Very bad researched, biased video. Hailey is also not a celebrity and you didn't dig deeper into WHY people actually dislike her and threw Selena Gomez into that. Hailey is a mean girl, the home wrecker and a stalker. And will always be known only for that! People who defend her are actually worse than her
I feel like it's also odd that, if you support Selena so much, you would continue to try and keep her connected to this guy she dated years ago, especially when it was an emotionally abusive situation. Like who would want to be connected to their ex in this way?
OMG YESSS I'm a Selena fan and I want to roll my eyes when I see people wanting thhis two back together. Being a fan of someone is not owning that person. Let people live their lives aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I don’t think we need to point out the irony of Jefferee Starr saying “we Stan Selena in this house, not mean girl bullying” but I’m laughing my ass off abt it
Selena also eggs on her audience (intentional or not, I'll assume it's not) by commenting under videos saying "I love you" to someone calling Hailey "disgusting" and a "nepotism baby". She is 100% a nepo baby but Selena had to of known that doing this would rile up her fans. Also during the Sofia Richie thing Selena justified her fan's hate towards Sofia by saying something along the lines of 'what do you expect, you post your girlfriend online, maybe keep those moments private if you don't want this'. This blames Justin and Sofia for posting online rather than the fans who were sending threats to Sofia. She ended her messages with "all love" but it didn't negate what she said. Her fans probably have that same mindset of victim-blaming now with Hailey.
@@destituteanddecadent9106Yes I'm aware I just pointed out that I feel like Selena uses her "kindness" to victim-blame and that I believe her fans adopted that mindset using the two video examples lol just adding an opinion to the video it's the comments section.
@@lind12345 technically it's ephebophilia (EDIT: I originally erroneously wrote pederasty cuz I thought they named the paraphilia after the Greek practice I first found out about it from, but I was clearly wrong), but otherwise absolutely agreed
The only thing that's truly creepy about this is that there's a whole bunch of people who are so invested in the relationships of strangers. I don't really understand the obsession with celebrities.
it's super para-social but this is what happens when you publicize someone's life and make the general public believe that you are part of their life. If they left JB and Gomez alone after they peaked this wouldn't even be an issue.
issa cycle of infatuation. you listen to an artist and you get obsessed with them, go dive into their discography and watch interviews about them and it never ends. esp with actors. you see them in a dope role / film and you find them attractive / think they played the role so well that you get so interested in them. but yeah. they’re not our friends . they don’t know us. “Sorry if you gotta dig for info I don't wanna give So you stalk, make up fibs, just to talk about my private life 'cause you're weird (Uh) Met that girl this year (but), that's none ya biz Give enough with my art, know your place My personal space, y'all don't need to to be a part” - tyler , the creator
Yeah, I really wish people would stop making such big issues out of any and everything celebrities do. I invested my time and energy in celebrity gossip when I was in my teen years, but I didn't know any better at that point. As I got older, I started to realize it's so pointless and such a waste of time to even read articles about celebrity feuds and whatever else. I can't imagine taking time out of my day to post hate comments or create videos/tiktoks perpetuating rumors and negativity. That has to be so draining.
I'm old enough to remember when the Selena and Justin's relationship got public, how the Bieber fans were hating on Selena for "stealing their boy". This makes this whole behaviour / actions of the fans even more pathetic and ironic.
For reeeeal. It's so bizarre because Selena got basically this exact treatment years ago for daring to date Justin Bieber. Now Hailey's getting it because "omg if it wasn't for Hailey he'd still be with Selena." The lesson we should take from this is that just no one should date Justin.
Yeah and she got massive heat because everyone was suggesting that she groomed him because of the age difference when in reality he lied about his age and wasn't as young as he said he was.
Typical of the genreation that has gotten way more narcissiric traits in general bvs of growing up in social media. Lets ignore the bad I do - bash everyone else online. 0 realistic self reflection.
@@bishielurferlesson you should take from it is that NO MATTER WHAT there will always be someone who dislikes it. And if you put it on internet for the world to see or are a global celeberty - you will ofc get more reactions good & esp bad.. You CANT make everyone happy bcs we all have different oppinions.
@CatVonBee it's so true...I feel like every girl that dates or marries Justin Bieber will be hated period, when you think about it there is no other reason for hating these girls. If Hailey and Selena never had anything to do with him say dated just ordinary guys or just guys that are not celebrities no one would care about them I promise.
In a world where everyone preaches "mental health" and feeling sorry for Britney and how the media treated her. It absolutely disgusts me how people are acting like absolute hypocrites. These two woman are grown adults, everyone thinks pitting both is acceptable. Shame on the media and the devoted Selenators for encouraging this behaviour. Thank you for making this video and not making it one sided how some Tiktokers are playing the narrative. Btw I love Selena and Hayley, they are two gorgeous ladies who seem genuine and mean no harm. lets do better
Tbh I find soo much shit hypocritical nowadays, this person said a slur 10+ years ago they never deserve another chance which is up to an individual but that's the majority's opinion, but they support pedos like James Charles... They claim Hailey is a bully and evil person, then they say she deserves SA, should end her life, and harass tf out of her. They say Hailey doesn't deserve a man who has shown signs of emotional abuse in both of his most "famous" relationships because she did some petty shit...
