Does Nocturne Hardtype "Fix" SMT Nocturne? 

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this is what a nice hardtype should be, a nice reasonable challenge instead of little timmy in the hex editor giving enemies overblown stats and jacked spawn rates

The best part about hardtype is getting random encounters with fiends. It's the greatest "fuck off" moment I've seen from a romhack

Dante in the original game was where my DF&Pixie only Hard run ended. This looks like a blast.

Regarding why the Full Moon Encounters don't simply have their Press-Turn increased from the Get-Go, based on my observation the Full Moon Encounters mostly uses the same data internally as the summon-able ally with the only difference being skills learnt. The summon-able allies only have one Press-Turn, this means if the Full Moon Encounters have their Press-Turns increased it would affect their summon-able ally as well, so Turn increasing moves were used to compensate, though this is only my speculation.

Good smt content is so rare, really good video

Played Nocturne on PS3 a little over a year before they announced the HD remaster. I'm glad I did. I spent HOURS and HOURS on it, leveling up my Demi-fiend until every stat was maxed out, and I had enough MP to spam Mediarahan after going on a Focus+Deadly Fury+Freikugel spree. Then I went and platniumed the remaster. All in all, Nocturne is one of my favorites in the franchise.

6:56 I loved that clip so much

Hard-Type is genuinely fun way to play nocturne almost definitely. I wish I can mod nocturne more just to make it's more infinitely replayable.

when you were listing out the cons, at first i was like "oh man those sound lame", but thinking about it, is there anything more quintessentially nocturne than one or two (frankly) batshit design decisions that you will leave you leaning back in your chair after having to reload a save out of nowhere?

when i heard that hardtype removed trafuri my heart dropped. my windows shattered. my ceiling fell. my house exploded. my city got nuked.

I just downloaded SMT 3 Nocturne on my Steam Deck last night to start it soon because I remember the video where you recommend Persona fans to at least try an SMT game, and then I woke up to your post - now I'm extra hyped for the game!! Awesome video as always!

The randomized fusion skills made me want to cry. Amazing video.

Deus, Nams compendium and Bubble tea posting videos about nocturne today.. coincidence I think not!

This was great man, good job

I will never let go that Matador isn't that hard. They literally sell you a Magatama that resists wind like 10 SECONDS BEFORE THE FIGHT . You can also just get some demons that resist wind, as there are a few around the level you fight him

I love that you and Nam dropped a video on the same game, at the same time on the same day lol

I literally started playing this last night, gonna get deeper into it soon hopefully 😬

As someone very close to the end of my first Nocturne run, Hardtype's additions sound interesting. I'd probably hate the full moon encounters, same as you, but I like difficulty changes that make you re-evaluate options that existed in the original game but were easily overlooked. I also appreciate the later Fiends getting harder: the Riders and Mother Harlot were anticlimactic for me due to coming around the point your good fusions start to snowball. Also, maybe a hot take, but I think the Labyrinth of Amala's difficulty is overrated. The encounters aren't too bad outside of the very late ones (and earlygame-tier encounters can still show up well into the 3rd and 4th Kalpas), and the only part I had trouble in on my first run with the hell spiral... which is optional. I didn't realize stats being broken, but I'm still kinda fine with the phys vs magic balance in the original, since early Tornado made magic builds insane early on but fall off later, while physical was the opposite. I wish Concentrate existed though. But I never put a single point into Agility and still dodge tanked bosses for days with Sukukaja. Which leads me to... Sukukaja/nda is broken in vanilla Nocturne. Seriously, spamming it makes most bosses a joke even if playing blind. Lowering the limit to 2 stacks seems to help this, but I agree that enemies not playing by the same rules ruins one of the core ideas of the original. I personally think SMTV handled buffs/debuffs well: the limit is two stacks for both sides, and buffs wear off like in Persona so you need to re-apply them. (It made Luster Candy and Debilitate crazily expensive though) Okay, right after Metatron collapsed at the end of the boss montage, it cut to GRAB A SMALL BIG MAC AND A CHEESEBURGER! lol ad timing.

finally a video about hardtype, i've been wanting to learn about it but cant find shit about it

This game is only hard because of the freaking random encounters lol. If you know what you're doing the bosses aren't actually that difficult, but man those random encounters, just absolutely brutal. SMT5 is way more balanced and difficult than any other SMT game aside from the random encounters of course

Excelente video, te ganaste un sub

29:26 Oh i remember that game's demo! Never got to own the full game though.

