commander
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus Год назад
Yay! They brought up the cat Abdel.
@yaakovkagel1015
@yaakovkagel1015 Год назад
It would super cool if you guys did a game where you played Non-Legendary creatures as your commanders! Dockside Commander deck anyone?
@mitchelfulcer2874
@mitchelfulcer2874 Год назад
Hahahaha I love that yall had to call out the smothering tithe guy 😂😂 great content as always boys! P.s. I was 100 % inspired by Dylan to build Bralin /Shabraz, and do just fine in my local meta with it, so just wanna say thanks dawg!
@kavfulmer
@kavfulmer Год назад
Love you guys but Raffine is SO much better than it was described here. IMO much more strong and consistent than Heliod, YASHARN (BIG ?), Toxrill, Florian, and (likely) the new Kroxa/Dog list. Esper colors mixed with card selection alone make me like it way more than these fringe-y decks. The only problem is, similar to two Tymnas, there is no consensus on the best list. I just think a serious grinder needs to 1) make a decision on the list and 2) play the deck in a tournament setting and show people the strength of Raffine. We need results lol
@dalevering
@dalevering Год назад
For saying you'd like to play Recurring Nightmare, I'm surprised Slimefoot and Squee didn't get any love.
@sambrown9475
@sambrown9475 Год назад
For the last couple of years, I really thought that Sea and Khawaja A Hameed was one long name 😂
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 Год назад
I wouldn't say 5C Ragavan but maybe where everyone can add 1 color of their choice to a commander game would be fun!
@AirBEARist
@AirBEARist Год назад
I have been very successful with first sliver food chain
@jacob510
@jacob510 Год назад
As a GW stax player I've had SOOOO much better results with Dhalsim at the helm and Yasharn in the 99
@ingolf82
@ingolf82 Год назад
so.. PWP just tested out Curious control, to see if it still holds up in today's cEDH meta... it was interesting to watch the old "best deck in cEDH" in acton.
@izzydonuts4217
@izzydonuts4217 Год назад
5 color ragavan sounds like a siiiick show
@TNDNBTG
@TNDNBTG Год назад
It's me, I'm the golgari player. "You guys should be more prepared." XD
@ianross9475
@ianross9475 Год назад
There are too many quotes to list in this episode that had me dying...among my favorites are: "You want esper sentinel in the command zone? You got it!" "It's about the journey" " [At that point] Why aren't you playing Tymna? You can partner. You can play 4 colors with that b***"."
@andrewpalella9923
@andrewpalella9923 Год назад
Format idea for rule 0: everyone picks a commander and gets to add one color to its color identity
@gillgaladii8673
@gillgaladii8673 Год назад
Where would Tivit rank?
@AndrewLawton16
@AndrewLawton16 Год назад
Coming back and watching this episode again. For sure, please make a rule 0 fucking around cEDH episode. I'd love to see gloves off, 5c Ragavan in action
@TheHunter128
@TheHunter128 Год назад
If they banned partner what decks would replace the combos?
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Год назад
Ukkima is the best food chain commander, by far. Atraxa has been top 16 consistently because of Displacer
@daniellewis85
@daniellewis85 Год назад
I used to play Ukkima/Cazur. Every single time I cast consultation, food chain was in the top 6 and I ended up losing. No joke... Every. Single. Time.
@iPhoneeditor
@iPhoneeditor Год назад
So we're definitely getting a throw down between the top 4 right? 👀
@muscleNflow
@muscleNflow Год назад
Sorry I may be late to the party on this vid, but Grist definitely deserves the mention as the best MH2 commander. I'd argue it is much better than Dina for a Hulk plan. You can go a little more midrange since you also get decent spot removal in addition to the sac outlet.
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