How I maintain structural integrity when cutting open a container wall in a shipping container house

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I am cutting two walls out of the shipping containers at one end of my shipping container house, so I need to ensure structural rigidity. This video explains the three things I have done to enhance structural integrity. Hope I have done alright. What do you think?

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@karryhardman8735 6 месяцев назад

I looked at building a 24 x 36 shipping container shop for woodworking a few years ago. Here is what I found then and after. The floor and corners of the container are the only structural parts. The walls and roof are not. Reinforcing the roof after removing the walls and the cost of three containers ran close to $20,000 without finishing the inside. No power, electricity, or heat. The engineer said I would need .5 X 6 X 6 inch 36 feet long I beams to support the roof. I looked at stick build and as a DIY project. The stick build came in at under $10,000 with concrete pad, power, insulation, heat, and electricity. Later I started teaching construction, and safety was a part of it. This led to becoming an OSHA safety instructor where I learned that maritime containers have some very bad chemicals in them. The wood is full of anti-decay, insecticides, and fire retardants. The paint has anti-corrosion products in it like cadmium that are very toxic and require a respirator if you are exposed to it. So, if you cut, sand, grind, or weld it should be treated just like asbestos. If a building inspector or sub-contractor walks on the floor and kicks up cadmium dust you are by law responsible for their exposure for the next 30 years.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Good analysis. Good luck to your build.

@Saavik256 6 месяцев назад

This house already looks amazing, I bet it will be an absolute stunner when you're done! :)

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching.

@51sicboy 6 месяцев назад

Love the fact you do as much as you can yourself, staying true to the name of your channel. 👍

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

I appreciate that!

@AndyUK-Corrival 5 месяцев назад

I love this build and the space inside, awesome.

@WalletMonkeys 6 месяцев назад

What a cool project, got suggested a video from 1 year ago and been binge watching the rest of the updates since. Thanks for sharing!

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching!

@joeystitt1695 6 месяцев назад

This things going to be sweet when it’s done , keep up the good work 🙋‍♂️

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the encouragement! And for watching!

@hazevault1 6 месяцев назад

And… suddenly there’s windows! That makes a huge difference in how inviting the interior looks. Well done.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Agree. Just want till I open up the other end of the great room. I will post a video about that once it opens up. Thanks for watching.

@360monadnock 6 месяцев назад

Great channel and videos! Looks like its an amazing project! We live in NH on 25 acres and are getting ready to integrate one of our 40' Containers into a new addition on our house. I like seeing the steps you took to maintain structural rigidity - notes taken! Please keep documenting your project. Looking forward to seeing more!

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

I am glad you are taking on a good project in NH. Will publish more videos soon when I have time. Thank you for watching.

@LexsBudgetBunkerBuild 6 месяцев назад

Just found your channel - love what you're doing! What an amazing and ambitious project. Will enjoy watching this take shape.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for watching.

@plgoddard1 7 месяцев назад

Really coming along! 👍🏻

@richardjohnson8009 6 месяцев назад

cool, I drew pretty much this exact same thing on paper, except I put arched hoops on as the roof for a clear membrane to make more of a green house style with lots of natural light. nice to see it like that, looks great. Another design I was thinking about was just a large cut in the ground potentially made by blasting, that also just uses a hoop style roof and uses the ability to catch water to its advantage essentially a reservoir with a raised floor or walkway, or perhaps a hanging pod house, and the rest of the area is used as a hydroponics aquaculture terrarium garden, maybe the roots of plants could be used to stabilize the soil, also koi fish water features etc.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Nice ideas. I really like them. If you are interested, I do have a design video about the house at my channel if you want to check it out. People seem to like my design a lot, though some women would just sream, "Why?"

@richardjohnson8009 6 месяцев назад

thanks, would you say its worth it, how much do you expect to spend on this?@@1michiganbuck

@eligebrown8998 5 месяцев назад

Looking good

@1michiganbuck 5 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@TdwageLuTher 7 месяцев назад

this is amazing. I was wondering if the 2x6 is only for hanging drywall then why not increase the space between so you don't have as many thermal bridges? Super excited to see more!

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

That is such an excellent thought! I will check with my framing folks to see if we can do that for the bedroom. Thank you, sir!

@RobertJLessard 6 месяцев назад

How will it be insulated? Heated metal buildings in a cold climate are quite a challenge. Watched a few fails on RU-vid where they used standard insulation batts and that was a disaster. I would think spray foam is about the only option to seal tight against the walls. Otherwise moist air will find a way and condense inside the walls

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Agree, Plan is to install spray foam insulation end of April or May 2024 for all exterior walls--there is just no other way around it. Interior walls will be insulated with those piles of fiberglass stuff.

@RobertJLessard 6 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck OK good I figured that's what you would do. The other guy I watched made a barn shape house but used metal roof panels for siding. He put fiberglass right against the metal and half way through the winter found them all mouldy and had to rip it out.

