How Nullifier Actually Works: Explained in 17 Minutes

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We thought we'd continue our series explaining how items work by going over Nullifier: the best offensive dispel item in the game. We break down every item that it counters and show just how many hero abilities it counteracts too! Pretty impressive, huh?
Shout out to ‪@zzadrianzz‬ who popularised this style of DOTA 2 content. If you see this, we hope you understand we're replicating your titling to help the algorithm get these videos out to our shared audiences who want to understand the game better. It's all love from our end!
You can find our full playlist of DOTA videos from various creators that explain how items and mechanics of DOTA actually work from Adrian and other creators like ‪@ZQuixotix‬ ‪@PainDota‬ and ‪@BalloonDota‬. • How DOTA 2 Actually Works
Timestamps:
00:00 - How Nullifier Actually Works
02:34 - Strongest Items that Nullifier directly counters
04:27 - Other Items Nullifier counters (Not Recommended for just these items)
05:56 - Updated Interaction with BKB and Disjoints/Reflections
06:51 - How Nullifier Counters Hero Abilities
09:05 - Heroes which Nullifier gives Strong Counterplay against
13:27 - Heroes which Nullifier Hard Counters - these heroes alone justify a Nullifier purchase
Items:
Aeon Disk: Immediately removes protective barrier
Glimmer Cape: Barrier and Invisibility purged
Ghost Scepter / Ethereal Blade: Ethereal state purgeable
Euls / Wind Waker: Immediately returns hero to the ground if cast by an enemy. Nullifier does not stop allies from putting enemies in a Cyclone since it is a debuff. Thank you to users mikawesseling320 and shortcircuited5069 for the correction
Force Staff: Only pushes 100 units. Hurricane Pike works the same if ally-cast, but interacts normally if cast on enemy.
Crimson Guard: Removes physical barrier. Cannot dispel magic barrier from Pipe of Insight
Disperser: Allied movement speed boost purgeable
Mjollnir: Static Charge active purgeable
Pavise / Solar Crest: Purges Barrier and additional buffs
Drums of Endurance / Boots of Bearing: Active speed boost purgeable
Swift Blink: Movement Speed and Agility bonus buff purgeable
Mask of Madness: Purges Beserk active and puts item on cooldown. Removes the silence and armor penalty too.
Urn of Shadows / Spirit Vessel: Purges healing and consumes the charge.
Strength:
Earthshaker - Enchant Totem (purges bonus damage, doesn’t disable jump through Scepter)
Elder Titan - Astral Spirit bonus purged
Legion Commander - Press The Attack & Overwhelming Odds purged
Ogre Magi - Bloodlust purgeable
Omniknight - Repel not purged due to Debuff Immunity, Guardian Angel is though. (Repel is only dispelled by Shadow Demon's ult Demonic Purge since it pierces Debuff Immunity - credit to A H for the catch on that one)
Primal Beast - Onslaught purged after short distance
Slardar - Guardian Sprint purged
Spirit Breaker - Bulldoze purged
Sven - Warcry purged
Treant Protector - Living Armor purged
Agility:
Anti-Mage - Counter Spell can be purged but Nullifier can be reflected
Bloodseeker - Bloodrage purgeable, Barrier from Scepter also purgeable (credit to cynicsoul6451)
Clinkz - Strafe purgeable
Ember Spirit - Flame Guard purged
Gyrocopter - Rocket Barrage purged
Hoodwink - Scurry purged
Monkey King - Bonus damage and lifesteal buff through Jingu Mastery after hitting an enemy 3 times is purgeable, robbing him of the benefits.
Phantom Assassin - Phantom Strike buff purgeable
Phantom Lancer - Phantom Rush purgeable
Sniper - Take Aim purgeable
Ursa - Overpower purgeable
Intelligence:
Grimstoke - causes Ink Swell to instantly pop, ministunning if cast after Nullifier applies, or stunning for its current duration if Nullifier is applied after Ink Swell was
Leshrac - Nihilism (Scepter) is purgeable
Lich - Frost Shield purgeable
Nature’s Prophet - Purges buff from Teleportation
Necrophos - Purges Ghost Shroud
Oracle - Purges Fate’s Edict and the healing of Purifying Flames
Pugna - Purges Decrepify
Storm Spirit - Purges his Overload procs
Tinker - Defense Matrix purgeable
Warlock - Shadow Word cast on ally can be purged
Universal:
Abaddon - Aphotic Shield purgeable
Brewmaster - Purges his Cinder Brew buff, robbing him of bonus multipliers to Drunken Brawler variants
Clockwerk - Jetpack (Shard) purgeable
Dark Seer - Ion Shell and Surge both purgeable
Invoker - Alacrity purgeable
Magnus - Overpower purgeable
Mirana - Purges the bonus movement and attack speed, but doesn’t stop the Leap
Pangolier - Purges barrier from Shield Crash
Snapfitr - Lil' Shredder buff purgeable (credit to lull9075)
Techies - Instantly detonates Reactive Tazer, similar to Grimstroke’s Ink Swell
Timbersaw - will purge the barrier building up from Timbersaw Scepter
Vengeful Spirit - Purges the barrier from Nether Swap
Visage - Purges Grave Chill buff
Void Spirit - Barrier from Resonant Pulse purgeable
Windranger - Windrun purged

