How I-Frames work with Fine Crucible Feather Talisman | Elden Ring PvP| Shadow of the Erdtree 

oooh time to learn

TY Mr Rust Bucket, now I will honour this tech by throwing +1 extra shit pot at swift slash gamers :D

I actually hope the heavy load shennanigans stay. Thats some smash melee tech shit right there lmao

The backstep i-frames seem powerful from what I've fought but I haven't fought many people using it.

This reminds me of Evade Lance builds from Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate where you just backhop through everything with Evasion +3.

0:14 Little fun fact, while DS1 did not have s on backsteps if you were wearing the Dark Wood Grain Ring the unique ninja backflip did have s.

Every fishers wet dream

absolutely my favorite mechanic returning from DS2. I knew a video like this would come out in no time, much appreciated.

I have to agree that the tali is not healthy in a fundamental sense but like you have said previously; the DLC has violated what was left of original souls PVP formula, and there are too many of these weapon and tali combinations to choose from that it almost no longer matters. I'm sure the comp scene will filter it out but for the average PVPer, it's a deafeningly bitter end. Sorry for the gloom, great vid as always Mr bucket!

The editing has gotten extremely good. Glad to have witness the rust evolution!

I was going to lament how much more reactive and passive this might make pvp, but then you pointed out it's use on swift slash spammers.

What a blessing of a channel you have been to this community 🙏

I'm going to get so many weird funny backstabs with this. Great video Rust!

I'm glad you put some DkS2 references 👌

Ty for educating us.

So this is the video you were talking about... This seems kind of broken with enough time put in to make it consistent, but at least swift slash now has some amount of a counter with FCF backsteps.

When I heard about this addition to ER I immediately got giddy. We still play DS2 over in the DS2 community because its just really dang fun. Backstep s are one of the reasons!

Welp, time to spend years of my life mastering heavy roll zweihander backsteps.

Thank you for explaining what it exactly does. I was really confused when I got it.

This is very helpful, thank you!

Very informative. Thank you!

Great video all around!

Time to learn how to backstep properly instead of reverse quickstepping. Excellent vid Rust.

Finally, I can beat the swift slash spammers, thank you, you’re the goat

This was very enjoyable to watch.

Glad to see someone praising the cool things that were possible in dark souls 2 pvp. It was the best pvp the series ever got

I got an ad from Chuck Norris to work out. This is wild. 😂 great video! Appreciate the knowledge and illustrations.

thank youuu! I was trying to find this!

Finally a ring to support my low poise fashion ravioli addiction 😩

i really like the balance of the heavy load cancel bc its locked behind having to use that specific block animation which is only on some doodoo weapons. it would seem broken bc almost infinite s but the skill floor is monsterously high and the lack of neutral from the weapons used is a bit of a pain. id say its one of the most fun mechanics tho bc it has some insane depth

Does anyone remember which video it was when rust just randomly started talking about castlevania?

I'll say it because no one else is brave enough to. I pogged.

I backstabbed a swift slash user and lost because of input drop smh! But thanks for this video. I only attempted this because I saw your video.

Great video brother 🙏

I USE this talisman like too days now and it's relly better then rolling

Your videos are so good!!!

Bruh. I just found you on duels as I was watching your video. Backstep backstab it's crazy

Very cool thank you 👍

Wow, so fat roll finally turns good with this tailisman.

Good stuff as aways

WaZeus is gonna terrorize the arena with this

He's just so slick with it

dang. this seems like some really strong tech

Nice it's crazy how well u know the mech of this game

Dude I miss DS2 so bad, first souls I got to play for its lifetime. I remember backstep parrying so many people off the bridge map in the arena. Shit was so much fun, even the old broken monastery scimitar parries. Hadouken, dual washies with throne watcher armor on the iron bridge, forbidden sun spam, actually cool sorceries. That shit was so much fun

Havin so much fun with this shit, hope it doesnt become a huge problem😵‍💫😵‍💫 great video as always💯💯💯

I sure do love new defensive options that can be used in duels and in general without a timer! *looks sadly at Deflecting Hardtear*

Really good vid rust

i love your vids, I remember watching your video on latency and i frames for ds3 lol

14:06 You broke that last guy's brain.

Heavy roll tech just made PVE insanely fun. You'll see people doing no dodge roll runs, just deflect and backstep

they got korean back dash in elden ring now

Last guy thought you were cheating, I don't blame them lol Great video, though the quality/bitrate of the actual fights is something to work on

I don't think I have enough skill to use this but it looks cool.

This video is so good

Have a Nice Death profile pic 👌 Seriously enjoyed that game

thanks for the plug og

Thank you for showcase a counter to those swift slash spammer, really flashy too. Also can you take a look at Deflect Tear mix ? I feel it make stun recovery really quick after a successful deflect compare to just block. I was able to deflect Swift Slash and backstabbed them with this talisman.

