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How GOOD was Cloyster ACTUALLY? - History of Cloyster in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6) 

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CLOYSTER! The bivalve Pokemon! Cloyster appears to be indestructible but can it really withstand bombs like its Pokedex entry says? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Cloyster in competitive Pokemon.
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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@FalseSwipeGaming
@FalseSwipeGaming 6 лет назад
12:10 I forgot to put in the silhouette lol but Houndoom is next since it had the most votes from last weeks video.
@drakenstarcross1347
@drakenstarcross1347 6 лет назад
False Swipe Gaming I do feel like we did this vid already....
@kingofstuff8148
@kingofstuff8148 6 лет назад
after that do the trio of suicune raiou and suicune
@jthisidiot2917
@jthisidiot2917 6 лет назад
False Swipe Gaming ok we got a hound nextt
@jthisidiot2917
@jthisidiot2917 6 лет назад
King of Stuff did you mean suicune raikou and entei?
@danielolivierpepin
@danielolivierpepin 6 лет назад
Drakenstar78 Legend nope
@Yeshua_Kristos
@Yeshua_Kristos 6 лет назад
So...if Cloyster is just a Gastly acting as a bivalve, does this make Cloyster a...Ghost in the Shell? I'll see myself out
@lorenzohayes8489
@lorenzohayes8489 5 лет назад
😂😂 this needs way more likes
@alexandradordzhieva3835
@alexandradordzhieva3835 5 лет назад
I don't get it.
@ChasingLions_
@ChasingLions_ 5 лет назад
Ian Yeshua Velunta 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😂
@pugboiremnant7352
@pugboiremnant7352 5 лет назад
@@alexandradordzhieva3835 Ghost in the Shell is an anime
@alexandradordzhieva3835
@alexandradordzhieva3835 5 лет назад
@@pugboiremnant7352 oh what's it about?
@Espeon804
@Espeon804 4 года назад
Cloyster: *Uses icicle sphere* Dragapult: Guess I'll die.
@az-rd3he
@az-rd3he 4 года назад
hello again
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 3 года назад
do you mean ice ball (sphere)
@rafy.h.3108
@rafy.h.3108 3 года назад
@@r3io4mf no. Icicle spear
@rafy.h.3108
@rafy.h.3108 3 года назад
@@r3io4mf SPEAR. THE LONG STICK WITH A BLADE AT THE ENDD
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 3 года назад
@@rafy.h.3108 it was a joke bro
@KEVINF0X
@KEVINF0X 6 лет назад
Everytime a not fully outclassed gen 1 Pokemon (without megas) is presented here it makes me happy :)
@cjer6040
@cjer6040 6 лет назад
I just like it whenever there's any Pokemon that's able to kick all of the butt even without megas XD
@gamermanzeake
@gamermanzeake 5 лет назад
To be perfectly Frank, this is competitive Pokemon battling. Obviously not every Pokemon will be viable. Especially ones coming out of the very first generation of Pokemon. So, it's kind of silly to be disturbed by the fact that most gen 1 Pokemon fall short. Power creep is a stupid term. There's so many Pokemon in the later generations that don't have very much higher stats than the average gen 1 Pokemon. Heck, there are some gen 3 Pokemon with higher stat totals than many legendary. All Pokemon are usable, perhaps not in competitive play, but usable nonetheless. I've even watched people beat games with Magikarp. I am a huge fan of cloyster. However, most of Gen 1 deserve the bench.
@EnriiqueMurguia
@EnriiqueMurguia 5 лет назад
@@gamermanzeake Galar!!
@pksprite6401
@pksprite6401 3 года назад
@@gamermanzeake you missed the point of his comment 😂
@jotarokujo3603
@jotarokujo3603 2 года назад
@@gamermanzeake I don't think anyone here was disturbed by gen 1 mons dropping off, it's just nice to see one that was designed well enough to remain relevant. Also power creep isn't a stupid term, it's very accurate. Yes not every Pokémon got stronger but the upper heights of power did increase with each generation, which is exactly what power creep refers to.
@FreetStighter
@FreetStighter 6 лет назад
Holy crap, I didn't expect Cloyster to be THAT good!
@rodrigob.3590
@rodrigob.3590 6 лет назад
FreetStighter Right! I've never been much of a competitive player myself, so I always assumed that the "best" pokemon were the fan-favorites like Garchomp or Mewtwo. Knowing that a not-as-popular pokemon such as Cloyster is actually pretty good is awesome!
@XEmiyaArcherX
@XEmiyaArcherX 6 лет назад
yeah lots of fan favorite pokemon sucks in competetive (Charizard before megas, piakachu etc although some like garchomp and emwtwo deserve their fame) while some ignored pokemon are insanely powerfull.
