I have been watching NHL games since 1975. I have watched thousands and thousands of games. I have never seen anyone like Mcdavid. Gretzky is the man, the GOAT (right now) but McDavid may end up being right up there, he is the most skilled player I have ever seen. No one is close.
I’ve been watching since 06 & I must say, Mcdavid brings an element to the game that no other player brings. They talk about his speed, but his agility is out of this world. He has very high Iq even when in his rookie year. I’m can see him getting 5 rings.
@@cashvolpe4775 why not? On paper that team is literally The Most stacked team in the nhl. It’s literally an all star team, I can see them doing what Stl did in 2019 & winning it all. That’ll give ‘em more confidence to do a back to back cup run
@@cashvolpe4775cups are irrelevant when talking about how good a player is. Pat Maroon has more cups than some hall of famers, are you saying fat pat is that good? Get fkn real. Harts and Ted Lindsays speak more to how talented someone is.
Only watching hockey since early 90s. When I watched Jagr, Sakic, Bure, Foresberg, Datsyuk, I was so impressed at their ability to score pts. McDavid is the only player I've seen when they have a 2 pt night, i think its a bad night. He's so good it feels like he should have 5-7 pts a night. When he only achieves what other greats accomplish, I'm disappointed. I'm spoiled.
Edmontonian here. As an avid hockey watcher, I love seeing McDavid get these goals. It’s just so crazy to see that we’ve had some of the best hockey players ever, and seeing some of McDavids shots just blow my mind.
Like a lot of old heads I've watched hockey for a long time and I've never seen a player like him. He's able to think as fast as he can move his body and we've never witnessed it
I recently have been reading a book called The McDavid effect and every time I open and close the book I am always left inspired and I don´t even watch hockey!
McDavid won his 5 Art Ross by an average of 14 points each. Jagr won his 5 by an average of 7 points. Espo won his 5 by an average of 19 points. Howe won his 6 by an average of 14 points. Mario won his 6 by an average of 16 points. Wayne won his 10 Art Ross trophies by an average of 52 points. I think it's obvious.
only two years in his career have less the 100 points. 1 was his rookie year. 2 was the year the world stood still because of covid. and in both cases had he been able to play the entire season on both cases i don't think he would have a single season under 100 points.
He was only on pace to score 87 points in his rookie season if he played a full 82 game schedule so it's very unlikely. He played 45 games at 1.066 ppg. He would have needed to play the remaining 37 games at 1.405 ppg which he obviously didn't have in him that season going by the games he did play.
@dannycarlow8204 there is no way to know he wouldnt have picked up the pace he came back from an injury of course his points werent going to be up there.
@@MrCanadianhero I said it was very unlikely and no, there is no way to know but there is no evidence to think it may have happened. All we know is that before he was injured he played 13 games at .923 ppg and played 32 games after his injury at 1.125 ppg. As I said, he needed to play the other 37 games at 1.405 ppg. His best six game stretch of the season was his first six games back from injury where he scored 12 points, then he scored 5 points in the next 8 games. He scored 3 points in the last 4 games before injury, and he scored 3 points in his last 4 games of the season. All I'm saying is there is no evidence that says we would have scored 100 points so it is very unlikely to have happened. I'm just going by the reality of what actually happened.
yeah yeah. he doesnt have the points, goals or assists, or even silverware of the greats but the way he plays the game and sees the ice is second to none
He's definetely changed the way the game is played, thats for sure. Excited to if he will get a cup with the oilers or leave to another franchise when he becomes an unrestricted free agent in the 2026 season
He’s good enough to be the best player on the planet.wont really know how good he is till his career is over ,but at this stage he’s the best player in the world👍🏻
@@TheHockeyVault the way the oilers brought in Jackson May keep him in Oiler silks for another 5-7 years. If they can win the cup this year or next he definitely won’t be going anywhere..
He's great and special and rare and ahead of his time. But 66 wouldn't get denied of an Art Ross trophy against players like Kucherov or MacKinnon in his prime. Nothing against those guys though, they're amazing. 66 and 68 had stats like 97 at the height of the dead puck era, just for comparison's sake. And no that wasn't when dinosaurs roamed the earth
McDavid is the Goat no doubt. The game itself is so much harder and tougher these days compared to Gretzky era so there' s not even a competition. Gretzky was the goat of a different sport.
Hard to compare different eras. I think you can say he has the potential to be the goat of the modern era but ill let gretzky maintain hes goat status. Although, if you stuck Mcdavid back in the 90's, oh my.
I think you have things reversed. The game today is so much easier for the top players. The rules help them so much now. Even though the game is faster now, it would actually be easier for Wayne and Mario today than when they played because they would also be faster than they were plus have the advantages of the different rules. No matter if they scored more, less or equal, the game would be easier for them today. They played in the roughest era. Today it's just pussy hockey compared to back then.