Probably because people know Britney is an actual talented person instead of nepo baby? Hailey being a rich and well off person doesn't help either, that's always a point people look before thrashing someone
@@firstnamesurname2482 thanks for proving EVERYONE s point!!!! Move on they all clearly have Selena’s in a new relationship with her new Bo people will never stop hating on Hailey because she actually accomplished something most fangirls only dream of! Love her or hate her I’m sure she hates you as well
It's amazing to me that it's been 24 years since Fight Club came out and this quote is still relevant: "We're consumers. We are by-products of a lifestyle obsession. Murder? Crime? Poverty? These things don't concern me. What concerns me is celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guys' name on my underwear...it's all going down, man!"
Yeah... it's weird reasoning to say that his commenting on it would only amplify the situation, how much more could it be amplified? Everyone was talking about it, and his not commenting just made it seem like he didn't care how his wife was being viewed publicly.
i find it so interesting how people are bullying others to express how they hate bullying, theres a huge difference between holding somebody accountable and harassing a person
A lot of people are justifying their vitriol by: «they did it first»or «its okay to bully bullies» like no bullies have often been bullied themselves, lets not contribute to the cycle
Hailey’s g tattoo stands for Georgia. Chad Veach’s daughter. She is really sick and he had a whole thing going on with the letter G. Lots of friends of his got it tattooed. (:
Exactly even Justin got a G tattoo and the father of the girl said he couldn't go in church session without people showing him the G tattoo in honour of his daughter
And most of those "Hailey wore this to copy Selena" outfits are Hailey wearing them first But Selena's fans would never give you the dates cause it'll make their argument crumble
It is crazy we live in a time were social media has bridged the gap between celebrity and normal people. I can’t imagine having the amount of hate directed towards you as some of these celebrities
@@beiger2227 Yeah I love how in my childhood celebrities seemed so unreachable and very private. The times where your career was over when controversial shit came out and building a career on being controversial wasn't really possible.
@@alexterieur8813 I'm sure she deals with a few regardless unfortunately. That said, having a narcissistic mother myself, I am so sorry you're going through that. I hope you're able to find a way that works for you in dealing with them, even if that's a different job. If you haven't heard of grey rocking, it's the best way I've personally found for dealing with narcissists so I suggest looking into it.
One thing I’ve found strange in all of this is how SO MANY, soooooo so many people act like they KNOW Selena. Like this is their bff and they know who she is and her character off camera. Social media has lead to a lot of really unhealthy parasocial relationships where people really believe they know these celebrities. We don’t. We never will. But people go to bay for her like she’s their childhood friend
Parasocial relationships can really rot your brain if you don't get a handle on them. Like, I've heard so many stories of people actually meeting their idols and completely embarrassing themselves because they act overly friendly and cross boundaries. In their heads they're bffs with their favorite celebrity/influencer when in reality the person had no idea they existed until just then.
there’s a line that people seem to jump right over. i actually like selena gomez but i don’t understand why everyone is acting as if she’s perfect and done no wrong. she has. she’s done a lot wrong in fact. we’re all human and we all make poor decisions but it’s weird how nobody seems to afford that kind of forgiveness to anyone who isn’t their “fav”. it’s weird. you would think selena resurrected from the dead or something.
@@А.П-ъ7е someone asked her to speak out about the BLM movement and George Floyd and her response was pretty tone-deaf. something along the lines of “tweeting won’t do anything. you have no idea what i do” very defensive response when she could’ve just shown support to the people affected by it. i know a lot of people also criticize her for how she handled the whole kidney situation, which i’m not going to criticize her for simply because her health is none of my business but, it definitely rubbed some people the wrong way. she’s human. i just think it’s weird how people put her on this pedestal.
Yeah like the way she treated her friend that gave her the kidney… I’m like Selena us not perfect. Then watching SLOANS video on Selena and Justin , where she had an alcohol and drug problem. She isn’t as “perfect” as all her fans think. Her PR team is incredible. No one is that perfect and sweet all the time. Humans are flawed. Should we shame Selena for it.. no. But to say she is free of any mistakes, or she’s never been “mean” before is just not true.
Her mocking Selena's weight gain, fat shaming Selena essentially, by saying this is a punishment from God, tells you everything you need to know about her. The weight gain was a side effect of Selena's medical treatment apparently.
@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iuhow dumb are u? there was NOTHING in hailey’s video that indicates it was about selena, she used a popular tiktok sound and the world doesnt revolve around selena
I don’t like Hailey but like public enemy #1 should have been Justin the fact that Justin has faced like minimal backlash while literally pitting women against eachother FOR YEARS
Why would either three be blamed when all three went through their own abuse from the ADULTS who should have been protecting them!? They were all manipulated into a love triangle, and we ALL know how disgusting they treat children and young adults!!!!
Beaver seems to have been molested, since he was in the lions den. Guy has enough problems, hopefully his marriage gives him structure for the hard days.
Honestly, them admitting how hard marriage is and also sharing that they went and got help is very adult and speaks volumes of the comittment they actually are willing to make.
