I used to do this thing with oraguru and alian golem in doubles. I really cant remember the details but it involed golem exploding turn one and killing everything, while...setting up oranguru..i think. It was op
Golem is in Gen 1 UU now, what the hell?!?! I thought old generations don't get touched!! But if so then free Venusaur from BW OU when it can't abuse Drought anymore!
Actually, Golem's issues in the anime actually make sense. You see, how it shrugged off water and grass attacks was by rolling so fast that they couldn't effect it, but that rolling backfired; because it was hot, rolling around made it dizzy and feel more troubled. Also, in the anime, Pikachu's power is inconsistent. It can be weak to monstrously strong, with electric attack so powerful that it could get around type immunity. And because in the anime, the creatures are actual creatures and not pieces of game data, it doesn't fully follow game logic... like how, in real life, paper doesn't actually beat rock.
It's funny how common he was in Gen 1 and how overlooked it was in Gen 2, and now it's exactly other way around. Either way, Gen 2 is def the best for Golem due to how omnipresent Spikes is and due to how good Explosion is too.
@@fulgenzio89 Well logically some pokemon who could get rapid spin would never get defog(unless pokemon is going the route where it doesn't have to make sense)
Rapid spin is not worthless lol it clears just your side of hazards instead of both which is nice but unlike defog it can get blocked they both got their problems
many of the gen 1 evolution lines felt inconsistent in a similar manner - like for example Squirtle -> Wartortle -> Blastoise - for some reason Squirtle gains a bushy tail tail and ears.... than loses them and instead evolves into having short stubby tail and ears and water cannons protruding out of it's shell - I know there's a background in japanese mythology with Wartortle's looks, but still the design of the evolution just goes into a completely different direction from the middle stage which has always disturbed me
@@XCodes The saddest part of all is that technically it still has potential. Ground and Rock are a great offensive combo that hits the major threats hard. But the meta has shifted to where any pokemon with this stab combination needs speed and power over defenses. If any Rock/Ground pokemon want to be relevant now, they need to be speedy sweepers.
Wow, I thought Alolan Golem was terrible, but it has certainly contributed to the argument: "not all of OU is OU." The fact that it checks a lot of Pokémon that are hard to get around, especially Magearna and Heatran, makes me look at it in better light.
@@fulgenzio89 There is Camerupt, whose Mega is banned from NU, but the base form is untiered. But since Megas are considered their own Pokémon in Smogon, you're correct.
Most low tiered Pokemon that are viable in OU are not "good". They have niches, some very important, that make them viable. e.g. Pyukumuku, Ribombee, Avalugg, Quagsire, Quilfish, Gastrodon, and as someone else mentioned, Ditto. If you're interested you can go read some of these analyses. They really show off how complex and creative competitive Pokemon can become.
@@nickcostanza8730 Never have i seen a ditto on a serious OU team. Its stat is really sad, so even if it transform into another OU mons, i doubt that it would pull off something spectacular.
I remember using a Golem in Battle Royal with my friends with the idea of a Galavanize Explosion gimmick and then my friend sent out his Swampert with Damp
It would be really interesting to see both forms get Rapid Spin. The Alolan form could theoretically pair it with Galvanize to not get spinblocked by Ghost types. Yeah it'd be blocked by Ground types instead, but hey, discard and draw.
Quick update for future viewers: turns out, in gen1 normal types can't be paralyzed by Body Slam. That change made Chansey and Snorlax almost mandatory with reflect, so now Explosion Golem isn't nearly as useful. This made it completely outclassed by Rhydon, so it dropped to UU. But UU is filled with water types and Golem doesn't do anything since it is too slow and ended in NU. Yeah...
Man, poor Golem. What bugs me it's most of sets had "Sucker Punch" on it. You know how difficult is getting one of those these days? Sucker Punch was a tutor move on POKEMON PLATINUM! You have to send a 4th gen Golem all the way to Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, and Smogon had the move on all sets too.
Much like Tauros and Exeggutor, Golem's history is the sad tale of a once-great Pokemon that just couldn't keep up with the times. At least its Alolan form has some use in OU, though.
