Why Pokemon's Newest Type is a Total Failure 

I do use stellar tera type, it does not actually suck. Just stellar tera type metronome, see how insane it is and you'll get me.

I honestly thought this was a couple-days-early april fool's joke because I've never seen it brought up and didn't play the DLC.

So you aren't getting it for what reason?

​@@lexruptor who, again, is here for competitive advice on the format no one plays?

@@lexruptor ah yes metronome the most reliable of moves ever.

They didn't call it a new type they called it a new tera type.

Ultimately its them trying to reinvent the Gigantimax hype which is just them copy-pasting Mega evolutions into Dynamax. Where even that goes as far to have some `special` dynamax moves and/or animations tied to them to add to the fluff bait when they either are gonna be wastefully stupid on asset recycling by getting rid of it by the next mainline game or just use it as a `testing grounds` to shove it back in later when they get to a certain remake and call it an alternate reality, just like how ORAS got mega evolutions because it was a different place from R/S to further get away with the whole rainbow rocket gag in US/UM. Im very sure plenty of people are just sick and tired of them constantly axing previous mechanics that may of been present for even less then a year for some of them, even having way too many pokemon that had to bank on the gimmick including older pokemon to boost them into relevanacy and constantly force players to abandon previous team comps, where they arent even hiding the fact they will drastically buff/nerf abilities/moves/pokemon each generation like its a MOBA, which further takes away the appeal of childhood favorites. At this point, Pokemon is the same as Yugioh in more ways then one, they try to huck in new gimmicks in so often, they get lazier with it that they ignore previous balancing reasons and break the game with the stuff they originally were against adding in. Thought since Pokemon would of likely hard-capped only having one specific gimmick avail to a player at a time if they actually LEFT the older gimmicks in, instead of removing them each version. It would of then result in players figuring out exploits with older gimmicks and newer pokemon that could ruin the game, especially the competitive scene when someone could take a particular pokemon, use a newer gimmick and then it turns them into a unstoppable beast that just sweeps everything. At this point, Pokemon just needs to `reboot` into a Classic generation where no more special state gimmicks are added in (basically would be like Gen 1 thru 4 for the most part) and kept vanilla and then have a different sub-generation where that one has all the gimmicks and just have it where the older gimmicks return via post-game completion to let the competitive players have freaking fun, just like how alot of the hand-held console games handled it with stuff like battle frontier and what not.

I mean, a one time buff to the move used, it's just a Z-move

@@lycrowkuratofor more than one move though.

Exactly - Stellar "type" isn't really Pokemon's newest type in the way the title and thumbnail imply, just a random gimmicky thing for the funzies, and it says that it's a "Tera Type" which means that it's only a type found in terastalization.

(And Megas)

@@littlefox_100 People don't lump Megas in with other regional gimmicks due to them appearing in 4 games over 2 generations. It was less of a gimmick and more of a proper mechanic that they decided to abandon.

@@SpadeDraco hmmm, oki

@@littlefox_100 Adding to this that the newer pokemon legends game will add or has teased Megas so they're bringing it back in some form

@@willphoenix5464 I know! I'm super excited! X was my first pokemon game and megas are the best, not to mention zygarde will finally get it's own game!

I feel / felt this so hard, I stopped playing Pokémon IDK how many gens ago. 3rd Gen was the last one I still enjoyed. All downhill from there on average. Refused ever using "Mega" because I could only see it for the gimmick it was. Soon after, refused to even play the new games. Now I'm here, wondering wth even HAPPENED to the Pokémon I used to love. No wonder Pal is where it is...

​@@BlackSun404gen 5 and 7 was peak wydm ?

@@BlackSun404 just because something is a gimmick doesn’t make it bad 😂 like I’m not excusing them removing stuff but almost every game has gimmicks

​@@normalperson7Gen 5 isn't perfect. It's a rough start playing Black/White with the forced tutorial, exp. reduction, no berry farming, & the useless C-Gear. As for Gen 7, that was when the Pokemon games were becoming severely unfinished like with Sun/Moon (Remember the huge data leak revealing cut walking animations including the Furret Walk?).

