Funny since Thundurus was once seen as a better Zapdos, though now because of how the meta has shifted Zapdos proves more useful for its defensive offensive move pool and utility.
Virgin Talonflame: •81 attack which sucks •126 speed to fly away from its problems •Gale wings to compensate for its lame attack •Spams brave bird in an attempt to do damage(requires boosting items) •OU in its debute gen but crap in the next one •turkey punk •only useful because of an ability that got nerfed in the next gen Chad Staraptor: •120 attack with reckless so that it’s moves can actually do damage(no boosting items required) •100 speed because it’s not some show off •UU BL every gen because it’s awesome •can use close combat and recoil moves because its willing to sacrifice itself for its team •best early bird Pokémon •terrifying bird of brey
Hi I'm from the future where we're in gen 79 and Primal Groudon is PU and the only Uber is Mega Ultra Primal Delta Arceus Omega Form & Knuckles. Staraptor is still BL.
my friends literally refuse to play rts games with me, once they finally agreed to play with me another time but secretly tried to 1v3 me and i still won so they never were up for it again.
Gen 8 update: In gen 8 Nat dex staraptor dropped to uu again. Staraptor was this close to staying in uu thanks to the additions of skarmory and celesteela who walled it completely and were metagame staples. Unfortunately magnezone dropped to uu and it immediately created a disgusting star-zone core that demolished every steel-type that gave raptor problems, thus getting its technical 4th UUBL placement as it was banned from UU national dex
@Jesus Renteria There were some that didn't really changed that much like Scrafty and Ursaring's but the rest are just... lackluster. Don't even mention the likes of Pelipper, Scraggy and Hydreigon's.
yeah too bad gamefreak gave it a 10 point sp.def boost instead in gen 6. It's a glass cannon thats either draining it's own health with recoil or dropping it's defenses.
I've always maintained that Talonflame was a lackluster bird who coasted by on such an amazing ability. Gale Wings Staraptor is scarier because it actually does have a good Attack stat, while Talonflame is outdone by freaking Doduo in that regard.
Gen 7 UU: Oh? You're approaching me? Even when we banned you since your debut Generation? Staraptor: I can't get out of BL without getting close. Gen 7 UU: Oh ho! Then come as close as you like. *Both menacingly approach each other* Brave Bird: ORA! Banhammer: *Pre-emptive ban* Gen 7 UU: Too slow, too slow! The Banhammer's speed and Power exceed your Reckless Brave Bird.
You know the whole ash said he would came back for pidgot is a dub only line.ash never said he would came back for pidgot in the original japan version
noa Kastle i haven’t dabbled much in gen 7 competitive battling so I wouldn’t know but I do think staraptor is the best regional bird in terms of design, move set and stats
@@purpleheartneptune6267 linking skulls together and then bashing them over and over so the opponents feel unimaginable pain, then after they've been broken providing a swift end with the help of a rock surpassing the sound barrier in speed.
With poor Staraptor being struck with the BL curse all of its career, we can all agree a mini-maxed Mega Staraptor could bring home the gold in OU, maybe even in Ubers.
120 attack is no joke. And OU is doable, but I'm not sure about Ubers' fast peace metagame tho. Cause you know, Mega Salamence, Blaziken, etc. Edit: I hate myself, I didn't see the word "Mega". Maybe it will
Gen 7: Staraptor: What do you mean I’m still in BL! I can’t be that strong anymore! UU: Naw dude, you can stay there. Metagross: Hey I’m in RU now! Staraptor: Can someone PLEASE give me a break here?
@@celestialudenburg3428 Competes with Mega Aggron, Cobalion, Bisharp, and some other Steels in UU. Metagross is good, it just can't compete with the other Steels in the tier.
The newest game is gen 90, pokemon foot and hand. Lando T is now in RU, Primal Groudon is in LC, Rampardos has been banned from Ubers from being too powerful, and Flygon received a mega and is now in OU. Staraptor is still in BL
@@belimvasim143 lots of things changed for it. 1. Toxapex and Ferrothorn don't exist to check it anymore. 2. It doesn't have to worry about having its fast attacker role be taken by stuff like Greninja, Tapu Koko, Dragapult, Kartana, and Sand Rush Excadrill, and Megas like Charizard Y or Swampert under Swift Swim, as examples. 3. Reckless gives it an extra boost to its power, allowing it to hit damage thresholds it couldn't before with Double-Edge and Brave Bird when it only had Intimidate. 4. Buffs to Rapid Spin and Defog make hazard clearing easier than ever, allowing Raptor to get in safer, and momentum switch moves aside from U-Turn exist now so it has even easier times than before, particularly pairing well with Rotom. 5. A last side but about Rotom, in addition to pairing well with it, the changes to the Rotom appliances to no longer be Ghost gives Staraptor an additional Pokemon to check and hit hard, no Rotom wants to get hit by a 252 EV+ Attack boosting nature Brave Bird, let alone Double-Edge.
