@meetyourmaykr to be fair in the metagross video he mentioned tricking an iron ball to rotom wash on the switch then hitting it with earthquake the following turn. While interesting it's not a consistent strategy. Granted that was probably because earlier in that video he claimed that it was impossible for it to hit rotom wash without explosion and he didn't want a million comments going "well actually" like you know I would have done.
How can you play a level 1 pokemon in competitive, don't they hatch at level 5 or is that different in Sw/Sh? This sounds like some pokemon showdown jank, not something anyone actually did, though it is pretty funny. False swipe (the move) counters it though so get rekt, swagnemite
At least half an hour. I can predict it being Magneton lacking a place in OU for the first two gens due to lack of coverage, Rock/Ground types and competition. And then the later parts will be Magnet Pull, Magnezone, and Magneton in lower tiers. And no VGC placement.
@@IgnitedQuils If we learned anything from Camerupt's Gen 4 history, it was that Choice Specs Magneton was a sizable nightmare to completely stop. And also that Camerupt was one of the seldom things that actually could stop it besides Probopass turning it's own Magnet Pull against it until Earth Power ruined it.
I’d love a redo of the rhydon and Rhyperior episode. Considering how influential rhydon itself has been in the lower tiers, I could even see it getting its own episode while Rhyperior gets the porygon-z treatment.
All those early videos could be redone with how insubstantial they are in comparison to modern videos, and missing Gen 8 coverage. I would especially anticipate a Sneasel/Weavile and Tyranitar remake.
Always love LC coverage on this channel, it's such a unique and fun tier so I'm glad it has more recognition now. Surprising that this thing got actual usage in lower tiers for a while too.
Fun fact: during one of the Japan Pokémon day polls magnemite was one of the most voted pokemon during the poll due to becoming a meme in Japan for being spammed in GTS during B2W2
@@CubeBizz it was mainly for Joint Avenue grinding. Because magnemite was so easy to obtain due to its early availability and magnet pull people would both send and request magnemites. It was commonly referred to as “Magnemite Coil”.
Yep, fond memories of that. Lots of countries hopped on to various degrees. I was getting all sorts of Magnemites from different parts of the world. Sure, most from Japan or an EN speaking country, but many others too. Pretty sure I got one from Spain, for instance
The Magnemite line is one of my all-time favorite Pokemons. They're so reliable to use both in-game and in competitive. Shout outs to B2W2 where Magnemite is freaking early to catch and is one of the best in-game party members you can use.
Addendum: Magnemite has a niche in ADV ZU! It’s an okay special attacker that has a viable Subtox set. It’s got good utility as a status spreader with Thunder Wave and Toxic, where its immunity to the latter is useful for taking on popular Poison types like Dustox or Grimer. Magnemite also has a slight niche in BW ZU. Unique access to Magnet Pull means Magnemite can trap and remove Steel types Lairon and Pawniard with HP Fighting, but it has to be wary of Fighting and Ground coverage moves from most Steel types. In ORAS ZU, Magnemite reprises its role as a Magnet Pull trapper. Magnet Rise and optionally HP Fighting beat Klang, Superpower-less Lairon, Resting Bronzor, and Wormadam-Trash. Magnemite had ephemeral tiny niches in early stages of SS ZU, but it never really went beyond being a niche trapper or Analytic attacker. After the Crown Tundra released, Magnemite was completely dropped.
I barely ever even touch youtube, and this is probably the only channel i have kept up with... been watching since high school, I'm out of college now. I hardly even play pokemon anymore, these analyses are simply that good; i still like pokemon, ofc. Thank you FSG!
A number of videos have talked about how Game Freak tends to forget about certain Pokémon. The Magnemite line is not one of them; in fact, you could make a case for its debut generation being among the places where it's worst off. In Gen 1, it could only be found in optional areas--the Power Plant and the postgame-only Cerulean Cave. With Pikachu always available so early and a literal Electric-type legendary being available at the same time it first became available, it wasn't something you'd see on many in-game teams. In Gen 2, however, it was available quite early, being found west of Ecruteak City, home of the fourth gym. With many Steel-types being trade evolutions, chances are it'd be your first Steel-type--and if you were playing Crystal and the Odd Egg didn't become a Pichu or an Elekid, it'd be your first Electric-type, too, because the Mareep line was inexplicably removed. It was relatively late game, actually kind of mid, and again in an optional area in RSE, but just being in Ruby and Sapphire counts as showing it some love since the majority of Hoenn's Pokédex was newcomers. Diamond and Pearl, on the other hand, relegated it to postgame...but also gave it a new evolution, Magnezone, ensuring it wouldn't suffer the same fate in Platinum. Black and White had _all_ Pokémon from previous generations locked to the postgame, though Magnemite was at least among those that could be obtained in a postgame area rather than being forced to be transferred from a Gen 4 game...but B2W2 didn't take the same path, and unless you ran around in circles to get your Riolu to evolve, Magnemite was again going to be your first Steel-type option...showing up just outside the _Poison_ Gym. Yeah, that's just screaming "use Magnemite!" Gen 6 pushed it to fairly late, late enough that it was actually Magneton, not Magnemite, that appeared in the wild. A step back to be sure, but Gen 7 made up for it, pushing it to even earlier than it'd been in B2W2!
