Totally agree with @scottplaysgolf's comments! You kept my attention from beginning to end and your end product is extremely functional and attractive. What is your goal for your RU-vid channel?
Thank you, @jimsimpson2393! That really means a lot. We worked pretty hard on this one knowing it would probably be my most watched release with the most reusable info. My vision for the channel is a migrating style. The first part is to prove technology can change the way golf is learned. I play and learn inside for a year and see what I can score. This will give me content regarding the variables golf holds on an outdoor course vs. indoor sim, and allows me to then find the balance of indoor practice to outdoor practice to get a completed timeline of brand new to breaking 80 assuming I do not get there on my first round. I do hold realistic expectations. The channel will then migrate to a heavy focus on the new and average golfer. Taking my experience learning on a simulator, sharing it, and continuing to make golf more accessible by changing the way golf is learned by using simulator technology. Really drive home the idea of practicing indoor to improve your fun outdoors. Content on getting folks into the right sim for them. I will take my personal challenge from breaking 80 to breaking par and gaining a 0 handicap outside. That will include online competition and continuing my path of working with PGA Professionals to improve my game at a rapid pace. I will also have fun with notable courses by playing X course for a month and then taking a buddy to play the course outside who have never played the course, showing how you can use a sim to fully enjoy a bucket list course through preparation. So in short and by priority: 1: Beginner to average golfer simulator usage to increase accessibility and practice to supplement their outdoor game. 2: Documenting how quickly I can break 80, then par, then get a scratch handicap. 3: Simulator usage to maximize your bucket list golf trips. This is planned to continue over the next 2 - 3 years and will certainly evolve as the market changes. What do you think?
@@goinforeit I think you have articulated a clear and very interesting set of goals. I have not seen any RU-vid channels pursuing anything like what you are describing. I will be watching with interest. You may be able to teach this old dog some new tricks (77 yrs young shooting in the mid eighties from the forward tees). I wish you good fortune.
@@jimsimpson2393 Jim, thanks again. Your support means more than you think. My advice is keep playing from those forward tees! There is no shame. No matter how much pressure the cool kids give. A big push of mine will be to push more forward tee play. If you want to see anything specific or have recommendations, shoot me an email: tuftsje@gmail . Would love to hear from you.
@oc3125, thank you! That means a lot, I appreciate the time to comment. I really enjoyed making this video and will have to find a way to expand on it. Even 9 months later I am still a kid in a candy store when I walk in.
Being an avid MTBer myself and golf lover, I really enjoyed the intro. ha! This is an absolute dream space setup. Great looking build out and nice details in the video!
Alright! I love to hear it, man. I still maintain the same hours I did before golf and I've been having fun trying to sort out how I play based on when, how long, and how hard I ride. I'm going to play around with the drone footage and get some really cool reveal footage to publish. Thanks for the kind words and go rip some trail!
Best of luck when you get there, and thank you for subscribing! I'll be creating much more around the construction and utilization of sims over the next few weeks to help folks as much as I can.
You're very welcome! I really enjoy making these videos and sharing my love for indoor golf with the world. My hope is to install simulators professionally and help as many folks build their own simulators as I possibly can. Thank you for watching and for commenting!
Awesome video man...building one right now and youve confirmed my idea about wrapping rigid foam insulation for the wall panels and getting a Carls place enclosure.
Yessir! My original plan was to stick to the Carl’s enclosure but the echo was terrible for filming. The insulation was key to solving that. Plus, it came out really nice! Very easy to do, just takes time. My email is in my profile I believe, so feel free to reach out if you have questions. Thanks for the nice words!
Ha! I wish my neighbors took more advantage of the sim. I am sure I will become much more popular as the season comes to an end. 8' tall ceilings definitely make it a bit tough. It's crazy just how important certain dimensions are for a sim. Time for a sim shed? :)
thanks for the video! I randomly found your videos and love the detail of how you put it together. Im building my sim right now and would love to see more info about the side foam panels! How would you have gone out to 6' if you did it again? Where did you source your foam for it? are you happy with how they bounce back if hit?
