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How Important Really Is Miles Davis’s "Kind Of Blue"? 

Ted Gioia
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In this video, music historian Ted Gioia looks at the most famous jazz album of all time, Miles Davis's Kind of Blue. He asks why this music has achieved so many accolades and whether it deserves its reputation as the premier jazz recording.
This is the latest installment in a series of unscripted videos in which Ted Gioia addresses key matters related to music and culture.
For more information on Ted Gioia, visit his website at www.tedgioia.com or follow him on Twitter at / tedgioia . Be on the lookout for his next book, Music: A Subversive History, which will be released by Basic Books in 2019.

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@alexo5861
@alexo5861 2 года назад
Rick Beato’s interview with Ted brought me here, I am glad it did.
@PeterIsackson
@PeterIsackson 3 года назад
As someone born in 1946, I can confirm that by 1962 we all knew not only that Kind of Blue was important, but that it already deserved to be considered the greatest of its time. We may not yet have been aware that that moment in time might be seen as the greatest moment in jazz history, but we knew what was important then. I bought the album in early 1961 knowing nothing about Miles or jazz. I was 14. I began building a record collection and playing piano. Some of my best friends were musicians. Some had careers and became famous. We all knew Kind of Blue was seminal and incomparable. We also knew why, though one of my friends at the time said that the key was not the hall of fame players on the LP (Miles, Trane, Cannonball and Evans) but Jimmy Cobb. Those dudes for us were in the same class as Muhammad Ali was on the verge of becoming in boxing. And just for perspective, we also knew about Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson. By the way, I didn't need hi-fi to appreciate the greats of jazz. None of us at the time needed hi-fi to recognize great music. The painter parallel is true. Monk was one of our heroes. He was incomparable but no virtuoso. And none of today's great modern virtuosos can equal Monk. I seriously regret that we put too much value on virtuosity today. By the way, we had the opportunity to see all these icons of jazz in person (well, not Bird or Clifford Brown), so we knew a lot about how contrasted they were and how they managed to merge traditions (think of Mingus). In that sense, Kind of Blue was not so exceptional. But it is still the greatest jazz album of all time!
@92ninersboy
@92ninersboy 2 года назад
You sound like you had the same experience I had, even the same chronology. I also started listening to jazz in 1961 and Kind Of Blue was definitely already recognized as a masterpiece. This was apparent to any serious jazz fan. And, I would say, should be obvious to any listeners with "ears". What sets the music apart is that it is transcendent - it communicates directly to people in a way that is far beyond whatever technical innovations it made. One could say that the concept's freshness probably inspired the musicians in such a way that what we hear is spontaneity at its purest. It certainly didn't need any writer's book to promote it to the position that it had attained almost from the start.
@Mooseman327
@Mooseman327 2 года назад
I totally agree. Ted's simply wrong here. KOB was already the best-selling jazz album by 2000 when these KOB books started coming out. They were VERY late to the party and unnecessary to KOB's popularity and high regard. I started collecting jazz in the late 60's and KOB was very much considered THE starting point for anyone just getting into jazz. It was already considered novel and extraordinary in its simplicity and beauty. It kind of went right along with the Zen awareness that was starting to permeate the culture at that time. Evans even mentions Zen in the liner notes. So, Gioia is completely mistaken there. KOB pointed to a very different approach to improvised music and that was recognized almost immediately. If he gets this glaringly obvious point wrong, it makes one wonder how much else he gets wrong. I mean...sheesh.
@solublefish5917
@solublefish5917 2 года назад
What do you guys think of Jacob Collier?
@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul
@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul 2 года назад
Thank you so much for insight 👊🏿🖤
@mikem668
@mikem668 2 года назад
Thanks. You're older than I am. But your experience reminds me of mine with Sgt. Pepper. *** I'd be interested in whether you think Kind of Blue had an immediate world-wide impact. As you point out, there were lots of greats and things were moving fast. Armstrong is the example of that earlier. You have writers like Cortazar in Argentina being blown away. It's said that Coleman Hawkins had a similar impact on musicians. As opposed to say Benny Goodman, who was great, but so was Fletcher Henderson. So I'm not asking about popularity or greatness. I guess I asking about impact and influence.
@rmac1042
@rmac1042 2 года назад
I’ll tell you why-to me-Kind Of Blue is the most important jazz album of the last part of the 20th century. It’s because of Bill Evans. He set the ambiance for the entire record, but, in MY case, he made me a pianist! I was a professional vibes player until I heard Blue In Green and Flamenco Sketches. My whole musical identity changed with just those two pieces! I had three personal meetings with Bill over the course of three years. The most meaningful was my second one. Bill was in L.A. for his second appearance at Shelley’s Manne Hole. On a Friday night I was there to hear the trio with Chuck Israels and Larry Bunker. I went back stage to talk to Bill. He then invited me to visit him Saturday morning at his motel just north of the Capitol Records Building (it’s still there!). I knocked on the door that morning and Chuck came to the door and said, “Who the hell are YOU!?” I said I’m here to see Bill. Chuckie proceeded to slam the door on me! Then this presence loomed over Chuck’s left shoulder... It was 6’3” Bill Evans! He said, “I invited him; let him in”. Thus began a 3 hour meeting that I consider the most meaningful time in my musical career! This essay is too long already to go into detail about that meeting, but the last question I asked as I was leaving was, “Bill, did you write BOTH Blue and Green AND Flamenco Sketches.” His one-word reply was, “Yes”.
@roberthunt1540
@roberthunt1540 2 года назад
The tonal color of KOB is set by Bill's left hand. It's the harmonic DNA of the album. I feel the same way about Love Supreme - it's McCoy's comping with those open fourths that defines the album.
@jerseywalcott6408
@jerseywalcott6408 2 года назад
Would love to hear more!
@paulkossak7761
@paulkossak7761 2 года назад
Blue in Green is my favorite cut on the album. Both supremely melancholy and truly beautiful. I wanted played at my funeral, hopefully not anytime soon.
@karlherman3591
@karlherman3591 2 года назад
Wow! The first time I heard Blue in Green I thought I wanted it played at my funeral. You’re not alone.
@martinsundland7614
@martinsundland7614 2 года назад
That cut has turned out to be my favourite on the album also. It's so moody and melancholy and beautiful - sort of the way of Sinatra's "One for my baby".
@GLeD101
@GLeD101 2 года назад
This misses the reason I and I think a lot of other musicians recommend KOB to non-jazz people: It’s accessible! The modal harmony and moderate tempos are very familiar to modern ears and this record leaves people new to the music with less unfamiliar harmonic and sonic content to digest.
@marcblum5348
@marcblum5348 2 года назад
Thank you. I was thinking about writing a similar comment.
@musicfriendly12
@musicfriendly12 2 года назад
Most Jazz has accessible Harmony for modern ears. Most modern ears already listen to Jazz occasionally weather they want or not and typical Jazz Harmony is everywhere in music, more than Kind of Blues modal harmony. I disagree with it being the most familiar, quite the opposite, I think it's accessible because it doesn't throw too many notes, it's relaxing, and it's interesting throughout while being a bit unfamiliar, and while not having vocals. One of the biggest problems with Jazz and it's accessibility in general is when musicians focus on chops, fast licks, high notes, complex harmonies and rhythms, grooves, a lot of stuff happening, etc. That's musicians music, the average person doesn't get excited or impressed, rightfully so, and Jazz ballads are everywhere, everyone listens to Jazz Ballads, too familiar. Kind of Blue is the best because it's "accessible" (as in good music and relaxing/easier to absorb) and unfamiliar. Of course people that aren't open to unfamiliar aren't gonna accept anything new, but if it isn't at least somewhat new to you it can't make an impact. You're better off showing someone Ornette Coleman than anything everybody already knows.
