I'm fairly sure that the reason we couldn't escape 4546B with the Seamoth is that it's not designed to escape a planet's gravity from the surface. It cannot fly. Presumably it would be launched from a larger ship already in orbit or in space, and could be used to travel between ships or space stations, or to explore smaller bodies such as meteors which have minimal gravity.
I believe the seamoth can actually go even faster in a straight line if you tilt forward perfectly by 45 degrees and go up and forward at the same time.
@@iAletho I don't mean to nitpick or be annoying, but in vacuum or in orbit (of an earth-mass planet), a seamoth would be travelling at ~9Km/s squared due to orbital velocity
A few notes: 0:50 Yes, the seamoth's engine wouldn't produce nearly enough thrust for flight water and air propellers are very different, one can spin pretty slowly because water is dense, the other needs to spin hella fast to make meaningful thrust. It also lack any decent lifting surface. for space, i'd imagine you could adapt it to work like an ion thruster or something... in orbit, you really don't need a lot of thrust, very little actually, the space shuttle's orbital maneuvering system had a total thrust in a vacuum of around 50 kN. that's very little for something as heavy as that orbiter. yet, it was enough to perform orbital insertion (take too long on that and you'll fall back to the atmosphere and die) and ion engines have abysmal thrust, it would be impossible to perform orbital insertion with that propulsion system. space travel is about precise, well-timed velocity changes, not thrust/acceleration (unless you're landing somewhere without atmosphere, doing an orbital insertion, or going anywhere that requires a lot of deltaV, such as from low earth orbit to lunar encounter, as that would make it a bit of a hassle with really tiny accelerations) 2:16 The only speed limit in space is the speed of light, besides that there's no such thing as "space top speed" so, instead of top speed you'll have your total deltaV which comes from how much fuel you have and how efficient your engine is. anyways, cool video, i liked the edition. hope you learned something new from this comment
Propellers only work when they have a medium to push backwards. The seamoth is stated to be a sea and space vehicle, so it has to have some form of future electric propulsion system since it only ever needs to be charged and doesn't need xenon refills like an ion engine. It still wouldn't realistically be able to fly though, as it doesn't have any airfoils so it can't fly like an airplane, so it definitely couldn't take off from 4546b on its own.
An extra small bite size Subnautica lore video for you all today on Subnautica's Seamoth! What do you think of this shorter video format compared to my usually longer content? Edit: It turns out I got my figures wrong on the Seamoths dimensions. Its 3m long, 1.5m wide and a 1m tall rather than 3m tall, 1.5m long and 1m wide as said in the video, looks like I need to brush up on how I read my dimensions!! Thanks to Ross and ItsTheIceCream for the corrections :D
I figured you misspoke just looking at the Seamoth. Its dimension from front to back is clearly its longest. No hard feelings, though, it's a minor error easily corrected. 🙂
To me it makes complete sense that the Seamoth can’t “Hover” or exit the water. Very little actual propulsion is needed when you’re actually in space to move around, similar to underwater. Meanwhile above water you have to fight the planets gravitational pull to move upwards.
I think people forget just how far you are away from civilization. Even if you could leave orbit with a seamoth, you're still lightyears away from anyone.
Well, the Titan rocket can reach the "nearest jump gate" fairly promptly, so presumably that isn't all that far away Of course the Titan's engines put out a helluva lot more thrust than the Seamoth's, so it likely accelerates a lot faster.
Just got back into Subnautica and your video caught my eye on the steam community page. Great video and quality. Your content deserves a larger audience. Keep it up!
i'm pretty sure it's not powerful enough to reach escape velocity and that's why you can't use it. however, you could build a catapult or trebuchet to launch it into space yourself - but without warp capabilities, where would you go?
Some corrections worth noting... -The most likely reason you can't take off with seamoth is because its engines are not strong enough to achieve escape velocity or even take off. They are probably meant for a microgravity environment. Even if it had strong enough propulsion, with its battery life, it probably wouldn't make it far. -You completely mixed up your dimensions for the Seamoth. You say the height is 3 m, the length is 1.5 m, and the width is 1 m. It should be obvious just by looking at the image shown, that the vessel is longer and wider than it is tall. The dimensions given in the PDA are most likely ordered by XYZ axis, so the correct dimensions would be 1 m in height, 3 m in length, and 1.5 m in width. -There is no such thing as a top speed in space. Vehicles in space don't experience any drag, so they never slow down. It can keep going faster and faster as long as it has fuel. I think the top speed of 46.8 km/h is indeed supposed to be its underwater speed. The slight speed discrepancy we have in game might just be a developer oversight. There are also some modern submarines that are faster than this speed. The K-222 can attain a top speed of 83 km/h.