I love how theres literally NO comments about voting for the next pokemon but theres these comments trying to fetch for likes and attention by pointing out something that has clearly already been acknowledged. You're some kind of special aren't you? 😂😂😂
I used a Stealth Rock Sturdy Golem with Custap Berry for an Explosion in OU back in Gen5. I learned that set from Pimpnite and it was really useful in the weather wars.
Golem was the first pokemon I obsessed over, because it was the only time I got my cousin to trade with me on link cable so I could get one lol. After that playthrough ive never had a traded evolution in those games again
Trade evolutions are a bad idea in the first place. It alienates people who cannot do them. The games are still playable without those few Pokemon that can. But I've always loved Scizor and especially since its mega... Yet I've never ever had one.
@@gamermanzeake Well if you have a 3ds and one of the newer games you could always trade a scyther online. I could always trade with you if you'd like.
@@jacobschmidt3795 I do have a 3Ds! I have Omega Ruby, and I do have ultra Sun and Moon but I haven't even played those yet. I've been so busy. I think the ORAS games are bar none the best Pokemon games in existence! Loved Gen three and they found a way to improve upon a diamond that seemed flawless as it was! I'd love to trade you, and I could help you with your trading needs as well!
NO megas the last thing we need is megas they’ve done enough..😒 the variant was the best thing they could’ve done with it other than giving it a much needed stat buff & +20 Hp & Sp.defense +10 in Atk Solid Rock ability
You definitely missed out on rock polish golem. With full speed+attack rock polish golem is really good. Specially after gen 5 with sturdy and weakness policy rock polish and flail golem is incredibly devestating if you dont come across a priorty move or entrt hazard.
Probably because most people turned to Rhydon for not killing itself, easier to use and better bulk and power, this is my best guess but not unrealistic
Poor Golem, currently its typing is just painful to see. Two 4x weaknesses along with Four normal ones is plain brutal, but being so slow that it can't take advantage of its amazing STAB combo is just depressing. Though to be honest, atleast it was once good, unlike its Alolan Form that will never be a metagame staple, as long as Magnezone and even Magneton exist.
it has uses in OU like the video descriped. But it isn't good in any other format or to be used how it meant to be. as a classic bomber. in PU its worse than regular Golem according to the playerbase
@@M3rtyville I know. The point is that Alolan Golem will never be an OU staple unless Magnezone and Magneton are somehow banned, heck people might actually use Magnemite over it like how people used Diglett and Trapinch in Dugtrio's place during the Arena Trap suspect test.
@@pepeknight alolan Golem has different targets than Magneton and Magnezone. Even if they didn't exist, he would likely see not much use. PU doesn't use Magnemite from my knowledge and alolan Golem isn't viable in any other format minus OU.
@@M3rtyville does PU have any steel types for Magnemite to feast on? Cause the only reason Magneton is UU is because Scizor rules the UU tier and is a great partner for Latias.
Rock and ground is A HORRIBLE combo, so of course golem would end up being trash. 4 times weak to grass and water, weak to ground, weak to fighting, weak to ice like bruh that's almost every good offensive type in the game.
Grass is pretty bad too offensively due being resisted by so much, the amount of weaknesses it has doesn't help either, but it does have a niche of being super-effective against Rock, Water and Ground types as well as being resistant to Electric, Ground, Water and other Grass-types
Golem was that pokemon which i really liked the design but could never get in the games as a kid since i had no one to trade with, and then it got outclassed when i could actually get it ^^
@@EmperorDionx yeah but usually when playing a new game now i try to use the new pokes and not always my gen 1-3 favourites (Let's Go was an exception of course). And then i usually give up mid way my second playthrough and end up not actually using multiple teams ^^. I still love Golem though, obviusly any mon can work for gym battles but i just don't play as much as i used too, and definitively not online anymore :(
I always found it weird that they kept the Geodude evolution line Rock/Ground, I always thought he'd become a fighting type since he was just a rock who flexed his arms constantly and Graveler was a 4 armed boulder, Golem on the other hand to me felt like his own Pokemon and not part of the Geodude family.
