How Is A Titanium Bike Made? | Inside The Moots Factory

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For a time in the 1990s titanium was thought to be the next big thing in cycling frame material, but since the widespread adoption of carbon fibre, titanium has taken somewhat of a backseat. But there are still those who swear by it's properties as a bike frame material, not least Moots Cycles. Manon visited their factory in Colorado to find out how titanium frames are made, and what makes their bikes special.
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@motionstudio77 2 года назад

Thanks Manon & GCN Tech for the great tour, watching how the titanium bike was made is like watching an art presentation, is totally awesome!! Especially the welding part, man, how they handle the detail is freakin cool

@billrobertson2437 2 года назад

Love the dog beginning at 4:15. He crosses back and forth no less than 8 times for no apparent reason other than to be sure he is in the film. I also have some concern for the dogs getting their eyes burned in the welding shop. I just got my Moots Routt YBB about 2 months ago and love it. It is by far the finest bike I have ever owned. It was great to see how my bike was made!

@r.davies2702 2 года назад

Dogs have no place in the workshop.

@karlnorgaard6077 2 года назад

Can you feel a difference in the material compared to a chromoly, aluminum or carbon frame? I hear there's a springyness to a titanium frame.

@lossantoscity3249 2 года назад

Companies that allow pets are the best places to work. I worked in a bike shop that have a few dogs everyone there was so awesome. The only reason i left is i got a better offer on another job and ofcourse i get good bucks but everyone is just pure Ahole.

@lynchs2441 2 года назад

I'm sure they are not allowed to welding shop (due to clean preparation before welding).

@Calum_S 2 года назад

@@lynchs2441 there was a dog in the welding shop

@bittiapina 2 года назад

"This is the fin(n)ish department" 🇫🇮 I see what you did there.

@royevans4581 2 года назад

Aah yes, thanks. I was a bit slow there. 🤣🤣

@jobanski 2 года назад

I saw that up on the wall and thought, “that’s important for something!” Now it all makes sense!

@danhutjens8328 2 года назад

I got a literal LOL from that one. Awesome video!

@eliaskosonen1480 2 года назад

Torille💪

@nplus1watches35 2 года назад

I'd buy one of their frames based on that alone!

@bennetthasty7886 2 года назад

I do LOVE seeing a beautiful bike hand-made in the US 🥰

@Nickolaswright 2 года назад

Such a fabulous episode. Thank you GCN & Moots crew.

@bubblesezblonde 2 года назад

So great to watch skilled artists working with such a great material. Thanks. It takes a while to get the 'feel' of cold-stamping Manon, but it is crazy addicting for some reason.

@nathanielranario7618 2 года назад

Titanium is quite expensive and out of my budget. But if you treat your titanium bike right, it will practically last beyond a lifetime.

@RoyalDudeness 2 года назад

Decathlon is selling a Titanium Gravel Bike for 2700€

@julianallen515 2 года назад

@RealSweetKid Rim brake?

@treygray2817 Год назад

@@cyrilmonkewitz bought 2. Used. Paid $360 for the Lynskey and $380 for the Serotta.

@andrecarvalho1606 7 месяцев назад

My Colnago titanium is still ticking after 25 years.

@Caedo01 2 года назад

23:29 Diabolical 😆 I love Manon's vocab!

@alistersladen1212 2 года назад

Nice post and Manon's a great presenter, and NO not because she's a girl. Its the enthusiasm and how Manon comes across, keep up the good work. 😊

@derx6666 2 года назад

10k for a bike. The bikes are amazing, but 10k... holy moly

@a1white 2 года назад

It’s a handmade bike, made in an expensive material that will last you a lifetime. The cost is probably realistic, for what it is, to be honest

@tomhunter5560 2 года назад

GCN if you are brave you will do a segment about the extraction and refining of Ti. Mr. Lloyd, you owe me this for the pint I bought you in Boulder lol not that you'd recall and rightly so. Basically their carbon footprints are generally the size of Colorado- ten tons of CO2 per ton of Ti, though there may be a thermite 0 carbon solution pending. I have two Ti bikes (both Sandvik) because I think they ride and hold up the best, but the environmental cost is HUGE. C'mon, tell the whole Ti story. Good video here, nicely done, mopping, that's whole reporting story!