@cjer6040
@cjer6040 6 лет назад
Well Garchomp and Mewtwo are quite powerful, I don't use any Legendaries, or Megas, so I don't know much on Mewtwo's strength, but I do run Garchomp and it kicks butt. But there are also Pokemon that people won't even think of running that are extremely powerful. Take my Furfrou set for example: Nobody even remembers Furfrou or they think that it's trash, but I, despite me being a cat person, would say that it's my second favorite Pokemon (after Garchomp because it's had a lot of clutch). My set is a Jolly Furfrou with Fur Coat, which is Furfrou's only ability that doubles it Defense stat. Furfrou has a base 60 def, which is poop, but with Fur Coat, it's essentially 120 (idk if that's how stat calculations work lol). Idk what my Furfrou's def IV is because I'm not SUPER competitive either, but for the sake of calculations, lets say that it's 31. At level 100 with 255 def EVs, Furfrou has 219 def x2 because Fur Coat, so it's 438. Then Furfrou has access to Cotton Guard, which raises the Def stat by +3 (x2.5), so in just two turns it has x4 Def. that makes it a whopping 1752 Def. Then it ALSO has Charm, so that it can stall out Swords Dance and lower the opponent to x0.25 attack in just 3 turns. so after just 5 turns, it's already only taking 1/32 of the damage that it'd normally be taking from physical attackers. Add in a Rocky Helmet, which damages the opposing Pokemon if they use a contact move (which is most physical attacks) and they take more damage attacking than they deal. Now you're thinking "That's excellent! But wouldn't it still eventually take enough damage to faint and wouldn't Toxic still destroy it?" and the answer is yes. Unless you run Rest. Rest solves all your problems! Granted, you're a sitting duck while you're asleep, but that won't even matter because they're taking damage from their own attacks while you only lose like 10 HP max. In the last moveslot is Facade, because if they do try to kill Furfrou with Toxic, it's fun to punish them and then sleep! "CJ!" you must be asking, "But what's stopping them from just switching to a special attacker and setting up on you while you're asleep??" Nothing. But you'd be really surprised about just how stupid people are and they just don't switch out and also it's good in 1v1s Here's my Furfrou murdering a sharp af boi: replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen71v1suspecttest-643535568
@orbusg8451
@orbusg8451 6 лет назад
Yeah I never did competitive and I just thought it had high defense and that's it. To be so good that it can even sweep in ubers? And it's not even a legendary? Whew, wasn't expecting that.
@r.r815
@r.r815 6 лет назад
CJdadestoyr one word, Haze
@2supermaro
@2supermaro 6 лет назад
This was an episode I really enjoyed. Not gonna lie, most of the pokemon you reviewed lately have been lack luster on the competitive side, but this one was very entertaining!
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 6 лет назад
I agree, I've loved using this awesome old pokemon since the 1990s.
@MorganKing95
@MorganKing95 6 лет назад
+Arrior 115 That's probably because if he covers OU Pokémon, we kinda expect the verdict to be "... was great". It's more interesting to see the underdogs. With that being said, it was nice to see a Pokémon again that was actually amazing.
@2supermaro
@2supermaro 6 лет назад
StrasbergProtégé Not necessarily. I doubt many people know how all pokemon were competitively in each gen so it's hard to refer to "OU" as there's technically 7 different ones and only a handful of pokemon have been OU forever so it won't be easy to predict, especially since some pokemon were bad or "not so good" but then turned OU due to buffs in gens such as blaziken. Further more, my point was more in a reference to pokemon that don't have any offensive purpose at all (Smeargle, shuckle, umbreon, etc) They do the same thing every gen and that was just simply boring to watch.
@MorganKing95
@MorganKing95 6 лет назад
+Arrior 115 Because sometimes there's more to it than what meets the eye, and because Smogon articles are not always specific on why a Pokémon sucks. Sure the Shuckle video was dumb, but the Moltres video for example was quite interesting even though it never dropped to NU (though one might have expected it)
@MorganKing95
@MorganKing95 6 лет назад
+Just Breathe The Shuckle video was dumb, but I thought it was interesting to see how for example Umbreon and Smeargle could drop so badly while being great as a defensive Pokémon another Gen. Also, I'm pretty sure everybody knew that Tyranitar, Scizor, Skarmory, Zapdos, Gengar, and maybe Starmie would be considered great.
@metathpr4h290
@metathpr4h290 6 лет назад
Woah, as someone who played "seriously" only in Gen 5, I always thought that Cloyster sucked until Shell Smash appeared, but I'm glad to see that he has always been consistently nice, awesome video and happy new year!
@ShinyTillDawn
@ShinyTillDawn 6 лет назад
Its Skill Link niche works very well in Gen 6 Battle Spot Singles!
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 6 лет назад
It has always been anice pokémon ;)
@colejackson9660
@colejackson9660 6 лет назад
Metathpr4h cloister is a beast skill link with icicle spear=guaranteed 125 stabs damage
@sawyerlawler2489
@sawyerlawler2489 6 лет назад
skill link cloyster is NASTY, get a baton passer that knows swords dance/agility and you can turn cloyster into an absolute monster. Plus i'm.pretty sure shellder learns focus energy at some point
@darthtator3549
@darthtator3549 6 лет назад
Its nice
@leogh1378
@leogh1378 6 лет назад
I got 6 - 0 swept by a Shell Smash Cloyster in smogon randoms this week, so thanks.