I think people always take a negative stance when people say that marriage is difficult. That first year of marriage can be one of the hardest for most people. We are just living with our partners for the first time.
I feel like reasonable adults would know that marriage is hard before getting married. It’s like educating kids ya know ; if you think raising children is easy then maybe you shouldn’t raise children.
Eh, it's very common in Christian circles specifically to spout "marriage is hard." For lots of people, who have known each other a while, and lived together beforehand, it's really no different.
first year of anything, friendship, relationship or marriage should be a honeymoon phase. if it's so hard to maintain it so early on, RUN! you're not a good fit.
I love that you’ve taken the view of looking more into why Justin may be the problem and we shouldn’t be pitting the two women against each other who just fell in love with the same person. I feel sorry for both Hailey and Selena. Hailey will never outshine Selena or the relationship she had with Justin and that must be hard to deal with. Most people couldn’t endure what celebrities deal with so they’re actually both incredibly strong women
From what I’ve seen, he made mistakes when he was young but so I have i if I had all the attention on my life that he’s had someone would’ve assassinated me by now. with all the paparazzi and attention he gets I both understand and could never fully understand the effect it has on him but he seems like a decent guy overall. and that’s coming from someone who was part of the “every 14 year olds biggest enemy” group. It seems to be the fans that are the biggest contribution to all this. but I just started the video and I have no idea what’s going on apart from tiktoks saying disgusting shit about the women so I don’t know what he’s actually done
Please watch Selena Gomez is messy. Also exposingsmg Selena Gomez. She's kuku. oUtShInE tHe rElAtIoNsHiP The only people obsessed with that fail relationship are selenators and Selena herself.
@@DW51380 yeah very good point! I totally agree, the fans definitely seem to be the biggest contribution. I feel sorry for Hailey, Selena and Justin to be fair. This was the just first time I’d seen someone look into it including Justin instead of just focusing on Selena and Hailey which I thought was a good take on things. I don’t necessarily think it’s Justin fault either especially for the hate Hailey gets and I completely understand why he doesn’t publicly defend her as it’ll cause more rumours and talk. Like you said, if we were all in the public eye when we were young, most of us did a lot worse than Justin in our teens and early 20s 😂
@@Tayxox this is probably the only situation I’d see this being positive in this coming from celebrities if they can actually ignore the “fans” and just laugh at the fact they give them free money. but as I’ve learned from my friend that’s a girl, that’s much easier for a man to do than a woman as a woman’s life heavily influenced by their image, reputation, dignity and perception wether that’s internally or put into them by others so I do really hope their mental health is okay as those two have some of the most ruthless shit I’ve ever seen said on the internet said about them and I’d be someone you’d consider to be edgy. And like you said he doesn’t defend her but there’s videos of him speaking about her very respectfully, and as a man seeing how most men talk about women. he seems like he does care and have a good heart. But at the same time we don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors he could be helping or making it 10 times worse we wouldn’t know
37:47 okay, but to be fair if the dates are correct that means Hailey wore it first. It's a really common fit though so I believe no copying was done on either part here. I also adore how you just let your son do his thing without telling him to get out or get angry that he interrupted you.
Her mocking Selena's weight gain, fat shaming Selena essentially, by saying this is a punishment from God, tells you everything you need to know about her. The weight gain was a side effect of Selena's medical treatment apparently.
@@TryingToWakeUp-qb7iudo you have any evidence of her mocking Selena's weight gain?? Or do you just spam the same thing under every comment over and over again?
Hailey posted on her TikTok a video and deleted it. The video went viral where Hailey basically said Selena deserved all the body shaming from media and public (which Selena was receiving at that moment)@@RandomPerson-b9sd
There’s something I don’t understand; if you truly are a Selenator, why would you support a relationship that we all know was very toxic? Selena even said in one of her songs “of course she was sad, but now she’s glad she dodged a bullet” So she clearly wouldn’t go back to it, why are people so invested in proving that Justin is still in love with her?…
because in their mind it's all a fairytale lol - justin is the prince and selena the good girl princess. hayley is the evil stepmother who thinks she's fairest of them all, swiping justin all for herself. they think it's like drama in a soap, high school or dollhouse and that it's unbelievable that justin, one of the biggest stars, would just be a playboy
Severe unhappiness and illness can occur at any socioeconomic level. Multimillionaires commit suicide and drink themselves to death too. If I were close to Hailey, I would be extremely concerned about that relationship and how her mind is being warped. I am glad you correctly identified the bad guy (Justin). A study came out that $500,000 was the sweet spot for money buying happiness. Poverty does bring so much stress and unhappiness, but millions of dollars is not a cure to it. I sure wouldn't mind one million dollars though lol.
Well this is a difference between hmm children of famous people. She's a somebody niece/daughter. And then look of Daisy Head - she's been in D&D movie, Shadow&Bone series. Did anybody just refered her as a daughter of Anthony Stewart Head and niece of Murray Head? Nope. Cos she's... build somenthing on her own and work hard for it.