Thank you, and glad you enjoyed it! It was a fun project. The side panels are Owens Corning 703 2", I had to ship them in as they are a specialty product, and nobody locally stocked them. The shipping cost as much as a box of them, which is why I only went out to 48". In hindsight, I would have spent the extra $120 to come out to 60" for a better look on the sides and slightly better coverage on the ceiling. The impact is fine, I can't say I've hit it more than once or twice. The panels are semi-rigid foam, so they are already stiff(ish). To give me a solid mount I bought 1/2" styrofoam insulation panels the same size from HD and used the 3M 90 spray adhesive between the two. I had cut 59" black canvas duck fabric (10z) into pieces that would fit, placed the glued panels face down, sprayed a ton of the same adhesive on the back of the styrofoam panel about 4" around, and just folded the fabric over and held it so it stuck and kept a nice and tight look. The corners take some practice, but it's a simple project, just time-consuming. But far cheaper than buying panels. The mounting was 2 velcro strips from HD, one on each side pushed on the wall. I'm happy to talk you through it, just PM me and I'll give you my number.
Boom👏, this is the home sim build video I've been wishing for. Your setup (panels and paint are complete FIRE 🔥 ) Thank you for walking us through your entire thought process and build. Question about audio: you mention in the description that you are using a Bose 300 soundbar. Where did you place it? IE: how far back, position bottom, center, top? Would you have done something different for watching movies?
This comment made my day! Thank you for watching, and I really appreciate the kind words. If you look closely in the drone footage when I ride out of the garage, there is a window on the back wall. The sound bar is sitting on the window sill. It works 'okay', but It's not immersive for movies whatsoever. It's enough for sports, though. So it's basically 12" behind the center of the screen, halfway up. Would I have done something different? Absolutely. In fact, this gives me an idea for another video for the build series. I have to do an update video as the computer is different. I've added a touch screen, club rack, and I now have mounted swing cameras. I wanted to do a full Dolby Atmos setup so bad, but I simply didn't have the extra $2500 at the time. I will eventually install something like that when I decide we need it. As much as I want it, our family doesn't really get to into the sound on movies (probably because we don't know what we are missing). So yes, if you are building out your sim and have the gear already or the means to get a solid setup, I'd do a receiver and full Atmos setup for a truly immersive experience. Even on the sim, the sounds would be so much more fun. Enjoy your build!
Killer setup and does not look like you are in a garage at all. Always disliked these tandem garage setups, but now I wish I had one. I have about the same width in the room I am planning on using. I am much shorter however so I am hoping I do not have any indoor swing syndrome. Though my miss is a slice so maybe that would help me get shallow on my swing plane. LOL I am building using stud walls angled out to my side walls from screen size I can fit using Carl's Place as well. Wish I could budget for a $16k overhead launch monitor but will be going with a Garmin R10 I think. I have my costs at $3100 all in for everything needed. Now to just start ordering and building.
Thanks, and thanks for watching! Glad it comes across as in some sort of professional studio and not a garage. :) It sounds like you have a great setup on the horizon! Don't get too locked in on the launch monitor. It's easy to think you need the best of the best, when all you really need is consistency in what LM you are using. Sure, you may lack some data right away, but you can always upgrade as you learn exactly what you want in an LM. The Garmin will be a fantastic place to start. Carl's is rad, they do an amazing job working with individuals to create the perfect setup for their budget and space. The screen will last you for years and the hitting mats are exceptional with very low hitting strip replacement costs. Your inside swing syndrome will go away very quickly. Heck, I've even moved to hitting driver from the center of my strip with no worries. Feel free to reach out as you go through your process with any questions. I am happy to help with product decisions and build advice. tuftsje@gmail.com will reach me.
Thank you! That is a great question. I had visions of adding some bits of foam under the turf to give my practice putts some movement, so I did not secure the putting surface or the gym flooring with anything. I never ended up doing that and It has never moved or become an issue. Towards the back of the studio, where I create the fringe, I used broad-headed finish nails from Home Depot (go to the specialty fastener section and look for the skinniest nail with the biggest head) and put nails in every 8" at the seam to keep that stuff down as it was constantly moving. The nails hide in the longer turf and are not noticeable. Ideally, I'd have used a pneumatic/electric finish stapler that can put in higher gauge staples that are long enough. If you want to secure your entire putting surface, I'd use reasonable spacing throughout without going overboard.
Jeremy thank you for this video I have started my build out and am using so many of your features as my blueprint. Can you elaborate on how you affix your turf to the ground (the athletic mat and wood below)?