I-frames were originally given to backsteps in Dark souls 1. not dark souls 2. :^)

Yeah, when I first found it, I immediately went to test it out, being a big fan of backsteps in ds2. Iframe to recovery ratio is nuts, especially considering the way the lat plays into it. It's no skill ds2 backsteps, but with all the other crazy stuff in the game, it's doubtful that most will even give it a try. I'll still have some fun with it though

Never been a fan of souls PvP (thought I would as a For Honor player) but on PC and the horrendous frametime issues along with randomly connecting to people with various ping just make it unsavory. But man, this entire video was a really great showcase that I enjoyed watching all the way through. Awesome examples, and commentary for the actual demonstration clips was great.

Nice vid Rust, good info! Have you looked into the changed parryframes that came with patch 1.12?

13:00 boy Rust, was I happy to hear that (: f those flame balls

I imagine if this works with a weapon's feint animation (heavy cancel), it would make for some fluid combat.

My favourite least favourite talisman

Legend

Haven’t tried that new talisman yet! And now I think I won’t lmao

Ah yes finally overweight kara cancels with s

Executioner's greataxe is back on the menu (it never left)

Ravioli is back on the menu boys

And there are still people complaining about it having a -15% damage negation

makes me wonder how this affects the free backstep you get from the Smithscript Cirque's guard counter animation

I came for the talisman info (very helpful) but my biggest takeaway ended up being your explanation of how latency affects vulnerability windows for roll s. I didn't realize that the effective vulnerability window got smaller as latency increased; I always assumed that if I missed a roll catch due to latency, then I would have landed the hit if I had just delayed it a bit (which is how latency intuitively should work). If I understand correctly based on what you're saying: latency doesn't actually affect my target for punishing their roll animation? I should always be aiming to hit them at the beginning of their roll vulnerability (roughly when their butt hits the ground) - and the higher the latency is, the more the tail end of this vulnerability window shrinks, forcing me to land my hit earlier in the vulnerability window so it doesn't miss? All this assuming they buffer a second roll. So with some rough math: assuming this is based on 30fps, if we have 100ms (0.1 seconds) of latency, at 30fps that's 3 frames of latency. Which would mean for two buffered medium rolls, the normal 8 frame vulnerability window of the first roll gets 3 frames shaved off of the end, making it a 5 frame vulnerability window? But no matter the latency, I should always be aiming for the same spot in the beginning of the vulnerability window on my screen? Thanks for the video, subscribed 👍

Also, for newer players it could be helpful to show the reverse back step for grabbing someone that you are facing like you did here 9:58

This tech is very cool, but as you said it's not a good thing to have in the game. Mostly due to just how bad the netcode is for pvp, which is a big shame. But it is what it is, and thanks for sharing. Still fun to see exactly how this stuff works.

Time to master fat roll, I guess. Perfect block? Who needs it

4:20 No way, they added Korean back dashing into Elden Ring

I know this is about the backstep i-frame setups, but watching everyone & they mama poise through your light greatsword attacks hurts to see. When they said light.....I guess they really meant light. Let's hope that they get the new weapons up to speed in the next patch.

at 5:30 is some ultra instinct Goku shit!

Funny hearing heavy load being a solid option. I guess being thiccc has its upsides

the guy at 13:50 was absolutely baffled at the situation he was in, i can just feel it lol

That last guy was so done with your shit xD

"unless you're willing to dedicate years of your lifespan to mastering the frame perfect inputs for heavy block cancels" Melee players:

I think the backstep talisman is actually worse than BHS in some ways because at least BHS costs FP to use. It was cool tech in DS2 because stamina management was extremely important in that game, and the recovery on messing anything up was huge.

bro just took the old blind skateboards logo and said yeah that's mine. cool vid tho

I honestly think backstep I frames were a mistake on Fromsoft Regardless always here to learn

Will definitely be trying this out, but for curiosity's sake, do you know if the all crucibles talisman has the same number of I-frames as the fine feather?

Can the new verdigris talisman mitigate the defense reduction of the crucible feather talisman when you are heavy rolling?

thank you for this rust!!!

Please make a video on swift slash. Its the only aow i cant stand

not me watcing the video and proceed to not gonna apply it to my gameplay but it is fun watching something like this

You should make a run with the talisman off rip and beat main game and dlc. Name it “Bloodborne but Eldenring?“, “beating Elden ring but I can’t roll or block” or “beating all of Elden ring without rolling and shields”. This would make a good and popular video in my opinion making use of weapons and armor with the bloodborne aesthetic.

damn this is what ongbal did to consort radahn i saw his backstep should be get hit but he didn't

I've been starting to see this used to good effect, i might have to bring it into my talisman rotation!

Does the all crucible talisman also include this effect?

While the info here is very good to have, this video partially feels like a lesson on how to weaponize bad latency💀 That being said, anything that can bully swift slash is nice in my book.

When you gonna do great katana guide?

do you have a tutorial of that reverse step?

Have you tried it on invasions? Is it worth on them?

Real question is: does it give i frames to curved sword and perfume r2 cancel backstep. Ill be trying this tonight.