@@IwonaKlichI've never heard of any of those people so the people who have heard of Daisy probably don't know she's a nepo baby too. The Baldwin brothers are very well known, Alec being the most well known. You can be talented and benefit from nepotism. Plenty of people have careers who probably wouldn't if not for their family. So many talented people never make it, it opens doors for you having a famous surname. Britney Spears' sister would never have had a show on Nickelodeon if she was just a normal girl.
I just wanna point out that men constantly making their girlfriends/wives constantly feel compared to the men's exes and manipulating them into needing to 'prove' that they're better is a thing that exists. If Selena's already talked about Justin emotionally manipulating her, I wouldn't be surprised if he's part of Hailey's fixation in the past. Especially if Justin knew Hailey was a fan of him as a teen and had already been emotionally invested in his relationship with Selena.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Justin emotionally cheated on Selena with Hailey.. im assuming Hailey and Justin mustve been friends during his relationship with selena and I don't think Hailey was aware but maybe Justin manipulated their friendship to be more romantic - I mean it would explain why he moved on so fast and got married so quickly to her. Though thats just me guessing since i dont know anything about these people lmao
Instead of making up scenarios without any proof why don't you blame selena who was calling hailey and Kylie a bitch and misgendering her. She commented on multiple hate tiktoks and there's proof unlike your assessment of justin which is just made up without any facts. No one knows anything about Justin's life and how he treats hailey. He has stayed out of spotlight for years atp. And if you believe selena that justin was emotionally abusive then why don't you believe Justin when he said he was also abused by selena in his gq interview 2016??. There's literally a video of selena slapping justin (who was minor at that time).
I think that what makes this a bit more hard to gauge is that Hailey is very rarely seen being "human", she's mostly very camera ready and maintains a certain perfect image of herself, to the point where even when Justin would be publicly disrespecting her, you either see no reaction at all or you see her smiling and turning it into a joke. Hard to tell how they treat each other in private, but I find it commendable that they shared their struggles with the marriage and tried to get the help they needed.
"But Kylie Jenner immediately denied any relation, involvement, or knowledge of Selena Gomez' eyebows." what a masterpiece of a sentence. the sheer absurdity of saying such a thing in the first place, the grave tone, the formal serious journalism type wording, the absolute hilarity of the idea of kylie having relations with selena's eyebrows, involvement with selena's eyebrows, knowledge of selena's eyebrows--- when i tell you i *shrieked*
All these millions of people screaming about how they hate bullying and mean girls while literally being mean bullies themselves....... I feel so sorry for Hailey. I don't care how much money she grew up with, no one's mental health could be okay with the world all hating you at once.
Mental health? You mean consequences for one's actions? Mental health is a serious matter. Hailey getting a taste of her own medicine is fair. She is an energetic vampire and a bully. She bullied salena for her 50million followers. Mental f***ing health....
Something that some people miss is that Selena Gomez has liked or responded to a post about people hating on Hailey. So its it’s not like Selena is above all the drama
she's always been shady toward other females that had been around Justin even before Hailey, liking shady post throwing shades at models for just simply being pictured with Justin, I don't know why her fan treat her like a saint even though her past scandals are more shady than Hailey but her PR team are just too good.
Gotta thank Selena's PR for that. They work harder than the devil to keep Selena's hands clean and her fans are blind minions so that helps a lot too. I just lost it when she targeted bella hadid to be her next victim like bella doesn't fuck with you plus she's your ex's ex and that's weird asf. Obviously her fans started bullying bella saying she's plastic and the fact that bella already has mental health issues like damn this was really unnecessary. The way she treated her kidney donor also says a lot tbh.
I've said it and I'll say it again... Selena is so tactical with starting a drama and her fans are oblivious and keep making her a victim. She stirs up the pot in such an innocent way and her fans do all the rest. I'm not a fan of either of them but my TikTok was filled with stuff about them for a brief time and you can see what is going on and that it's not all Hailey. And Jeffree Star to say that he is against bullying... Ohh, the irony. 😂
I remember seeing him getting married and going good for them, you go. It's absolutely absurd how fans doesn't want the best for the one they look up to. I know not all fans are like this, and i feel sorry for them as these fanatics overshadow them. I hope Hailey and Justin can compartmentalize and focus on each other. If they're happy, that's all that matters. It's also ironic that they call her a mean girl when they act like one
I don't follow any celebrity news, but how ironic that for then calling Hailey a stalker and a bully, they themselves are stalkers and bullies (and heck I'll even say even worse ones, it's disgusting how the same people that say they hate misogyny are the same ones that bully and harass women the most and so brutally).
Hailey is to blame, she started all this shit ! Go.look at all the facts! It's Hailey who started all this drama...she deserves the hate she is getting back, after she stalked and bullied Selena every day...she is sick in her head!! She is obsessed with Selena!! She starts trouble and when trouble comes back to her, she want to cry like a little baby and manupulate people to think.she is the poor victim! She is so toxic and such a bullshitter!! All she is, is a walking lier on two legs! A bully and stalker !!
0 self reflection. Only emotional reactions that are put on some social media directly. It's really immature to think you can control what others do before you yhink about controling yourself..