Seamoth is fast in space and water enviroments. But what about the prawn suit? By using the prawn suit grappling arm, you can launch yourself. (From my personal experience) it can launch you to up to 30 units of speed according to the game's sidebar thing. Just get a grappling arm, aim it to the ground, and shoot, wait for it to stick, and when you start hearing the prawn suit legs stomp really fast, hold spacebar and you go FLYING.
Haha sounds like you can fly quite far! I'll be sure to do a video on the Prawn in the future so I'll see what I can uncover! Thanks for watching Frog!
@@iAletho Supposedly the Prawn with 2 Grapple arms is one of the fastest modes of travel in the game besides the rather situational teleporters. The only thing that's faster would be glitches, Like riding certain things using the propulsion cannon.
Thanks Aristotle Motivation! I'll be sure to take that onboard and dial it down a tad next time, I've recently been brushing on my editing skills so might have gone a bit overboard! 😂Cheers again for the comment and the kind words!
See, the reason that the Seamoth cannot travel outside a vacuum space like water or space itself is because of that the small thrusters are simply not strong enough, gravity is stronger while you get closer and closer to most of the mass. And as an example of that i got this: if i was closer to the center of the earth gravity would actually not be as strong because of the fact that more mas would be above me than below me, meaning itd try to pull me up as well as down. While on the surface on the planet the mass would be below me and gravity would pull me downwards instead of 2 different directions. also air is being pulled down because of gravity too. which builds up atmosphere. with that said, the atmosphere tries to pull the object downwards too, resulting in stronger gravity. With all that said, the thrusters has no use what so ever outside the vacuum of space or the vacuum of water.
Wow a very thoughtful and insightful comment MaxTheLast! Somewhat of a scientist are you? Definitively information that I didn't know for sure! Thanks for watching! :)
Anybody else want a Subnautica spin-off in a Zero-G enviroement? Like your Ship gets hit out in space and you have to try and parse together the stuff to escape in a ship with airless sections with Zero gravity. Seems really plausible, since the engine wouldn't even need to be changed that much...
Gaming's most iconic vehicles? Maybe if you only play indie games And the reason you cant escape on a sea moth is because its meant to be like a space shuttle, it cant make the trek into and out of planets gravitational fields' but it can propel itself around in space effortlessly
Or if you want an even more hilarious comparison of the 25.2 mph forward only speed of the Seamoth in the oceans of 4546b, that is roughly equivalent to the maximum top speed of both Corgi breeds.
I think you must have missed the lore PDA's that describes how the Seamoth's and PRAWN suits were intended to be utilized in the construction of Alterra Phase-Gates for long distance travel. That's why the Aurora was making a slingshot maneuver around a world that was lesser known. I personally believe the Seamoth's thrusters would be insanely overpowered in space. It can already go fast underwater, but without any resistances in a pure weightless vacuum of space we'd be capable of traveling hundreds of meters per second. However, escaping the gravity of a planet is much harder than moving through space or water; that's why we have the Aurora.
I noticed that the vector addition with three thrusters should not come out to 70.2 KPH, you rounded the m/s up to 19.49 and then you multiplied by 3.6 I think, but if you don't round up or use the value of one thruster in KPH, you should come out 70.1 KPH. Just something I noticed I guess...
i think the seamoth should have a speed or aerodynamics module that optimizes it specifically for underwater traversing, making it about 1.5x to 2x as fast when at full speed. itd make it a bit more useful since when compared to the other vehicles, its severely outclassed
Great video, very informative Just one tip to avoid reapers, pretend they are not there. They won’t be able to catch up if you don’t look back. Just don’t look at it and go about your business and he won’t be able to do anything
I was not aware the seamoth used thrusters to move , jets seem more reasonable in the water , and the vehicle itself only needs power cells , not propellant that thrusters would require.
Unless the Seamoth is carrying a huge fuel tank and rocket boosters... or you attach the bottom of the escape rocket to one, it's not going into space and thus escaping the planet.