@victoreijkhout6146
@victoreijkhout6146 2 года назад
You're spot on. To most people "Love Supreme" is "Chinese music".
@ronkopald
@ronkopald 2 года назад
Fucking spot on.
@arisumego
@arisumego 2 года назад
I don’t think that was really the point of Ted’s talk, I think it was just questioning whether it’s the best jazz album of all time, which it isn’t. It’s a classic, most definitely
@ryanmurtha2392
@ryanmurtha2392 2 года назад
"Somethin' Else" by a similar band, went out under Adderley's name, that one is really good too.
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 года назад
I'd say Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" is probably the best gateway album for Jazz.
@Mooseman327
@Mooseman327 2 года назад
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Although it is clearly not on the highest level of jazz. KOB is both highly accessible and played on the highest level. A remarkable achievement. Just compare the players on each. As Miles told Brubeck, "You swing, your other players don't." But "Time Out" may be the place to start for someone who clearly has NO idea about jazz at all or professes to not like it.
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119
@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 2 года назад
@@Mooseman327 Miles said that? Always thought Joe Morello's drumming was great.
@ryanmurtha2392
@ryanmurtha2392 2 года назад
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 Gateway with a reefer
@dachanist
@dachanist 2 года назад
@@Mooseman327 Clearly not on the highest level of jazz? Are you ok?
@92ninersboy
@92ninersboy 2 года назад
The reason that Kind Of Blue occupies its position and continues to resonate throughout the years is primarily its sense of timeless transcendence. This immediately set it apart from earlier jazz, and, one can argue, it accomplished it in such a profound way that it has yet to be equaled. Miles and Bill Evans really were able to set the tone that allowed these great musicians, with their varied sensibilities, to get on this frequency that communicates a connection with something eternal. It's hypnotic and transporting and all of the musician's strong personalities became a part of this collective expression without losing their individual identities. In essence that balance is what great jazz is about - and one could also say its what life, at its peak, also aspires to. Kind of Blue is not just a peak for jazz but for all of improvised music. It's magic.
@juancpgo
@juancpgo 2 года назад
If you love Kind of Blue, I very highly recommend: “1958 Miles” by Miles Davis (1958). The only other record with that very same band, from the year before, and sounds just as great. “Chet” by Chet Baker (1959). Reminiscent of Kind of Blue, recorded in the same year, and also featuring Paul Chambers and Bill Evans. Super underestimated album. “The Blues and the Abstract Truth” by Oliver Nelson (1961). Also reminiscent of Kind of Blue, and features Paul Chambers and Bill Evans who played in Kind of Blue. Masterpiece, another strong contestant for best jazz album of all time. Features Eric Dolphy, who is a universe of his own, a true genius of music just as great as Miles and Trane.
@billclarke3773
@billclarke3773 2 года назад
I accidentally heard Kind Of Blue in 1973 and it was clearly like nothing else I had ever heard before. So I find out what it was immediately, listened to it and was instantly convinced it was the greets collection of of music ever made. I have listened to it a million times since. I know it off by heart all the way through and never get bored with it. Every note is perfect. It is the best album by all the participants.
@DavidKowalski
@DavidKowalski 5 лет назад
Each musician who contributed to Kind of Blue had his own proclivities or inclinations, and Miles gave them the freedom to express themselves and even seemed to let others lead at times. I am continuously impressed by how each man seems to have reigned in his own inclinations to harmonize with a joint vision for each track. The result was a collaboration of genius in which each musician was on the same page in spite of their freedom to be themselves. I agree that the improved, audio fidelity contributes to the degree of acclaim given to Kind of Blue. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab has produced a hybrid SACD of Kind of Blue that makes one feel amazed that the recording was done in 1959.
@vicomtedelomagne
@vicomtedelomagne 2 года назад
Listen to the pristine audio version.
@TheVoluntariast
@TheVoluntariast 2 года назад
My dad gave me 'Kind of Blue' and 'A love Supreme" as my first 2 CDs along with a CD player for my 16th birthday. Those 2 albums started on a journey of Jazz discovery that I am still on 30 years later.
@AeroModule
@AeroModule 3 года назад
You touched on style - "you don't have to put everything in." To me this is one of the big keys of Kind of Blue. Listen to Milestones, recorded the year before. The difference between that and KOB is astonishing. KOB just sounds like nothing that came before it. All the songs are laid-back, bluesy. It just has a feel and a mood that didn't exist in jazz prior to its recording.
@dmc244
@dmc244 2 года назад
Yep, the way that space is used is a key ingredient in music mastery.
@ptose
@ptose 2 года назад
well to be fair Flamenco Sketches is basically a reprise of Peace Piece, a tune recorded by Bill Evans the year before.
@jonathanhenderson9422
@jonathanhenderson9422 Год назад
@@ptose Peace Piece itself was a kind of "reprise" of Bill's own Some Other Time, which he recorded in the same session. I think the chronology goes that as he was working on Some Other Time he came across that chord progression, liked it well enough to use as the basis for the improvisational Peace Piece, and then used again for the chord progression of Some Other Time, which he recorded later in the session but wasn't released until much later. Always thought it was a bit unfair that Peace Piece was so much more popular as Some Other Time is just as lovely in its own way. Jane Monheit also has a sumptuous vocal version using Bill's chord progression.
@TexasGit
@TexasGit 4 месяца назад
Milestones is still pretty great.
@vKarl71
@vKarl71 5 лет назад
Good talk! Good point about simplicity & viruosity - and the comparison of Miles to Picasso. Miles had been paring down his playing style, away from virtuosity for its own sake, for some time before Kind of Blue. The most significant aspect of Miles' genius to me is the way he played off and with the talents of his musicians in an improvisatory workshop to create music that would surprise & inspire everyone in the band. He was always challenging them with musical koans and pushing them to places they didn't think they were ready to go. And he allowed himself to be influenced by people without ever losing his own very strong sense of direction. Bill Evans was highly influential in this recording but so were all the others. Having Adderly AND Coltrane AND Paul Chambers was a very special chemistry. The record is truly a group creation. Another important thing about this album (that macho/intellectual jazz people seem to be afraid to mention) is that the music is very beautiful & (God forbid!) easy to listen to, so it reached a lot people who would never have listened to a Charlie Parker recording. Many a baby was conceived with Kind of Blue playing in the background. This does not make it un-hip or unsophisticated. It rewards careful listening. The phrase "the greatest album of all time" is just silly. There's no "mark" that you "hit" that makes music measurably great. The fact that Brubeck sold better than Miles is irrelevant to the quality of the music. Columbia promoted Brubeck better mainly because he had a gimmick and was white. (Also, Paul Desmond offered a very creamy tone.) Notably, they eventually dropped Miles from the label, a sign of what mercenary lizards ran the company.