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@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Corrections: As of 7.35b the Nullify active now lasts 4s instead of 5s so has a 40% uptime instead of 50%. Units under the Nullify active are now also slowed by 10% for the duration. 3:55 - Nullifier does not prevent an ally from cycloning an enemy as that is considered a debuff, where Nullifier only removes buffs. That's on us for not realising the same spell can be considered a buff or debuff depending on who it is cast on. Thank you to users mikawesseling320 and shortcircuited5069 for the correction. 13:45 - despite saying that Repel is dispellable: it isn't actually dispelled by Nullifier. Spells which pierce Debuff Immunity and also dispel the target such as Doom's Doom, Winter Wyvern's Winter's Curse and Shadow Demon's Demonic Purge will all dispel Repel. Thank you to user A H for this one that slipped us by. Game continues to be hard. Please do check the description for all item and hero ability interactions with Nullifier. Shout out to zzadrianzz who popularised this style of DOTA 2 content. You can find our full playlist of DOTA videos from various creators that explain how items and mechanics of DOTA actually work from Adrian and other creators like ZQuixotix, PainDota and BalloonDota as well as links to their channels by looking in the description as well. Good luck and Happy Gaming!

@synnnavamananda8859 Месяц назад

Shud also tell how shadow blade counters it

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

While you can disjoint the projectile if you go invisible before it collides with you and you aren't detected in some way already: we'd never suggest Shadow Blade as a viable counterplay to Nullifier. The players that we've seen in pubs don't need more reasons to buy a Shadow Blade. In fact, we think there's an unhealthy reliance on Shadow Blade in the pub scene and people would actually gain MMR if they broke their reliance on it and learned better fundamentals of positioning.

@AH-vc3hb Месяц назад

Repel DOES get dispelled by shadow demons ulti though

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@AH-vc3hb Incredible catch! Realised already that Demonic Purge dispels all skills and items through BKB but hadn't even considered it pierces the Debuff Immunity of Repel to ultimately dispel it outright. Well done. God damn, game is hard.

@iutubsacs Месяц назад

Much respect for calling out people that inspired this type of video. Chivalry is super rare on social media.

@supreetmavintop1829 Месяц назад

you dont know how hard i was trying to find information on this item... thank you bro.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad we could help!

@kentwithaperiod Месяц назад

literally. "applies a debuff" tf does that mean.

@cynicsoul6451 Месяц назад

Ever had a game with raidboss built bloodseeker (aghs scepter + bloodstone) where he just can't seem to have his hp get lower than full? Chances are, he's probably had a huge stack of hp barrier from his aghs scepter effect and will keep stacking up barrier from his ability overheals up to 50% of his max hp. This makes Bloodseeker so tanky while continuously dealing lots of dmg. With nullifier, you can immediately bring that barrier to zero and keep him from stacking up hp barrier for the duration of nullifier. From there, use every hp regen reducing spells or items you have to keep him from regaining hp from his thirst and bloodstone.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Damn, we thought we'd gotten all of them once we realised we missed the Jingu Mastery buff. We got the Bloodrage being dispellable but didn't catch the Bloodseeker Scepter, mainly because we haven't seen Bloodseeker at all ourselves lately. Great pickup! Appreciate you sharing!

@danielrojaszea3952 Месяц назад

bro i just lost a game to an undying bloodseeker with insane amounts of shields we were able to bring down everyone but him. i didnt know or think about this, thank you this information will certainly benefit my gameplay.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@danielrojaszea3952 that's what we love to hear! Improving in Dota is all about learning all these niche opportunities for counterplay with items when an enemy invests way too deeply into a certain archetype

@cynicsoul6451 Месяц назад

How I discovered this was actually kind of accidental. You see, I was playing support Veno and I took up on the role of providing as much enemy regen reducing items as I can. Having already built Vessel, I then look up to see which item I can build that will also reduce enemy regen. So there was Skadi and Shiva's Guard to pick. Obviously, Shiva's was the more reasonable choice as a support so I immediately bought the Helm of Iron Will as it's one of the components for Veil. It was my mistake as I didn't noticed that my Offlaner already has built his Veil and on his way to build Shiva's. So instead of going Shiva's Guard, I now have to find another item that I can make out of this Helm of Iron Will. At first, it looked like Crimson Guard was a good choice as it does offer some defensive aura but it just feels underwhelming for a low str support hero like Veno. That's when I decided to just go with Nullifier as it would at least make a lot of the enemies' defensive item buffs nullified. To my surprise, it works so well against the enemy Bloodseeker that just hit his Bloodstone + Aghanim's Scepter timing just around the same as my Nullifier timing. Bloodseeker with such build ia obviously still very hard to deal with all his spell lifesteal and fast Movement speed. But without the benefit of having his stacks of hp barrier from his Scepter, he is at least manageable and much easier to burst.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@cynicsoul6451 It's hilarious to me that you stumbled across an item counter simply because you didn't want to waste gold on a component item you'd already purchased. That's a shrewd dota player right there

@VenomRaven Месяц назад

I've been waiting for a video just like this for the last couple of years. Thank you so much!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it

@KapitanMeyour Месяц назад

I need more of this item breakdown video. Nice one!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

More to come for sure! Make sure to stick around :)

@IceKangChang 27 дней назад

This level of explanation and analysis truly deserves some love

@beneaththeveil 27 дней назад

Much appreciated! More to come for sure!