Only makes me appreciate the super seaglide of yesteryear even further haha, that used to go waaay faster than the seamoth. Must have been yeeting you around at 50mph or something haha But of course, ages after the games launch, out of nowhere, patched away... I appreciate the labor of love updates and stuff but man I was already sad enough that was patched in below zero, I assume they just copied over all the seaglide code which changed the controls too. It was just such a fun glitch thats almost impossible to have happen by accident and damage your play through, and it was nice for speedruns. Trade power use and infinite power with swim charge for super speed. And trade the safety and O2 of a vehicle for super speed. Honestly isnt even that unbalanced haha
Also, did you take into account that because space has no air friction the seamoth could theoretically accelerate to 100 meters per second while in the vacuum of space
@@iAletho Wouldn't that mean it's 3m long, 1.5m wide and a meter tall? That makes a bit more sense with the in-game vehicle and the dimensions are also usually listed in that order.
Its top speed in space wouldnt really be a top speed. As long as it has fuel it can go faster relative to its environment, the issue is making sure you have enough energy to slow down too, and as for why we didnt use the seamoth to fly: even if it had little rocket engines strapped to it escaping a planets gravity when the planet has an atmosphere is nightmarishly difficult to achieve in anything except a rocket specifically designed for it. Maybe the seamoth could eventually get escape velocity on a small atmosphereless moon but never 4546b
1:14 That's... the electroshock defense system module, not the depth or hull reinforcement modules. You showed the wrong thing for what you were talking about lol.
Speed limit in space? Reaching Escape velocity in a seamoth or travelling through air? Please, read your script and think it through before you say something. Other than that, decent video.
As far as sustaining hits from a leviathan, don’t try it. I’ve lost 2 of my sea moths to leviathan attacks and I didn’t even get to use them for long 😭
@@iAletho That "top speed" doesn't make any sense in space except as an OHSA rule or crash rating. For comparison, the AMUs during the Gemini program had about 75m/s in the tank.
@@nickdumas2495 It could be because the vehicle is deployed from a carrier ship so its already in space, rather than space flight by leaving the atmosphere, that makes the most sense to me anyway :)
@@iAletho Of course it can't reach orbit on its own; it would need a dV of kilometers per second and also more than 1G of thrust. Doesn't change the fact that "top speed" is a ridiculous concept in space. ;)
@@iAletho Fair enough, but it is a very basic physics issue :D I can only imagine that the stats are completely different in the space model, because I don't want to believe the writer was that ignorant of what they were typing.
The space-faring seamoth likely has a thruster on the back rather than a turbine. Also as a side-note. The aquatic version likely would work well enough with a few changes in an environment with oxygen, yet no gravity
Or... Because it's for sea and space, not air. Air and space aren't the same. I don't get how everyone is missing the gravity factor. It floats in water because it's made to be buoyant enough. It glides through space because there's nothing pulling it down. But in the air, gravity is constantly pulling at it. The ISS can't operate in the lower atmosphere and planes can't work in space, because of the difference in gravity and air resistance between the two environments.
The movement trick, which FPS players call "strafe-running" when doing it on two axes, is more precisely called bichording. Doing it on three axes is called "trichording," and the Descent players have been doing that since forever. The speed on the Pyro GX (Descent) is the same on all axes, meaning the trichording speed is a clean 1.71 times normal speed.
I love the your content, but I have a critique that could improve it (in my opinion) You speak with no gaps it feels like your a hired voice who just wants to leave, leave time for jokes to sink in and don’t rush the script
Haha thanks Toast, I actually deliberately edit out the gaps as I didn't want any dead air time! But I appreciate where you're coming from and see if I can make it a little less intense 😂 thanks for watching :)
Pretty sure a vehicle that can move at 50kmh in space does not have the necessary thrust to fly around in gravity that’s similar to earths. So that explains it pretty simply? Good video otherwise
Yeah it definitely it is! As it's powers by thrusters and not propellers it can also be used in space! The lore doesn't really mention how it does this, but it says it can!
I'm confused about your logic here, a seamoth is capable of traversing space because the gravity is extremely low there, that doesn't correlate to it being able to escape a planet's orbit
The seamoth is NOT three metres tall. Look at the size of the seat. See how big you are next to it. If the seamoth is three metres tall, humans in the future are taller.