That’s me😅

I'm almost halfway through the video and I also thought it was an elaborate April Fools joke. I thought it was funny how elaborate he was being, throwing in so many different exceptions and rules.

Well, by the end of the day it's just an extra gimmick on top of the gimmick, from an optional dlc, not a real type, and as such it will be forgotten in the next game.

I just clicked to see what the type was and I'm not even disappointed anymore. The games fell off after gen 7, pokemon go is going down the drain, the original anime ended and it's clear the series is officially past its prime. It's sad to see as a former fan but at least Palworld opened the way for new entries in the genre and it's only a matter of time before something that can actually compete with pokemon releases.

@@Dorito_Djinn don't forget Subjectively's Enigmorphs :D

Bro it took me way too long to realize you said "wasn't" not "was" and I was Googling trying to find the article about the joke and realized it was real.

The incineroar we did nothing to ban along the way

Until we saw he had high speed IV's and Blaze

​@@domenichughes7792 The Insineroar they Boosted along the way

_STELLAR FAKE OUT INTENSIFIES_

Darkest stellariat: deals damage to the opponent on the other side of the screen irl, ignoring any stat changes

Poor marketing

Yep, at least mega evolutions felt connected to the rest of the mechanics

​@@jlGenozzVNah, megas started this cancer trend of gimmicks. People give it a pass because some megas looked cool, but let's remember it started with them.

​@@artur6912yes, but the real problem was when SuMo didn't add any new ones and pushed them to post game "just because". Honestly, I wouldn't mind having a new gimmick if they double down and make it a new staple mechanic. Breeding and Doubles were originally gameplay gimmicks themselves, but GF kept those. Why not the same for battle gimmicks? That would help more people actually care about them.

@@Jw87563 They didn't put any new ones because it requires relatively way more effort than other gimmicks and they put them in post game to not overshadow Z. It was probably that experience that made GF make all subsequent gimmicks available to all mons, not make special designs (excluding gigantamax) and abandoning them for the next thing in the next game.

@@artur6912 megas could easily have been made available for all mons anyway by making a "generic" mega stone that gives a flat 20+ stat boost except HP and changes nothing else mechanically. Visually, it could have the Totem aura to show it changed and it would take your mega slot. That, and since GF was inevitably going to get to the point where it's not feasible to include every single mon, they could easily shuffle around what megas are actually available every gen as well. The generic stone would of course be a constant so GF doesn't necessarily need to give a mon a mega, but still let it participate and leave room for a possible true mega in the future. A true mega would be the more drastic and "optimized" form while the generic stone is more of a stat pump to help out mons who are _almost_ good or need that small nudge to be usable. That, and it could actually be more helpful than their actual megas. Heck, Mega Chomp was worse than normal chomp because of the speed drop, so the generic stone would have a niche.

@@TheNamelessOne888 And i thought Rockstar Games was bad

Like guides didn’t exists smh

I don't understand how you wouldn't understand it. It's get the thing, go to the top of that mountain and fight God.

But why is it still in the game then but as a "mysterious gift"? Or am I mistaken the Arceus battle with something else?

No your right. It was simply easier and cheaper to keep the item out of the region than to recall all the games, reprogram them, and send them back out. The only legitimate way to get the azure flute is if you had a Japanese version and went to one of the few occurring events that it had in Japan.

When I first saw this in my recommended I was like. Okay. There is no way this isn't an april fools video. 1.4 million views later I am here, regretting not keeping up with pokemon.

Wait, are we still talking about Pokémon, or is this a Marvel thread now?

@@captainrocket9915 lol marvel is up there but pokemon is literally the biggest entertainment franchise in history.. by a significant margin.

​@@captainrocket9915 biggest franchise ? Isn't that more than enough to know what we are talking about You need those pokemon schools Roxane runs Learn

I'm a Halo, Senran Kagura and F-Zero fan. Trust me, I know.

Wow, that's pathetic.

Game Freak being very good at programing design.

Hey it’s either that or Ivy Cudgel

@@frownyclowny6955 True, that move is pretty bonk-ers

Sometimes you get Ivy Cudgel and sometimes you get Tera Starstorm what can you say.