@doublehelim Месяц назад

Loved your video. Very detailed and exactly what i was looking for. Subscribed :) Keep it up!!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Awesome, thank you!

@kexle8768 Месяц назад

This is a great video! The hardest part of getting back into the game imo is figuring out item sense again and all the interactions between reworked items, I def want to see more videos like this!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Couldn't agree more! As the years go by, the game seems to get more and more complicated. It's what makes the game beautiful, but we can fully understand why it makes it a nightmare for less active players

@robindegu7294 Месяц назад

At the risk of my current spam hero being nerfed/banned… wanted to share that shadow demon ult is essentially a better/more flexible/upgradable version of nullifier

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

That it is! It also purges Debuff Immunity which a commenter pointed out solved our issue of why we couldn't understand why Nullifier didn't dispel Repel. Demonic Cleanse pierces the Debuff Immunity, therefore purging Omniknight's Repel. We already knew that it pierces BKB, but hadn't put it together that Demonic Cleanse is the only way to dispel Repel due to the debuff immunity that's part of the spell.

@divinehatred6021 Месяц назад

i dont think shadow demon wins enough to be nerfed

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@divinehatred6021 He's seeing much more play (and winning) in the pro scene than he has the last few years. I think if anything is going to change with him it will be to Disruption.

@Doflaminguard 29 дней назад

@@divinehatred6021SD was played as a save hero instead of a damage hero.

@xIcarus227 Месяц назад

One thing I don't see often but works in my Legend bracket is buying nullifier early-ish when you need damage. The best example is PA, if I see that the enemy team has good physical damage and no undispellable saves I don't even think about getting Deso but get Nulli instead. That way I solve the following problems: 1. enemy supports can't save themselves, I can genuinely feed on them 25 min into the game and they can't do anything about it as long as BKB is on 2. I get good damage, definitely not as much as a fully upgraded Deso but it's comparable early when not upgraded 3. I get good protection against physical damage, meaning PA is even less likely to die from physical damage 4. I can put the brakes on certain enemy core heroes such as MK, because his Jingu mastery buff is dispelled by Nullifier which makes him super sad in the midgame And the best yet, you force enemy supports into awkward itemization choices. Imagine their pos5 has their first defensive item half-done and they see you with a Nulli. Do they finish the item? Do they get baited into getting Linken which you can pop very easily? Super underrated in my opinion.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Exactly! Nullifier can and should be purchased as soon as you know you can kill heroes within the 5s window it gives you. For every hero, regardless of attribute group: Nullifier is in the top 5 highest raw damage gains in the whole game. Only 5 less damage than a Deso once you've gotten 30 charges on it. It's insanely good for damage and then it's tied for 4th highest source of armour gain only behind Shiva's, AC and Helm of the Overlord. It so, so good.

@xIcarus227 Месяц назад

@@beneaththeveil totally agree, thanks for completing! Such a good and slept upon item.

@hewhoisnotentirelysure4000 23 дня назад

Damn! Jingu is actually dispellable?!

@beneaththeveil 23 дня назад

@@hewhoisnotentirelysure4000 yeah, can't dispel the debuff counter on yourself but you can dispel the buff he gets which gives him bonus damage and lifestyle. Very big

@Gustangela 5 дней назад

Yes. Nullifies and WD are broken.

@rayyanzaidi3323 27 дней назад

Dude you are amazing, I was looking for this information for so long and You helped me. Thankyou

@beneaththeveil 27 дней назад

Glad we could help!

@SuperMaxxxey Месяц назад

this is very informative i used to think this item became useless after they removed the mute. thanks now i know how to deal with soo many buffs when i play carry.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Yeah! It's a great item! I had a game as Juggernaut last night where we were being wrecked by a mid Timbersaw. He went Wind Waker and Aghs so I was forced to go Nullifier. He wasn't too pleased when he realised I knew the counterplay and ended up going Linken's, which was a mistake because the Swift Slashes from Jugg's Scepter purge the Linkens and he stays on top of the target. We eventually won but it was a hell of a slog to get there.

@joffrey13 Месяц назад

love this kind of content. Hope you can make more Item and Hero detailed guides.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

More to come for sure! Got a list of videos that we're working away on. Always taking community suggestions for sure. We make sure to read every comment :)

@lardoram 8 дней назад

Thank you fir the helpful info! I never see this item bought in my games and i think its in part to people not quite understanding the item

@beneaththeveil 8 дней назад

Exactly! Glad we could help

@lucasng4203 Месяц назад

Amazing video, really enjoying these types of videos, great info

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad you like them!

@siratmohaiminulislam8677 6 дней назад

instantly subbed. your explanation is just amazing.

@beneaththeveil 6 дней назад

Thanks and welcome

@ranamoeni6595 Месяц назад

tnx for ur high quality content, learned a lot 🙏

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Happy to hear that! Be sure to stick around :)

@s.o.s4509 28 дней назад

Gargle for clear voice though. Content top notch. Ty.