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 3 года назад
Cloyster standing above your dead team: walk it off
@leogh1378
@leogh1378 3 года назад
@@theskullboy8700 On showdown, oysters eat you.
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 3 года назад
@@leogh1378 **blasts Soviet anthem**
@Seinsmelled
@Seinsmelled 2 года назад
@@theskullboy8700 😐
@TheRealmDrifter
@TheRealmDrifter 6 лет назад
An Ice type that doesn't suck? *_Well how about that?_*
@dlaek3906
@dlaek3906 6 лет назад
TheRealmDrifter wevile is good
@noz9763
@noz9763 6 лет назад
Weavile,A-Ninetales and Kyurem-Black are good too...
@2supermaro
@2supermaro 6 лет назад
Mudkipz Those are 4 pokemon lol
@ChauNyan
@ChauNyan 6 лет назад
Just Breathe There are only so many good Pokémon.
@Zendvious
@Zendvious 6 лет назад
Mamoswine Beats every other ice type
@ScarfaceMich
@ScarfaceMich 4 года назад
First artwork of every pokemon looks so old school and brings back great memories. Thanks man.
@starsoficarus3915
@starsoficarus3915 6 лет назад
How good was Togetic and Togekiss ACTUALLY? C’mon I’ve been waiting since Weavile Edit: Scrolling through the comments I’m seeing some other Togefans commenting, I hope our Paraflinching bird gets in!
@kokichiouma5286
@kokichiouma5286 6 лет назад
I've been waiting since gengar....
@Pur3AGL
@Pur3AGL 6 лет назад
Th3WhiteLotus Yes please. This.
@bean5566
@bean5566 6 лет назад
Th3WhiteLotus I've been waiting since wigglytuff
@HeyHeyChey
@HeyHeyChey 6 лет назад
I hate togekiss but i guess it's a pick that has story so i am looking forward to it
@lordjftw6991
@lordjftw6991 6 лет назад
YESS
@sealandrelevant1310
@sealandrelevant1310 6 лет назад
I won't give up until we get a GRASS TYPE again! We haven't seen one since... Venusaur, and that was like the second video ever in this channel or so. How GOOD were Tangela and Tangrowth ACTUALLY?
@michaelbesser4984
@michaelbesser4984 6 лет назад
Sealand Relevant Sure, that works. I kinda want to see either this or Exeggutor.
@reginlief1
@reginlief1 6 лет назад
Sealand Relevant I've been begging for tangela/tangrowth for so long now. Hang in there dude!
@Bigmanpo615
@Bigmanpo615 6 лет назад
reginlief1 me too
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 6 лет назад
Vileplume and Bellossom too :)
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 6 лет назад
We should form a grass type voting committee lol
@FantasyAngel-zj7bw
@FantasyAngel-zj7bw 6 лет назад
You have no idea how thankful I am for lack of innuendo jokes.
@flufflepants362
@flufflepants362 6 лет назад
Yep
@vlo4829
@vlo4829 6 лет назад
Yes, Cloyster is awesome and deserves some respect!
@pauljohnong5924
@pauljohnong5924 6 лет назад
THE LIKES OF YOUR COMMENT IS 69.... Nuff said... hope no one else likes this.
@flufflepants362
@flufflepants362 6 лет назад
Plz no
@EdmacZ
@EdmacZ 6 лет назад
Cloyster isn’t grinning much these days. It’s currently RU in Gen 7, and isn’t moving up anytime soon. Gen 7 has been terrible for Pokemon. With so many OP Ultra Beasts and Megas running around that can hit hard from the word go, and in some cases get stronger through sweeping, The meta game has no room for the classic set up sweeper anymore. Gen 7 is a new power creep generation, and several old classics just can’t cut the mustard. Breloom, Gengar, Scizor...they can’t keep up. And unless something drastic happens, the meta game is going to be running rampant with Ultra Beasts and Megas for the foreseeable future.
@MorganKing95
@MorganKing95 6 лет назад
+EdmacZ I just checked out the most recent OU list for Gen 7, and only 46 Pokémon are from a past Gen. Out of those, only 15 are not legendaries/mythicals, pseudo-legendaries, or Mega-Evolutions.
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 5 лет назад
Breloom and Scizor, yes, but I really think Gengar with Levitate would have kept up. Gengar's case was less about being phased out by new Pokémon and more about being actively nerfed by the powers that be. Cursed Body is trash on something so frail.
@snekladyrobin
@snekladyrobin 5 лет назад
@@gengarzilla1685 Breloom is unfortunately stuck flailing around in UUBL, as a worse Kartana
@snekladyrobin
@snekladyrobin 5 лет назад
It still has a niche in Ubers, which is kinda neat
@notoriouscasual5004
@notoriouscasual5004 5 лет назад
Gen 7 indeed has been power creeping indeed. From a Stall Metagame to a Terrain Metagame to the return of Weather Meta, lots of pokemon there are not kind to the set up sweepers, especially in an OU tier dominated by Heatran, Landorus T and Toxapex
@austinkessler90
@austinkessler90 Год назад
We need a CLOYSTER remake.
