How I Mix A Church Live Stream with Logic Pro X 

hopefully we can download the file.

Wouldn't that make it to where you can't mix the level of each individually? If so, not a good idea imo.

@@specopbookie like most things, it depends on what you are doing with your channels. I just know that if I put a volunteer in charge of mixing in logic pro, it's easier to understand and control when a stereo instrument is on one single channel. If there is a case where the L and R signals aren't balanced, I can make adjustments with the stock gain plugin, it has a separate knobs for L and R

CAN U POINT ME TO A VIDEO ON HOW THIS IS DONE??

Pls share

@@busyngtv2861 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KxbK9uCfuq8.html

@@eddieyoung3856 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KxbK9uCfuq8.html

Couldn’t you just add the clean distortion on the bass channel strip instead of having it go through a bus ?

+1 for H-Delay!

Definitely! we teach how to do this in our Broadcast Mix Mastery course.

I’m considering using Trigger 2 free to replace our kick and snare only. I’m totally happy with our toms. How does Trigger 2 account for cross stick, or does it not? I don’t want it triggering the snare when it’s a soft section of a slow song, lol.

True but you can use a control surface for DAW control. E.g fader Port by presonus

@@hqmultimedia_ that's precisely what I mean

Is that possible tho??

Hahah

I think to achieve this you can make sure that the “i” button near the solo button is the only one with the “i”selected

@@ricardo.i.i.i but that way you'll send to the livestream just that track without the others

No, this is not possible with Logic, at least with the dedicated solo button. You would have to use a dedicated bus send as some sort of "solo bus" on each track.

@@schlausprecher3361 exactly. Maybe it could be done via dedicated bus and a macro (to have a button)

That's the nice thing about Ableton Live, you just set the Solo to Cue mode and assign it a different audio output

Yet still triggers drums. Lol

@@scottkorber thats a food color😂

i have the same question. i believed they do a post mixing work and broadcast later. if this was live/real time that would be awesome tho.

We aren't using the Slate triggers in the room, but we are using a whole bunch of waves plugins on each drum channel at FOH on soundgrid. I don't believe Slate is currently able to run off of the SuperRack interface/server for FOH- only waves plugins work within SuperRack, as far as I'm aware. Our audio is straight from the preamps going to FOH and separately to our Broadcast, so we have totally different plugin chains for each channel and each destination.

Honestly I hope that’s the case. Great question

Waves Tune Real-Time does not introduce latency. Additionally, Logic automatically compensates for latency of busses. If latency is introduced on input tracks, one needs to compensate on all tracks, as far as I know. At least that's how we do it, and we inherited that from the bethel template for Logic.

Ahh figured it out, I'll just send it back to the console over WSG. Send it to Aux 1/2 to the ATEM mini. That will be perfect.

Yeah the challenge will be figuring out how to monitor the mic at the Logic computer. That’s why we ended up putting a behringer flow at that computer to pull usb audio out of logic and then we send the main out of the flow to the stage box

I have to agree. When I mix recordings of our band the only time I replace a shell is if there is something really off. Even then I try to just augment the shell with a replacement. Controlling the microdynamics on drums is critical to get the impact and energy of the kit. Without it, yeah they sound like they need replaced.

Try use acoustic guitar simulator

You could also set it up so each channel goes into the daw for processing, then back out to the desk channels for fader control. All the bussing would likely need to remain in the desk, however. Alternatively, some desks also work as a DAW controller, so there may be a way to assign the desk faders to control DAW faders, rather than the actual desk inputs.

typically video will naturally be delayed more than the audio. at least in my experience, i have never had to delay video to match the audio, however i have had to delay the audio to match video. which can be done with a plugin, set at the root of each channel strip (better to do this at the begginning of each channel strip, rather than once at the end of the channel strip if you are mixing broadcast so that: a) the audio will sync up with what you are seeing on screen in the media room, which actually does help give context to the mix. b) most importantly, putting the delay at the begginning of each channel strip allows you to hear the changes made to your mix in real time.(if you put one single delay on the master output, you wouldn't hear the changes in your mix until after they were processed by the delay).

It sound like they are using Waves Sound Grid over the network, likely plugging their instruments into something like a Sound Grid Stage box.

@@bluedog8050 close! Our stage box is actually our "ears board" (x32 rack+the midas DL32 stagebox) and then from there the raw audio is all sent to separate places via Ethernet on the waves network. That way we can process our in ears completely separate from everywhere else, only downside being that the "true gain" is now controlled by our x32 rack and not the FOH board. It's been a more budget friendly way of achieving the multiple goals we were shooting for when we moved in to the building. Jake has definitely helped us take all of it to the next level and I'm sure we are gonna be changing some of it up here soon! But for now that's how we have been doing it.

What issues have you had with it that could be fixed with Reaper or Studio One?

@@robertsimpson5801 It's mostly a problem with the learning curve for volunteers. Logic has a very rigid UI which is far away from a mixing console. Reaper and Studio One have the ability to get closer to a digital mixer. Reaper has the ability to create custom themes/skins extensions, and plug-ins (I'm a software engineer), but that would take quite some time to set up, which I currently do not have. Studio One can show small widgets in the channel strip for gain/EQ/compressor/... and also offers a solo bus, which makes it possible to solo tracks during broadcast (this can be done using busses in the other DAWs, but is not intuitive - I think Ableton can do this as well).Both DAWs also have their downsides, which makes me stick with Logic for now. Reaper does not really offer an "input monitoring" feature, one needs to record arm the tracks. This means Reaper would always record all tracks, which is not what I want (it is possible to disable recording for an armed track, but that is hidden away and is just plain stupid IMHO). Studio One's UI is somewhat complicated in certain cases and we would have to buy the largest licence for all the features we want, and I do not want to spend that much on another DAW. Logic also sometimes has "hick-ups" on my system, where it will stop its audio engine because "a plug-in has reported a stability problem" and asks whether it should quit or continue, instead of just continuing... However this has only been a problem on my personal system when using more third-party plug-ins than usual. Our broadcast Mac Mini has been stable enough so far, using mainly stock plug-ins, Antares AutoTune, and some Waves stuff.

We were using a fully loaded 2013 MBP and we started getting that delay after a few minutes of streaming…we pitched a base model M1 MBP and we haven’t had an issue since…

Ya i used to have that issue. Not really sure how i fixed it. I upgraded to an M1 and it works fine with my Dante latency all the way down. One thing to check is to make sure your prodject sample rate is set correctly. If you are using an interface, match its sample rate or dantes or whatever

Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro

You don't need expensive mics for a good sounding broadcast mix. You may just need to do some more processing to get it to sound similar.

Because I’m a Logic newb. Lol.

@@Churchfront haha all good brotha!

We do! Just need to add a delay plug-in to each channel. Figure out which one causes the most delay. Leave that delay plug-in set to 0. Then with a good bit of math you can calculate how much delay each other channel needs to line up with the most latent channel. We did this and overall have about 20-30ms overall delay. We adjust the video in OBS, to be delayed to match the audio. Logic does have automatics delay compensation but only works during playback mode not input monitoring while recording. Hope this helps!

I use the MCU Pro. really great and it gives you plugin control and is made for Logic unlike alot of others native to Ableton. I think Behringer might make a version as well.

No