@beneaththeveil 28 дней назад

@@s.o.s4509 Phil just has a naturally husky voice. It is what it is. Appreciate the intent behind the advice though

@samueljames8654 Месяц назад

I think for windrunner you should mention that at 25 windrunner gets windrun can not be dispelled as an option. as you are viewing this more from the perspective of a late game item the fact that a talent nullifies the effect is not ideal

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

There is text at the top of the screen that mentions there is a 25 talent that makes Windrun undispellable alongside the fact that the invisibility from Aghanims Scepter is not dispelled by Nullifier, only the base effect is. To be clear, Nullifier isn't an item that can only be purchased in the late game. It can be purchased at any point in the game where you already have the items and skills to kill a hero during the 5 second window the enemy is being constantly dispelled. A hero like Slardar for instance might choose to purchase a Nullifier immediately after Blink Dagger if they're confident the only thing stopping them from killing enemies after a Blink - Crush initiation is some item or spell protecting a hero that has a dispellable effect

@iutubsacs Месяц назад

Great observation. But bear in mind that level 25 is *not* lategame for medium MMR and above. It is more like ultra late game. Its just us low MMR plebs that get 80 percent of our games go into min 50+

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@iutubsacs Yeah, lexicon around early/mid/late/ultra late game is super fluid in dota and entirely depends on the rank you're at. We try to avoid it as much as we can and refer to either in game timings or levels as much as we can. It's unavoidable at times though.

@naxoif951 Месяц назад

Great video! Hope more item will be feature! thank you

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

More to come for sure! Thank you :)

@Skrill_72 Месяц назад

Earned a sub, please more high MMR content like this

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to hear! Certainly have a few things in the pipeline already

@Stannis452 14 дней назад

I never used Nullifier, I've been playing DotA 2 for 3 years, and I'm still learning, but this video was extremely helpful and I'll give the item a go when facing one of the heroes you guys mentioned

@beneaththeveil 14 дней назад

Glad to hear we've opened your mind to the item :) Hope it provides some wins for you

@user-ol1pm2iw9j 4 дня назад

This item is actually so useful. They need to fix the description. You can finally kill annoying heroes with insane stat stacking abilities and passives.

@beneaththeveil 4 дня назад

Very true. Valve usually comb through some of the spell and item descriptions and refresh them with each patch but there are some like Nullifier which have slipped through the cracks.

@recnelizgaming Месяц назад

new subscriber here. very nice content. even i play dota 2 since 2013, some items ng mechanics of the game i cant even understand cuz no time to try it now.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

DOTA 2 is a complicated game. We aren't surprised that those who don't nerd out about the game like we do don't know all these things. We're constantly forgetting and relearning things as the years go by. There's just so many interactions and exceptions.

@makkar7 Месяц назад

Very informative clip. Good job sire!!!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Thank you!

@zo9fg Месяц назад

ur channel is underrated and im glad youtube algo picked this vid up

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad you think so! We've been pleasantly surprised at the reception for sure. Thank you for your kind words :)

@whitecrow20XX Месяц назад

Thank you for providing this knowledge for the community.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

No worries! Glad people find it helpful

@user-vg3xu4yl3c Месяц назад

Idk if someone mentioned it, but PA's Deadly Focus state (from her Coup De Grace ulti), which is a buff that makes her next attack critical, can be dispelled with any dispel. Nullifier too :)

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

In our testing, the Deadly Focus buff wasn't being dispelled. We know the bonus attack speed from Phantom Strike is purgeable though, as listed in the video description.

@cjcolon507 Месяц назад

@@beneaththeveilit did dispel PA Ult crit, but they fixed that 2-3 patches ago so you cant dispel PA ult unless break is active on pa

@Undead94100 Месяц назад

There are a bunch of additional dispellable buffs that can be removed by Nullifier, although the impact from doing so varies a lot. These are: Alchemist's Berserk Potion (Shard) Ogre Magi's Fire Shield (Shard) Primal Beast's Uproar (the buff itself, not the stack counter) Slardar's Guardian Sprint Bloodseeker's Blood Mist barrier (Scepter) Clinkz' Strafe Drow Ranger's Gust movement speed bonus Gyrocopter's Rocket Barrage Phantom Lancer's Phantom Rush Sniper's Concussive Grenade self-knockback (Shard) Spectre's Dispersion active (Shard) Keeper of the Light's Recall (Shard) Lina's Laguna Blade supercharge (removes buff that provides 10/15 Fiery Soul stacks upon cast, but 7 regular stacks will still remain) Shadow Demon's Disseminate (when applied as a buff) Warlock's Upheaval attack speed bonus (talent, only when lingering outside of Upheaval's radius) Beastmaster's Primal Roar movement speed bonus Chen's Penitence (removes Chen's bonus attack range buff and attackers' attack speed buff, but attack speed buff will be reapplied when a unit with Penitence is being attacked after Nullifier's duration is over) Lone Druid's Savage Roar buff (Shard) Snapfire's Lil' Shredder Vengeful Spirit's stolen armor and damage buff (talent) Mjollnir's Static Charge

@lull9075 Месяц назад

did not see if anyone commented about it, but Snapfire's Shredder is dispellable too! Works good when facing late-game physical Snapfire

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Good catch! Sneaky spells not being listed as dispellable strike again. Well done! Will add it to the description with credit :)

@Tirishhai Месяц назад

Just a side note, i think the tooltip for deathseeker has the dispellable tag cuz it used to make the target ethereal, they often forget to remove these things rightaway

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

That explains it! Thought it might have been a carry over that wasn't edited out

@lettusse5561 Месяц назад

This information would have definitely helped me in a number of games

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to hear! I've certainly found myself in the same situation at times