It's very sad 😔..... I try soooo very to be the Devils' advocate and to not say negative things...I dont always succeed , I'm not perfect I'm human to so I at least try my damndest to see both sides of an argument or point.... Life would be so much easier if we knew all the answers, right?? The sad thing is , life is actually a multiple choice test!!! Don't know how or why I never thought of it like that before... lol, I'm pretty weird..... INFP personality type, so an observer/healer/mediator and creative , retro girl.... sometimes I'm just in a mood and don't want to harsh anyone else's mellow, so I'll just tell them to STFU if they haven't anything nice to say!😆
Even if she IS a copycat or even a bully (which tbh the so called evidence of her “bullying” is so incredibly tame and petty that I’d hardly be upset by it if I was Selena) the amount of hate and vitriol she has got is extremely disproportionate and disturbing. I honestly don’t know how she hasn’t had a breakdown about it yet.
She was raised in a celebrity centric world. She’s a Baldwin who married someone famous. Her world isn’t ours. For someone like Hailey what would make us crumble is just another day.
@@sabinadorothea it’s not about being rich but being born into a world that has constant criticism and eyes on her. She was walking down the red carpet at like 5 and being in the modeling industry, she has thick skin
To this day, I cannot understand how we got here from an ambiguous eyebrow post or the “God’s timing tik tok”. People were so quick to say it was about SG but HOW. Plus I found a channel that was showing receipts on “shade” coming from SG’s tik tok going back to YEARS ago. So if Hailey’s posts can be considered bullying, so should Selena’s posts. If Selena was throwing shade, it honestly was a lot more mean spirited and what’s worse, her fans were applauding it since they hate Hailey so much. It really shows the bias and general attitude of the fandom.
Also how are people bullying Hailey SO bad but say “they hate bullying” 100% the spotlight should be on Justin IF anything. Imagine being in haileys shoes and every moment, everything you do gets compared to your boyfriend/husbands ex.. I would HATE IT!
Honestly, it might just be jealousy. Every time I see hate for Hailey it's over something so tiny and meaningless, like wearing a similar dress to Selena or something. Like they already made up their mind to hate her, now they're just trying to find a reason.
I can always depend on you to have an even hand on how celebrities are treated. Public shaming has become such a big part of our culture and a form of internet bonding and I'm really interested to hear what you have to say on this one considering she's been getting a ton of blowback for reasons I am... Mostly unfamiliar with I don't know these people lol
Cancel culture is getting more and more ridiculous to me. They all look like an angry mob with pitchforks and torches, like peasants back in the day. You can dislike whoever you want but bffr.
The fact that millions of people seem to think they are not only justified, but righteous in bullying either of these women; while simultaneously calling themselves champions against bullying is gross. Not one of these fan groups know these individuals enough to have an opinion on the situation. How can they call Hayley a mean girl and BE a mean girl to this woman? It’s ridiculous. Do something with your lives so you don’t have to worry about them.
There’s no way hailey is copying Selena bc both of them are kind of “norm-core” “trendy” aesthetics. It makes sense that they’re similar because they share the same ex for god’s sake. Now is selena decided to go full punk or some more out there aesthetic- then I could totally understand the copying thing. But tbh they’re both in that realm of celebrity who are just super normal & marketable- almost commercial type people.
Exactly. Plus, a lot of times they are dressed by stylists and designers. Their closets are usually just full of clothes they've gotten from representing brands, and PR packages, and their own clothing lines. Why wouldn't 2 rich women living in cali with similar friends and an ex in common not be similar as well?
@@Samzillah that's honestly true, Kpop fans even have a 'who wore it better?' trend when two idols are styled in the same designer piece, I've never seen anyone claiming an idol is copying another one based off of fashion alone - they *do*, however, claim idols are copying each other when their faces just happen to look similar, which is a new level of insanity...
Love the fact that you took a moment to turn the attention to Justin and how his role is likely way bigger in all of this. I appreciate the way you approach the topic and how their backgrounds play into this whole narrative
Right! Like that one girl said How are we putting these women against each other vs saying they are both too good for someone who treats them like he allegedly does.
As Selena said “don’t send anyone hate” like most people will never meet Hailey and they don’t know her personally. How can you judge someone you barely even know. How celebrities show themselves to the public isn’t always their true personality
Because Hailey started all this shit and drama!!!!!! Hailey is the bully and the one spreading hate towards Selena!! Hailey is just getting back what she deserves!! What goes around comes around
I don’t know if I’m in the minority in this but both Selena and Hailey are weirdos. Like both women have said and done shady things to each other just one for the all the hate. Also their beef only really started up again because of fans talking about it and Selena going to comment sections and hailey being all cryptic. Just leave both women alone because this drama is so lame if it happened in Highschool people would stop talking about after a 2 days. Hailey gives off mean girl vibes and Selena gives off attention seeking vibes that’s how I view them now. Also where’s all the hate for the men in the industry how have done way worse like we had brands talking about this, it was so weird.
Exactly what I'm saying. Some men have beaten women and still have their career. 2 female celebrities act like 15year olds and everyone gets obsessed about them. It's ridiculous. If we ignored them we would have to never hear about their teenage dramas again. Same thing with the Kardashians.
