This tutorial is gold. I’m mixing our services and livestream on a WING and the room acoustics are difficult to treat so we’ve been trying to come up with creative ways to get the mix in a good place and translate that to the livestream. I was looking for a breakdown just like this for signal flow and leveling inspiration and I’ve got so many ideas now - thanks man!
Pitch fix works great. It is NOT autotune. It works on an entirely different premise. If you treat it as it's own thing versus as an autotune replacement it would likely yield tou better results. It takes a good singer and makes them better. If your singer is way off it will do you no good.
We just upgraded to an Allen & Heath SQ7 and are still learning its ins and out. This is our first digital mixing console so quite the learning curve. I'd love to see a video/tutorial on the sq series mixers, etc. I've always loved your content.
Set your vox comp to a medium attack and fast to medium release for articulation and character. On the vox bus set a fast attack and medium release for the control. Promise you'll enjoy the outcome.
Thank you for doing this dude, I just got hired at church and they have a WING. I'm migrating from Pro Tools so a bit nervous with the layout and I/O. Cheers!
Thanks for this tutorial 🙂! imho this is a rather complex setup , especially if you have less experienced foh volunteers😅. I ended up with a similar setup by letting a very experienced studio audio engineer setting up our board. Way too much compression, complex bus setups etc. My background is many years of live mixing with analog boards, started to use the X32 9 years ago, now started to use the Wing. My approach is....setup your board as if you would have an analog board with limited resources, then start applying subtle processing but don't take it to the "studio level". Mixing live imho is completely different to mixing and mastering a track. With this in mind I've setup our board up as follows. - Do all processing on the channel itself, no additional bus tricks (I rather fix stuff at the source channel). - Use the 1st 8 busses to group stuff if needed to be able to send it over to the P16's (e.g. drums,, fx's). - Use DCA's to level a group of channels. - Send the channels and busses to one of the mains as live stream out. (With Sends on Fader, decrease / increase the amount of signal per channel, it will keep this delta compared to the main mix. Add compression on this live stream master). Open for advise/feedback from anyone 🙂
Wow very extensive and well explained. I usually have a hard time following most tutorials because they assume you understand everything so they lose me.
For saving scenes, my first scene is called Sunday and I just overwrite that one with the mix after practice. My start scene is down at like scene 20 to reduce the chance of accidentally overwriting it.
So you don't even worry about mixing separately for the livestream beyond the speaker and crowd mics? That would actually make things so much easier and less stressful. We're a small team and we are fully mixing our stream separately. Need to stop that now lol
Over what cable or line are you sending your Main Stream Mix to? Is it Dante? XLR? I think its pretty awesome that you have changes that are being made on the fly FOH for Mics or mutes etc that automatically effect the live stream.
Would suggest adding room mics positioned at FOH as well to blend with your crowds for a even better room sound for your streams. MXU has a great video about them!
Wow great video. We are upgrading from behringer x32 to behringer wing in the next few weeks. A little nervous maybe but anxious to get started. Maybe contacting u for help.
Jake, I’m looking for more info on the built in vocal tuning. You just said it’s average. Maybe a demo of it in use, or if you recommend offloading the processing to a computer running WavesTune on a DAW?
We are transitioning to one person doing the house and livestream on the wing. I am lost, we previously used two audio guys. I am trying to convert over but probaley over thinking it. A little help please. Do you guys come out to churches to train as well.
So I appreciate the quality and in depth teaching of your videos. But the pricing of your courses is really high and excludes some churches from accessing your resources.
Hi Jake, I manage the sound board at our church and I am in great need of your help to get a Dante avb connection going. I will love it if we can get in contact and possibly set some session to make it posible! Please let me know.
A quick question, how are you getting the individual channels from a electric drum? We are using Roland VAD series drum and we get all the channels in a stereo mode not individually. Just wondering how you managed to get it separately.
Depends on your drum module. Cheaper modules generally only give you a stereo out, higher end models give you individual outs. If you have individual outs available the one thing you need to check in the manual is wether or not they are balanced outputs or not. If they aren’t then you will need a DI for them, if they are balanced you just need TRS to XLR cables.
Do firmware updates come with baptism and conversion or something? Why is it that the only people that use this console are houses of worship? Do bands or studios not believe in it? 🤣
They are using Electric drums and probably going direct with their bass and Electric Guitars. The loudest thing on stage is probably the acustic Guitar