@jonocana8925 Месяц назад

The amount of information in this video deserves a sub and a like! Thank you, dude. this is very informative for a herald like me. LOL!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad it helped! You're very welcome

@rmac02 Месяц назад

Nice video, great detail

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you :)

@slick8098 Месяц назад

You are doing gods work, please continue

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad you think so! And doubly glad to know you enjoyed the video

@shinoa8994 Месяц назад

thank you so much man for this information, I'm new to this game and i find it annoying to fight supports that has any items that can prevent them from dying in the last second and escaping. gonna sub to this one

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to hear we helped! Welcome aboard

@CommonConnoisseurs Месяц назад

Breath the Veil on a roll ⭐ very sick

@imfinishedgrinding638 Месяц назад

This is the stuff right here! Can't wait for more!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to hear! Hope to see you around more in the future!

@imfinishedgrinding638 Месяц назад

@@beneaththeveil Can't promise you that I'll comment every vid from now on but I know for sure I now have another informative dota channel to look forward to 👍 Edit: Your old stuff are solid ngl

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@imfinishedgrinding638 All good! We have plenty of people who happily watch each video from the shadows so you're in good company. Glad to hear you're enjoying all the information we have to offer.

@tanerbaubec Месяц назад

thanks for the video! would have loved to dive more into all the abilities the nullifier dispels but maybe it be a very long video. Does Nullifier dispel Sven's ult?

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

You're welcome! We would have too but the video was already too long. Nullifier does not dispel his ult, only Warcry.

@Doflaminguard 29 дней назад

Usually, ultimate transformation type ultimates arent dispellable.

@Jlewis0201 Месяц назад

Amazing explanation

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad it was helpful!

@hassaanz Месяц назад

Thanks. It helped me decide that I should buy nullifier on my Mid Lich to get out of Guardian bracket

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Best of luck out there, soldier!

@normalguyishere Месяц назад

nice tutorial! THanks!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

You're welcome! Glad it was helpful :)

@theflame9 Месяц назад

2:15 Omni 2nd skill “Repel” does protect all positive buff from being removed from itself or if cast on ally. E.g Omni repel plus guardian angel plus ghost scepter (3buffs) if nullifier is cast on this target it retains all 3 buffs.

@theflame9 Месяц назад

also 13:52 repel is undispellable by nullifie, is only dispellable if its strong dispel which nullifier isnt

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Partially correct! Repel does protect from Nullifier due to the Debuff Immunity which is part of the spell, which we had overlooked in testing due to the huge amount of testing we were doing in researching for the video. Strong Dispels however, can only currently be applied to allied heroes. We added the note about no buffs requiring a Strong Dispel to remove at the start of the video in order to future proof this video just in case Valve does to us what they did in 7.33 and drastically change a core mechanic like they did altering Magic Immunity into Debuff Immunity. What you need in order to remove Repel is a skill which pierces debuff immunity AND dispels. Three examples of this are Shadow Demon's Demonic Purge, Doom's Doom and Winter Wyvern's Winter's Curse.

@bragot Месяц назад

Nice video! Can you do one on Armlet next? 😎

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Will put it on the list!

@kannonfrost665 Месяц назад

thanks for the info

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

you're welcome!

@JovanKK Месяц назад

Awesome content man Instant subs, thanks

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Thanks for the sub! Welcome! Glad you're enjoying

@JovanKK Месяц назад

@@beneaththeveil Can u make a video about drafting on ranked? Some tips maybe about how to learn about hero counter etc? Thanks in advance

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

@@JovanKK It's something we'll consider, but it's a very nuanced subject since the only players who typically get any sort of counter drafting in pubs is cores against the support picks and the last pick against 4 out of 5 heroes. If the drafting order changes and goes towards captain's mode it's something we'll consider, otherwise we'll probably talk about it more when we make hero specific videos and what heroes they don't want to draft into.

@JovanKK Месяц назад

@@beneaththeveil Awesome, waiting for more content man, thanks!

@pickin7654 24 дня назад

The worst part for Nullifier is that, it should have able to dispel or disable Wraith King ultimate as it mention the passive is dispellable. However we did tried using it against Wraith King, he still get reincarnated.

@beneaththeveil 24 дня назад

There's a misunderstanding of how Reincarnation works at play. There are actually several effects going on simultaneously. When Reincarnation triggers, Skeletons are spawned, there is also a slow applied to all enemies and then Wraith King reappears. The slow applied to enemies is dispellable, which is what the tooltip alludes to.