@victikirby15
@victikirby15 6 лет назад
How good were Misdreavus/Mismagius ACTUALLY?
@reallyspingebillboxpants
@reallyspingebillboxpants 6 лет назад
Yeah, do that
@Xanit
@Xanit 6 лет назад
I've been suggesting this for a while!
@austingordon3709
@austingordon3709 6 лет назад
victikirby15 It doesen,t affect Misdreavus.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 6 лет назад
+Benjaminbest2005_Roblox LOLZ!!!
@kurusu1892
@kurusu1892 5 лет назад
It's here
@nathanf1149
@nathanf1149 6 лет назад
After houndoom, could we do: How GOOD was Kangaskhan ACTUALLY? I would love this.
@IHeliosI
@IHeliosI 6 лет назад
Been waiting on Kanga for months now.
@MetalGearRaxis
@MetalGearRaxis 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Gardevoir ACTUALLY? :D
@ryle5410
@ryle5410 6 лет назад
Gardevoir? Isn’t that what people fap to on /e/?
@kristianschuff1723
@kristianschuff1723 6 лет назад
Better than Alakazam
@Tetzll123
@Tetzll123 6 лет назад
no never fuck off
@federicopalacios7439
@federicopalacios7439 6 лет назад
Actually Alakazam was consistently better than Garde in every gen except maybe 3, even her mega, which is a really strong wallbreaker is almost always outclassed by either Mega-Kazam, Tapu-Fini and Lele. Garde only niche is her speed control with Icy Wind/T-Wave, Will-o-Wisp and her massively strong Hyper Voice, and you REALLY need to want one of those things on your team to justify using her over those three above.
@KingStr0ng
@KingStr0ng 6 лет назад
Good enough for porn. 😏
@ReisOfCake
@ReisOfCake 6 лет назад
All time favorite Pokemon. So underrated by the masses.
@diegouy8277
@diegouy8277 5 лет назад
Oh man, I knew I wasn't the only one that thought of kings rock and skill link. Man, its pretty fun seeing people flinch over and over and over again
@haidynwendlandt2479
@haidynwendlandt2479 4 года назад
I used to cheese people on Pokémon showdown with King’s Rock Skill Link Cinccino back in Gen 5 as a wee lad. ‘Twas a blast.
@clodcast1316
@clodcast1316 6 лет назад
How GOOD were Magmar and Magmortar ACTUALLY?
@Zendvious
@Zendvious 6 лет назад
They were goddam awfull, Even magmortar was NU in gen 4
@Alche_mist
@Alche_mist 6 лет назад
Currently, Magmortar rules and dominates... PU.
@jacobmelanson3210
@jacobmelanson3210 6 лет назад
Cloyster is my favourite Pokémon. It's nice to see it get some love. Thanks for doing this.
@jeroenb699
@jeroenb699 6 лет назад
How good was everyone's favourite telekinetic egg coconut tree thing (Exeggutor) actually? I'll never give up.
@reallyradhambo
@reallyradhambo 6 лет назад
I think it´s better for him not to do it and wait gen 7 meta to be fully developed so he can cover Alolan Exeggutor as well.
@ianchristopher367
@ianchristopher367 5 лет назад
2019. Still works as a Shell Smash sweeper in Gen 7 Ubers. :D
@m.m.2341
@m.m.2341 4 года назад
2019. Got absolutely destroyed by one in Gen8 online. No dynamax needed. If you don't have a fast hard hitting answer to it, when the thing shell smashes, you're SCREWED!
@ringoargonaut4923
@ringoargonaut4923 4 года назад
@@m.m.2341 conk can check it with mach munch OHKO after rocks
@bevhindle4727
@bevhindle4727 4 года назад
A cloyster once OHKOed my entire team. At the time of writing this, it was a few hours ago. I came to release my anger.
@pez1850
@pez1850 6 лет назад
Cloyster quickly became one of my favourite pokemon once I got into competitive (in gen 6), glad you finally covered it, good work!!
@krowking123
@krowking123 6 лет назад
Rumor has it it’s best partner is Onix~
@secretsquirrel7974
@secretsquirrel7974 6 лет назад
Ayyy
@wildbreadbox1647
@wildbreadbox1647 6 лет назад
Ahahahahaha
@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf
@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf 6 лет назад
haha benis :-DDDD
@R0m0n3
@R0m0n3 6 лет назад
I only truely valued cloyster after puberty.
@thomaspritchard938
@thomaspritchard938 6 лет назад
Shoutout to that trainer couple in HGSS
@gavinparished
@gavinparished 6 лет назад
How good were the Legendary Dogs? They are talked about a lot in Gen 2 so talk about them in their own video already. If not. How GOOD was Beedrill ACTUALLY?
@metalhamer1000
@metalhamer1000 6 лет назад
I think this title would be better:How BAD was Beedrill ACTUALLY?
@TheDjpwn3
@TheDjpwn3 6 лет назад
I second Beedrill
@nineflames2863
@nineflames2863 6 лет назад
They are cats. Entei is a lion and Raikou is a tiger. Suicune might be based off of a leopard.