@greengonzonz 2 года назад

I can't put my finger on it but there's just someone special about the look of Titanium. 💙💙💙

@simonm1447 2 года назад

Raw Aluminium has a similar look - and the 7xxx Zinc or 6xxx Silicon/Magnesium alloys used for bikes technically don't need coatings (contrary to copper based 2xxx aircraft alloys). If you like the look but Titanium is too expensive raw Aluminium may be an alternative

@LaughingSaint66 2 года назад

I love the welder can bring her dog to work!!! so cool

@johnleclair663 2 года назад

I always love the GCN factory tours - looks like a fun job - especially if you can bring your dog to work !

@marknachmias423 2 года назад

I love the dogs in the shop. I have lots of bikes but my two Moots are my favorites

@CarlCzanik1 2 года назад

I would LOVE to work there....

@vivaparenzo Год назад

Very entertaining video. Not having a head full of facts and numbers after this one. You should always send Manon to factories, except maybe Shimano ones, we don't want to have shortages of bike parts again 😜

@marcelschlebos3975 2 года назад

Very Nice video of Manon.

@Norcalflat Год назад

Nice tour, but very disappointed we didn't get to meet the shop doggos.

@lastname1386 2 года назад

You should come to Chattanooga iv welded Light speed frames and put them together

@rolfaalto 2 года назад

I love titanium -- have 3 classic 90s hardtail frames built up as MTBs and monster gravel. My Moots is my 2nd favorite ... Bontrager TiLite is a step above.

@WhatxKeepsxUsxHere 2 года назад

4:14 - it is like Scary Movie 3 Alien Sightings scene - with doggo.

@robertm1552 2 года назад

What’s more pressure is these frames will out live the life of their owners. That’s the life of Ti, and what Ti by Moots brings to life. That and the ride is unique to none. UBI!!

@Amtcboy 2 года назад

Love this.

@RandyASilva 2 года назад

Seems like a very cool experience!

@davestambaugh7282 2 года назад

What I really want to know is how much vanadium and how much aluminum is added to your titanium???

@junkandcrapamen 2 года назад

You guys should (or probably should have) send that bike to the customer with "Route" on it instead of "Routt". A true one of a kind.

@darkcrystal999 2 года назад

Nice factory and people too! But for me the best feature of this episode is Manon. Manon is ❤️❤️❤️!

@garylitwin7312 2 года назад

Safety glasses 🥽

@MarianVC57 2 года назад

Manon!! you are engaged!! Congrats girl🎉 👏

@miguelstella2 2 года назад

Is she pregnant 🤰?

@MarianVC57 2 года назад

@@miguelstella2 cant tell, we may have another cyclist soon!

@chrisbaum998 2 года назад

Great Video Manon!

@ericvanbockern2550 2 года назад

so well done!

@nitraM321 2 года назад

i have a Moots YBB that is older than the guy making the stays :)

@gcntech Год назад

A real bike for life, love it 🙌

@bobridestwowheels 2 года назад

Outstanding video!!

@seattlegrrlie 2 года назад

Time to quit my job, move to Colorado, and make bikes.... sounds like my dream

@andreemurray7039 2 года назад

Great video love the hands on building just cool 😎

@patricksankovitz5041 2 года назад

Great video! Have been riding Moots for a long time. Legendary bikes, no doubt. First time I can add something of substance to the dialogue. "Routt" rhymes with "out", as in "Go on! Take your Routt and get out and about!" Named after the road, and the county and the nearby National Forest, all of which is named after Colorado's first Governor, John Long Routt (4/25/1826 - 8/13/1907)

@add1cted2l3arning 2 года назад

I couldn’t help think of the Breakfast Club every time he said Bender

@454Casull 2 года назад

"Safety first" while her hair is not tied or tucked back. lol

@jh1982a 2 года назад

great video...

@Emtbtoday 7 месяцев назад

A drill circle cutter to cut a titanium chainstay how Backyard DIY eh love it lol

@JesucristodivinoyjustoJuez 8 месяцев назад

Cuánto cuesta una bicicleta mtb montaña rodada 29 para México de titanio??

@roblucchetti2993 2 года назад

"Squishing machine" - Thats a technical term folks. Don't get scared 🙂

@Dyaizer 2 года назад

It would be grate, if they allow to show finishworks

@CyclingSundays Месяц назад

the cleaning part was a good addition. It shows discipline, hierarchy and ambition. The time waster was her fear of stamping, I disliked that part

@nrhalo 2 года назад

I wonder whey they have a Finnish flag...? "This is the finish department."