Hi Steven, thanks for watching! I'm glad you could take away a few features to put into your build. My floor is actually floating. Because I have borders on 3 sides, I didn't need to affix it to the ground. The OSB floor is cut with about 1/8" around all three sides to allow for expansion and contraction due to temperature changes in my space. The interlocking gym floor sits on top of the OSB floating as well. The putting surface is then laid on top from edge to edge and is tucked under a 1/2" edging I built out of insulation and wrapped in black duck fabric to hide the seam, but it's cut pretty darn tight to the actual room edges. I did take a few broad-headed penny nails and placed them about 10" apart on either side of the fringe that I cut and placed for cosmetic purposes. That simply keeps the fringe from moving when people walk over it. That means the putting surface is only secured with 8 or 10 nails at the back against the fringe. I've never had any issues with the flooring being installed as floating vs. glued down. This also allows me to make any changes in the future if needed without having to trash the entire floor upon removal. If that doesn't answer your questions as much as you'd like, shoot me an email and i'll gladly expand for you. tuftsje@gmail (.com)
I wouldn't change anything regarding the side impact panels. In fact, I am even happier that I didn't just buy them online.. For how much they cost pre-built, I simply would have been annoyed if I hadn't built them myself and saved a significant amount of money. They still look new, come off easy when needed, and I have had zero issues with them falling off. I will probably build it out to another 12" when the challenge is over and I take some time off golf, as the extra coverage would be nice. The only change I'd make is to the ceiling panels. I would (will) make more of the side panels and use those on the ceiling as well, rather than the foam sound tiles I used from Amazon. Mainly because the adhesive eventually fails and I have to constantly respray and reattach the tiles. I am going to make a video of exactly how I built the panels in the next couple of weeks. I've been asked a lot about them.
I am in the process of building a sim myself,, Currently using a net return to hit balls, Can you share the dimensions of your screen? I didn't see it mentioned anywhere unless I missed it. Thanks in advance and great video,
Hi! Congratulations on your build! My screen is 13.5’ x 8.9’ - I’ve got plenty of room for more height, but wanted to maintain a 16:10 aspect ratio for 4K. If you have any questions regarding the size of screen you should install in your space with a specific aspect ratio, give Carl's Place a call and they'll get you squared away.
It’s 13’8”. I’m 6’2” and have plenty of room with a driver. 15’ wide is ideal for left and right-hand golfers to hit from the middle. I put my tee in about 8” passed center to give extra room. I had some tall golfers with really flat swing catch the wall with their driver, but this solved it. Haven’t had an issue since. My AboutGOLF unit gives me a rather large hitting area that allows for it.
@@LafoRTS at 13' 8" wide, it's pretty tight. I'm 6'2" and don't have a flat swing, and I place the tee as far away from the wall as my unit will read so I have comfort swinging a driver. My lefty buddies do the same just out of comfort but have plenty of room as they are shorter than me. So if your launch monitor has a reading area that will allow you to do that, then yes, you'll be fine. But if you have to hit right in the middle, you will be limited to irons. I do have buddies who are 6'4" and they have room in my studio if they push it out. Longer explanation shorter... find out the area your monitor will read, mark it, and place the ball as far away as you can and swing a driver to see if you have room. I have a few friends who refuse to swing driver because they have a fear of hitting the wall, even if I take a video and show them they have ample room. I believe the minimum if you google it is 14', but you can get around that. 12' will rely 100% on the launch monitor's read area. If you haven't purchased one yet, just call the manufacturers you are looking at and get the area it will read. All are different. Good luck, and let me know! I'd love to know if you can make it work. If you want to chat more about it, send me an email and we can find a time to chat on the phone. tuftsje@gmail (.com). Would be happy to do so!
Sure thing! Here are the exact notes from the designer over at Carl's. --- Overall Room Dimensions: 127"H x 164"W x 240"D Overall DIY Enclosure Frame Dimensions: 103.5"H x 160"W x 59.125"D Viewable Screen Dimensions: 94.5"H x 151"W
It's a 1" rigid styrofoam insulation foam sheet with 1" Owens Corning 703 (semi rigid sound insulation), wrapped in 10oz duck fabric. I needed the sound insulation to make the studio acoustics better for filming. If I would do it again, i'd have used 2" 703 and mounted it directly to the wall somehow.
@@rjpimprov no problem. Getting turf where I'm at was quite difficult, so I went through Turf Factory Direct and got their Putting Elite product. Shipping was reasonable and their customer service was fantastic. 255sqft was $864.45 - $172.99 discount + $99 Shipping for a total of $790.56.