Nice one lol

Serp fans have been eating good from this dlc

Second that since Quagsire raids despise Serperior completely checking it, especially if Logan is in the party to check Yawn and Toxic whenever it uses Safeguard, also don't forget Enamorus & Malamar as fellow Contrarians.

idk man even serp i feel prefers a defensive tera like fire or something to let it live a hit and get the +2. Stellar is good for the choice scarf/specs set but in general they are worse than the leftovers/subseed sets.

​@@politoed06yeah, this is the realistic take. Not even the contrarians want it

So they made a problem and then made a feature to solve that problem. They could have just not made the problem in the first place.

@@moosecannibal8224 Tera Raids isn't a problem. They have good difficulty in the 7* raids events. DLC users can do it more easy. It's like... pay 2 easy.

Indeed, all of the 'mons I converted to Stellar are for Raids, and figured their natural types were good enough for what they were intended for.

​@@jamonero tera raids are bugged, that is the problem

@@nerdyfalco408 Yeah exactly, the concept of a tera raid doesn't sound bad, it's just how it was implemented causes a problem. They could have just not implemented it that way.

...Gamefreak probably would say that...

@@youtubeuniversity3638 that is to true I also hate that you brought that bad juju out into the world

@@ajbeasley2771 Blame Gamefreak man.

Given many megas have new typings and abilities and the fact megas were taken out while the base form remained Yeah they aren't the same

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truly a "what did he mean by this" moment

Hearing that statement cut right through my defenses, but upon listening to it a second time, it didn't hurt as much. 🙂

@@snes90 the first time, it was à crit

@@emdal4055 I've just encountered the youtube version of "why is this hidden in the notes this needs to be seen"

The fun part is they actually establish in the dlc how terastalization can be ported to other regions; compared to SwSh where they made it pretty clear dynamax can only happen in Galar So yeah probably wont be back in gen 10 knowing GF but they definitely left the door open to reuse it in the future

@@GameGodZERO Well, Megas are able to be used in different regions and they were still cut, so I doubt Tera will return, especially when considering how less charismatic it is.

@saltator8565 dunno what you mean "less charismatic" in this context And like I did say they probably ditch Tera in gen 10, because they cant help themselves but make something new that's inevitably worse than the prior gimmick. But they left room to be able to bring it back at some point if they want. Unlike Dynamax they specifically wrote in the region lore to only be possible in galar as it deserves. And quite frankly Terastal has been the only good new gimmick they've made since Megas so it getting replaced by something god awful most likely will be depressing for sure

@@GameGodZERO Mega Evolution has been a much more popular and well received concept by Pokemon fans

not by the competetive community for example. But yea Mega pokemon where removed because they brought a lot of problems with them. Considering Terastralization is the first time the regional gimmic is without problems, there is a chance it might be here to stay in some shape or form.

Yup, it's just confusingly named for what it really is.

Ogerpon without its special forms is still a very solid pokemon Terapagos will just be shit.

I agree with Ogerpon being solid even without its form changes. For Terapagos, they have a few options, but they seem less likely to do anything meaningful. They could make a held item that replaces his tera-forms stat buffs. They could also recode his signature move to be like the tera-form version all the time. It might also depend on the current gimmick. Whatever Big Pikachu comes up with next might buff Terapagos more than expected.

Ogerpon's masks will function just fine without terastalization. Terapagos might just not come back though.

@@luizfelipevbf5567 Atleast Terapagos is cute... Ok, I just need an excuse to not feel ripped off yet again with the Pokemon DLC.

To be fair, the wolves are still relevant despite there not being gigantimax. Who knows?

So he's calling us a total failure?!

If you comment within one hour like we did, then it isn't about you

Just passing by to say your avatar is great.

Yeah, we all know regular humans are normal type

@@actuatioN352Not that we all can deny and be correct though.

Or treat the Stellar type as the 19th type and not a part of the terastalization gimmick that it is.