@mjokffsgfjs 2 года назад

Manon's pants mysteriously lengthened when she went inside the workshop.

@ck23j 2 года назад

Great.

@Metal-Possum 2 года назад

They all seem like cool people.

@a1white 2 года назад

I ride steel, but I’d love to own a titanium bike one day. White jeans in a bike workshop though? Brave move!

@stinkybeam 2 года назад

they have dogs in the shop!! I love it, I want to work there

@pauljefferies9087 2 года назад

Uhhh, I was about to say, “hey, safety glasses….”.

@masterexploder6802 Год назад

3:32 I found it appropriate for them to hang a Finnish flag in the finish department.

@raff5604 2 года назад

The amount of ads is getting absolutely ridiculous.

@a1white 2 года назад

Must have been about a dozen ads in this video (which is actually also labelled as an ad). Not sure if GCN have any control over this, but it made this film a bit unwatchable

@paolosupino 2 года назад

a whole book of bike recipes... 😀

@fpeter01 11 месяцев назад

22:30 This guy wouldn't survive long in the zombie apocalypse.

@ishraq_6251 2 года назад

She looks a lot like Angela White with those glasses on. 😅

@jamesbland8919 2 года назад

You missed out on the title. It should have been "Manon makes Moots, fails at 5"

@dba1222 2 года назад

Anyone see the sign at 14:49 that says "One Less eBike" lmao. So tribal

@a1white 2 года назад

Haha oh lordy 😅

@compassionsix 2 года назад

Love the video.

@markweisgram155 2 года назад

Wonderful video, amazing insight and very well presented. A lot of work goes into a Ti frame.

@ericdixon2898 2 года назад

What good is the serial number if it can be ground off??

@denniswilliams3934 2 года назад

Stamped not etched. Stamped usually leave a negative raised profile on the back. However nothing is fool proof when it comes to criminal intent.

@simonm1447 2 года назад

A stamped serial number changes the material under the surface too. You can make it visible again with special X ray even if the number is removed from the surface

@andrew097 5 месяцев назад

Do they ever make titanium bikes with tubes and lugs

@mogsijavier3681 2 года назад

Love that they have dogs in the workplace!

@BerudPL 2 года назад

that was fun episode

@otheremail123 2 года назад

Great video!

@EarthSurferUSA 2 года назад

I used to work for Nuke Proof making Ti Mt. bikes in Michigan in 94-95. I am the guy who got the hubs to stop breaking, and designed the "Atom Bomb" hub for suspension forks. But that is a Moot point today.

@jerseybarrier64 2 года назад

Bid kudos to @Mootscycles for opening up their facility in the way they did in this video. Manon is just a fabulous presenter and helps make you feel like you are right their along side her. Great to see such awesome employees building these beautiful frames. Rossi just looks like a happy, enthusiastic Moots team member and definitely puts the company’s future in great hands.

@fabianvzwol1 2 года назад

Seems like an office dog is obligatory at MOOTS!

@johnnyboy3357 2 года назад

Checking if anyone carries the infamous C or M in the workplace

@charliedillon1400 2 года назад

Colorado state law.

@BixbyConsequence 2 года назад

Any shop that lets their workers bring dogs and bottles of hot sauce is doing it right.

@janeblogs324 2 года назад

2:24 you realise this dog will go blind being exposed to a tig welder all day right? Even if you can see the flash bouncing off a wall you're being hit with UV. Workshops are meant to have plastic screens around all welding bays. These workers are Welding sleeveless too. This is a horrible promotional video (unless this is a 3rd world factory)

@BixbyConsequence 2 года назад

@@janeblogs324 I realize these folks probably know more about welding than you do.

@janeblogs324 2 года назад

@@BixbyConsequence you can know how to weld without knowing anything about safety or consequences. They aren't mutually exclusive

@ff2e 2 года назад

That's what I thought too watching them weld sleeveless and then the dog shows up. I've never worked in a factory that lets you weld all day sleeveless it's like gaurenteed skin cancer for no reason. Plus it's destroying their tattoos. The dogs don't know not to look at an arc either. Wonder how many times the dogs have been flash burned from looking.

@junktionfet 2 года назад

This was awesome! It is so cool to see a company like Moots, creating almost everything right there in house. I'm glad we got a chance to see this insight. Thanks Manon!