@barrymoore4470
@barrymoore4470 2 года назад
"The fact that Brubeck sold better than Miles is irrelevant to the quality of the music." Absolutely agree--monetary profit or lack thereof has no necessary correlation with artistic merit.
@KBeaswax
@KBeaswax 2 года назад
I think that Miles style was highly virtuosic at this point. Who else played like that? It takes a high level to play in that aspect. I think that you’re associating virtuosity with technique.
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 3 года назад
Kind Of Blue is, in my opinion, definitely a deserved classic. I have the remastered version on CD and it's an absolute joy on good headphones.
@deanlongthon4963
@deanlongthon4963 3 года назад
Wasn't even into jazz when I heard it ,but I instantly knew it was a masterpiece .
@dlargent
@dlargent 2 года назад
You make a great point- anyone can listen to it an realize it’s a masterpiece, even if you’re not familiar with jazz
@ryanphelan6861
@ryanphelan6861 2 года назад
Try Blues and the abstract truth its pretty clean and seems so familiar even upon first listen because its such unique style from first notes. Enjoy if you decide to check it out ....
@mikem668
@mikem668 2 года назад
Interesting comment. I first heard Kind of Blue during the late 70s. Rolling Stone had a series of musicians recommend five jazz albums. Kind of Blue was the only record on every list. *** Your comment leaves out your own experience. I'm assuming you'd heard a lot of music when you recognized it as a masterpiece. But it feels odd to rely on the judgment or instinct of someone new to any form of music. I've certainly had the opposite experience. If it's not sacrilege, John Mayer made a great comment on the Grateful Dead. Asked if he always was a fan, he said no. But sometimes music finds you. I was a trumpet player as a kid. Al Hirt, Herb Alpert, the Armstrong of Hello Dolly. Plus marches. When I first heard KoB I couldn't believe you could breathe into the horn and the music would just emerge. I was stunned. Only later did I hear the Armstrong Hot Fives and Sevens from the 20s. I thought, so that's why Armstrong is the greatest musician of the 20th century. Potato Head Blues is my choice for the greatest jazz recording. *** Ironically, Bitches Brew was the first jazz album I ever bought. I liked the cover and it was a Two-Fer. Never really liked it. Just the other day I thought of digging out the complete sessions and giving it another try. Who knows.
@ryanphelan6861
@ryanphelan6861 2 года назад
@@mikem668 In a silent way was wonderful I thought all those piano and keyboard masters, miles in the sky, realxin, cookin etc the batch of four recorded in one day before he went to columbia Records. Coltrane Village Vanguard recordings too I thought were incendiary. Great stuff. Heard that same interview I was into jerry from old and in the way and actually am most fond of american beauty but still remember first time I heard two from the vault and dark star.....incredible, and the Grisman Garcia collaborations thought those were just wonderful. Beautiful Balance between those two life long friends. :) enjoy
@mikem668
@mikem668 2 года назад
@@ryanphelan6861 The path we all take is so different, it raises the question of how much of what you like depends on when you heard it and what you'd heard before. I first liked the Dead with WMD and AB. Liked Europe 72. I actually saw them in Winterland in 77... and didn’t appreciate the show. So they went dormant for a while. Followed punk and new wave, and Neil Young and the Stones. 78 was a great year. Later, when I had money, I binged on blues and jazz. Took years, Dick's Picks to get back home. I used to buy those massive boxed sets of 50s hard bop filled with jams released as records to make cash. Then I discovered Bear Family and it was back to Bill Monroe, Flatt and Scruggs, Uncle Dave Macon and eventually George Jones. So we touch bases - I explored Grisman way later than you (I liked the Dawg stuff, didn't love it) - and of course I love Coltrane, but more the earlier period. Someday I will revisit A Love Supreme. The great thing about music is the journey and that it's endless. Even when our favorites don't align, you can tell whether Music really matters to people. Kind of like in High Fidelity. Some of us are hard-core. What's special about the Dead is it feels like you could go to old Dead concerts everyday of your life. My favorite period is 77. And there are all those limited edition boxed sets I've never heard. And then again I have boxed sets I've never even opened. Because of copyright expiration, all the recorded electric Dylan concerts with the Band from the famous tour in the 60s had to be released. Someday... When I bought it, I was in my Brahms / Bruckner period. I didn't like either for years. I asked a kid I knew to recommend some music. Brahms he said. I thought he was crazy. I got hooked. And so it goes... Row Jimmy Row
@Gregorovitch144
@Gregorovitch144 2 года назад
Me and my friends discovered Kind of Blue back in the 1980's at a friend of a friend's house. For all of us it subsequently took it's place as the universal answer to the question "WTF can we put on after that?". You know, after listening to Aja or Exile or Europe '72 or Electric Ladyland or Selling England by the Pound or something. The reason Kind of Blue is so popular is simply 'cos it kicks a colossal weight of arse. No matter what album you were listening to previously, and I don't care if it's jazz record or a rock record or even classical one, Kind of Blue will top it and have you spellbound. Of course this means that Kind of Blue is more or less impossible to follow with anything else so we always reserved it for the end of the evening.
@mpccengineer
@mpccengineer 2 года назад
I started playing trumpet in 1984 at the age of 10, and that Christmas my parents gave me the albums "Kind of Blue" and "Sketches of Spain" at the recommendation of my trumpet teacher. When I want to listen to Jazz, I still go back to those two albums at least half of the time.
@barrymoore4470
@barrymoore4470 2 года назад
These are the two first jazz albums I heard (I am still very much a novice in regard to jazz), and I found myself preferring the more intimate and cerebral 'Kind of Blue' to the more sweeping and cinematically colored 'Sketches of Spain'. Miles' consummate musicality is certainly evident in both.
@earlbee3196
@earlbee3196 6 месяцев назад
How was your trumpet playing now? Did you become a professional.
@DangerfieldChris
@DangerfieldChris 2 года назад
Hello Ted - what a fantastic articulation of this cultural artifact. Your point regarding the collaboration but with musicians with 'a degree of divergence' really nailed it. Thanks for this take, really enjoyed it and learned some things too.
@jibsmokestack1
@jibsmokestack1 4 года назад
Finally someone who knows this stuff for real. Facts spoken!
@dkelley9661
@dkelley9661 2 года назад
All I can possibly add to this conversation is that we’re seriously having this discussion, without big argument, speaks tomes about KOB’s importance. But to be sure, Ted’s point about the improvements in recording quality truly has a prominent role in the regarded importance of KOB. I have recommended this album to many as a primer on how to appreciate Jazz. It works flawlessly nearly every time. Very powerful to me. I’d add John Coltrane’s Impressions is, at least for me, on a similar plateau of music importance. Kudos Mr. Gioia for these videos.
@moonlitegram
@moonlitegram 2 года назад
I used to be very passionate about "greatest of" conversations. But over the years I've become very disinterested in the notion. In the very subjective medium of the arts its usually an exercise in futility to debate such matters with someone. But more importantly it seems very antithetical to most of the core virtues of music. Whether Kind of Blue is the greatest jazz album of all time seems of little consequence to me now. Rather, the many ways it has contributed to the 'musical conversation' of jazz, many of which you keenly pinpoint here, seems to be the more important focus. Really, the only question that matters in my mind is whether something is worth appreciating. And I think you have made a strong case here that there's a number of key reasons to appreciate the album.