@gavinparished
@gavinparished 6 лет назад
I really don't care, they are known as "The Legendary Dogs" so that's what I'll call them
@Liger_Rusto
@Liger_Rusto 6 лет назад
There are no legendary dogs.
@thedarkestcurse9023
@thedarkestcurse9023 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Misdreavus/Mismagius ACTUALLY- History of Misdreavus/Mismagius in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-6) Please XD
@marceloSSJ
@marceloSSJ 6 лет назад
GS: misdreavus: a good perish trapper RS: misdreavus: medium perish trapper, with levitate DP: mismagius: u turn fuck perish trap, but a good plot sweeper, wowisp has a niche BW: misdreavus: eviolite perish trapper, but uturn exist mismagius: medium plot sweeper, wowisp and hex has a niche XY: mismagius: this witch not gain a fairy type, not either fairy coverage wth moonblast is the same mon, NU spinblocker
@thedarkestcurse9023
@thedarkestcurse9023 6 лет назад
Don't forget the nuke set, Choice Specs Mismagius with Shadow Ball/Dazzling Gleam/Energy Ball/Filler
@stevedarragh7489
@stevedarragh7489 6 лет назад
EnderPlayzGames it dead if your ghost type
@videakias3000
@videakias3000 4 года назад
It is a little dissapointing how moves like spikes are usefull in competitive but are almost useless when playing alone. The ai rarely ever switches pokemon so there is very little reason to use spikes. Stealth rock may work a little at some opponents though.
@jotarokujo3603
@jotarokujo3603 2 года назад
Tbf against bigger teams in the late game if you set all your hazards early everything else is going to come in with significantly less hp. Then again by that point just about everything is dying in one hit anyway due to your own Pokémon having EVs. At least you can still use them to some effect if you want.
@pokemaniac333
@pokemaniac333 6 лет назад
Part 3 of gen 1 battles soon? Also this was an uplifting one compared to the last few. Nice job Cloyster!
@PumPuum
@PumPuum 6 лет назад
How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* Actually?
@lohgock555
@lohgock555 6 лет назад
i knew cloyster was amazing but I did'nt think it was that good :D nice video as always
@iBenjamin1000
@iBenjamin1000 6 лет назад
I never gave much thought to Cloyster. There's a bunch of water types even in gen 1 and it seemed kind of...average. Cool to see that it was actually really good. Now I can't wait to use it in xd gale of darkness.
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 6 лет назад
He's been one of my fav go-tos since the 90s, but I didn't even know he's been kicking butt up to today. Keep smiling big guy!
@sheriffjesus8
@sheriffjesus8 6 лет назад
Could we see a how good was Donphan actually?
@gamefannl4963
@gamefannl4963 6 лет назад
Micah Johnson the king of 1v1 but that's not included in the video's
@oles9196
@oles9196 6 лет назад
IMO its one of the best spinner. Its defense and attack are very high and you can assault vest to get a more than decent speial defense. It has STAB earthquake and a great coverage with Thunder and Firefang so it can just stay in battle and kill 1 or 3 Pkm like it is nothing.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 6 лет назад
Smogon's least favorite pokemon
@ShadowsWrath4
@ShadowsWrath4 6 лет назад
If Cloyster's shell can resist bomb explosions, WHAT EXACTLY DOES CLOYSTER DO TO SMASH IT'S SHELL? HOLY SHIT.
@kheireddineattala1281
@kheireddineattala1281 3 года назад
he just hits the "open" button game freak gave him in gen 5
@YogiTehBear
@YogiTehBear 4 года назад
Nice to see my favorite getting some love!
@Glasseshoodman
@Glasseshoodman 6 лет назад
how good was perpetually misprinted Feraligatr, actually?
@definitelynotabot593
@definitelynotabot593 6 лет назад
If we're doing that we might as well suggest the other two as well, typhlosion and meganium too please
@ejcbubba27
@ejcbubba27 6 лет назад
I approve. ✔
@AleXannon92
@AleXannon92 6 лет назад
Feraligatr is so good now with sheer force life orb boosted liquidation. I love using it.
@noturanic521
@noturanic521 6 лет назад
AleXizzed hey dude got any extra HA totodiles?
@Ampharosite
@Ampharosite 6 лет назад
How G O O D was Exeggutor A C T U A L L Y ? Can we finally get this one done? ;-;
@Pur3AGL
@Pur3AGL 6 лет назад
Ampharosite I think they maybe want to wait until Gen 7 has passed so they can take its Alola form into account for the video.
@t45ty7
@t45ty7 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Ninetales Actually? - History of Ninetales in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-6)
@Sergio-lz5jp
@Sergio-lz5jp 4 года назад
lorelei cloyster was very hard in pokemon blue and from that moment I wanted it on my team, I currently use it in pokemon sword
@user-pd8ne6vw7i
@user-pd8ne6vw7i 6 лет назад
How good was Aggron ACTUALLY?
@alexsano1450
@alexsano1450 6 лет назад
gonna keep posting until tentacruel gets some love.