@privateinvestinsights 2 года назад

Uupí uo i

@privateinvestinsights 2 года назад

@blackjackpinoko 11 месяцев назад

Moots is now selling a Chinese/Taiwan sourced bike. Some bean counters sold out their soul.

@mrhankbotful 2 года назад

Almost ordered a Moots after my last gravel bike died in a crash with a Jeep in January. The 7 month lead times and $10k price tag pushed me a different direction, and I built my own up with a Ti Kinesis frame and was back riding in about a month. I feel like Moots is an amazing brand making amazing bikes, but it's so eye wateringly expensive I'm not sure I should ever really buy one. The fear of scratching, dropping, or damaging the frame would make it hard to ride it without that constantly in the back of my mind.

@prestachuck2867 2 года назад

Good luck scratching or otherwise damaging one of those frames without the help of an automobile.

@mrhankbotful 2 года назад

@@prestachuck2867 titanium isn't magical. It gets abraided about as easy as steel, and concrete is capable of scratching it just fine if it hits the deck. My first Ti frame I bought at a bike swap. It had a repaired chainstay that had been abraided through when riding in mud. The rewelded chainstay survived everything I threw at it, including the Jeep that hit me. The top tube and down tube were torn off the head tube, but the weld in the chainstay was fine.

@SuperNeilB 2 года назад

My titanium frame gets scratched in the gentle crashes I have had but a quick rub with a scotch pad brings back the shine.....try that with a painted bike!

@mrhankbotful 2 года назад

@@SuperNeilB I agree, most small stuff can be polished out, and the lack of rust potential is one of my favorite parts about Ti bikes.

@Stefano_Rodriguez 2 года назад

@@prestachuck2867 Who informed you that titanium cannot be scratched or hard to damage? It is EASILY scratched.

@whirving 2 года назад

For those who haven't dealt with or know about fixture making for bicycle tube cutting jigs, especially for curved tubes, they are difficult to make and make useable for precise curve indexing. That is, so that the curves end up on the plane they need to be in for accurate cutting and length. Those jigs were elegant, hats off to their setup people. I've worked in two different bicycle production lines in the US and this was glorious. Also, Mannon was just a great presenter, great video. She did well with the serial number die stamping, it's an acquired skill for most people, and not an easy one.

@thomasbrooks2549 2 года назад

Mannon back in the USA 🇺🇸 so cool 😎 reviewing a USA bicycle company. CGN needs to give Mannon more minutes for shows. Last weekend JULY 2023 trek 100 charity ride for childhood cancer Waterloo Wisconsin then tour trek headquarters suggestion for a future Mannon segment 😀

@fookie-fone 2 года назад

What a timely episode! I just got my Vamoots RCS recently and am absolutely over the moon about it. It took 8 months from fit to finish (literally) and I can’t stop staring at it each time I pass by it in the garage. This is my second MOOTS and will certainly not be my last. I definitely need to visit Steamboat to see Brent and his team work their magic on these wonderful pieces of rideable artwork. Cheers, Manon! I loved this video!! Look for my Bike Vault submission of my new RCS soon!!

@ridealoha2717 2 года назад

Routt County was named after John Long Routt in 1877. While often confused with the pronunciation of the word Route as either 'root' or 'rout', it's actually not related. That said, their are amazing routes that wind all over Routt County that are pure fun to ride! 🚲

@idiotru12 2 года назад

Thank you for explaining that one because after this video I thought 'Route' was spelt that way in America and was very surprised!

@4lumi 2 года назад

I thought that titanium should be welded in an atmosphere without oxygen, using special tools, is this correct?

@bengt_axle 2 года назад

They (supposedly) put a flow of argon gas inside the tubing to displace the oxygen. Some other Ti frame manufacturers like Nevi use an airtight tent in which the entire welding is done in an oxygen free environment.

@ff2e 2 года назад

I didn't see any back purging setup during the tacking process which should have been in place. Maybe they run the back purge gas in a location that isn't easy to see on camera.

@davidide1525 2 года назад

Thanks Manon ! I’ve been riding a Moots road bike for 10 years and just put Campy 12 speed mech. with Bora wto tl wheelset. I get nice comments on my “new” bike .

@ulifluhme 2 года назад

I ride a 2007 extralight with C12 and Boras - pics please!