WTF is a "Tera-type", bro. I'm old, I was born in the 90s. I gave up on this video's first 5min, because I don't even get the basics of what he's talking.

​@@Rodrigo_Vegaso in the new pokemon games you can do something similar to mega-evolution where your pokemon changes its type. The type it changes to is freely choosable, for example you could make pikachu become a fire type. Also similar to mega-evolution: only usable once per match

​@Rodrigo_Vega It's when you parallel summon a new Beyblade from your Digivice.

@@zozzinator I guess that's like a single-use item or something?

@@Rodrigo_Vega in theory yeah, but activating it doesn't waste a turn and there are no activation requirements

they may not break it, but they are incredibly strong. looking at the culprits that are raging bolt and archaludon

they are strong, but I have the feeling that powercreep this generation was relatively low. I may be totally wrong on this, people always tend to point tmat previous OU staples dropping tiers like crazy, but to me it feels more like a shuffle, where there are winners and loosers of the new mechanics and meta. I mean we have seen a lot of previously "meh" pokemon getting some time in the light and I feel there is still plenty of old pokemon being relevant.

@@hamdepaf6686 In singles at least (with the whole dropping tiers thing) there are many, many more losers than winners this gen mostly due to this being the first mainline game where movesets didn't transfer and so a lot of mons lost their old staple moves (Defog, Roost, Heal Bell, Toxic to name a few). That combined with an absolute slew of new mons with high BST and great abilities + moves has made for an insane generation powercreep wise

I felt this way with kitakami, but there are so many good mons in teal mask that I skipped reg F

​@@hamdepaf6686 i KNOW you did not just try to say gen9 didn't have powercreep. Possibly the worst take i have ever heard.

Im out of the loop, what are the multipliers

@@glurak8881.2x on moves you’re not the same type of, but only once per type.

Agreed, mixed attackers are the obvious candidates here but having one maybe two strong move and 2 or 3 less strong moves kinda sucks.

@@glurak888 more or less 1.5 for a non-STAB move and 2x (including STAB) for a same type move for normal terastalisation, for stellar type tera 1.2x for non-STAB moves 1.7x for same type moves but you can only get that boost once per usage of a move of that type

@@felixhenson9926 This sounds like the jankiest attempt to try out Shadow Type again but balanced, except that instead of balancing the boat they managed to Titanic it and now it's sitting there with half of it sticking vertically out of the water as everything falls out of it.

I’ve never heard of Ogerpon’s masks boosting damage to all its moves

@@flopps1051Look it up. The Heartflame, Wellspring, and Cornerstone Masks have that effect, probably to compensate for how they take up the held item slot

@@flopps1051 it's to compensate for not being able to hold an item. The base form of ogerpon doesn't get this boost because it can hold an item

surperior is sad

Percentages are better tho? Getting exact numbers helps those who want to know the full idea whereas those who don't care about the exact numbers won't care if it's in fractions or percentages.

@@yimkumerjamz1225 we can do both for those who want either

yeah especially for a mon like arceus

Yeaaaaa true

Same.

And it always hits super-effective.

so it's a gimmick for a gimmick for gimmick made for raids designed around these gimmicks

Not yet... but i will!

I am😊

It this is so like a 2024 comment get with the timez old man.... we're in 6969

This comment is going to be wild in 32 years. Which will be crazy coz I'm making this comment as a 32 year old. Let's all check in then.

… what?

Glass Cannon goes brrr

No, y'all just can't read apparently. They specifically said new tera type in just about every press release on it.

It's more like the tera equivalent of Behemoth Blade, I.e designed to counter any user of the games gimmick

​​@@MaximusChivus blatantly untrue as they claimed it was the 19th type. I remember they said it in an pokemon news teaser thing on their website

To be fair gmax is a new form and unique moves. It just so happens to also be big. But I think it's worth not putting gmax in garbage tier like stellar is

It said “19th Tera Type” so the one your responding to is correct.