@TheMrRgon Месяц назад

RU-vid brought me here so I'll leave some hopefully helpful feedback. 0. Firstly the video is good, the production and visuals are high quality and it shows that you have a good understanding of the game. 1. The title & video length. As someone who believes he understands how nullifier works its hard to see why an explanation would take 17 minutes which made me think I must be missing something, this is an ok expectation to create for a viewer but I don't believe the video delivered. I feel one of the reasons for this is because this video involves a lot of specific hero counter ideas that also go far beyond nullifier which is fine but not what I was expecting. 2. Padding, a lot of time is used up to create long formed full sentences for every point which are not really required for the viewer to understand the idea, for example at 4:27 it takes almost 20 seconds to say that it works on crimson guard. I understand the idea that you want to tell the viewer that there are other items but a simple mention would do. 3. Presentation, this connects to the last point in that some things can be showed to the viewer or simply mentioned and when accompanied by a good visualization it can do a good enough job to convey the message without a full description. For example incorporating a tier-list (or similar tool) for heroes and items makes it easy for the viewer to understand which of those are important, which are nice to have and which are not affected. It also it makes it easy for the viewer to check back without needing to guess the timestamp for each item/hero. The image used for the heroes does not accomplish this goal because I don't know why I should care if I'm debuffing a movement ability or a right click buff I just want to know if its a good purchase. 4. Nullifier, this should have been the focus of the video but it feels that the tips and actual unique behaviors (such as bkb) are barely mentioned. After watching the video I can tell you which items and heroes the works well against, but, I have no clue of: a. When to buy nullifier as far as build order. b. Which heroes/positioned are best suited to buy the item. c. How do I use the item in a team fight. 5. Mechanics, I really like the bit at 6:28 showing the projectile and giving the simple suggestion that you can buy a blink and use it at melee, this is a very practical suggestion that might be obvious when said out loud but the average player could have easily missed it. I would have loved to see more stuff like this, for example talking about how Nullifier applies a debuff continuously so should I always use it at the start or wait? Does the hero/items change that choice? 6. Counters, understanding how enemy heroes can counter Nullifier can help me as a player to look out for these counters and recounter them. This point is never really addressed in the video properly. Overall this is a good video but if I'm being honest I would have stopped watching at about 7:00 if I didn't end up watching as a critique so I'm hoping this can help you moving forward.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Wow, this is a really well thought out comment. Thank you for taking the time to provide a critique. It's appreciated. We're sorry you didn't feel the video delivered on the expectation you had coming in. We design these videos for new players to the game so aim to be as in-depth as possible while also trying to keep videos as brief as practical in order to respect peoples time. We had to make some concessions in this video due to length so chose to utilise the description for the full breakdown of all hero interactions and focussed on highlighting the most important use cases. In hindsight: we could have done the same with items and realistically cut the overall video length down to ten minutes. We appreciate your other suggestions regarding tier lists etc. When scripting things out, we try to keep in mind that some people can hear something and understand it immediately, while others won't understand until they see it. Especially so if English isn't their first language. Due to this, we try to keep in mind when we can say something and immediately move on and when it's relevant to pad the script out a little so there isn't dead air while a supporting video plays out. I can understand why that's a pain point for you though. As far as structure: we try to design each video so that we explain the item in isolation up front and then in the back end we go into the details about what it works against and what counterplay there is. This is because some viewers will click on the video wanting to understand the item in isolation and then leave, while others will want both how it works in isolation as well as in context. We try to satisfy everyone by structuring our videos in this manner to serve both audiences. We mention up front that due to the prohibitive cost of Nullifier it should generally be purchased by core heroes but in late game scenarios there are times where support heroes can end up purchasing it too. As mentioned up front as well it should be purchased when you can feasibly kill an enemy within the 5 second continuous dispel window where they would otherwise use a spell or item to prevent you from killing them. We thought this succinct explanation answered when in a build order you should buy it and how to use it in a teamfight, but perhaps we should have belaboured this point more and explained you should purchase it once you have the items or abilities that enable you to kill a hero within the 5 second window of the continuous dispel. Or perhaps we should have again repeated these ideas at the end of the video to remind everyone who watched until the end. The reason counters aren't really mentioned is that there aren't that many counters. It's literally just BKB which supresses the effect, Linkens which absorbs it, a disjoint through items and spells that Blink or Hide the hero (Banishments, Tusk Snowball etc.) and Anti-Mage who can reflect the projectile (despite the fact Nullifier also purges his Counterspell if he activates it after he's nullified which is a weird and fun interaction). Lotus Orb doesn't stop it but reflects it back at you too so for a hero who has purgeable effects themselves playing with a Nullifier into a Lotus Orb we felt it was important to briefly highlight too. Again, we appreciate your critique and hope you appreciate that we felt we had addressed the majority of your questions, but perhaps just didn't present it in a way you understood - which is on us. We hope you stick around and continue to provide feedback. It's always helpful to have an outside perspective and outline where we didn't deliver on the things we set out to.

@King_Bitcoin Месяц назад

FUN TIPS: if just 1hero have ghost scepter or ghost scepter skill buy nulliffier but if the 1 player have euls, forcestaff, glimmer, aeon disk and ghospter/ skills buy BOTH nullifer and revenant

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Revenant's Brooch is another way to pierce through the Ethereal state for sure! But if you can kill a hero in the 5 second window of the Nullify active then there's no need to get Revenant's Brooch as well.

@Ben_diez Месяц назад

What weather do you use in this video, looks so beautiful, nice info btw

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

It's the DOTA+ Spring terrain :)

@AlveolarNasal Месяц назад

This is very useful. Thanks.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad it was helpful! You're very welcome. Happy Gaming!