@earlbee3196
@earlbee3196 6 месяцев назад
I didn’t understand any of that comment! You must be a professor of intellectual language , A bit like finance, a lot of intellectual jargon to stop, the common man, understanding finance.
@kwgib
@kwgib 4 месяца назад
@@earlbee3196 Perhaps you might read it again with more appropriate metaphor? Really, you'll never understand much of anything about Music if yur inclined to think of it as Money or Finance. One of THE best things about music (as opposed to noise), eg. vibrations resonating between ones ears, IS, If/when yur in a Groove, there's really very little need to Talk about it. One may Need to Listen? See, Not too tricky. But some people just Luv to Opine (while talking/writing) about music, for absolutely no reason at all. Go Figure:-) But Some of Us were trying to talk about the virtues of a particular Miles Davis recording. That little number sure generates (or sucks up) a whole lotta Verbiage. Some (not all) of it Hot Air. Would you agree?
@earlbee3196
@earlbee3196 4 месяца назад
@@kwgib ok ! I here you.
@EvanVincent.
@EvanVincent. 2 года назад
I think another reason that this album gets revered so highly is that in every genre or style of music, you have those album outliers. Those records that cross boundaries, stylistically, culturally and offer a bridge into a world that other albums may not be interested in granting access. Kind of blue takes people who 'dont get jazz' or 'dont like jazz' and invite them to the table with open arms.
@JubilationMedia
@JubilationMedia 2 года назад
you have to theorise why it is held in such high acclaim, because the truth is, it's mediocre. We're constantly told Miles Davis is the greatest Jazz musician who ever existed, and all you can point to is him improvising over a simple blues. Sure, it sounds relaxing. But without the hype and videos like this, no one would think much of it.
@loxeggcheese
@loxeggcheese 5 лет назад
the comparison between painting and jazz is very fruitful. The move towards small bands during the war emphasized the development of the self, manifesting as personal mastery and individuated sound. A renewed culture of individualism also emerged painting in the 19th c. from the increased international influence and the advent of the camera. New ideas of representation from overseas were introduced that allowed painters to emancipate themselves from the rigid naturalism of the renaissance. There was little use for painters to continue to do what photographs seemingly perfected. Great video, I have never understood why this album gets the special praise it does. The playing is outstanding for sure, but it has always felt to me like another great session. Every member of the band would go on to record albums that feel more monumental in scope. And with miles, I've always found his sessions with bird to be far more interesting than those of this time.
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 3 года назад
Good that you mentioned that for some performers, the spaces between the notes matter as much as the notes themselves.
@jackwilloughby239
@jackwilloughby239 2 года назад
Starting at the age of Nineteen, my Jazz education began with Charlie Parker. Savoy then Dial. I still prefer the Dial recordings. Now I was learning these tunes by ear on the Violin, having come from Bluegrass. The next pivotal recording for me was "the Complete Birth of the Cool." I wish now, that I had just gone on from there to the "Workin', Relaxin', Steamin'" albums, because I believe that it was these albums that were most influential on Musicians. From a recording concept "KoB" hands down, but from a playing point of view, a players viewpoint, the "Workin', Relaxin' & Steamin' " albums are the Meat and Potatoes of Modern Jazz. Kind of Blue is the Port and Cigars afterwards. Everything else from Coltrane to Mingus to Wayne is Late Night to Early Dawn. What I hear these days is Breakfast Cereal and Brunch.
@tuliothx
@tuliothx 2 года назад
As a teenager in the mid 70s, my introduction to jazz was thru the CTI label and musicians like Deotato, Bob James, Stanley Turrentine. These guys introduced electric instruments (bass, electric piano, huge drum sets) to their arrangements and I thought that this was the definition of jazz. But towards the end of the 70s, I discovered Kind Of Blue. In the song So What, the introduction of the melody by the bass was something that literally blew me away. And Miles was heavily criticized for allowing the bass to lead the melody: a move considered a sacrilege at the time. To me, this is an album that whenever I listen to it again, I find something new I didn't hear before. That's what makes a true masterpiece.
@GendunCh
@GendunCh 3 года назад
I'd be interested to hear more about this question on the technical level. The main thing I've always been told is that "Kind of Blue" is revolutionary because it was a key work in promoting the use of modal improvisation.
@92ninersboy
@92ninersboy 2 года назад
That's one of the things it did.
@dazzjazz
@dazzjazz 2 года назад
That’s only partially true - Cannonball and Wynton play the blues throughout.
@scook9999
@scook9999 5 лет назад
I still have no problem recommending Kind of Blue as a starting place for jazz listening. Yes, there is more, but not a bad place to begin.
@garykay7418
@garykay7418 2 года назад
i love jazz music but this album is probably my favorite. it is what i would call perfect. and it always sounds good regardless of what mood i might be in at the time. it never gets boring.
@davidrumpler5528
@davidrumpler5528 5 лет назад
Great points. I think Miles learned about the power of contrast from playing with Bird, an instrumental virtuoso who chose the cool-toned middle register Miles as his foil. After Miles lost Coltrane to his solo career, he found another contrasting player in Wayne Shorter. The difference there was that, by that time, in some cases, _Miles_ was the fiery one, with Shorter's cool tone and penchant for melody providing balance.
@Mooseman327
@Mooseman327 2 года назад
Yes, Miles liked contrast in his soloists. He told Dave Liebman to play a lot of notes because he wanted to play more sparingly at that time.
@TheTubeDude
@TheTubeDude 2 года назад
"Kind of Blue" was a Pop/Sell-out, gone commercial LP sold to the Jazz community. It was great great great. Genius is an overused term; Miles was a true genius. His supporting cast were or became giants. I love the music. This recording paved the way for a "Kind of Pop" wave in New York jazz.
@OS-yg9fr
@OS-yg9fr 2 года назад
pop/sell out??? lol no.
@MichelleHell
@MichelleHell 2 года назад
Kind of Blue isn't what got me into jazz, but when I heard it that's when I started thinking of music in colors and knew I wanted to be a jazz musician for life. I'm a simple person when it comes to listening to music - does it sound good? Then you analyze why it sounds good.
@dpclerks09
@dpclerks09 8 месяцев назад
I was blessed to have stumbled upon this album as a 15-16 year old in the mid 2000's and this along with the album Focus by the band Cynic (which surprisingly has a lot of musical ties to this album) changed the way that I listened to, and understood music, forever.
@eaustin2006
@eaustin2006 2 года назад
What differentiates Kind of Blue and Time Out is the emphasis on composition. Jazz in my view has always had a composition problem, too much virtuosity and formulaic soloing and an over reliance on standards and jazz tropes (Autumn Leaves, Favorite Things, Summertime, don't get me started). Both of these great albums had wonderful original compositions. I was 13 in 1959 and played with a couple of other kids around our area in upstate NY. We did just about everything from Time Out, jazz prodigies that we were. It was a blast.
@ianboard544
@ianboard544 2 года назад
I wasn't really into jazz, but the album just grabbed me. It was one of those magic moments when everything just came together - fantastic individual talents playing off each other with a big dose of inspiration. You can't plan something like this. Glad the tape machine was running.