@davidide1525 2 года назад

@@ulifluhme sorry not sure how to send pictures here. I will upload the latest to GCN+Bike Vault. Cheers !

@ulifluhme 2 года назад

@@davidide1525 links work but no worries

@SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 года назад

4:38 the dog realises there's a recording and quickly hides away 🤣

@raitshots Год назад

Titaniun matreal very good. Hard matreal very cold temperatue Artica. Good heavy upload. Weld Tig or Mig +3000 temperature But real Titaniun matreal cheap. Good video 😎👍Light material

@ChabbaChabba 2 года назад

Manon is the best! Authoritative, curious, and fun 👍

@nickpatten5263 2 года назад

What an interesting video. Thanks Manon and Moots. Loved the dog friendly workplace too.

@rule3036 2 года назад

The finish dept had the Finnish flag🇫🇮👍😁

@calderfa 2 года назад

Awesome video! We need more like this one. It's great to see the whole process, makes you appreciate what you are riding that much more.

@rah4981 2 года назад

Next do a vist to Litespeed titanium bike factory.

@MrDazP1adv3ntures 2 года назад

That was a proper engineering workshop and them guys will be pretty talented for sure. A very interesting production GCN, thankyou ....

@scottsutoob 2 года назад

Routt isn’t a odd American spelling of route. John Long Routt was the first governor of Colorado

@ronnakatani1503 2 года назад

I loved watching the video. I own a 2013 Vamoots CR, that we had built up with a few minor adjustments. I love the bike. I wanted a bike that rode a little "softer" than a lot of the stiff racing bikes that were being built. With the components we used on the bikes and the great titanium frame, it has a ride I that is great for me. Titanium bikes are great since you don't have to worry about it rusting, and you automatically become a member of the titanium frame club. Thanks for the video and Thanks @MOOTCYCLES.

@paulgush 2 года назад

Nice video. Could have been even better if they'd gone into the special measures they have to take to weld titanium. Tricky to weld without oxidizing it, as far as I know

@Patrick94GSR 2 года назад

I believe you have to backpurge the inside of the tubes with argon gas or something like that. John at LHT Performance in Florida (Honda tuner) does a ton of Ti stuff for cars. Custom intakes, turbo charge pipes, exhaust and the like.

@bensharpe2013 2 года назад

Very interesting film. Great to know how a Titanium bike is made for me personally as i' m thinking about one as my next bike. Moots look like a great place to work 🙂

@_J.F_ 2 года назад

The finish department and the Finnish flag wasn't lost on me 🤣

@Erik-rc7iy 4 месяца назад

Great video! Can you go to Litespeed and do a tour?!

@MrLuigi-oi7gm 2 года назад

Watching titanium frame parts survive the "torture" of being bent and squashed into shape helps me understand one excellent reason why there is a devoted following of titanium bike riders. These bikes will survive conditions and crashes that would destroy a carbon bike. As an American, it's also nice to see this level of craftspersonship alive and well at Moots. Thanks for the awesome video.

@WowRixter 2 года назад

Nice to see a US made bike. I had a Ti bike made by another Colorado builder. I didn't see how it was built, but this gives me a good idea

@kojoydesu4107 2 года назад

a friend told me a story about Titanium Bike, One day an Old man, a cyclist was got into traffic accident with a City Bus, The Bus squash those Bike, all component are destroyed, but the Frame Unscathed. it even lifted the Bus several cm. People in the Old days have the name for Titanium, Mithril. now I know why

@MrLuigi-oi7gm 2 года назад

@@kojoydesu4107 ❤️

@WowRixter 2 года назад

@@kojoydesu4107 Thats a good/comforting story

@kojoydesu4107 2 года назад

@@WowRixter the man survive thankfully, he said its all his fault, he did not see the bus and ensure the Driver that its okay..

@miseyrides 2 года назад

I wish that they would have talk about the history of Moots. The founder of Moots and his master welder, both no longer part of Moots, made/make great bikes there in Steamboat Springs as well. I'm not saying anything bad about Moots, but its always good to know the history. Moots are great bikes.

@ElmerShox 2 года назад

the amazing progress in making the Titanium frame!! love this Material! 3bikessss is a must!! Thanks MOOTS for showing the Process

@richchilds8173 Год назад

The young man helping Manon do the chainstays was great! Rossi, great job, you didn't seem nervous on camera, and you have great presentation and comedic delivery.