@@goinforeit ...that's crazy. i was going to guess $800. I'm in the process of doing one in a warehouse and using a bunch of your ideas! Like the side panels and the acoustic tiles above....good idea for bounce back. if i go with the carls screen i'll be sure to use your link.
@@djryanparker Good guess! You should go buy a lottery ticket... That's awesome that you are using some of my ideas. That's really cool to hear. Regarding the ceiling tiles, I think the idea of the bounce back is great, but I do think it could be rethought and done a bit better. Email me and let's find some time to chat, I can also help detail the side panels a bit. tuftsje@gmail.com
It's an Aputure HR672S. I use it for filming and rely on an adjustable 6 bulb track light I bought at Lowes. I swapped out the stock bulbs for smart bulbs so I could color match all my lighting and brightness for play. I try my best to not washout the screen when playing so I can get the best experience.
@@goinforeit At first I was inclined to go the same way since barndoors on a 1K LED panel splash so much light, but ended up going with a Neewer CB200B 210W LED Video Light, flag and snoot.
@@goinforeit Great and since these use the industry standard Bowen mounting system including affordable light modifiers for high frame rate video cameras, consider something like Westcot FJ400 Snoot with Honeycomb Grid, Bowens BW-1888 15 Degree Snoot. Of if you need a broader light, look at something like a 55 Degree Wide Umbrella Reflector with Honeycomb Grids (FJ400), softboxes, etc. Just be aware if you're not using a tripod (not appropriate in a nice Golf Sim IMO but fine for extemporaneous odd jobs like filming gigs), consider getting a wall/ceiling mount that has a pin like this one: Avenger Wall Plate, Baby w/16mm/5/8in Fixed Spigot. Good luck.
For how much the seasons changed in the before and after, you'd think I made the trek up north to do a lap of Galbraith. I'm also due... been long enough that I need to go back and check it out!
@goinforeit Good on ya - as you said, it's an investment that definitely appreciates your home and even as a home theater it differentiates you from the rest of the pack. Thanks for sharing your awesome setup and I'm sure you and your family will get many years of enjoyment. Of course as we all know, a golf sim is always work in progress! Happy golf trails.
@@CaliforniaTravelVideos Thank you! Always a work in progress :). I appreciate the kind words and I imagine the sim studio will continue to be heavily used after the challenge is over. After I attempt to break 80, I have to grind until I do break 80, and then, we chase scratch! With the crazy real estate market we have here in Bend, anything helps to separate from the pack. The sim/theater will do just that.
Their mission matched mine of making golf more accessible to everyone. I also wanted the most accurate technology that had no delay from impact and allowed me to work on my entire game. aG does short game very well, if not the best in the industry. All vital to my challenge.
The side and ceiling panels are backed with styrofoam insulation sheets you can get from Home Depot. The side panels are cut to size (24" X 48") and the ceiling is done in two sheets, 1 full 8' by 4', and the other was cut down to fill the remaining 5 1/2 ish feet. The Side panels needed to be removable for access to the enclosure frame so I used construction adhesive and heavy-duty velcro strips (enough to do the trick, not too much) and the ceiling sheets are screwed into the studs. My overall goal was to have a clean and luxurious look.
@@goinforeit thanks for this reply. I have so many more questions. Would love to get your email or something so I could reach out. Can’t tell you how far down the rabbit hole I’ve been on this.
@@89hilger tuftsje[at]gmail shoot me your phone number and a good time to call tomorrow. Looking forward to getting you out of that rabbit hole! 😂 (I’ve been there man, and 2 years of research to find my way out)
@@89hilger Let's connect this week so we can get your questions answered. Or shoot me a list and I'll release a video answering them. I'd bet the questions you have, are the questions millions of other folks have.
This set up is in the $40 - 50k range. However, you can build something similar with different technology for well under $10,000. I saved quite a bit by doing a lot of work myself. I’ve helped build very nice looking sims for under $4000 and quite a few under $1500 if you know how to bargain shop.
Yea, around that, ish. Editing on this one was Devon Lyons of Outsight Studio in Bend, Oregon. But my wife definitely makes the wheels turn on a lot of the other ones! Going to keep'em coming as much as I can. Thanks for watching!
LOL! This made me laugh. You aren't wrong... that space really is the size of a small apt, isn't it? The carzy part is that I don't live in anything above the average home here in Bend. This particular builder just decided to put in a garage space that was more than sufficient. I'm working on a video on how to do a pop-up simulator for a reasonable price that you could do anywhere. Should hopefully help expand the idea beyond my excessive set-up.