@FactFinderer 6 месяцев назад

I am impressed with your construction project... Interesting use of materials and design. Are you an architect? I'm a new subscriber.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching. I am a corporate finance guy, but am a fan of architecture and designed the house myself. I have a video about my design if you wish to check it out, at my channel.

@gregorderas5296 6 месяцев назад

👍

@planetgannet 6 месяцев назад

Wow

@PayneInnovation 6 месяцев назад

WHOA..

@Magsonn 6 месяцев назад

Wow love your project. Just wondering how long you predict it takes until you move in? What about rust inside, you are sanding and painting epoxy or you leave it alone? (Outside I saw you paint, but inside none?) Keep good work 👌

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching, first of all. I was gunning to have it all done last year, but missed the timing for sprayfoam, because it needed 70 degree weather. I aim to have it done in the summer. Lots of work ahead, but certainly doable. I will cover all walls inside with fiber glass insulation, but the exterior walls will be buried in sprayfoam from the inside, so there should be no rust issue. Furthermore, Corten steel is what shipping containers are made of, so it is a weathering steeling, meaning the first layer of rust serves as a protective barrier. So, this thing will probably last till some alient invasion occurs and then some.

@Magsonn 5 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck you mean outside fiber glass and inside sprayfoam? And why not rock woll? I saw videos that fiber glass will flame eventualy. I didnt see Pioneer ductless model which has „air flow from outside” i just found that „rotenso fresh” has this feature. You are sure that multiple pioneers will do the work in winter? I mean when the humidity rises and fongus will evolve on walls. In Poland I saw many people mount „recuperation system”. I am just curious whats your opinion cause I will do container build too. Thanks :)

@JR-xw5dk 6 месяцев назад

Are you going with close cell spray foam with all exterior steel? If not I would research it. No expert, but I would put some everywhere there is steel on the exterior walls, floors and ceiling. Keep up the good work.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I will use spray foam for all exterior walls and the ceiling. There is no alternative because metal sweat like crazy when exposed in the heat and cold. Interior walls don't sweat, still, I will use fiberglass for sound deadening.

@setheroo84 6 месяцев назад

You said you spoke to some engineers about this truss design. Did they just like the concept or did they run calculations for you? I ask because the diagonal braces look quite small which isn't a big deal except that they are in compression and are prone to buckling. For this situation I would suggest squared off pratt truss and a licensed engineer to look at it. Or an easy upgrade would be to strengthen at least first diagonals on each end.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

They didn't do any calculations, but they did climb around the area to look at what I did. That includes 2 MIT engineering grads and 2 Michigan engineering grads. Still, I appreciate your input! Diagonally, I am putting a 2x6 there soon, so that will beef it up further. I could weld another tubing to it but I will check with a couple of welders. They saw it and thought it was plenty strong. Thanks for watching.

@setheroo84 6 месяцев назад

Okay, I would suggest they do some calcs for you. I am a structural engineer and I would not say it is adequate without running calculations.

@AahanaEthan2022 7 месяцев назад

Hello sir please share the cost breakdowns including foundation, containers and all. Great strong building

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the request. I will need to put a short video out on the cost, because that would be an intesresting story. Stay tuned.

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

I just did an initial rough tally of the costs and my estimate is about $500,000 to get it all done, including 11 acres of land. Please keep in mind that I do a lot of the work myself and this is a house the eventually will have a 6,000 sf living space, a 4-car garage, a 4,000 sf basement, and a great room that is 40x68 with a 20-foot ceiling. I did build a tiny house with a 20-footer that cost me $10K, but I did all the work pretty much myself, so that was just materials cost. I will do a video on all this because I find it fascinating.

@anonymous_friend 6 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuckI hope your property taxes are going to be reasonable !

@anthonyrampolla3884 6 месяцев назад

Very cool. What is the building department like in your area? are there any inspections or is it a free for all ?

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

I anticipated questions, so I built a thick deck to convince them, including hurricane damages in the Carribeans, where everything is flattened but the shipping containers. They were sold!

@anthonyrampolla3884 6 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck What about rated load you said 50klbs which seemed like a guess but a 2x4 is rated for 11klbs vertically, so your stated weight is equivalent to 5 2x4s? Doesn't sound right, im assuming its more. Im more curious what the actual rated weight is being that some places in the norther usa have heavy snow fall that is heavy.

@tinkhunt85 4 месяца назад

Why cut open the inner wall of the container just to go across it with diagonal beams & whatnot? Are you gonna leave thm open like tht? What's your ascetic plan for the opening?

@1michiganbuck 3 месяца назад

Check out my design video.

@joe55 6 месяцев назад

What do you do about the floors of the used containers? They usually seal them with some nasty stuff.

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Great question. I will put down a layer of plastic sheeting. Then on top, I will put down a layer of 1" aluminum backed foam boards (not expensieve from Menards), and then OSB. That will seal everything in for, like, forever?