McDavid's incredible speed, puck-handling, passing, and scoring skills were ALL put on display throughout the playoffs & grabbed the world by storm!!!!! Connor was taken out of Game 7, but otherwise, he was beyond fantastic!!!!!
@@matthewahoffman Apparently it wasn't good enough. He didn't even deserve the Smythe, it was just his consolation prize from Bettman for not winning anything else this year. I guarantee if he had won the Hart, he wouldn't have won the Smythe. He was kind of taken out in games 1, 6 and 7 and game 7 against the Canucks. You know, the most important games for a star to show up.
According to my research: best of all time. He only plays 22 min a game. Lemieux 1989 season played above 30 min/game. Same for Gretzky during the 80's.
Hard to compare different eras. Don't think he will touch goat status until he wins a cup though. It will be interesting to see if he stays with the Oilers when he becomes an unrestricted free agenet
@@TheHockeyVault Thing is I just looked at scoring rate adjusted for ice time and era. Also you could adjust if for cap hit aswell. Just imagine McDavid having a coffee type player like Eric Karlsson on D.
@@JOK3RC4RDx Because of the insane speed nowadays with no red line off side. Players just take explosive short shifts. Back in the 80's 2 min was common because of the slow tempo of the game. Also in the middle of the 80's the trend towards shorter shift started to occur with the "short shift game" 1 minute shifts and less began to trend around the league. Go further back than that and they didnt even have 4 lines. 3 were the standard. Everything nowadays is speed and it is the fastest the game has ever been and McDavid represents the new game perfectly. NHL is not what it used to be. Nobody not even Gretzky or Lemieux can come from the 80's and expect to have 30 minutes per game.
Gretzky is the man of the 19th century, McDavid that of the 20th. Skill wise at least. I know a lot of people would argue for Crosby because of his hardware. I think if McDavid gets a cup he will be on top.
Honestly, with his combination of absolute peak, elite skill, talent, and hockey IQ, it's not so crazy to say he just might be the best we've ever seen on the ice. I know it's brought up a ton, but the overall talent of the League now is lightyears ahead of where it was decades ago, not to mention just how much better goalies are in general. I think the argument could be made that you could put Mcdavid literally any era of hockey and he would still completely dominate in the same way, while I'm not sure the same can be said for other legends of the game.
He ain’t that good buddy overrated ngl… ppl acting like he’s a god, never gonna break any big records. Even franchise records might not be broken but I don’t think he’s gonna stay with oilers
Ive been in Edmonton my whole life and theres nothing like him in any sport. When youre watching the entire ice in person and live, he buzzes around like a bee. Fast doesnt so it justice.
hes great for todays game, no hooking, slashing, cross checking. no clutching and grabbing etc. 7-8 power plays per game. if Lemieux played in todays game he would score 250 pts a year. Yzerman and Sackic would get 175-180.
The average power plays per team were 3.02 per game this season. If Mario only had 3 power plays per game for a whole season, I have no doubt he would he would quit hockey forever. How's he going to score? He never played a season in his career where the Pens had less than 4 power plays per game. I'm not sure he could score 120 points in a season like that. When McDavid scored 153 points, the Oilers had 275 power plays. When Wayne scored 215, the Oilers had 295 power plays. When Mario scored 199, the Pens had 491 power plays.
@@dannycarlow8204 lol McDavid is a pond hockey player, like matthews and marner and zegras and hughes, all pond hockey players. and their playoff success is evident of that. nhl regular season is a joke
He McChoked in Game 6 n 7 in finals, I mean he’s half done his career with no cups and nowhere near Gretzky records, If he beats 10 scoring titles and 9 MVPs with 1016-2223-3239 in nhl regular season and playoffs combined then we can talk. Gretzky scored more ASSISTS than ANYONE has Scored POINTS and did it when you had to dodge/take a hit unlike BETTMANs No Hit/Fight watered down 32 team league era.
@@michaelcerulli6367 well it’s even easier now because equipment is better and Hits/Fights are at an All Time Low. Plus 32 teams makes it watered down, Yer lucky to have 2 HOFamers on a Competitive Team in Playoffs nowadays unlike the 1950s-1990s where you could have anywhere from 5-11 HOFamers on a single team, your right Gretzky scored against shitty goalies (ROY, SMITH, VERNON, BARRASSO, HASEK, BRODEUR etc etc those guys suck so bad they ALL made it into HOF lol
McDavid is also a very gritty player and a great hitter. He doesnt usually do it but only because he chooses not to. When he does hit you can tell it hurts. Hes emotional and confrontational in scrums
The man can't catch a break, can he. He put up playoff numbers we haven't seen since the 80's and early 90s by Gretzky and Lemieux. Mounts the biggest comeback in the finals since 1945(79 years), breaks the assists record. Only to lose 2-1 in game 7. Don't give me that regular season hero bullshit either. He has a higher points per game in the playoffs. Lemieux has 1.61 points per game in his career playoffs, McDavid has 1.58. He is not that far off. He is not Gretzky, because Gretzky was out of this world talent that may never be seen again.