I feel the same way. People are getting way too invested in the relationships between celebrities they'll probably never meet. Tbh, the only reason why I clicked on the video was because I want to support Madison's channel.
It's the misogyny for me... I always comes down to misogyny in these situations. The toxic men get little to no push back while the women are mercilessly dragged over coals for the smallest things. Hate this.
Okay, but hear me out..what if they're dressed similarly on purpose by the stylists? they're constantly compared to each other in the media, so it might not even be Hailey's choice necessarily.
Right? That particular conspiracy is so dumb. 1. The stuff they were/are wearing is mostly trendy. You could probably find 100 other celebrities wearing very similar outfits within the same month of every one of those pics 2. They presented all that as fact. I didn’t see dates on anything.
Just wanna say i absolutely LOVE the editing at the beginning, it reads like a comic book coming to life and makes it seem like shes being portrayed as some super villain (which i dont thinks she is one). Kudos to whoever did that!
We have celebrities' out here committing actual crimes yet the focus is on hating and bashing these two women over something that does not concern any of us. No wonder we have admitted S.A. perpetrators out here only getting a slap on the wrist while potentially petty acts are leading to death threats... priorities people, priorities.
nowadays people relate more to mean words and bullying than truly grave assaults. the latter is just too icky, too nsfw, too beyond these folks to comprehend
@@ladyarmourlapras how sad that is. I wish truly heinous people and heinous acts will some day be more concerning than insecure people acting immature.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you brought up the fact that Justin is probably a big part of the problem with the whole situation. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is antagonizing and encouraging Hailey to do this kind of stuff. He knows he can’t do it himself. Otherwise, he will lose everything. But I wouldn’t be shocked to find out he was using his wife that he clearly doesn’t really like as a weapon against Selena. Some people do unhinged things when it comes to exes.
i think the fact that hailey has a documented past of being racist (along with justin) should have been brought up because that’s a real and valid reason a lot of people don’t like her
It truly bothered me how much hate she was given by the public & people tried to justify it by saying she has a racist, bullying past because so does Selena but almost no one talked about it. Along with the fact that there are public figures with past of sexual abuse, violence & far worse things than both women but have almost never gotten as much pure hatred by the public. I don't think people truly cared about a problematic past, they just felt like adding on the hate train
agreed you didn’t even see this kind of hate directed towards Chris Brown… i think we know why that is. i hate to say it but Selena had a pretty tone-deaf reaction to the BLM movement so i’m not sure why people are acting as if she’s some saint. they’re all human. people need to stop idolizing celebrities.
@@crab2195 no. Why would you say that is? If you’re gonna infer it, just say it with your whole chest. Put out the evidence of Selena being blatantly racist and the evidence of Hailey… having a tone deaf reaction is different than saying BLATANTLY RACIST crap. Period. I cant stand Hailey, but it’s not bc of Selena, it’s bc she truly seems like a HORRIBLE person… the shit she has said, the way she acts towards people… all this just sealed the deal that she’s just a mean girl. I think Selena won in this whole triangle, Justin is a trash human… being rich doesn’t make you a good person… he’s just like any fuckboy on this street, only his antics get excuses bc he has money
@@А.П-ъ7е She barked at her fans who asked the REASON for HER lack of support to BLM. She basically tweeted and deleted this: "Hashtags don't save lives!!"
I'm much too old to care about any of this but, I find it disheartening that Bieber isn't getting any hate whatsoever ever - just Baldwin. No woman can still a guy from another woman without him being a willing participant.
So someone should get hate ?? Like he broke up with selena and married hailey. It's not his fault that delusional fans can't move on. It's been five years and he hasn't said or done anything except make music. He doesn't owe selena's fans anything.
I swear the internet has not been able to get over Hailey marrying Justin instead of their JustinxSelena plans. They’re finding any reason to hate on her more.
I don’t hate Hailey and I feel pretty bad for her now. I hate how Justin (the man) is seen as innocent and complacent. He’s a grown aZz man capable of making his own decisions. He chose to get married to Hailey of his own free will. If people want to be mad about Hailey and Justin they should be mad at him. He was the one who had the on and off relationship with Selena for years (on and off relationships are never healthy). He’s the one that had the intimate relationship with Selena. He’s the one that should have respected Selena and honoured their bond. I hate how everyone always tries to burn women at the stake for the issues that MEN create. Social media needs to stop bashing and blaming women for the issues men create. It’s tiring.
Do people not remember how selena was also ridiculed and bullied when her and Justin first got together? People just want someone to hate at all times as a collective society and these brands and companies joining in on the bullshit is wild. Justin is the true villain here but 🤷🏻♀️
I wouldn’t say Hailey is fine just because she’s rich and famous. She’s a human being too. She and Selena both have dealt with more drama and bs than they should have had to. The fact that they’re dehumanized because they’re rich and famous is mind boggling and I hate how society does that to these people.