@ganazby
@ganazby 2 года назад
In the rock/pop world, I would suggest that David Bowie bears some similarity to Miles: ever shifting style (yet always maintaining his personal stamp), and a painterly approach to the music. I agree with all of Ted’s points. For me, KoB has a haunting perfection, and is a pristine and endlessly deep reflection of its author’s vision.
@ericmckayrq
@ericmckayrq 2 года назад
Agree with Bowie comparison
@sirjer73
@sirjer73 2 года назад
Prince also
@brucevair-turnbull8082
@brucevair-turnbull8082 2 года назад
Yes, I've thought that myself. Bowie was a nicer guy though.
@jonbarnhart1947
@jonbarnhart1947 3 года назад
When I studied music in college in the early to mid 90s KOB was definitely considered top tier.
@thefaustiananointed6166
@thefaustiananointed6166 3 года назад
It always has been and always will be AMEN!
@WilFennell
@WilFennell 2 года назад
Many thanks, Ted! Your insights into creative tension and the parallels between Miles and Picasso are illuminating. And the focus on style over technique and virtuosity is helpful for understanding so much of modern art of all kinds. The point about knowing what to leave out ("less is more" in a way?) reminds me of the advice Miles (a few year after KOB) gave Herbie Hancock: "Don't play the butter notes."
@krking533
@krking533 2 года назад
The analogy to painting and visual art is brilliant, so illuminating. Great video!
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm 2 месяца назад
Legend has it, Ted is still reeling it in.
@GlenGarcia1961
@GlenGarcia1961 Год назад
When I was a student at a design school, learning graphic design and the concepts in visual art overall, there was an important phenomenon that was discussed, not as a taboo, but as a lesson in paying attention to the balance between two basic forms of visual space, the positive and negative space, and this particular phenomenon, often associated with young and not as fully-realized artists, was the obsession with filling as much of the negative space on a visual canvas as possible. In some cases, it would work. But when it became an obsession, a dogma as opposed to a freely chosen creative choice, often you ended up with a big cluttered visual depiction of exquisitely rendered techniques and details, but the overall depiction had no life. It had no room visually to breathe. We called this phenomenon "horror vacui. Fear of the empty spaces. Fear of the negative space, and in your description of Miles' quiet admonition to his audience in "Something Blue" to "pay attention to style, not technique," this is what visual artists learn when they are taught about the allure, but also potentially disastrous visual implications, of horror vacui. An interesting analogy to how negative space in music - the spaces in time between notes, the use of silence to bring a temporal canvas to life by giving it room to breathe - is the pioneering early funk band the Meters. When they recorded what is likely their most famous song "Cissy Strut," the band's producer, Allen Toussaint, urged the band to give greater importance not to the notes that were played, but instead to the notes that weren't. I believe, just as a life-time amateur musician and fan of music that this is also what Miles Davis was saying, as a lesson on the tendency in jazz to obsess over virtuosity and technique. In that case, the tyranny of technical virtuosity over the necessity of silence in its vital role to create temporal space for the overall sound to breathe in was jazz music's own version of "horror vacui." It's what killed a lot of rock music after the advent of Van Halen and the shred mentality of the technical virtuosos, determined to fill every space in a piece of music, until there was no silence left to let the pieces live anymore, and their self-made horror vacui created a tableau of cluttered sounds and rapidly sprayed notes of exauisite expression individually, but crammed onto a temporal canvas, had no life of their own beyond the moment in which they existed, and the genre, which had already dumped its roots and inspirations in the blues, collapsed. That's my takeaway from "Kind of Blue."
@Aswaguespack
@Aswaguespack 2 года назад
To use the word “Extraordinary” to describe the band Miles surrounded himself in those historical sessions might be an understatement because that aggregation of musicians was without a doubt the most varied ensemble gathering ever assembled in a session. Bill Evans brought the colors that Miles painted with. Miles always was fascinated by harmonies and Bill Evans brought the modalities of the French Impressionist composers to blend with Miles’ interest in harmonic “colors”. To compare art work with the modern musical concepts evolving is very accurate. Music and art have always had a unique relationship with each other. Miles was also dabbling in his own interest in painting. Kind of Blue incorporated so many nuances it became possibly the most influential recording in all of Modern Jazz after WW2. Sure it can be debated but it stands high and above so many other excellent examples of recorded jazz to be singled out by so many. Excellent presentation. Very enjoyable. Thanks
@barrylyndongurley
@barrylyndongurley 2 года назад
I suspect that Bill Evan's set the tone for " Kind of Blue." Many believe that he wrote the tune. If so, his minimalist approach effected Miles's aesthetic. Evan's liner notes are key. Musical economy may be why it's such a singular achievement in both sales and musical beauty.
@stretch54
@stretch54 2 года назад
Bill Evan's modal influence on the record is very evident.
@southerner66
@southerner66 2 года назад
Along these lines, there's a sense of space around each phrase that allows you to hear the nuances of what each player is doing, and that, to me, greatly increases the emotional impact of the performances. You hear every detail of the shape of the notes.
@barrylyndongurley
@barrylyndongurley 2 года назад
@@southerner66 That's a good point. It may have also been the combined effects of heroin and Evan's use of the French aesthetic " depouillement," or literally, "de-lousing." This process picks off all extraneous notes, leaving only the minimum. This may have been a welcome change for the listeners too, from the sometimes interminable soloing of that period.
@southerner66
@southerner66 2 года назад
Like Satie? It's also more challenging for the players because you have to get it right. You can't hide in the crowd or pad your solo with familiar patterns.
@barrylyndongurley
@barrylyndongurley 2 года назад
@@southerner66 That's a very good comparison and yes, nowhere to hide!
@martinquirk7468
@martinquirk7468 3 года назад
I don't believe in quantifying art in that way but really enjoyed and already held many of the views that you share in your analysis. Art isn't a competition, and should not be seen as such. I think that Kind of Blue's legacy of influence upon the history and development of popular music is what separates it from all of the other great jazz albums, which is why it took a few decades for the consensus to be reached. James Brown's major opus 'Cold Sweat', widely acknowledged as the first funk record, took its inspiration directly from 'So What', according to its co-writer Pee Wee Ellis. Richard Wright of Pink Floyd is on record detailing the direct influence of Blue In Green and the rest of the album on Dark Side Of The Moon, to name but two pillars of 20th century popular music alone.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 2 года назад
I don’t see this as a competition so much as a if you could only take one jazz album to a desert isle” type question. Or literally as was stated, “if you own just one jazz record, it should be . . .” or “your first jazz album should be . . . “. Yet I can see how you might interpret that as competitive. I think there’s something else at work, too. I’ll put it absurdly. What is the one record you’d make someone listen to to convince them to love jazz? 😄
@ighsight
@ighsight 2 года назад
This is an excellent point. It's the enduring relevance of Kind of Blue for Jazz musicians + aficionados, musicians from other genres, and neophyte Jazz listeners that sets it apart from albums he mentioned like Time Out.
@nilanperera4774
@nilanperera4774 2 года назад
I worked in the jazz basement at A&A records in Toronto in the late '70s. I had just gotten into jazz, I knew that if i wanted to sell an LP on a dead day,, all I had to do was to spin Kind of Blue and no matter if there was otwoor ten customers flipping through the racks...at least one copy was sold. It's avery welcoming and friendly sound!