@@gregorymirabella1423 from that Magnezone got nerfed hard and can no longer trap defensive menaces like ferrothorn. Same with Magnemite and ferroseed(which is notably not LC anymore pretty sure)
This is going to sound weird how about how power creep has changed through the generations. When you get good Pokémon like metagross in rarely used that’s a big problem in my opinion.
I don't think it is power creep for your example with metagross, players have more options to fight it, and the meta right now around sun is the opposite than what metagross would prefer.
Other awesome memories of Magnemite. The fact that it almost always ran away from you in GSC, making it annoying to catch. Completely blanking Roxie in Black/White 2. And still being awesome in Sun/Moon.
@@gregorymirabella1423 It was one of the few Pokémon the Fast Ball (intended to have a higher catch rate on Pokémon that can flee in Gen 2) worked on due to a bug.
I was kind of expecting it to be a good Little Cup Pokémon but the fact that it was good enough in NU for it to get a gen 2 section actually surprised me also Gloom with its eyes open (2:33) is one of the more cursed things I've seen in Pokémon, right there with Snorlax with its eyes open
@@nerdstop5025 Just because it wraps it's wings around it in Stadium 1 and 2 doesn't automatically mean it's shut. Or does the mouth not open until after the wings sweep out of the way?
I think a fun idea for a video could be the most powercreeped or changed version of each tier between generations. For example, the most powercreeped generation of PU is definitely the change between Gen 6 and 7. It'd be fun to see the biggest change for each tier!
That's how you know this channel does everything. Not Magneton, not Magnezone, but Magnemite. They're going to get every single Pokemon eventually, and not just every evolutionary line
The Sparks Fly episode from the anime was my first ever encounter with the entire Pokemon franchise, it started a loving relationship that has been going for 25 years and still going strong :) it'll always hold a special place in my heart
that gen 8 magnemite set is awesome! it's not every day you see a new cheese tech that actually becomes viable from the fact that it's just genuinely good and useful, very cool to see.
If Magnemite had come out in Gen 5, everyone would hate it. And that's why I love it. It's just so unique and stands out so much among his peers in Gen 1. It definitely screams unnatural, but it's just the right kind of goofy to fit in Pokemon.
I always called my Magnemite Dipole. This Physics term means a pair of equal and oppositely charged or magnetized poles separated by a distance. So in other words, a perfect description of Magnemite. There is your physics trivia. Also here comes attempt number 4. *How Tyrannical was Tyranitar actually?*
@@thegoldenblock7906 maybe on PKShowdown, where players who dont expect it can face trouble, but in tournaments you might as well pick something else, considering the element of surprise is not really effective.
@@thegoldenblock7906 I never lose to these sets, all I need to do is throw in a poke with lefties or something then the fear mon just dies after getting statused Or I take advantage of them and use them to set up
Whenever someone tried to cheese me with it in PK Showdown, i just instantly used Knockoff. You know something is up when someone has a Lv1 Aron on their team.
Magnemite getting that steel typing really helped it remain viable much like Magnezone over the years. Trapping other OP Steels, in addition to versatility will never go out of style
I'm ranked 16 on the ladder right now for SS LC, and I've used Magnemite all the way. Magnemite is an amazing anti-sweeper, and checks Pokemon like Tyrunt and scarf Porygon. It even soft checks Natu, who can't ever kill it, because of endure always beating heat wave, and psychic always doing ~37%. The biggest issue is that Mienfoo's fake out breaks sturdy. Also, the trapper mag set is very uncommon. It was used for about a month, and then everyone knew about it, and were careful not to be trapped.
Fun magnemite fact: it is one of only 3 pokemon that actually has an increased chance to be caught in GSC with a fast ball (the other two being grimer and tangela) due to a bug
Curious to see how Magnet Pull will effect gen 9 as it will likely effect terra steel pokemon after their transform and give a fire move back to the magnets with terra blast fire. Just hatched a shiny Magnemite yesterday for a living shiny dex for PLA and for next gen since it is confirmed in, so perfect timing on video.
for the intros where we "remember" the showcased mon, magnemite for myself in particular i think about pokemon snap for sure. i loved how you had to interact with them to get them to stay in regular form and of course getting them to form into magneton too
I just love how some of the best Steel-type walls like Ferroseed, Ferrothorn and Skarmory, are nothing more than victims to the Magnemite family. So much so that their mere presence gave the Magnemite family small but invaluable niches.