@mamamiomima1408 Месяц назад

Another important interaction - Nullifier doesnt disspell Shadow Blade. Problemm with Grimmstroke - if he have a shard and target is stunned/silenced or controled in any other way and Grim himself cant trigger use. Nullifier bassically disspells everything from that hero, which is counter intuetive and can lead to lost fight

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Nullifier doesn't dispel Shadow Blade, correct. The invisibility on Shadow Amulet, Shadow Blade and Silver Edge is only dispelled on death (Shadow Amulet invis dispelled by moving too). If Grimstroke has shard and applies Ink Swell to a target who has the Nullify active on them: the Ink Swell instantly detonates and the target still receives a Strong Dispel. Unsure if this is what you were explaining or not :)

@_HaSSaaN_ Месяц назад

Great information

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Thank you. Glad you found it helpful

@jarmago7750 Месяц назад

Bruh, you deserve more subs!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Thank you! We're sure they'll come with time

@jvanrood 28 дней назад

10:15, nullifier significantly reduces sniper's own shard knockback (similarly to force staff), but your own knowback is unchanged since it's a debuff on you

@beneaththeveil 27 дней назад

Good to know! As someone who never plays Sniper but plays against him plenty I've never really become that well acquainted with the nuances of the grenade. Appreciate you letting everyone know

@meiliu6231 22 дня назад

Hi, great video. What about nyx? Can nullify work against any of the hero's abilities?

@beneaththeveil 22 дня назад

Hey there! No, Nyx Assassin's abilities can not be dispelled in any way.

@TheFiith 15 дней назад

very well done video!

@beneaththeveil 15 дней назад

Thank you very much!

@hirotohayato4309 Месяц назад

This item was so OP when it still has the effect to mute hero, you can't use any item so combo with orchid and the one got debuff will surely dead, it even pierce linken back then too

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Yeah it was pretty nuts hahahaha. Have seen people claim the item became useless once the mute was removed and it's like... "Do you even know what it does? The mute was just a bonus" Dota is much more interesting when heroes aren't buying the same 6 items every game because those items are hideously overpowered. Much more interesting when there's completely different builds depending on your allies and enemies

@hellnickyable Месяц назад

Great vid, while nullifier is great to be used as a counterplay. but the current gamestate makes nullifier less desirable. this is because items such as aeon disk or euls will still gives you the dispel despite it being immediately removed by nullifier. so for example, you got hex'd and you'd get chain stun. if you have aeon disk and bkb, nullifier is practically useless since the moment you're down to 70% hp and proc nullifier, you'll be able to use bkb and get out of that chain-stun. nullifier IS the answer/ counterplay to people who doesn't respect your burst damage or doesn't buy bkb. That's why we rarely see nullifier in pro play now since heroes that are countered hard by nullifier like necrophos is not picked that often. and to counter heroes like MK's jingu, darkseer's surge. pro player usually prefers using euls/windwaker or just disengage (with bkb and whatnot) from leshrac.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

We'd definitely agree on the current game state making Nullifier a less desirable option in general. It still for sure has it's place in the right games, especially in the pub scene where things are far more chaotic and less cohesive. Your point about Nullifier's relevance in pro play is totally valid in terms of the safety of the dispel giving the opportunity to cast BKB and then back off in a co-ordinated fashion: but that's a wasted resource that then has a route for reasonable counterplay and forces the team who have the Aeon Disk and BKB on cooldown to be more passive and give more of the map away out of respect to the cooldowns which is an advantage to the team leveraging the pressure of the Nullifier. This is an incredibly interesting but also deeply faceted aspect of the game that goes swiftly over the average player's head though. It's funny you mention Eul's and Wind Waker. We're actually working on a video for those two items now. It's the natural follow up to this video as they do all the aggressive dispels Nullifier does, while giving all the defensive dispels that BKB and Manta Style etc. give. Along with the 2.5s invulnerability to disjoint projectiles like you can with Blink Daggers and straight up just avoid huge ultimates like Thundergod's Wrath or Reaper's Scythe which any other item in the game cannot guarantee but can try to save from. They're a killer set of items that are even more complex than Nullifier is. This was the natural first step to save a bunch of explaining in that one video. We appreciate you stopping by, it's clear you're a very knowledgeable player - definitely not our target audience ;)

@mezoneiisbored1576 Месяц назад

if u ever see nechro in the enemy team always build nulifier i usually play pa and my build is usually bkb deso nulifier khanda basher and phase boots sceptre aswell ur crit will reach above 2k and u can one shot dagger supports if u have deadly focus as u have khanda

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Yes, we agree that Nullifier is a must buy item against Necrophos. Regardless of whether it's a good Nullifier game against any of the other heroes or their items

@rahulpillai1271 Месяц назад

I think its worth mentioning Muerta ult and OD with a scepter hp buff is non dispellable with Nullifer. I got baited into countering an OD scepter with a nullifer but clearly didnt work

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

We debated if we should talk about things that aren't dispelled but then decided it was too long even while not covering everything that is dispelled. We opted to make a comprehensive list of everything that is dispellable in the description in hopes that players would realise if it wasn't on the list that was because it wasn't dispellable.

@grenadedFalafel Месяц назад

I love you, i needed this!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to be of service

@TotzkieGG Месяц назад

Okay I'm subscribing, thank you for this.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Welcome aboard!

@affanhasby822 3 дня назад

The might rush linken so always be aware you should prepare another single target spell to break linken. And also wait their bkb timing window. Everything could happen in 5 seconds in a late game.