I wouldn't call it dehumanization. It's quite normal for people to be against the ones that have everything given on a golden platter. If You have to work hard and fight for what you have, problems of nepo babies or rich and famous are stupid, not importami and their 'struggles' are irrelevant
@@plastermiodu They were born into their money just like we were born into our poverty. At the very least it should make you want to do better for your own children once they come along. A human is a human and no matter their struggle it’s not irrelevant just because they have a different lifestyle. That whole statement just came across as envious. I don’t believe it is okay to be against someone just because they were born into money. Thats absurd. A Money doesn’t just make the world poop out rainbows and butterflies. Rich people have the same struggles we do just on a different scale as far as money goes but just because they’re rich doesn’t mean the feelings and emotional struggles they face aren’t real. That’s a very ignorant thing to say.
I understand being upset at witnessing the bullying, but all that “people calling her out” has done is encourage more hate. the way to stop a bully isn’t by bullying them back. it’s to show kindness and compassion and not give them the attention they are so desperately craving. it’s DEVASTATING to see some of the things being said about Hailey, Kylie, and all others. it all just feels so misogynistic and disgusting. criticism and bullying are NOT the same
People like to bully others and will use any excuse to do it. She's not nice, but people are more mean towards her, than towards actual criminals. By how much people bully her you'd expect she killed someone. Men in Hollywood literally do crimes and get to walk around as if nothing happened. It doesn't make any sense.
@@kategingeromg this like there were people chanting “fuck Hailey” at a JB concert while he’s preform with Don Toliver (who has allegations against him)
With wealth and publicity beyond our imagination comes responsibility. When you live off the backs of other people, you need to make the world a better place. Neither of them do it. But I agree the accountability happens more with women. Same in business. If Elizabeth Holmes wasn’t a skinny blonde female, she wouldn’t have made the news as big as she did. Men including her business co-owner pull stunts like that all the time.
Right? Like saying she needs to be “put down like a dog” - how is that not bullying? I don’t like the girl either but it’s hella hypocritical. People could “call her out” without being mean.
It actually started with the TikTok supposedly shading Selena that Hailey posted and then quickly deleted. I wanted to add this because I think it makes it more clear why the eyebrow thing was jumped on so aggressively.
I don't think any shade was intended. Her uncle is Alec Baldwin, her father is part of the famous Baldwin family group, her looks, her husband, and the higher level of wealth & privilege she's always had... it makes sense that she would land under that category.
the way Hailey's stunning skin has NOTHING to do with her products tho... i thought of trying RHODE but i saw so many bad reviews and experiences, bad reactions, burned lips... like even Morgan Adams spoke about her experience and all of this was MONTHS before the Selena drama so i dont think it has anything to do with that
It’s really all depends on skin types. I had no reaction to all of her products and genuinely liked them. Kinda wish they had more product in it tho. But once again, it really depends on each persons skin.
Idk why people are so pro Selina when she’s been one of the sketchiest/shadiest of them all. Btw, what happened to her relationship to the friend who donated her kidney? Oh yea, she no longer talks to her or mentions her now…that’s just not cool.
Why are people literally saying they hate her like she killed a dog or stole from Africa ? I don’t get why people are this mad . I guess everybody likes to have a common enemy they can project to
I’m finally gonna properly know what the tea has been with this drama. Tried other videos but were hectic and confusing - Madison’s voice and research are a blessing ❤
Ann Boleyn, Meghan Markle, Marilyn Monroe, Joan of Arc, Jennifer Anniston, Cleopatra, Camilla Parker Bowles, Eve and the Apple… through our history women have been blamed for the decisions of stupid men… why is everyone bullying Hailey when it was Justin who proposed and got with her three months after Selena?? Why is no one dragging him?
It's weird to see people get so angry about someone's relationship. Harassing someone for being a bully or rude or petty is pretty hypocritical. Why not bully any of the directors or actors who SA or abuse those they have power over? I know people are using these celebrities as a distraction from reality because life sucks sometimes, I just don't get why they won't use their anger for something productive.
Selena is equally as a mean girl to Hailey. Let’s not forget she took her “friends” kidney then dropped her after & continued to drink & use drugs . Also these are celebrities we have no idea what Hailey & Selena have said or done behind closed doors.
Please don’t use that as a reason. Addiction is a awful disease. And this also diminishes the actions of her friends to just doing it because they’re friends. There goes many prep in donors!
Dude, this whole video just made me angry (not because of you, you were awesome!) I genuinely cannot imagine caring so much about any of these people to spread this much hate.
All this mess for a man who acts and looks like an early teenager??????? What makes it even crazy is that Gomez does averything to clarify that she is not interested about him anymore.
I went and looked at Rhode skincare just to see what products were available, as someone with oil prone skin, the glazing hydration aspect of it kinda scared me, but if I had more dry skin I'd probably have given it a try
Geez- of course idk Hailey - but i do know a sad and tired look when i see one. I hope she and her husband figure out to get her support or a sabbatical ( undisclosed location) away from horrible individuals and all things social media.
I didn't even know about Hailey being so intertwined in the Jelena romance. When I first heard she was engaged to Justin, I was *worried* about Hailey. (Obviously, you can tell I had blamed Justin for the break up).I felt that Justin was not mature or emotionally ready to be married. You can TELL Hailey loved him. Him...eh. Not so much.