@Doubie. 6 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuckhe doesn’t know what he’s talking about they should just be Brazilian or Asian apitong marine plywood floors it depends on where they came from through the cheaper woods are sprayed with pesticides to keep bugs from nesting Also the walls of a sea can really don’t do much if anything the corners posts and floors are the structure that the reasons the walls are corrugated is so the walls don’t need supports the same principle as wavy brick walls

@BryanKirch 7 месяцев назад

Just out of curiosity at what point is it no longer a container and you just get steel siding on a stick framed house?

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

A stick frame house with a great room spanning 40 feet by 68 feet with a ceiling height of 20 feet will be cost prohibitive and easy to mess up and will be much less structurally robust. It also doesn't lend itself to do-it-yourself work unless you are a pro.

@BryanKirch 7 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck how much cheaper is this than building a house just out of curiosity do you have a video with the total costs ?

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

@@BryanKirch Good suggestion. I really should make a video about that. I bought the containers 4 years ago when they were cheap, so I bought these high cubes for an average of $2,200 each. When stacked together and welded together, they form almost a fortress that no stick frame house can be. Furthermore, I have done things that have made the containers even stronger. I will see what I can do to put together a video soon, because that would be an interesting topic. Thanks.

@BryanKirch 7 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck yeah people always love receipt videos it’s some of their favorite

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

@@BryanKirch Good point. I will work on that receipt video soon. Stay tuned.

@EdA-bz3bu 6 месяцев назад

Wondering if you are keeping a dollar tally of the entire project so far? It really does not matter because the prices will vary with who will answer someone’s quote, area, location and time. But for shits and giggles. Of course estimate the month and month and month… of your labor rate. Not that this has anything to do with the actual dollars. But it will be interesting to see what the town will assess the taxes to be. I have to say you must have a like-able character or very lucky to have such luck finding honest capable professionals working with you. ✌️

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

I think the cost question is a good one. You can make a house with one or two container for cheap, for sure, but my project is pretty big, so the cost is high for the unique structure I have. I do a lot of the work myself, epecially expensive metal work and welds, but still it is going to be about $500,000 when it completed in the summer. To build a stick frame house like mine, it would be quite more expensive. I am eager to find out what the town will value the house at. Stay tuned.

@EdA-bz3bu 6 месяцев назад

Are you going to use solar panels and heat pumps?

@1michiganbuck 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I am actually going to do a video on that soon. Stay tuned.

@24revealer 5 месяцев назад

I am very curious why you built this with shipping containers when you then framed the inside with wood anyway? What is the purpose? The comment below regarding cost says a lot. It makes no sense to me. Are you going to put siding on the exterior too?

@1michiganbuck 5 месяцев назад

Not aiming for a cheap and tiny house.

@artkarr9702 7 месяцев назад

Okay, Everybody including Santa Claus likes it - but WHO CERTIFIED IT AND WHAT DID THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SAY ? Those Guys Wanna See Specs And Crap.

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

Good question. I worked hard to get the city's permit with a thick deck, including a picture of hurricane damages in the Caribbeans, where everything was flatten except shipping containers. They were sold after they saw that picture and calculations about the building weight the steel ridigity. They are actively working with me to make sure everything is up to code. Not surprising they do that, because there are literally tens of thousands of container houses in the country now. As for home owners association, I own my 11 acres in the woods, so, as Napoleon would say, "Je suis la putain d'association de propriétaires."

@artkarr9702 7 месяцев назад

I like what you did. Haven't seen anyone anywhere do anything like it. Very slick. I'm not gonna spend 40 grand on an architect to draw up snow loads and load bearing wall stresses. Where I'm thinking of building they all squawk about every cut you make destroys the container structural integrity and want it all recalculated.

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

@@artkarr9702 Fully understand your concerns. I am luck in many ways. I did the design myself (I have a video on that at my channel if you look) and did my snow load and container weight calculations myself, so in the end I only spent $2K to get an architect to pretty it up and put his name on it. As for structural integrity, I am going to make another short video about how I made every effort to make the containers even stronger by adding tubes and beams everywhere. Stay tuned.

@artkarr9702 7 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck Excellent job. Your message caught me while I was watching some of your other videos. Two things have struck me so far - your not selling crap like fasteners or plans or your technique. Your doing it the right way. Everything you do makes sense and won't need a workaround later. I guess I've become a FANBOY .. Ha Ha Ha

@1michiganbuck 7 месяцев назад

@@artkarr9702 Thank you, sir! You are right. I do it to create a real good house, and the videos are just me setting up a camera while I do work. I do need to do better videos, to share my lessons and knowledge. Thanks for the kind words!

@donnicholson3170 5 месяцев назад

Sure you don't need a bigger house? Massive carbon foot print. 🤷‍♂️

@1michiganbuck 5 месяцев назад

That’s an appropriate comment. If you watch my video about my HVAC system, I am going solar and using mini splits. So the footprint is small to negligible.

@donnicholson3170 5 месяцев назад

@@1michiganbuck Just the concrete alone is probably 10 peoples lifetime carbon load. Why do you need so much space? Is this going to be a convention center or something? I can see it if this is going to house 20 people maybe?