That really goes to show how much if a flop it is

Whoa

I knew it existed and totally forgot it was a thing

yeah i played didnt realise it exised until looking at terapagos summary its not that tied to the dlc which is pretty good tbh

If I was a gym leader I'd have a stellar type gym team 😍

@@foolishlysnowyi was gonna ask how cause only 1 tera per battle but i assume your love for tera is so strong u bypass the limitations of tera to tera every pokemon possible

Strong Tera Types. Weak Tera Types. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.

​@@lumpytoad1357absolutely correct. This is what I always say. My favorite types are steel, fairy, water, and fire. I am very brave

@@yonkodudeThey’re the first gym leader, and they just have 1 Pokémon that always teras turn one

Thankfully, that's not in the game. Terra Electric with an Air Balloon would make it impossible to hit with any damaging move. ofc status like Burn / Poison still work, and Hazards as well.

honestly I would just run it in the back, wipe out any electric mons, and then side para your own saftey googles shedinja for the win@@PokeMasrerJ

​@@PokeMasrerJ oddly enough, tera stellar would be a check to tera electric shedinja w/ air balloon, as you'd be able to hit it with tera blast stellar (since it's super effective on terastelized pokemon)

@@XenoTheTurtle oh yeah. True

@@PokeMasrerJ And Sandstorm. Any form of passive damage takes out Shedinja instantly.

yep

ONE HOUR GANG

Like beggar. Delete your comment

2 min

Amem

I like this idea. It would give it so balance.

I like this idea. You having to use different types before getting the boost can help.

Opened the comments to post the exact bit about raids and contrary. It honestly feels like that’s the only point of the Stellar Tera currently.

If your second proposal went through, pretty sure National Dex AG would be plagued by Tera Stellar Choice Band Tera Blast Shedinja. Eh... I think I'm leaving Tera Stellar as a pure offensive boost.

@@HappyGick I will be completely honest: I always forget about Shedinja lmao, good catch

I like contrary mons for stellar, the catch from tera blast becomes a buff, kinda cool

Is it?

​@@pepperypeppers2755Fairy is really good.

​@@uknownhero2764there's a difference between been really good and broken.

​@@austinrivers5088Right. That was an understatement, my bad. Fairy is one of the best types, if not THE best, in the series. When they wanted to nerf Dragon types... they ended up creating a second Dragon type.

@@uknownhero2764 not really? Steel and Fire were hard buffed by Fairy, so honestly it isn't that big of a deal. Steel type is by far the best defensive type right now, meanwhile Fairy is a strong type with good offensive and defensive power. Steel hitting fairy super-effectively is a massive achilles heel for fairy types, since steel types are very common. Dragon was a powerful type because it had great defensive utility (similar to normal), but also because many of the best pokemon in the game were dragons at the time. Fairy is just a strong type, I would argue it isn't the best offensive or defensive type. It's just a good type, similar to fire or ground. Where fairy really shines is the pokemon it gets attached to tbh.

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Report him immediately how dare he get that wrong

Nerd

He can't keep getting away with it

Time dilation moment

Stickmaster detected

I honestly think they should have just buffed ice instead of adding fairy.

​@@alphacraig4784Why do you say that?

@@spreadwuvokay Because ice is weak as hell in the current and old meta and Ice is super effective against dragon. Buffing it a bit would have been better than adding fairy and making it super busted

@@alphacraig4784 Tbf ice is mostly trash as a defensive type, which for some reason gamefreak has an obsession with. Most fast/ high attack ice mons have been meta defining in the gen they were introduced at. I feel like its fine to have types that are very good offensively like ice and types that are very good defensively like steel, but then you actually have to play into the strenght of the type and not release the 50th slow bulky ice type.

@@PigeonOfTheAbyss i mean yeah definitely. Most dragons were also double weak to ice and all it needed as a buff imo tbh is an ice type quick attack tbh

MILF

The algorithm cares

One hour club, hey oh!

