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How I determine the thickness for a guitar back 

Chuck Morrison
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A quick look at how I determine what thickness to use for a guitar back, across species of woods. The intro and end features great guitarist Alfredo Muro playing Deixa on my 215th guitar back in 2013. What I have to say can be pedantic, but Alfredo is always worth listening to.

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@ggergg6423
@ggergg6423 9 месяцев назад
Yep, I have used a similar approach/jig and it works. By the way, I love your videos and building style.
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 8 месяцев назад
Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear that others are doing this as well.
@mikehasson6146
@mikehasson6146 7 месяцев назад
I'm wondering why you wouldn't make your "standard" size for testing the same as a back or side so you could test the actual piece you would be building with? I've seen a great variety of stiffness from pieces of the same species of wood. You could always place the back or side so that you were measuring the same way (centered in both length and width for example).
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 7 месяцев назад
Yes, there can be a good deal of difference between samples of wood of the same species, which is why I test. I standardize on a smaller piece because I build more than one body shape, so standardizing on a full back would not be helpful. In point of fact, I used to measure deflection in both directions and on the back itself. I found it awkward and unreliable with way too many variables to keep track of and account for. Whenever possible I try to keep it simple and effective.
@mikehasson6146
@mikehasson6146 7 месяцев назад
@@chuckmorrison so is the piece you test from the larger piece you intend to build from? I often don't have enough material to sacrifice a small sample for testing. I like the test setup, I guess I'm just wondering how to put it to use for each instrument I am building. Sorry if I'm being daft, I'm always looking for ways to make these types of assessments and I don't want to miss the chance to learn something that seems like it would be very helpful just because I'm missing something here
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 7 месяцев назад
Yes, the piece I test is usually from the area right next to the upper bout. I usually resaw my backs and have the spare area to test. Most presawn back wood also has enough to test in this area.
@willmorrison1022
@willmorrison1022 3 года назад
Good explanation. Is that the recording we did at your house? I haven't listened to it in a along time. I would change a few things, now, I think... BTW, someone beat me to the first upvote.
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 3 года назад
yes, it's from that day. I used the unedited version.
@FiddleSticks800
@FiddleSticks800 10 месяцев назад
Let me get this straight. You use a thickness, for any given wood, that matches the deflection of your rosewood standard?
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 10 месяцев назад
Yes. It's not rocket science, but it beats just thicknessing all woods the same regardless of density and/or stiffness.
@FiddleSticks800
@FiddleSticks800 10 месяцев назад
@@chuckmorrison, as an engineer, I appreciate your approach. How do you handle the thickness of a soundboard/top?
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 10 месяцев назад
Ah, It's a bit more complicated. I use 5 different species of woods for tops AND double top variants of each. Sitka spruce (rarely as solid, very heavy and stiff), Nootka cypress (rarely as solid, very flexible across the grain), Western red cedar, European spruce, Englemann spruce (similar to Euro spruce's stiffness & weight but softer). Of course wood varies within each species. For solid tops, I start out the same way measuring the longitudinal stiffness of a piece (all standardized dimensions except for thickness) of the top (from cutoff scrap). I compare it against a spruce/nomex/spruce or cedar/nomex/cedar standard stiffness and weight. I thickness the piece until it approaches the sample's stiffness('s). I determine how stiff the wood is across the grain and weigh the soundboard at the tested thickness. At this point I decide if it's a piece I want to use or not. If not, I repeat the process on the next candidate.
@BobStCyr
@BobStCyr 2 года назад
Humidity has to be watched as it can affect the measurement if there are large enough differences, ie. one day the mc is 25% and a couple of months later the mc is 80%, it will affect the wood flexibility.
@chuckmorrison
@chuckmorrison 2 года назад
I maintain my shop at 40% relative humidity (~68 deg F) all year long. All measurements are done at that level.
@riccardomoni3598
@riccardomoni3598 2 года назад
I have not understood anything
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