How Hex Actually Works: A Scythe of Vyse Item Breakdown 

Good catch! Not a KOTL player so didn't realise that talent had been added in during 7.35

​@@beneaththeveilI believe it was before 7.35

@@onethegogd5783 It was actually right at the start of 7.35 where the 25 talent +1.2s Blinding Light Stun was replaced by Chakra Magic Strong Dispels. It used to be that at level 20 you got a talent which was Chakra Magic Dispels - meaning a basic dispel. 7.35 came out mid December so it's been so long now not surprised you felt like it was an earlier patch

Glad to hear that! Keep focussed on yourself instead of your allies and you're bound to improve. Both winning and losing games are always learning opportunities :)

Yeah it's been pretty wild!

Welcome to the greatest game in the world ;) It's a constant learning process, so don't worry about not being good off the bat. The climb will come with time. Best advice is to stick to a small pool of heroes and learn the game first, then start expanding your hero pool as you get more comfortable. Anything we can help with don't hesitate to ask and we'll make videos where we can or just comment directly :)

Buy bkb and show up to fights

Play for fun forget number.

@@beneaththeveilno. Just have fun.

Glad to hear! Welcome aboard, friend. More informational content to come for sure to help make you a better player :)

Great to hear! Half the battle is knowing what your options even are. Then it's just about knowing how to apply it. More to come for sure!

Glad you think so! You're very welcome

Sorry, could you elaborate further what you mean? Do you mean more explicitly state what patch number each video is made in?

Thank you!

Yes, definitely! We're working on a video explaining how illusions work which will go through that in depth! Keep an eye out

More to come for sure! The algorithm blessed us on the Nullifier video and we've been trying to surf the tidal wave of new viewers ever since. We'll keep up the grind so long as you all keep watching and letting us know what you want to know about

Glad you like it! It might seem like a small touch but in reality they were a multi-day effort to get fully going how we wanted lol. What we did in the time before Crownfall dropped because we thought we'd be getting a gameplay patch that would make any video we did immediately irrelevant :/ Imagine the awkward moment when we realised it was a cosmetics patch at first lol

Glad you enjoyed! Out of curiosity: where in the world are you? We've realised our audience is becoming truly international and are beginning the process of creating closed captions for our videos to enable those who don't speak english very well (or struggle to understand Phil's New Zealand accent) to be able to use subtitles in their own language and fully understand the information we're sharing. Our goal is always to make what we share as simple to understand as we can and we're fully aware that a language barrier can be a huge issue :)

@@beneaththeveil heh :) I'm from Russia

@@iaroslaveremin4613 greetings! We'll see how adding russian subtitles goes and if they are any use being auto translated through our English ones. Please let us know on our next upload coming out later today ☺️

Great question! Yes all passive effects remain active during the duration of Hex. The only way to suppress passive effects is by applying Break to a unit, which disables passives which are tied to skills. Passives tied to items however, can not be suppressed in any way. That means Radiance, Vlads, Blademail etc. are always on no matter what. If an enemy triggers the active of blademail and is then hexed, they will still fully reflect all the damage they receive with reflection calculated based on the active effect of Blademail. Hope this helps :)

Thank you! Armlet isn't next up on our list, but it's in the pipeline!

@@beneaththeveil thank you bro. appreciate your amazing work on these item break downs. It really helped me.

Both of these items are on the list to be covered :)

Also, sidequestion, since there currently ARE problems with wide-public hex itemization in the eyes of Valve, Did they contact you to spread some popularity on this stick, or your own thing completely? They kinda like PR, one must say... :-)

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Hello! Based on your question it sounds like this is an early game issue. Biggest tip is to stop trying to save lost lanes. Especially as supports, it's easy to get baited into trying to salvage losing lanes and instead feeding that lane further. You need to play around the parts of the map that you're strongest and enable your players who struggled in the early stages to recover passively. If you're a core player who is struggling, it's usually to do with lack of awareness of the global state of the map. Pay more attention to the minimap and once you know the heroes who pose kill threat on you are somewhere else on the map you need to whip out into a lane and push it as hard as you reasonably can, then retreat and farm your way back to safety. If you know someone TP rotated though: run further away (preferably behind a ward which you can farm behind). Having a keen awareness at all stages of the game of which heroes can kill you 1v1 as opposed to which heroes require a +1 to kill you can inform a lot of your decisions as to when you can trade farm vs when you have to leave a lane if you're on the back foot. If it's the latest stages of the game and your hero has the potential to burst kill waves: cutting waves is a great strategy to find farm while indirectly affecting your enemies' ability to take objectives. It's a hard skill to execute and often leaves you susceptible to being picked off so you need to have a TP available when things get hairy. Hope this helps :)

Thanks!