Gen 9 Update : After a decade and a half of constant effort, Staraptor has finally been allowed into a main gen UU for the first time in its lifespan - and though it is not the world-beater it once was, it fits in very comfortably in the metagame as an excellent offensive threat that one needs to keep in mind for teambuilding, or else they will find themselves torn apart with only a little prediction. It took a long time, but Staraptor finally has a home.
pidgey should get the ability "adorable little fluffball" that does the same as intimidate only bc your opponent doesnt want to hurt a cute innocent bird
UU is terribly weak to flying/fighting. In fact a lot of things are.... The only reason talonflame wasn't OP is because fire/flying is easier to manage. If they gave Gale winds to staraptor in gen 6 it would have been in Ubers after the ONE THING that can tank it went (Aegislash)
They should add a move called “Hawk Dance” where it’s a physical type Quiver Dance, boosting your: Attack, Defense, and Speed. Staraptor would be a _POWERFUL_ candidate tbh
I think calling it Hawk Dance might be putting a bit too much bias on something that can be beneficial to not only staraptor, but it's still a good idea. Though, I can also imagine an ability that's like Gorilla Tactics, but it's a Choice Scarf. That would be cool.
I see what you mean by putting too much emphasis; however, we do have to take into consideration that Quiver Dance translates to “Butterfly Dance”- since there are Pokémon who aren’t based off butterflies that can learn the move. “Hawk Dance” can open viability doors for other bird Pokémon as well too- mostly the regional birds- allowing the lower tiered birds such as Unfezant, Dodrio, Toucannon, etc. to get more shine. Bird Pokémon have a reputation for not being the most viable anyways. An ability that’s like a choice scarf would be good too.
Lamier Anthony Okay, I can see your point. Though, the translated name doesn't exactly convey the English name, so it can be more generalized to allow more than just the birds to learn it. For example, calling it Whirl Dance or Flutter Dance could make it work on the Birds, but other fliers too through the name alone.
Best bird starting Pokemon* As the gen 7 rework of gale wings made clear, gale wings is an amazing ability strapped to what would otherwise be an ok Pokemon. I shudder at the thought of what staraptor could accomplish with it.
I imagine something like this. *Talonflame doing whatever* Gamefreak:Yeah, I think Gale Wing should be nerfed. Talonflame:Ou! What the hell?!? Why are you using a bug type move against me?!! *Switches to say umm anything that can outspeed Talonflame?" Talonflame: Interesting, *tries to use brave bird and falls out of the sky due to a spianed wing*
Talonflame needed Gale Wings and plummeted after the nerf, while Staraptor kicked tail no matter its ability. Personally I thought Staraptor was always better.
@@nightmarefalls4204 But again, STAB. Not to mention that adamant lucha is faster than jolly raptor. And now there's also Zapdos with the same speed as raptor, more attack and both STABs as well.
@@Rarest26 ,zapdos almost always runs a phys def set , banded raptor with reckless raptor 1 shots zapdos , hawlucha's attack is trash without swords dance
The real message of staraptor being uubl for so long is that the flying type has actually been sneakingly op ever since the beginning (especially physical ones). I mean looking at the current gen uubl list, we see things like salamence, dragonite, and gyarados. What do all of these mons have in common? The ability to abuse z bounce/fly after setting up a dragon dance or two and then nuking something with a high powered stab move with few resists, which can be easily accounted for with something like eq. The fact that flying coverage pairs so well with steel-killing coverage (eq z fly ddancers, staraptor`s cc, tornadus` focus blast/superpower) really speaks volumes as to how much potential the flying type has (as mega ray showed us a couple videos ago xD) Hell in gen 5 I believe tornadus incarnate apparently kept bouncing between uu and ou all because of that flying typing. Staraptor having essentially one of the best coverage moves to pair with it`s flying stab is what really makes it so strong, on top of it`s good attack and speed of course. Anyhow here`s to hoping the next gen can make the regional bird somewhat strong as well!
The year is 2100. Its generation 30 and Mega Rayquaza just dropped to untiered after its niche in PU was taken by Ultra-Primal-Alpha-Delta-Super-Mega Charizard. Staraptor is still in UUBL
OU: *exists* Staraptor, Mega Heracross, and Manaphy: Its been 4 years. We're tired of having other UU Pokemon join you guys for some battles in OU despite not being borderline. Hydreigon "A.K.A The Best Pokemon": Excuse me I got a match to join. Luckily I packed Flash Cannon to surprise Fairies. Garchomp: HURRY UP ALREADY! Hydreigon: Okay fine!