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 2 года назад
Until Kind of Blue most jazz was about fast key changes. This album introduced 'modality' which allowed musicians to explore more advanced harmony. Plus they're great tunes, played by some of the greatest musicians ever. Helps.
@javierpresa8914
@javierpresa8914 2 года назад
I loved the reflection on "style" versus "virtuosic"...still a lesson to learn for jazz musicians
@rembeadgc
@rembeadgc 2 года назад
I would start someone out with Kind Of Blue because I think that better than any other classic jazz album, it bridges the gap between true jazz music and the then growing modern music sensibility. It's deep and complex enough to be "real jazz" and yet the forms, changes and sentiments are easily relatable with reasonable focus and openness.
@jmad627
@jmad627 2 года назад
Having been a long time rock-n-roll/pop music fan, I agree with you. It’s my second jazz LP, and it’s opening my ears up to more as I’m looking more into the genre and enjoying it more.
@mrfudd13
@mrfudd13 2 года назад
"Close enough for jazz" - Oooh. Thank you for making this video. You have given me an important perspective, given that I am a jazz musician, and also a painter. Your remarks have enabled me to visualize my painting (and music listening) in a more precise way.
@raybrumbeloe5909
@raybrumbeloe5909 2 года назад
One of the remarkable things I always thought about “Kind of Blue” was how these six master musicians all seem to be completely “in sync” (hate that expression) with each other. The transitions from one solo to the next was velvety smooth and ALL superb solos. Especially love “Flamenco Sketches”.
@reynolds8532
@reynolds8532 2 года назад
I don't recall the full details but I thought they had only practiced some of those tracks a time or two. Lots of improve but still melded into perfection with the probability of a lightning strike.
@deskwerks
@deskwerks Год назад
Excellent diagnosis! I never saw Kind of Blue as any sort of "end all, that be all" recording. I do respect and appreciate it for what is, and it is a masterful piece! "Modal jazz" was not entirely new at the time, and Miles himself spoke on that fact fairly regularly. Miles has always been known to jump on the "new" thing sooner than most, and he'd record his take on the 'new direction in the music'. Miles' recordings (being the "coolest" cat around) quickly became the standard by which most others' albums were compared to. The fact that his music appeals to the masses easier/better that many other jazz musicians doesn't mean it is more of a landmark recording. In jazz, I love Bill Evans's music, and in "classical" I love Chopin, but that doesn't mean these two are the best of the best.
@davidaldinger3666
@davidaldinger3666 2 года назад
Kind of Blue was one of those albums that delineated Jazz to a before and after. Not only did it change the way Miles did music, it changed the way all the guys on that album played. It was Miles shedding his skin and going from playing standards to something new
@marcblum5348
@marcblum5348 2 года назад
Exactly. If there is a time before and a time after, you know something special took place. And your can see that delination only fron some distance. So it took some time for jazz historians to see what happened. Other examples of before/after: before/after Charlie Parker, before/after Jimi Hendrix, before/after Jaco Pastorious.
@holleyeugene
@holleyeugene 5 лет назад
Excellent lecture, Ted, very thought-provoking. I hope you put this in your upcoming music book.
@anderscarlsson3387
@anderscarlsson3387 4 месяца назад
That album is one of the few albums with No kind of Ego involved. Nobody tries to shine or impress. Just from the heart. Listen to the drums and bass. Totally supportive of the soloists. Its almost as if all the players are in a dream somehow. Just floating. Also so perfectly recorded and mixed. Important is different to different people. It´s a beautiful record.
@jimslancio
@jimslancio 2 года назад
Your comments on the Kind Of Blue artists made me think of the book Team of Rivals, describing President Lincoln's Cabinet.
@rudysmith6293
@rudysmith6293 7 месяцев назад
Great presentation! I like Kind of Blue, but my favorite Miles Davis album is In A Silent Way. These talks by Ted Gioia are fantastic.
@tokingreens
@tokingreens 2 года назад
One of the few perfect records in any genre. My happy place...
@JJ-cu1fw
@JJ-cu1fw 2 года назад
What a magnificent video Ted. Thank you for sharing it with the world. The lessons here expand far beyond the confines of jazz. Bravo!
@johnwade7430
@johnwade7430 2 года назад
When I was a young flute player = about 42 years ago I was lucky enough to have a working woodwind player who worked in shows. He played flute, clarinet and saxophone for us kids. I asked him the question:’is Kind if blue a good jazz album’ ? And his response was almost reverential. He thought,. That it was one of the most important records ever made.
@GuillermoShelly
@GuillermoShelly 5 лет назад
This is a very deep insight and another eye opening truth from Ted Gioia. Right now I am studying music production at Berklee and of course Kind of Blue is one of the go to albums for Jazz...but I had never thought of it like a painting. This is so cool! Style over virtuosity. In Berklee we are all so obsessed with the technical aspects of music that sometimes it becomes a science instead of an art form.
@nzazzara3111
@nzazzara3111 5 лет назад
Bill wrote 3 tunes on K of B
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 4 года назад
I am sure they have debated this over the years at Berklee but your comment about science v art raises the question 'what is the point of music?'. For non-musicians it is entertainment but for serious musicians going back generations there have been 'cutting contests' and informal jams that were actually competitive underneath the camaraderie on the bandstand. The music became technically more complex and expanded the theoretical boundaries to the point that many listeners had no idea what was going on. Back in the 1950's the great conductor Sir Thomas Beecham said 'The British don't really like music, they just like the noise it makes' and I think this is what can be said for Kind Of Blue as well. Most people who bought the album had no idea what modes are in musical terms, they just liked the tunes.
@JohnnyArtPavlou
@JohnnyArtPavlou 2 года назад
@@Veaseify, I would say the thing about modes… The thing about really tasty progressions with extended chords, (and complex harmonic movement) is that they evoke and invoke so many emotional subtleties and colors. The same way that we have receptors in the in our eyes, and the brain has the ability to decode thousands and thousands of colors… Our hearing faculties and whatever they get connected to in and through the brain… Have the ability to distinguish the harmonic richness and coloration in expanded musical forms and also be moved by melodies that utilize unconventional intervals.
@greywhite8832
@greywhite8832 2 года назад
Ted knows Jazz, loves his books and substack. Cannot believe I just found he had a RU-vid channel.
@michaelhagerth1196
@michaelhagerth1196 2 года назад
Excellent discussion of this album. In 7th grade a big band came to my school and I asked one of the band members what album should I buy to get into jazz. His advice was to buy ANY Miles Davis album… which is probably not very good advice! Luckily by some chance the album I purchased was Kind of Blue and I have spent the rest of my years loving jazz. But it could have ended very differently.
@92ninersboy
@92ninersboy 2 года назад
Back in the 90's I was in the jazz section of a record/cd store (they use to have those) and this young black guy approached me and said that he was interested in checking out jazz and wondered if I knew of a good recording to start with. I immediately brought him over to Kind of Blue, where he lingered for a bit to look over the cd. Unfortunately, almost immediately the young lady sales person came over to him and guided him away from KOB and brought him over to the latest Kenny G. release (I'm sure even Kenny G. himself would have been embarassed by this). I saw that he bought it but I like to think that eventually he found his way to Miles and the Gang of Greats. The devil never rests.