I was so stoked when I randomly came across a Shiny Magnemite in Heartgold and of course it was Adamant because anything else is a thing of impossibility in the Pokemon world.
Magnemite and Magneton are my all time favorite pokemon because of that episode of the anime. The Muk scared me so bad when i was a kid so i loved it when the magnemites went against the Muk. They've been my favorite polemon ever since
I've & almost everyone never understand why Jasmine, the steel type gym leader from Johto use Two Magnemites instead of a Skarmory or Scizor, if it could easily use just one.
@@gregorymirabella1423 They wanted to make Jasmine easier than Pryce. It still didn't work because Steel is still so much better than Ice as a boss type.
@@gregorymirabella1423 But it's better than Steelix, let alone Pryce, at being an obstacle to story players, and Game FrEAk couldn't have that. If Jasmine was in a modern Pokémon game, her team would be a pile of tin cans and the now completely worthless Steelix, and you'd be forced to fight her by roadblocks made of whatever half-baked abomination they're trying to push as their latest merch bait before you were allowed to fight a Gym Leader that threw a dead duck in a fishing net at you and expected you to take him seriously instead of picking it up off the floor and smacking him senseless with it.
Cool design, great in playthroughs and also good competitively in a lot of formats... One of the most underrated lines in all Pokémon history... And look at that visual upgrade in S/V... Bro looks cool asf
August 16th of 2003, 1,364 days after the release of Gold and Silver, Magnemite and Magneton have existed as Electric/Steel Pokémon for longer than they have ever been pure Electric Pokémon since their debut on Red and Green. The dates for the Pokémon that chaged to Fairy in Gen 6 are: November 7th of 2016 for Cotonne and Whimsicott, October 29th of 2020 for Togekiss and Mime Jr, September 4th of 2024 for Azurill, Mawile and the Ralts line, September 5th 2027 for Igglybuff, Cleffa and the Togepi, Snubull and Marill lines and finally the 31th of May of 2031 for Mr. Mime, and the Jigglypuff and Clefairy lines.
Hehehe...about that... Imagine Terastalizing your Magnemite into a Flying type vs a ground type. Not only would it lose it's quad weakness to ground, it would get Flying type Tera Blast to slam its opponent with. OR If you Terrastalize your Magnemite into a water type while it's holding an air balloon vs a Ground type, not only do you force your opponent into using a different move to break the balloon, you have Water Tera Blast to deal super effective damage to your opponent.
Kellen I have a idea can you do a video talking about how handy were hidden abilities to some Pokémon(example crawduant with adaptability) and how there were uselless to some Pokémon(example Tyranitar with unnerve)
I find it very amusing that Magnimite went from "The thing that counters Ferroseed, it is what it is" to "If I even run Ferroseed I might just fucking lose"
I think Voltorb and Electrode are due for a remake. Primarily after Scarlet/Violet drops. They are rather straight forward in their niche (fast lead that can set up taunt, weather, screens or explode). Legends Arceus gave the Voltorb line nuclear powered grass stab moves while retaining it's excellent speed and movepool. I expect H-Electrode will be a viable mon in low tiers due to it's great dual typing and offensive movepool. The Magnemite line is incredible and one of the best designed lines of all time. Magnemite's evolutions finds viability in whatever tier they end up in which is a rarity for not just a evolved line but a Gen I pokes of all things. Steel/Electric is one of the best defensive types ever created. Magnezone will continue to do well in Scarlet/Violet due to it making full use of magnet pull and possibly terastalizing giving it immense utility.
Magnemite episode was my first episode of pokemon, AND my introduction into the franchise! I saw pokemon was a new series, and had to organise a sleep over at a friends house who had sky! Good times, before games released, cards released, and if was a new show
Gonna be interesting to see how the Tera mechanic shakes up LC in Gen 9, and how it'll affect the Magnemite line if Steel types can just use it to switch out
Kellen & co.? Could you please do a video on the basics of little cup? You've covered a few not-fully-evolved Pokémon so far, but I'm finding it harder to pick up the meta of little cup than conventional singles/doubles.
Magnemite can actually be a niche pick in higher tiers with Sturdy Juice as well. Admittedly, Taunt, Knockoff, and Hazards ruin it, but it can be a pain to play around since it can reuse Berry Juice to Toxic Stall or even just spread Paralysis using Thunder Wave.