I was curious if maybe anyone else was also watching in 2024 tho

​@@lumpytoad1357why would you get curious about that?

one slight counterpoint here is that the Dragon type itself wasn't what was powerful, it was the pokemon that happened to be Dragon type. for a long time (gen 5 was the first point where they started to move away from this but it really increased once we hit gen 6, by which point Fairy type had already been added) Dragon type was basically reserved only for pseudo-legendary and legendary pokemon (from gen 1 to gen 5 the only dragon type pokemon that weren't legendary or pseudo-legendary were Kingdra (gen 2), Vibrava, Flygon and Altaria (gen 3), Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, and Druddigon (gen 5). 8 pokemon split between 5 evolution trees), pokemon which naturally tend to be on the more powerful side of things. offensively Dragon type has always been pathetic. it's only strong against other Dragons, it's resisted by Steel, and since Fairy's introduction it's had no effect on Fairies. defensively it wasn't exactly a type to write home about either. 2 weaknesses (itself and ice), 4 resistances (fire, water, grass, and electric), 0 immunities. Dragon type was nothing special, it was just slapped onto a lot of very special pokemon, even now it's still primarily slapped onto naturally stronger Pokemon that would probably do just fine without it (one could even argue that since Fairy's introduction many of those strong Pokemon would be better off without the Dragon typing).

@@Eclipsed_Embers Dragon was always a really, really good type by resisting four of the most common special attacking types (okay, three common plus my personal favorite, Grass) and only having two weaknesses (itself and Ice). Give typical early game fodder like an early bird, three stage rapid evolve bug, or regional rodent the Dragon type and even with the same low BST it's better than it'd have been as bug, normal, or flying type because dragon is just a better type than normal outside of Gen 1. Dragon needed a hard counter, because Dragon type attacks were almost never resisted (Steel types only). Between being neutral offensively, lots of powerful moves from gen 3 onward, and being a defensive juggernaut only outpaced by Steel and Ghost, Fairy was a necessary addition to the game.

Well yeah pretty reasonable, or honestly you can go the other way and make the values extreme so it's a hail Mary one use type of effect. Not to the level z moves were, but enough for it to at least be anti terra tech (which it kind of if you squint hard enough already is)

Another possibility would be to keep the messy "loses the stellar boost when used in Stellar mode", but to TRANSFER IT to defense: you lose the offense of that specific type, but you gain defense on said type in exchange. It'd mechanically work similar to Kecleon's Color Change or the Porygon line's Conversion(2), with the extra type boost transferring from attack to defense when you attack with it. You'd still lose the attack boost, but gain something to make up for the loss. Possibly could also have like... being hit by a type you have that's "stellar-defended" flipping it back to the attack boost instead of the defense one, which would make multi-hit attacks get through stellar-boosted defenses, since the first hit triggers the swap, and you get un-defended damage for the rest of the chain. (though that part would definitely need more finagling)

Maybe give it a very small resistance to all types or alternatively give it resistance to tera boosted moves.

@@neoqwerty Super late but Yeah. However then top tier get more annoying, since they get a defense boost on top of blowing you back out if they played right Not to mention the typing would make super effective moves impossible on said mon. Plus getting the right type of moves to actually use said defensive option is a headache to luck dependent at the worst. Would lead to wackier combos, but overall not significant enough i don't think.

Not going to lie. That aged me quick too

It has actually been 11. It came out in 2013

Pokemon is older than most of the people who play it.

@@kyleellis1825I’m sure everyone knows that lol but there’s definitely a whole generation of people that remember it getting added when they were younger and just havent actually thought about how long it’s been since then

yes pls!!!!

Yea and let smergle learn it again

@@absolutecoolguy4290 nah

Nightmare is a terrible move. Giving up a slot for fixed damage whenever you could just like attack the mon that's asleep is NOT worth

@@Anomalocaris98 Yeah I know 😅

Gengar having Levitate never made any sense though. That thing clearly stands on the ground.

I mean, Tera Stellar contrary Mons are usually pretty niche, outside of a defensively built Serperior I don’t see any real Pokemon who’d be able to use it without using Skill Swap Malamar

​@@kirbykraftgamesenamorous.

Cause there’s only like 3 contrary mons worth a damn, and even then only two are what most people would consider “good”

No amount of Draco Meteor can hit me, because I'm a Fairy type.

Cool for raids tho

@@Kingnothing7x real

Enamorus-I as well - mostly cause it’s a mixed attacker