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i know that McDavid has a much smaller chance of winning the cup while playing on a Canadian Hockey team. (you cant tell me in 30 years no Canadian team could win the cup even once) but why does that mean we should still get some of the best players on the planet?
Do you think McDavid is leaving the Oilers once he's an unrestricted free agent in 2026? I would imagine money will be the ultimate deciding factor, but I can see him ending up in the states
@TheHockeyVault i think it will depend how these next to seasons go. But i also think he has built a life here and won't just want to move it. But only time will tell. (Seeing him in anything but oiler orange and blue would be weird)
Lol. Canadian fans always deflect to some “it’s rigged against Canada!” nonsense despite the fact that single teams have been created and won 3 cups between now and the most recent Canadian victory. That’s not rigging, that’s Canadian teams just being… idk, not champions.
Can't agree with you there. Led playoffs in scoring when they didn't even make the finals. He and Draisaitl dominate in the playoffs prior to this year, just didn't have any support or goaltending. My opinion.
He is a gifted player yes but to have him stand with Wayne Gretzky that be a no not even close. As i said he is next to Sid the kid for sure but do not put him and Wayne Gretzky on the same level.
McDavid is better at scoring goals and assists than Gretzkey. If you could get him back into the 80's McDavid would blow out anybody. He is such a good team player, his assists are going to grow to crazy amounts next season.
Silly comment. All players are more skilled and fitter as times goes on. Pretty much any half decent player would dominate in the 80s. Doesn’t make them ‘better’. You have to compare players in the era they were in. Not the players fault in the 80s that training, coaching, tech, etc. wasn’t as advanced as today. He’s a great no doubt. As good as Gretzky? Wait till his career is over.
Connor Bed-who? Ah yes, McDavid. Today, as I write this, Edmonton is 2 days and 1 game from the Cup(and him form the Conn Smythe), with McDavid beating Gretzky passing record from 1988 in playoff, and the most historical come back in NHL history.
@@gregd6706 Easy friend, the NHL is scripted(as all major sports-just like wrestling), the Cup awarded to who they want, as matter of fact, a good 1/3 of the people in the stand are Canadian, cheering for Oilers in Florida for this serie and game. So that compared to the fury in Edmonton who will see the stand filled night after night, no matter what happens. They sent the cup in Florida, again, to sustain their market there, now the seat will sell for the next 2 years. Hats, t-shirts, heck, TV ads where 100% ready minutes after the Panthers got it... SCRIPTED I say. Games 4-5-6 and for the money, baby!!!! All for the money honey.... Let's not even get into sports bet, as Oilers where big favourite for this game 7, I Bet(man), lots of people made lots of money on the Panthers.
I think McDavid will go down as the greatest hockey player of all time. There is no one doing what he is doing imo. Hopefully he can get a cup, otherwise well, there may not be an argument for that ahaha
@@vinceschryver5676 Been a fan forever growing up ahaha. If you could provide constructive criticism, I would be happy to take it to apply to future videos! All the best :)
McDavid is not a winner yet. Many greats had to learn to sacrifice offense to win. Last game goalie out the opposition turned it over deep. 4 Oilers were quickly leaving the zone for the empty net. They then turned the puck over. Time to play it safe and learn a style that wins in April. 97 and 29 cannot win playing 25 mins a night.
Tell me you don’t comprehend advance stats without telling me you don’t comprehend advanced stats lol…the puck stays out of the net more when McDavid is on the ice and it’s a result of HIM, full stop. He’s the best player in the NHL today period, no need for the backhanded comment because you’re a leaf fan and he’s not playing for your team.
It’s a team game, you can’t win the cup alone. His skills and numbers speak for themselves. Who the hell have you seen doing the shit he’s been doing 😅
Gretzky and Lemieux were infinitely superior. Hockey isn't just about skills, otherwise Alex Kovalev would have been a God. Young people don't understand the concept of hockey IQ, the sense of anticipation and the overall vision of the game. The gap between Gretzky and his peers was infinitely greater than that of McDavid with his contemporaries.
Yeah current market is way tougher to get into and be at top of the pack. I've watched Mario, Gretzky and mcdavid and those round out top 3..but I'm not crazy enough to think you can actually compare them when it's impossible. All we can agree on is Mario's career was cut short.
@@dana102083 More difficult today? Imagine for a moment Gretzky with modern training methods and equipment. In hockey without hooking, without red lines and in 3 vs 3 overtime. Insane!
@@maitrehg its easier to read the game when its slow. Gretzky and Lemieux also had much more time on the ice because the game was not as intense as today. How can you even compare hockey IQ of entire different sports?
*Infinitely superior? 🙄 The irony of telling ppl they don't understand hockey IQ while saying McDavid doesn't have it...Have you ever even seen him play? He's 2 steps ahead of everyone on the ice
99.99% of people who actually know hockey would disagree with you including most of the current players in the NHL who for some reason keep voting him as the best in the game.