I know they combined some Pokemon evolution lines late in RBY's development (Wartortle did not originally evolve into Blastoise, for example). Maybe Golem was a standalone they combined with Geodude's family to reduce redundancy.
Hi! Are you going to do a quick revisit because of the body slam discovery in gen I described in freezai's recent video? It seems pretty recent that Rhydon definitivelyovertook Golem in the RBY meta
Who the hell designed Alolan Golem? I can't fathom how someone think it's a good idea to take a dinosaur formed like a testicle, slap a mustasch and a beard on it and call it electric. I'm shocked atleast.
It's implied that like Probopass, the mustache and beard is made of magnetic dust, and magnetism is definitely related to electricity. What's more interesting however, is the railgun addition to its back. Shame it doesnt have a signature move akin to Dragapult.
I remember when I was younger, me and my friend played through HGSS and he had a Golem which was a big deal to us. He always beat me with it Then I received a Kyogre lol
0:25 Look up the Machoke trading with Graveler DNA mixup theory!! I think its what Graveler got from Machoke in the trade. (Hence Machoke suddenly having four arms post trade evo, while Graveler loses two of his original four arms in the trade, as an example.)
honestly it is sad golem lost rapid spin, in gen 5 he could have been a great substitude to donphan as a check to sand teams that can explode on mons like conk or jirachi with custap, as well as a great replacement to garchomp/forretress in sand as a setter that also threaten stuff with stab earthquake and explosion basically doing the same thing excadrill does today, but with sturdy instead of mold breaker but he doesnt have rapid spin :(
I thought of a Mega Machamp for a while, it was something a little like this: Type: Dragon/Fighting Ability: Martial Artist (Essentially Tough Claws, but a 1.5x instead of 1.3) Stats: HP: 90 Attack: 175 Defense: 135 Special Attack: 15 Special Defense: 135 Speed: 55 and the ideal moveset might be something like Cross Chop Dual Chop Bulk Up Poison Jab The idea behind the moveset and typing is that Machamp would be a martial artist who practices Southern Dragon Style Kung Fu. Southern Dragon style is a highly reactive style as far as I know, with the user typically waiting for the opponent to make a move, evade or parry the attack and then counterattack (hence why I didn't change its speed and increased its bulk). I would have included Focus Punch in the moveset, but since Mega Machamp would have no Lefties, I decided against it (the reason being that one of the four rule of Southern Dragon style is "focus to train and condition the body"). Design: I was thinking that Machamp would keep its four arms, have a Gi much like Sawk and Throh, and have some kind of dragon motif. Some emblems of a Gyarados (because it's a chinese dragon) on the Gi, give it some whiskers like a chinese dragon (really emphasize the hell outta that dragon motif). Sorry about the long comment, but I saw your comment and wanted to share my idea for a Mega Machamp.
These videos tend to follow a pattern. Gen 1: If you aren't Tauros, Chansey, or Exeggutor, or can't deal with them, you aren't good. Gen 2: RestTalk fest where everything was decent. Gen 3: Another metagame where everything was good. Only less stall-y. Gen 4: EVERYTHING is legitimately good. You have to really suck or have poor stats to not have a chance in any tier. Gen 5: Powercreep booted everything into the pits. Gen 6 and beyond: With few exceptions, you are either good or you suck.
please do how GOOD are blowjobs ACTUALLY? I've been waiting for months for you to cover this. When I was younger I thought they were uber tier, but now I'm thinking they may have fallen off as new things like rim jobs have come to dominate the meta...
Persistence paid off for me. I'm excited to see how this video plays out. Man, this was depressing. Design-wise, Golem was among my favorites and it's honestly sad to see it get hit so hard after GSC. Maybe the next generation will be kinder to Golem.
Golem probably took the biggest fall after Gen 1 because of Rhydon, if Rhydon didn't get an evolution Golem probably would've been a bit better. At least its Alolan form is pretty good
Rhydon is more physically bulky and powerful, has freaking Swords Dance and a better movepool. Megahorn to crush the archnemesis Grass-types plus stuff like Levitate Rock-resists, the elemental punches and Dragon Tail as a phazing move. How could Golem be better even if Rhyperior was never a thing? Sucker Punch, Explosion and slighty better speed, ok, but still. And that Speed advantage would be a disadvantage in Trick Room teams.