@DirtiestDMusic
@DirtiestDMusic 6 лет назад
Still voting for Exeggutor or the Gen 1 Battling vid.
@GwyndolinSimp
@GwyndolinSimp 4 года назад
This thing with shell smash has sweeped my entire team more than once, damn it I hate it :(
@m.m.2341
@m.m.2341 4 года назад
Just get one yourself. That's how Gliscor became one of my favorite mons in Gen 5 :D It was so annoying to fight, that I just got my own. And I love how so many people online didn't seem to know it's part ground type and tried electric attacks over and over again :D That's sadly gone starting with Gen 7.
@bevhindle4727
@bevhindle4727 4 года назад
M. M. Thanks for the advice.
@werrywit
@werrywit 4 года назад
M. M. I did this with chansey. I have lost all my friends.
@AStrategyGameDev
@AStrategyGameDev 6 лет назад
before watching: I remember him being really good, pretty much sweeps using Ice darts? spears? whatever.
@californium-2526
@californium-2526 4 года назад
Ice Shard (Priority move)
@californium-2526
@californium-2526 3 года назад
Sorry, it wasn't Ice Shard, it was Icicle Spear
@Spoonbles
@Spoonbles 6 лет назад
How ANNOYING was Cloyster ACTUALLY?
@threeruneblade
@threeruneblade 6 лет назад
That's gonna be the joke for the togetic/togekiss video with the damn AIR SLASH
@Lucky-qx6hc
@Lucky-qx6hc 6 лет назад
I really want to see Togetic and Togekiss!!!
@starsoficarus3915
@starsoficarus3915 6 лет назад
Lucky 98 Finally starting to get some Togekiss support! I’ve been waiting since Weavile
@b99b12
@b99b12 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Delibird ACTUALLY?
@allewis4008
@allewis4008 6 лет назад
I was expecting this for the new year, kind of surprised.
@angelomarasigan4347
@angelomarasigan4347 6 лет назад
was expecting Delibird for their Christmas upload
@shaneoblack1672
@shaneoblack1672 6 лет назад
Presently not so great.
@jennatolls7424
@jennatolls7424 6 лет назад
Silk scarf present and the opponent is done for
@yech3461
@yech3461 6 лет назад
Brown Magic unless it heals them
@Iinneus
@Iinneus 6 лет назад
I love Cloyster's competitive history purely because it's always been good, but it's rarely ever been good for the same reasons multiple times. It's really adapted as time's gone on, which barely ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS SERIES has done! Anyway, my vote's for *Murkrow and Honchkrow.* Especially just to see how the video(s) would be handled!
@AffyMoon
@AffyMoon 4 года назад
I really like cloyster(especially skill link) so I'm glad it was good at quite a few points
@shyamallama5076
@shyamallama5076 6 лет назад
How GOOD were the Johto starters ACTUALLY?
@infinitebacon9021
@infinitebacon9021 6 лет назад
How good was electabuzz or electivire actually
@Luablood
@Luablood 6 лет назад
InfiniteBacon saddly not that great... Electivire stats lacks for good solo... has potential in double tho... it lacks the speed of other Electric types or HP IIRC but yeah I cant remember for sure but I know It lacked a certain stat.... either Speed that would make it an attacker or hp/def/SpDef that would make it a tank... could do a search to make rhis post kess shady but Im no expert... just someone who once wanted to use Electivire in Competitive and got disapointed
@d.t7997
@d.t7997 6 лет назад
Togetic and Togekiss?
@rosanirodrigues557
@rosanirodrigues557 6 лет назад
Eptastella yes I love useing togekiss in platinum and soul sliver
@Lexanvalentine
@Lexanvalentine 6 лет назад
I'd love to see the Gen l part 3 video, I'm really looking forward to it
@supermorenito
@supermorenito 6 лет назад
Never imagined cloyster was this good! Great video
@TheFlashzap
@TheFlashzap 6 лет назад
Not to mention it now has Liquidation in gen 7 which eliminates the risk of Razor Shell missing
@Neevkl_7
@Neevkl_7 6 лет назад
so many pokemon benifit from Liquidation now Ferraligator and Kingler now have a very good sheer force water move Barbaracle has a tough claws boosted liquidation eliminating razor shells miss just like Cloyster Armaldo can use it in the rain with swift swim Swanna can run Brave Bird and Liquidation to be full physical instead of mixed and Crawdaunt has a pretty crazy Adaptibility Liquidation
@marceloSSJ
@marceloSSJ 6 лет назад
rly nice, but i dont believe than this make cloyster OU in gen 7
@andrevanderlinden8722
@andrevanderlinden8722 6 лет назад
Cloyster doesnt use liq anyway, because of its basic shell smash sets
@TheFlashzap
@TheFlashzap 6 лет назад
André Van der Linden you kidding why wouldn’t you run that, it’s always Shell Smash, Icicle Spear, Liquidation, Rock Blast
@andrevanderlinden8722
@andrevanderlinden8722 6 лет назад
TheFlashzap id slap rapid spin, explosion, hydro pump or ice shard on it. But thats just my opinion ;)
@TheNorseCrow
@TheNorseCrow 6 лет назад
How good was Tentacruel actually?