I just discovered your channel I really love your content

I only just now discovered this video now that I've gotten out of my MegaTen slump and am back playin' a whoooole buncha JRPG goodness! I never actually knew about this swag can o' beans, and I oughta chickity checkeroni it out myself! My hat's off to the creator of this swagness, for givin' us dustmunchers a certified hood classic to chew on, and thanks to Bubbletea for makin' a rad video on it. Mondo cool, king! Mondo cool.

Funny thing to show up in my feed when I'm in the midst of my first Hardtype run

I haven't played this yet. Nor the original. Now I want to. Thanks dude.

i remember zombero mentioned locking the buffs/debuffs to +2/-2 but it made technically war cry and fog breath overpowered on your favour. and i think thats the reason skills like dervish were made but i'd say +2/-4 works out better.

Ngl as one whose played this hack in 2018 on hard patching it while I was on Dante in vanilla as much as I like the changes and QOL features the fight with the archangels is what ruined it for me which showed the issue with making battles with bosses that can heal theirs elves on top of the hp buff they received. That alone devolves some bosses into straight of dmg sponge battles that turn into who can run out of resources first and I'm unsure that bosses can run out of mp in this hack vs in vanilla which alone was pretty rare unless you're really underbuilt and not doing much dmg but barely surviving.

I saw you using bubblegum crisis footage I see you!

dante 1 was insane. i had to make an oni with 3 buffs and constantly spam tarunda with momunofu in order to beat him. in phase 2 he won't use holy star if you spam rakukaja, which forces him to use provoke, meaning that you can finally debuff him for real

Really great video. Hardtype is such an incredible accomplishment, so it's wonderful to see someone give it such a spotlight. I love how much you highlighted the rebalanced gem/ticket economy, because that's easily one of the smartest changes. It's a shame Zombero seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. I'd love to see their reaction to critiques like this video and Jim Reaper's comments during his challenge run. Also regarding the last bit of the video; I definitely respect the stance that people shouldn't make their first experience with a game one with a mod like this. Personally I disagree, at least for Nocturne Hardtype. I think Hardtype does a really good job of polishing Nocturne while remaining faithful to the original experience. And if difficulty is a concern, I can confirm that the mod works fine on normal difficulty. That said, anybody wanting to play Nocturne for the first time these days will just use the HD remaster 😅 Oh, one thing you didn't cover in the video but that's worth bringing up are the changes to skill inheritance and morph. Zombero rebalanced the weighting of all the skills to make demons more likely to inherit good skills, which makes rerolling demons subtly less tedious than base game. However, he also accidentally broke skill morphing such that skills can now morph into lower tier skills. It's my one major gripe with Hardtype that I wish Zombero would return to fix.

19:35 I was thinking of that.

ONE MORE VIDEO PUBLISHED!!!

The DDS and Raidou games deserve some love for current consoles/systems.

damn you really referenced a video that came out an hour before yours?

The no run random encounters and full moons ruined this hack for me, played this with random encounters off cheat

The best SMT game imo. Wanna try the rom hack soon. Looking for an ass kicking.

shout out to FreeMcBoot for allowing me to actually play this on a PS2

You also go hard 😳

I liked althe rebalancing in Hardtype, but nerfing Estoma and removing Trafuri completely from the game was a deal breaker for me. The encounter rate in Noctrurne is incredibly high, and being forced to grind through them becomes increasingly tedious even before you consider the full K surprises

Smt nocturne: this games releapty kick my ass, punch me in groin, lost my mind on the directions and true ending and surprised bitch slap me. 10/10 would recommend But seriously normal mode is not too insane. If you know how megami tensei play(using buff and debuffs, and exploiting weakness and null) you be fine expect for some moments

Jim Reaper My Beloved 😭😭

As a casual Persona enjoyer who played normal difficulty Nocturne up until the 3 sisters boss, I love the dedication of a video upload to an increased difficulty version of a classic game full of challenge and strategy. Reminds me of your P3 FES love in how you had to use the command system to achieve the desired result.