@reynolds8532
@reynolds8532 2 года назад
Beyond legendary performances and composition, it is regarded equally so for the recording quality. It is a staple in the audiophile community. This likely hasn't hurt it's popularity.
@RTFan52
@RTFan52 5 лет назад
I'm not so sure those who recommend Kind of Blue as a good introduction to jazz do so because they consider it the single greatest jazz album of all time. I think it is because, compared to most other contenders for the greatest jazz album title, it is easy on the ears of novice listeners. It can be played as background music at a dinner party, the tunes are catchy, and even the solos are hummable. It introduces some of the greatest players in jazz history, playing great music, but in a more palatable way than, say, A Love Supreme. Personally, I think Sunday at the Village Vanguard would make an equally good introductory album.
@eddiemperor
@eddiemperor 3 года назад
"Music For a Dinner Party" uhh No.
@RTFan52
@RTFan52 3 года назад
@@eddiemperor Well, I think there is a difference between music *for* a dinner party and music which won't upset dinner party guests who aren't jazz fans.
@Markymarkvinylnut
@Markymarkvinylnut 3 года назад
Sunday is my favourite...can't wait for the uhqr
@zerklang
@zerklang 2 года назад
Yes, this, 100%. As a kid growing up in the 70s/80s, big band, trad jazz, etc., were still popular and very accessible. But someone gave me a copy of Kind of Blue when I was about 14 and it was the perfect gateway into so much more. I learned about Coltrane *because* of KoB. I bought Bitches Brew as the obvious next step in hearing Miles' music. Somehow I found Mingus, Monk, & Ornette shortly thereafter. Etc. And, eventually, I even bought an alto and tried to learn Charlie Parker solos. "Greatest" is a pointless exercise. But I don't think any other jazz album has ever opened up so much for me. If someone had given me, say, Mingus Ah Um instead, that might have worked equally well. But KoB is still my go-to answer to "I want to learn more about jazz, where do I start?"
@ralphscore7501
@ralphscore7501 2 года назад
I was 16 when I walked into a record store and bought my first two albums. One was "Kind of Blue" and the other was Black Sabbath "Paranoid". Caught some very strange looks from the guy behind the counter. My dad was a jazz piano player on weekends and my brother was a rock and roll drummer. I'm blessed with the diversity of music I've gotten to experience.
@drewingersoll606
@drewingersoll606 2 года назад
A couple of things make this a great album that aren't widely considered - and that is weed and headphones. As stereo systems added headphones and kids started to smoke weed - these two made this album a perfect combination. Word of mouth spread and this album really moves into the upper league of great albums. It's the "Dark Side of the Moon" for jazz.
@hubbsllc
@hubbsllc 2 года назад
I have KOB but haven't listened to it much. I acknowledge his genius and that of his sidemen but what I really appreciate Miles Davis for more than anything else is that so many of his sidemen founded and/or participated in the whole jazz-fusion movement that helped build the musical brain I went forward with.
@davidberndt6275
@davidberndt6275 2 года назад
I got here via Rick Beato and glad I did! Thanks Ted
@ImHavingaCoronary
@ImHavingaCoronary 4 месяца назад
It’s a masterpiece, absolutely. That is all that really needs to be said about any master piece. I always get an uncomfortable feeling when people say “this is the greatest of all”.
@joekaplowitz2719
@joekaplowitz2719 2 года назад
Kind Of Blue is ancient yet modern. It makes a connection between all that was before and all that would continue to be. I can listen to it as a child and as a professional musician. It played a large part in my early exposure to music and I value that as priceless!
@TheAppalachianSon
@TheAppalachianSon 2 года назад
Kind of Blue was my intro to Jazz and will forever be an all time favorite.
@HankleburyTV
@HankleburyTV 2 года назад
Coltrane's solo on "Flamenco Sketches" is enough to seal it for me. It's the most brilliantly constructed passage of improvisation I know of.
@daveroberts117
@daveroberts117 2 года назад
There are two reasons why this is the GOAT: 1) Bill and 2) Evans. Without him this would have been just another slapped together blowing session.
@shawn13mertle13
@shawn13mertle13 2 года назад
Good commentary on my first Jazz cd. Miles Davis had a saying it's not the notes that I play, it's the notes that I don't play. More people should learn to play like this. The music should always go in front of the player.
@robertalker652
@robertalker652 2 года назад
Enjoyed this very much. However, the point made regarding recording technologies caught my ear. It reminded me how I got the album as a Christmas gift, played it, and immediately found that one of the most appealing aspects of this 1959 album was the quality of the recording.
@dannyhughes4889
@dannyhughes4889 2 года назад
'Sweat Rain' is one of my favorites....Getz and friends did an 'out of this World' job on it.
@DISGUYROX
@DISGUYROX 2 года назад
My intro into jazz was during the "swing" days. I'm from Chicago and, when I was in my single digitized age(mid/late 1940's/early 1950's) I listened to a night time DJ show called "Harmony Highway". The DJ was Dan Sorkin and we could call in requests. It was basically swing. Then I happened to find another AM station>>WAAF, a station whose DJ's were Jesse Owens(YES, THAT Jesse) and a couple of others who played jazz such as Marty Faye(the brother of Fay Wray who hung out on the Empire State bldg with King Kong.LOL There were very few of us who were into jazz/blues during this R&R time for kids/teens yet, we survived and thrived. Then in 1959, the album was released that turned on(educated) many who were not into or sneered racially at jazz. That was Time Out. For several years, jazz was "cool" in Chicago. I used to haunt a great jazz club in the loop~~the Blue note Lounge. There was a section for kids with no alcohol. The controller of today wouldn't allow that. I got to see/hear and enjoy many artists who I only knew from recordings. Back to KOB. I have always felt that a major aspect of its popularity and acceptance by newbies was that it is "gentle". It was not "In your face" as is hard bop which I always enjoyed. It was like fine dining with each course ssssssssssliding easily into the next. The film "Bird" helped open some closed minds to jazz, even if it turned a few away because "drgus". The closing number is one of the most "comfortable/easy" numbers to introduce anyone to jazz~~ Even the cover image is nice~ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U2N8bVpRneQ.html&ab_channel=HenryCooper
@davidgaughran5450
@davidgaughran5450 2 года назад
It was the first Jazz album I bought. I had moved to a new city and I lived in a bedsit. I had no music with me, so i bought A Kind of Blue and a compilation of John Coltrane. I had heard my father listen to Jazz and I had always liked it, so I wanted something like that sound. My bedsit was freezing most of the time, but god that music always raised the temperature by a few degrees!
@ryanphelan6861
@ryanphelan6861 2 года назад
always thought "Blues and the abstract truth" especially track "stolen moments" has playing and a stylistic and aesthetic similar and its really quite similar recipe in world class players getting together for a once off masterpiece bill evans, roy haynes, freddie hubbard, dolphy being the coltrane type, Paul Chambers, and Oliver Nelson its just incredible to me. Kind of blue is pristine imo but so is art tatum and absolute master can't reach higher level of virtuosity I don't think equal for sure but nothing beyond he's again pristine , Agree and miles was an artist never put drawing or paintings down lol such style for sure. Well put.
@ighsight
@ighsight 2 года назад
Nice call here. That album and especially Stolen Moments are sublime.