@jamesathersmith2191
@jamesathersmith2191 6 лет назад
How good was jolteon pls
@Jordy32
@Jordy32 6 лет назад
btw it's pretty funny to see how much you've improved since the first videos :D nice going
@DrumRug
@DrumRug 6 лет назад
For awhile as a kid, I thought it was spelled "Cloister," but apparently that's an actual word.
@harmless_xd4107
@harmless_xd4107 6 лет назад
History of murkow and honchcrow
@jack.calder
@jack.calder 6 лет назад
How GOOD was the Johto and Hoenn starters ACTUALLY?
@KidGamer998
@KidGamer998 6 лет назад
How good was Sandslash actually???????
@pvbferreira
@pvbferreira 6 лет назад
KidGamer998 always crap
@yolked1360
@yolked1360 6 лет назад
when I was a kid I loved and first watched first gen pokemon Cloyster immediately became my favorite pokemon. His smug ass smile full of confidence and its inside of a huge cool looking shell WITH SPIKES none the less. Like how can you not love that pokemon?
@derpderp5289
@derpderp5289 6 лет назад
berry good video, one of my favorites of yours yet!
@jaire4061
@jaire4061 6 лет назад
Gallade next
@Xyrofen
@Xyrofen 6 лет назад
Gonna keep posting about that Togekiss
@ΓιώργοςΚιούσης-λ1σ
Xyrofen me 2
@HorrorGeek9
@HorrorGeek9 6 лет назад
Cloyster is one of the few ice types that does well competitively (Weavile, Mamoswine, Kyrem Black, and A-Ninetaile, on the top of my head, are the only other ice types that I can think of that do well competitively)
@kazemitra3896
@kazemitra3896 6 лет назад
How good was Forretress ACTUALLY? Also, what's the music in the background of your videos? I love it.
@hazyfall1
@hazyfall1 6 лет назад
The music is listed at the end of the video.
@apdroidgeek1737
@apdroidgeek1737 4 года назад
Forretress is one of the best spinner and spike setter in the game nuff said
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
@ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 6 лет назад
Will you be able to get XD footage again soon?
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja 6 лет назад
How good was Yanma/Yanmega actually?
@doublethan1466
@doublethan1466 6 лет назад
How good was raichu actually?
@darquezze306
@darquezze306 6 лет назад
How good was Feraligatr actually?
@petercarioscia9189
@petercarioscia9189 4 года назад
Cloyster was my first water teammate AND where I leaned about EVs (or whatever they were called in gen1) Because at lvl100 I KNEW it had 300 defense...and suddenly it had 301, and eventually 302...so i knew somehow it was gaining stats. I didn't understand how or why when I was just 11 playing Pokemon, in fact I didn't put 2 and 2 together until I finally learned about those kinds of mechanics when I picked pokemon pack up in college with pokemon Ruby
@spencerbowden2979
@spencerbowden2979 4 года назад
Trying to train my gen 3 Cloyster. My god what a nightmare. This thing isn’t viable in a fight unless your opponent is a ground type which is likely to be slower than he is. The only offensive moves it learns are Ice type.
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 2 года назад
what about surf?
@ducklett01god
@ducklett01god 2 года назад
@@gregorymirabella1423 level up
@hajjrogerinho5108
@hajjrogerinho5108 6 лет назад
How good was Togetic (and then Togekiss since gen. 4) actually?
@Falzyker
@Falzyker 6 лет назад
How good was Dusclops/Dusknoir!!!
@AwesomeMooseSmile
@AwesomeMooseSmile 6 лет назад
MrNarfRetsam bad
@tigerman7527
@tigerman7527 6 лет назад
OU in gen 3-4. PU in the rest
@dan240393
@dan240393 6 лет назад
Incredibly good in R/S/E Nuzlocke's. Stats were still low enough then for Dusclops to be all but immortal. It would have been so much fun if it had been Ghost/Dark.
@sadweedle6832
@sadweedle6832 6 лет назад
MrNarfRetsam yes
@reginlief1
@reginlief1 6 лет назад
MrNarfRetsam as much as I love those two, that video will depress me thanks to eviolite
@andysgamings6082
@andysgamings6082 6 лет назад
How good was Togetic and Togekiss actually?
@threeruneblade
@threeruneblade 6 лет назад
AIR SLASH FLINCH
@supaboy339
@supaboy339 6 лет назад
AndySGaming S I've been wanting that for weeks
@abrar8375
@abrar8375 5 лет назад
I always use cloyster in Pokemon showdown, and most of the time half the enemy team is obliterated by it, then metagross and marshadow clean up the survivors or the enemy forfeits. Yes, white herb, shell smash, icicle spear, is very nice.
@squeegie
@squeegie 3 года назад
It's been 25 years yet we never got Shellder's other evolution form that's part of the Slowpoke's evolution line. Could call it Shellbro, Broyster... lol.
@ToxicFridge
@ToxicFridge 6 лет назад
How good was Forretress actually? I love this mon!