Staraptor has been one of my favorites since DPP. I've always had a softspot for early route pokemon and it was a joy to have one that was actually powerful all the way in the late game.
Virgin intimidate Staraptor - so weak, it needs to lower opponent's attack - doesn't power up signature move - boring, everyone runs it Chad reckless Staraptor - awesome name - strengthens self instead of weakening others, absolute chad move - sacrifices health to smash through opponents for his team, selfless
@@HardGuess There's a bulky Staraptor set for Normal Monotype teams. It having Intimidate, Roost, Defog and a neutrality to Normal's only weakness, Fighting, as well as a strong Flying STAB makes it very valuable for this team.
Imagine telling someone that this UUBL lifer would drop to NU for the first time in the same gen it dropped to RU for the first time. With Chandelure alongside it, no less, and possibly just being really good and not broken in the tier (Well yet anyway). Gen 9 powercreep is something alright.
One of my favorite mons to take into BSS! Reckless with Brave Bird, Double Edge, Close Combat, and U Turn. Double Edge mostly for electric types like rotom. Really fun to use!
The most awesome thing about Staraptor is that it still uses the same technique that he used back in his debut generation. Most Pokemon have to adapt to compete in the meta game.
My favorite pokemon of all time. My ace and pretty much starter (I was 8 and didn't know what release meant) in Pearl. My first level 100 and the Pokemon I always used to fight my little brother's ace (A level 100 WC Gastrodon). The pokemon who helped me beat Cynthia in Pearl, Cynthia in Platinum, and was traded to Heartgold just to fight and beat Red. My best friend.
in a non-competitive sense every route 1 bird has been kina disappointing since Staraptor Unfezant - felt like a lesser version of staraptor ( Still like it though) Talonflame- only good competitively cause of its ability but really just a more bulky Swellow on fire for everything else Toucanon- WHY DID MY FAST WOODPECKER TURN INTO A SLOW TOUCAN SAM!!!
Imo the best 3 Birdos were: Unfeazant, than Staraptor and the best (at least for me) is Pidgeot. I really like the Design of Toucannon but as you mentioned this thing is soooooo slow, even skill link doesn't make it better...
@@luisagerenaldo8294 Skill Link is useful for fast monsters to cause flinching when paired with King's Rock. Retarded Skill Link monsters benefit from Trick Room to be able to cause flinching. However, that's harder to pull off.
As much as I don't care about competitive pokemon, the simple fact that my favorite Pokemon of all time, Staraptor, has so much love and is fairly high in the system, along with the fact that it has reached high placements in many major tournaments, I am glad. Even defeating those dreaded Ultra-beasts I personally despise makes me smile. I am even replaying Pokemon Platinum and attempting a pure solo run with him, and even with the remakes for me to create a new team, I've given myself an exception to keep Staraptor on my team. Same goes with my starter, but that is because I always go Piplup in those games.
Next to Talonflame this bird is _baller._ Yea yea yea I'm one of THOSE trainers that prefers Talonflame over Staraptor but....god damn that bird is awesome.
Talonflame (HA) was OP. Priority brave bird with choice band, U turn, flare blitz. It could kill anything with 2 brave birds, it was banned in mono types due to one shotting anything not rock, then ability got nerfed. Talonflame Aka the janitor (may he rest in peace) was the best.
@@JesusPerez-yc6yu It a shame because Talonflame's HA never deserved to be nerfed since it could still be neautrilazed by the likes of Tyranitar and Gigalith.
False Swipe Gaming: And for once, I’m glad Game Freak actually makes the early-route birds useful, although Gen 6’s bird might have been overdoing it. Corviknight: Allow me to introduce myself.
Looking at 2021 mons uu list. Celestela, skarnory, and aegislash are your only safe switch ins for staraptor and it demolishes the rest of the metagame have fun! Note: skarmory recently moved up to ou.
Too bad Staraptor couldn’t have been the first three staged regional bird to break the normal/flying type mold by being fighting/flying, based on the Pokédex entries for Staraptor. But alas, Arceus wouldn’t bestow the honor until generation 6 with the fletchling family (fire/flying) and then generation 8 with the rookidee family (steel/flying).
The early route birds DEFINITELY need to be stronger. I mean, they're most likely going to be one of the first Pokemon a player catches, so why not give them something that's actually going to last them through the Elite Four?
Yep. Zubat is such a common find amongst many regions and fully evolves into a good Pokémon itself, so I've found the designated "early route birds" increasingly harder to justify a team slot on. Why grab a Pidgeot, Swellow, or non-Hidden Ability Talonflame when Crobat does their roles well enough?