Damn, and Lucifer destroyed me 37 times on Hard mode already. . . I will try this one day though :)

It sounds neat, although damn there really should be an option to buy the shop lootboxes directly, cause farming them has always been a pain. I also feel like all the stuff to make random encounters more painful goes in the wrong direction. Having mini bosses available only at specific kagutsushi level sounds cool but it should be something you look for not something that's slapped on you. But nocturne having random encounters to begin with is kinda bad in my opinion. For me the most memorable encounters are the ennemies you talk to and that attack you, and I really wish the areas were designed in a way where random encounters were really far apart with the pace of the area dictated mostly by scripted encounters, and you'd only really get random encounters often iif you use the skill to attract them. Sadly that'd require a big redesign of the areas but yeah that my major gripe with nocture and I feel like going in the direction to make random encounters even more annoying isn't ideal.

Which remix of Title Loop 2 is 30:10 from?

Around 20 minutes or so this guitar part starts playing so what is it called

Nocturne hardtype may go hard... but the average bubbletea video puts that to shame.

Did DDS have eye skills? I can't remember now that I think of it.

@6:50 : Did you play on normal or hard mode? On my first playthrough, i picked hard mode and deliberately avoided using fiends, and man it was perfect. The story bosses were all EXTREMELY brutal, and i've had played nocturne vanilla all figured out. I must have spent 50 real time hours updating my team whenever i hit a boss wall.

Why nobody tell me about the grinding dlc? I spent 400 hours farming in hd :(

Please do Solo Vanilla Strange Journey Expert.

Pong the next level video when.

Thank you random person on the internet

wait til this guy discovers SMT 4

My favorite part of every SMT game is when the game hands me the lube.

Hard Mode, Useless Stats Only, then Increase the stats that decrease in value the more levels you have for the most silly experience.

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What font did you use for your thumbnail?

idk fighting the 4 riders in an encounter and trumpeter+mother harlot seems mad fun to me also, i guess you could throw a riberama at 7/8 kagutsuchi and then estoma on full moon

I miss jim reaper

Anywhere I can find what music you used? Edit: looking specifically for the one at 19:56 if it matters

I'm willing to play the "modern port" on Steam no DLC included when it drops a good chunk, no way I'm buying a game for 250

Am I the only one who grinded to level 100 before fighting Metatron?

1:12 ok? I started this series with nocturne and didn't buy any DLC because i found that stupid and i did have some problems but it's not as brutal as all the "Nocturne experience" videos made it look like atleast not on normal guess i am not a true fan or something because i didn't play it instantly on hard like a maniac sorry to those people that think that i guess but hey the game's fun :) i am happy that i got to play it and that all is thanks to you i found your channel after playing persona 4 and got interested i am 43 hours in and it's the most fun i ever had with any kind of RPG i am truly grateful :)

Took me 3 years to get the true demon ending

Hee ho

Id say i much prefer if the enemy always has an advantage.

please put a trigger warning for the puzzle boy music, thank you

Nocturne isn't hard. It's tedious.

ive always wanted to play hardtype but ps2 emulation is just too much of a fucking hassle for me

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litterally modded so not hardest "smt" game.

I just hate that this game is……. So incredibly boring. It’s hard but it’s also a sleeper. Wish it was more interesting

Hot take. I don't like this game at all. Dull environments, characters that aren't fleshed out, lots of bull that you can't see until you get hit by it, and so on. The only thing I liked was the combat but even that has it flaws. With that being said, this hack seems interesting. It's not going to get me to play it but it's interesting.