Can we get some videos about recovering from a lost lane? The typical scenario, you're queued with a random, and there is no synergy.

Glad you enjoyed it! Once we've gone through all the mechanics we want to cover: we'll certainly start pivoting to cover more holistic concepts like how to have more impact when you start the game on the back foot :)

When Slark casts Dark Pact, there is a strong dispel that applies after a delay. If you Hex him between the cast and the spell popping then he dispels the hex. If you jump him before he casts Dark Pact then he can't dispel it

Glad to hear :)

Valve can never make anything simple, always gotta be a bunch of exceptions to every rule :'( A video on Break is in the pipeline! Just got a few other things to get done first

Thanks for the idea! Something we'll definitely cover down the line

Thank you! Yes, we realise the videos can be a bit long, but there's so much detail to cover with just one aspect of the game that it's hard to make shorter videos without sacrificing some information - then we inevitably get comments from people saying we forgot something :( We just can't win sometimes lol. Glad you enjoy it though. We're constantly trying to figure out just what is key to explain in each video and what can be covered in other videos. As we get more and more videos out they should get shorter and shorter as we will have already explained things in previous videos

Perfectly balanced game ;)

We're hoping that in an upcoming patch there are items introduced which also increase Debuff duration. Otherwise we'll cover it when we discuss Status Resistance ☺️

Unfortunately no, they were assets we made ourselves

@@beneaththeveil nice work!

Definitely agree! It's a very slept on item in low MMR

He used to but it got removed

It's what he's called in Meepo spammer circles :) It does give Transformers vibes though so we get it

Overgrowth requires being able to see the hero in order to have the effect trigger on them. You can test it by using Overgrowth against a Riki without detection and it doesn't root him. Since Slark is immune to detection while in Shadow Dance: Overgrowth can not root him. Other skills like Black Hole don't require you to be able to see the hero but for them simply to be in the effected area.

@@beneaththeveil wow! the riki example makes everything clear. Thanks

@@akC012 happy to help

We've got a whole video in the pipeline which will cover how illusions work and all the unique interactions they have! Keep your eyes peeled as it will certainly talk about Anti-Mage

Definitely top 5 at the very least!

just behind dagger and travel

Agreed, but I think BKB is easily the #1 item, to the point the entire game is balanced around it. #2? Iron branch, ofc

Very true. Combining Scythe of Vyse with Dazzle, Shadow Shaman or Lion's Hexes can be very, very strong.

Blink and Hex are an insane combination in late game scenarios. Cores very rarely are open to buying an Aeon Disk so Scythe can get some massive value for sure

There's so much to cover just in a single item or skill, that talking about heroes as a whole can be quite long-winded. Once we've gone through all the mechanics and gotten people up to speed: then we'll start covering why certain heroes are starting to become popular and what makes them work :)

Hehehehe. i9/RTX 4070/165hz. Need the cash to upgrade to a higher refresh rate :( will get there eventually

@@beneaththeveil my output doesn't look like that maybe coz I'm using amb cpu. This looks nice

@@Krab50132 Also using the Dota+ Spring map terrain so I dunno if maybe it's just the different looking map?

@@beneaththeveil maybe coz the tv i use has 60hz only lol

@@Krab50132 that could be it!

True. INT score permanently reflective of all Ogre pickers :'(

@@beneaththeveil yeah, stats wise this items sucks and does nothing for Ogre, but that Hex multicast is chef's kiss

Thanks a ton! As long as you all keep watching we'll keep making these informative videos :)

It's a neat detail :)

A clutch Hex can certainly turn otherwise losing engagements. Back in the day it was much easier to get a Hex reveal. Now with the ability to near constantly check item inventory's hyper aware players can see it coming. But can still catch plenty of players with their pants down

Glad you enjoyed! Dota is a hard game, always something new to learn :)

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