I feel like lot of this could have been avoided if ‘fans’ stopped reading into surface level situations and having celebrities ‘comment’ on the drama as well because it just adds more fuel to the dumpster fire.
This whole situation is a great representation of their fanbases. Grown ass Adult Women, throwing temper tantrums on why they WANT Justin to be with SELENA. An entire generation skipped out on growing up and maturity lmao. There's a reason why a lot of guys avoided girls like that. It's so petty and miserable how they feel the need, or rather, the right to conduct what happens in Justin and Selena's lives.
I think it's tacky that the celebrities involved in this drama (especially Selena) keep bringing it up publicly. Stop talking about it so fans chill out, and stop sending your fans after the other. This relationship literally has nothing to do with the public so they should be left out of it and left out of the messiness that they keep bringing up.
imagine being in love and married and the whole world hated you for it and constantly told you to get back with your ex. Its so disgusting and insane. Kids are wild nowadays
The only thing is at sometimes it seemed the reason he would cheat maybe on Selena or nagger if you really look at the dates cuz I saw a video it was usually when she won awards when her songs top charts and his didn't you know what I mean and with Haley it's different because he's not he's not competing with her I'm not saying he was competing with Selena but you know like when your man feels less than because you're bringing home more money or you bought the home or you bought the car that's what sometimes it seems like or like you both work in the same company but you got the promotion over him and sometimes it that's what it kind of seemed like with Justin and Selena like he knew her weak spot which was her body you know he father when she was young her body was still of a girl and now it was growing as a woman and her weight going up and down and him cheating with models or with certain people and with Haley she needs him and he knows that cuz who is she without him and it's hard to say because who's her dad like yeah he came in like biodome and some other movies but that was like in the 90s and then a couple of the 80s hits her uncle who's famous you know I mean there's that other Uncle everyone that was attractive he was skinnier when he was younger he came on Backdraft I'm just saying her dad was the least famous of the brothers and I don't think they had the most money, and then diffuse more she's more obsessed with I have to show a picture perfect like I can't prove everyone wrong and like Lucy she grows you know older like when she turns thirteen realize you know what this isn't love this was infatuation a fantasy that I had as a young girl and a miserable or you know cuz it's just funny how they had said over we can't wait to start having kids live in Mary for a long time I'm shocked that they have it and you mostly see her out with her friends her girlfriend and then that weird video where it's like him her and then a bodyguard and a car in the body are like practically touching hands and he's like not even paying attention to her I'm just saying sooner or later she's going to realize but I think her ego and self-esteem won't let her admit it and she can't prove and let everyone know oh yeah you were right and I was wrong
I do think haileys hostility towards selena is very strange, bc it’s completely one sided, I don’t doubt justin puts bugs in her ear to fuel her dislike, but her dislike was preexisting before she even existed in Justin’s life, like she was doing weird stuff well into her 20s, I also think is nuts how this is what made hailey most hated and not her back catalogue of racism
finding out her her racist history, just blew my fucking mind. like how would someone not wish to adress that kind of language, when they have become as famous as she has in the present day?
I'm fascinated at how little happened meanwhile the fans where snowballing out the hill. One would have thought these two where caught attempting murder on each other. If you ever get so tangled into gossip like this, please just step away from social media.
Never understood why people cared so much when thousands of people trash talk their ex or their partners ex. My fam does it all the time. Also this will probably sound mean but as a person who has severe medical problems sometimes I think Selena is whiny and inconsiderate. I know money can’t solve everything, but when the majority of your audience can’t or can barely afford medical care to an extent (some things just can be fixed) maybe don’t say certain things. Ps I think it’s fucked up Justin isn’t defending Hailey.
My beloved cat just died two days ago and I've been searching for ANYTHING to distract me from the homesickness I feel for her. Thank you for this long documentary. 💙
I truly wish you the best, I'm sure you did everything you could for your kitty and I'm so grateful for it, thank you for taking care of animals! I wish you heal soon ❤
Justin Bieber has always been rude. He spit on his fans strait up. SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PPL IN THE BACK he is NOT the prize. If everyone hates hailey so much LET her be with him. She gonna have a lot more issues to deal with than us hating on her or them. Selena has said multiple times to spread kindness. She wants it all to stop. It doesn’t make sense why everyone can’t drop it
Selena is also not an angel, it’s common knowledge that she pitied her fans against Hailey Bieber and dug up videos from years ago to comment on amidst the drama (the hailey bieber making a “yuck” expression while talking about Taylor swift) and then commenting “I love you” on a tiktok calling Hailey and Kylie b*tch*s.. The depths that her fans are willing to go to and the way the worship her as if they’re some kind of cult is strange… They forget that she’s not perfect and that she’s VERY shady, from harassing models that were in JB’s music videos to saying that she’s single while her and Justin were in a relationship… And then making a sob story of a song about how she had to lose him to love herself… Girl, you did this to yourself. I know I’m probably gonna get a lot of people defending selena in my replies, but please do your research, Selena was never the victim.
I don't know why it's always Hailey's fault though that Justin is mean to her, like genuinely.. he seems to be the common denominator here between every woman he is with.