@nakdag1617
@nakdag1617 2 года назад
Thumbs up if you love Cannonball Adderley!
@mickeyguitarwes
@mickeyguitarwes 2 года назад
In addition to the harmonic innovations and the way modes unleashed brilliant playing by brilliant players, I think it was the combination of great art with simple human accessibility. Miles as conceptual artist.
@seenochasm7101
@seenochasm7101 2 года назад
This man presents like musical artists play. Very savory indeed. Bravo
@nickblood7080
@nickblood7080 2 года назад
Amazing. Amazing, amazing! So well spoken. Thank you for this brilliantly articulated piece.
@artmob3027
@artmob3027 2 года назад
Wonderful from Ted who has literally written the book on jazz, and several times over really. I'll just say I believe Live at the Blackhawk '62 to be vastly under-rated.
@JAKESONGmusings
@JAKESONGmusings Год назад
Ted thank you for this thought provoking video on Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" LP. Great job, -JM!
@tranquil2706
@tranquil2706 2 года назад
A friend turned me on to Kind of Blue way back in the 70s. Still crazy about it. I listen to it several times of year. Mesmerizing Read Ashley Kahn’s book only later.
@tizaniceday9249
@tizaniceday9249 2 года назад
Excellent summation of Kind of Blue. K.O.B. and Time Out are probably my two favourite jazz records. Flamenco Sketches, to me, is one of the greatest tracks ever. And that musical divergence that the speaker talks about is one of the reasons why. Davis, Coltrane and Adderly all bring their individuality to the track.And then - Bill Evans with that sublime piano.
@thebreathalyzer
@thebreathalyzer 2 года назад
I remember not initially liking Savoy SLJ2201 (Charlie Parker: The Savoy Master Takes) as much as some more modern recordings because of the sound quality. I'd probably put those Charlie Parker recordings near the pinnacle of post-swing jazz. Love KOB, I think it's the album where Miles' reputation to assemble great bands really cemented (along with Birth of the Cool).
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 2 года назад
For my money, Ellington, Mingus, and Roach on Money Jungle might be the second album you should own. It was out of print for so long it became an “obscure gem”. The first time I heard it was a cassette copy of an LP. It’s an amazing collaboration with a lot of tension from the head butting that went on.
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 2 года назад
Oh my goodness yes! Money Jungle rocks! I love Duke Ellington but it's like Mingus and Max lit a fire under him.
@MrCrescendo
@MrCrescendo 2 года назад
I was a casual jazz fan in college in the 1980s and at that time I would have identified KOB as the greatest according to my limited understanding at the time. It was always my favorite.
@christopherjones1649
@christopherjones1649 2 года назад
I heard "Bitches Brew" and other fusion records long before I heard "Kind of Blue" and it took me a while to get it. However, before I even knew anything about Coltrane, I do remember that it was his solos on KoB that stood out for me the most. This was long before I was a musician and eventually became a jazz musician.
@Emlizardo
@Emlizardo 2 года назад
There is something uncanny about all the players' solos on Kind of Blue. They sound as if they are through-composed. They are so sure, landing every note with such authority, that us listeners are hard pressed to imagine the outcome any other way.
@rmac1042
@rmac1042 2 года назад
That’s the way I felt… especially Flamenco Sketches! I really feel the first take was magic, a nexus if you will of all the forces of that one take. I’ve never (as an 80 year-old pianist-composer who has listened to this record over 60 years) cared for the alternate take of Flamenco Sketches. It seems to lack the fire and spirit of the originally released one. Just my personal view.
@Libertariun
@Libertariun 2 года назад
Here from Rick Beato. Excellent interview there. Look forward to reading more of your output.
@Gustolfo
@Gustolfo 5 лет назад
His ideas have left me pondering the value of one of my favorite records. I can not stop thinking about the fact that Davis also painted, which ties in with his idea of style and painting. Thanks and greetings from Lima, Peru.
@nzazzara3111
@nzazzara3111 5 лет назад
Bill did abstract drawings 3 tunes written by BE
@302indian
@302indian 2 года назад
I find it interesting that most great musicians who get into the visual arts usually suck at it. Miles included.
@Sara-yz7nc
@Sara-yz7nc 2 года назад
Looks like your channel has been blessed by the algorythm! Look at all of us here at the same time suddenly
@juancpgo
@juancpgo 2 года назад
From 1958 to 1965 basically every jazz album released by one of “the greats” was a mind-blowing awesome transcendent masterpiece. It was the confluence of great engineering, great musicianship, and of the art going from bebop and standards into new and distinct compositions and fusion with other styles. Some of the artists that made those masterpieces: Miles, Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans, Sonny Rollins, Stan Getz, Wayne Shorter, Eric Dolphy, Charles Mingus, Oliver Nelson, Dave Brubeck, Art Blakey, Joe Henderson, Lee Morgan, Hank Mobley, Horace Silver, Dizzy Gillespie, Chick Corea, Freddie Hubbard, Herbie Hancock, McCoy Tyner, Ornette Coleman, Art Farmer, Blue Mitchell, Donalld Byrd, The Modern Jazz Quartet, Oscar Peterson, Ahmad Jamal, Phineas Newborn Jr., Sonny Clark, Andrew Hill, Paul Bley, Jimmy Smith, Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, Jimmy Heath, Benny Golson and Johnny Griffin. Any album by any of these guys in that period is really, really superb and highly sophisticated and exciting art.
@juancpgo
@juancpgo 2 года назад
And Thelonious Monk! How could I forget him. Also Dexter Gordon, Stanley Turrentine, Sonny Stitt and Jackie McLean.
@302indian
@302indian 2 года назад
Gene Ammons…Blue Gene.
@jabbahursty
@jabbahursty 2 года назад
i knew a guy who was a big jazz guy, claiming he owns over 10,000 albums. at some point, he stopped listening to nearly all of these albums as he played "kind of blue" all day/every day, claiming that it's the only album that matters. that's something
@jabbahursty
@jabbahursty 2 года назад
i have one other miles davis story, but am too tired to write it out now
@derekmiller5085
@derekmiller5085 2 года назад
Greetings Mr. Gioia. New sub and fan from your interview w/ Rick Beato. I'm looking forward to absorbing your insight.
@uneedtherapy42
@uneedtherapy42 2 года назад
To me it will always be about Blue In Green... there is just such a beautiful melancholy about that tune... a loneliness....
@garyhughes1664
@garyhughes1664 2 года назад
For me, Kind of Blue is the greatest jazz album ever made, but there are many others that would make it onto my list. Here are twenty others (in alphabetical order): Billie Holiday (Lady In Satin); Brubeck (Time Out); Coleman (The Shape of Things to Come); Coltrane (A Love Supreme, Giant Steps); Kamasi Washington (The Epic); Bill Evans (Moon Beams); Herbie Hancock (Maiden Voyage, Head Hunters); Freddie Hubbard (Straight Life); John McLaughlin (Extrapolation); Miles Davis (Bitches Brew); Stan Tracey (Under Milk Wood); Mingus (Ah Um); Monk (The Blue Note Years); Parker (many recordings); Weather Report (Heavy Weather); Sonny Rollins (Saxophone Colossus); Wayne Shorter (Speak No Evil); and Horace Silver (Song for My Father).
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