@Skellyy
@Skellyy 6 лет назад
How good was kapootops actually
@mckerosine3134
@mckerosine3134 6 лет назад
Houndoom or metagross next
@snafutari8799
@snafutari8799 6 лет назад
Just a fun fact from the crazy world of OMs (other metagames for those who don't know) Cloyster got kings rock and razor fang banned from STABmons. What it would do is somehow get a shell smash off, then spam water shuriken. STAB priority that flinches pretty often is brutal in a meta where offense is everywhere.
@jefferycrouch4396
@jefferycrouch4396 2 года назад
This guy and Vileplume have been my go to since Gen 1. Still remember sitting in the back of my mom's jeep Cherokee 12 hours into a 18 hour road trip to Florida holding a flashlight up to my Gameboy fishing with my brand new good rod and pulling up my first shellder. When I got into online play everyone always slept on some of my pokemon choices but cloyster seemed to always make em pay.
@ShawayFH
@ShawayFH 6 лет назад
How GOOD was Raichu ACTUALLY?
@michaellenkeit9898
@michaellenkeit9898 6 лет назад
How GOOD were Togetic/Togekiss ACTUALLY?
@denzelmacaraig8581
@denzelmacaraig8581 4 года назад
I still love Cloyster in gen 8. It helped me reach Master Ball Tier in ranked doubles 💛 (used it as counter against focus sash users, grass types, and dragon types haha)
@Poptomist
@Poptomist 4 года назад
Cloyster is a Pokémon everyone loves even if it’s not they’re favorite
@jordanfleming7022
@jordanfleming7022 3 года назад
Cloyster with lightning rod instead of overcoat would be terrifying.
@CloudySkies17695
@CloudySkies17695 6 лет назад
I’m still waiting for Raichu
@cabrondemente1
@cabrondemente1 6 лет назад
CloudySkies17695 he sucks, video over
@PKMNwww411_MkII
@PKMNwww411_MkII 6 лет назад
Don't forget Pikachu too.
@sebastianfernandezruiz8343
@sebastianfernandezruiz8343 6 лет назад
sadly, raichu has always been trash, so this video would be a little bit boring imo
@stevedarragh7489
@stevedarragh7489 6 лет назад
CloudySkies17695 please wait
@RDan_
@RDan_ 6 лет назад
Raichu gets severely checked in smogon, but does really good in vgc. Especially specs Raichu (alola) with Rain/Elec terrain
@ramne6779
@ramne6779 6 лет назад
How good was Dusclops/Dusknoir ACTUALLY? =|
@emilystorms2464
@emilystorms2464 6 лет назад
Cloyster is my all time favorite Pokemon
@Arlae_Nova
@Arlae_Nova 6 лет назад
I feel a mega cloyster incoming for the next pokemon game. I can already see the design: MORE SHELLS!!! I actually would love to see that happening.
@danielperezmartin6456
@danielperezmartin6456 6 лет назад
How GOOD were the Legendary Beasts actually?
@ivolloxy3030
@ivolloxy3030 6 лет назад
Daniel Pérez Martín Which one then? It would be boring to have them in a row
@danielperezmartin6456
@danielperezmartin6456 6 лет назад
iVol I would highly suggest making a video on Raikou, if I only had to pick one of them (the best of the LB in competitive)
@cheetahmangaming
@cheetahmangaming 6 лет назад
How Good Were The Johto Starters Actually
@petervilla5221
@petervilla5221 6 лет назад
Typhlosion started off pretty good with powerful eruptions and a decent special attack, but it couldn't keep up with the power creep. Meganium started off as a decent dual screens setter and grass type support, but also quickly got passed over for the newer, better grass types like Tangrowth, and Roserade. So yeah, Feraligatr was the only one to stay decently relevant with its setup sets.
@DillonSolos
@DillonSolos 6 лет назад
Decent to just left behind
@GUSTY1217
@GUSTY1217 6 лет назад
How good was Electrode ACTUALLY.
@nevik54321
@nevik54321 6 лет назад
Do be honest I didn’t expect much for cloyster in the earlier games but it was good back then. What cloyster needs is a water type multi hit move and possibly a mega evolution.
@z0h33y
@z0h33y 2 года назад
Ive pretty much been running shell smash Cloyster in every game since XY. The people who know what he does are afraid of him, and the people who dont know much about him - they really under-estimate him.
@Leo-wq8sv
@Leo-wq8sv 6 лет назад
How good was pidgeot
@meatleinkpowers
@meatleinkpowers 6 лет назад
Vegetto million bad until gen 6 with mega
@peanutbutterpikachu
@peanutbutterpikachu 6 лет назад
Vegetto million everyone used it in their playthrough if it was on route 1.
@futureaests2170
@futureaests2170 6 лет назад
why would anyone waste a mega slot for pidgeot lol
@Zendvious
@Zendvious 6 лет назад
It's the worst normal-flying type in the game exept for farfetch'd and that isn't even a pokemon
@alkaios6451
@alkaios6451 6 лет назад
Cloyster is always on my team when playing a gen 1 game and whenever I find it in a later game, I can always find a spot for it. Bloody love it.
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