I love competitive Pokemon it is just that I feel people shouldn't judge a Pokemon by their tier and instead use what they love. Anything can be viable.
No respect for 5th gen golem my secret weapon. My OU 5th gen lead set was sturdy lum max atk max def rocks stone edge eq and sucker punch. And it was AMAZING. Lum sturdy meant 100% guaranteed rocks. Sucker punch could 1hko gengar earthquake would destroy half the metagame with that atk investment stone edge could break walls with crit ratio increase. Golem literally swept whole teams for me.
Speaking of defying logic, in his battle against Gary, Ash's charizard was affected by Golem's magnitude despite being a flying type 😂 Also happy St. Patrick's day everyone!
Shea Is Bae Was Charizard roosted? And Vine Whip not really damaging Golem makes sense if it’s a physical attack with 40 base power and Golem uses defense curl. Who knew the anime was ahead of the curve when it comes to physical special split?
@@martytu20 I believe the battle was in the gen 2 anime, while roost wasn't introduced until gen 4 in the diamond and pearl series. Although if we're assuming the physical special split applies, a base 15 power move like fire spin definitely couldn't KO Golem lol :)
I'm pretty sure the same Golem that used Magnitude on Charizard also got one-shot by a Dragon Rage immediately after Seismic Toss failed from it being too heavy. Which is just hilarious. That 40 or less total HP Golem, gotta love anime logic. (Though, to be honest, I do prefer the anime's version of Dragon Rage in which it was essentially a "Dragon Pulse" or "Draco Meteor" kind of attack before those actually existed.)
@@JulianimeIsAmazing Yes that's the exact battle! I mean we're talking about the same battle where charizard beat scizor (which I can believe), golem and Gary's Blastoise all one after the other! Honestly though, it's such a great episode of the anime that I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for a little bit :)
Golem may have lived in the shadow of Rhydon, but Alolan Golem was able to acquire metal facial hair (beard, mustache, and eyebrows) and gained the ability to zap water types with the power of thunder.
As someone who knows Pokemon exclusively through Pokemon Go, I was surprised Golem wasn't better in the main series games. Because in PoGo, especially in 2017, Golem was basically one of the best Pokemon to do raids with - it was killer against Zapdos, Moltres, Entei and Raikou.
Fun fact: Choice Band Alolan Golem Explosion with Galvanize is so damaging it could potentially one-shot a Mega Aggron that had max HP and Defense. Damage calculation: ((((2 * 100 / 5 + 2) * 372 Attack * 1.5 Choice Band * 250 * 1.2 Galvanize / 614 Defense) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 STAB = 346 damage versus Mega Aggron's 344 HP. However, this is only assuming the random damage multiplier is the highest possible value. The Mega Aggron would likely survive at low HP in practice.
I would have thought they'd make his rock into a magma ball and rock fire rather then a rock electric with a freaking electric ball shooter and a beard.......what.
Buff to golem Hp:80 to 100 Attack:110 to 120 Defence:130 to 135 Sp attack 55 to 20 Sp def 65 to 85 Speed 45 to 55. Abilities:sturdy,rockhead,solid rock New moves:rapid spin,wild charge,body press,crunch.
I think they should give golem a mega evolution so that Mega Rhydon can walk back into the PU locker room like: Mega Golem: **towels off** what the?! Mega MegaRhydon: sup bro? Mega Golem: what the hell is that?! Mega MegaRhydon: it’s my mega evolution bro. Mega Golem: you already had a mega evolution!! Mega MegaRhydon: nah bro that was just my mega evolution. This is my mega evolution for my mega evolution. Listen bro they’re calling me, see you out there! Mega Golem: Damnit!! Alolan Golem: I know, zis is not fair. Vhen are ve going to geet our time? Mega Golem: you shut up?! You are NOT me! **walks away** rock and electric… it’s blasphemy!…