@beneaththeveil 3 дня назад

Exactly :) Need to be mindful of the few counterplay options

@shmelvinjoestar3586 Месяц назад

Nullifier also dispels bloodseeker's aghanism scepter shield btw! I would say it is a hard counter to BS

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Correct! We had a viewer point it out to us last week and while we'd copped the Bloodrage being dispellable we'd completely overlooked the overheal shield. A nice piece of counterplay for sure

@2peterpunz139 Месяц назад

Question though in some effects....does the nullifier application works even after the buff activate it? Does it dispel it? Or you should null the hero before he buff themselves so that the debuff will work?

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Yes, any dispellable effect that is active when the Nullify active is applied will instantly dispel the buff. Similarly, any dispellable buff that is activated during the Nullify active duration will also be instantly dispelled :) The only way to avoid having your buffs dispelled is by having Debuff Immunity active, absorbing the projectile with Linken's Sphere or disjointing the projectile through Blink Daggers or going invisible with Shadow Amulet, Shadow Blade and Silver Edge provided the enemy don't have True Sight applied in the area at the time

@yangpentingaming Месяц назад

NGL.. this item is very important to play PA, and I mostly use it, since a lot of support carrying ethereal blade, and build aeon disk. Once PA jump and cant hit, actually make us easy to die, with this item, you can easily burst down important support on the team.

@ljumbergking Месяц назад

I love to punish Necro in nace game I never know how this itam work. Now I know thx for video👌👌👌

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

You're welcome! Nullifier is the best item to make a Necro player cry :)

@valour549 Месяц назад

Why does the alt-description of nullifier say it pierces magic immunity (or more correct debuff immunity), yet it doesn't affect BKB'ed targets?

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Magic Immunity was removed from the game in the 7.33 New Frontiers update and Black King Bar was reworked to provide Debuff Immunity instead, however the tooltip was not altered. It's fairly common for Valve to not update tooltips for ages and then with each major gameplay patch they go through and correct various ones. Nullifier has probably just slipped through the cracks in that regard.

@minisevilla707 Месяц назад

I like this kind of content of yours, to guide newbies like me. On how an item work. If u dont mind, can u make some hero skills too. 🎉

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

There's a guy called Adrian who dives deep into particular hero skills and explains how they work. We've made a playlist that heavily features his videos along with some other creators explaining lots of specific mechanics of dota, whether that be a game mechanic, skill mechanic, or item mechanic. You can find the playlist here: ru-vid.com/group/PLH44R6CnLKaIa3FGcQwuifUw6AheM0AKG If you'd like to go check out Adrian specifically, you can find him here: www.youtube.com/@zzadrianzz Make sure to tell him we sent you :)

@EdeYOlorDSZs Месяц назад

Great video!

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. Hope you stick around for more :)

@NorwegianQvirr 7 дней назад

Went weaver mid yesterday against a pugna. Struggled to keep him off the tower and it eventually fell as i rotated. I did win the lane relatively speaking (landing a kill on him at lvl 4/5) but went a relatively early nullifier to counter his self banish. Pleasantly surprised when I saw his next item purchased immediately fail him as my nullifier instantly removed his eul’s and later messed him up badly when his wind waker didn’t allow him to relocate across a ledge and thus his positioning cost them the fight 🎉

@beneaththeveil 7 дней назад

Well done! Always satisfying when you see enemies keep investing money into items you already deal with through your itemisation. It's just free MMR they're donating at that point

@NorwegianQvirr 7 дней назад

@@beneaththeveil best part? He was a true gent about in post game, both calling me out for being annoying af and saying wp haha :)

@beneaththeveil 7 дней назад

@@NorwegianQvirr aw, so wholesome. Got to treasure the positive interactions with strangers in this game hahaha

@NorwegianQvirr 6 дней назад

@@beneaththeveil they’re definitely not more prevalent than their counterpart 😅

@krnzzang84 Месяц назад

Subscribed broooo

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Glad to hear! Thank you

@adithyashenal1132 Месяц назад

I realy didnot played dota from years. I searched about Nullifier years ago, i mean before atleast 5 years 😅. Now youtube suggest me this video, Good old days🍃

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Perhaps this is your sign from the universe to come back? ;)

@gutsglory3625 12 дней назад

I always buy it and pair with skadi whenever dealing against razor and bb.

@beneaththeveil 12 дней назад

Glad to hear :)

@rafaelybanez4729 Месяц назад

POV: only buy nullifier when necrophos fat

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

Nullifier is definitely the king of aggressive dispels when it comes to dealing with Necrophos!

@jadetaylor6093 Месяц назад

Healing applied to a hero under false promise is immediately applied even if its spaced over time otherwise.

@beneaththeveil Месяц назад

You're partially correct in your understanding of the spell but mislead in the way it functions. All healing applied is delayed in the same way that damage incurred during False Promise is. Then at the end of the duration of False Promise, all incurred healing is doubled and applied first before the incurred damage is applied. If the healing buff of Purifying Flames is dispelled, it stops calculating that healing and thus Oracle ends up harming his ally. You can try it yourself in a demo lobby. Turn on free spells and have Oracle False Promise an ally immediately followed by the Nullify active from an enemy unit. Then only using Purifying Flames: spam it on a hero during the 5s window of the Nullify active and stop before it wears off as otherwise you'll be applying healing. Wait for the False Promise to expire and watch as your ally gets nuked off the back of only your Purifying Flames, which debunks your understanding of the hero. Nullifier still gives ample counterplay to Oracle's protection: there's just a guaranteed window they will live through based on the duration of False Promise itself which cannot be dispelled.