Maybe the early release of pgr is f2p friendly, but the current is not. Of course it's still playable as f2ps but there's more efforts to do than before. We are now in the golden era.
And in which sense are there more efforts to do? The gameplay loop didn't change and you can still get every new character completely F2P - without more effort.
how is it not f2p friendly now? you can get more than enough to pull every character not to mention like the 10 s rank selectors you get from start to qu's s frame
I have been F2P for over 1 year in PGR. This was possible by doing all the grinds in the game, like Daily, Weekly and Patch Events. Studying the characters and knowing which you can skip and compensate with other future characters also helps to have a constant amount of Black Cards. Example: Skip Bianca Veritas > Offset with > Vera Garnet The A Ranks are wonderful, especially the Supports that will still be used for a long time. A Rank Attackers and Tankers, on the other hand, can be used temporarily until you get the S ranks. Anyway, being F2P in PGR is possible, but it will take you a few months to get your teams and a constant high amount of Grind.
I live for the grind brother, really satisfying when I watch all my builds come together over time because that’s the main purpose of a game like this imo
Yeah, it will take many many many months. For me its 6 months in to get 3 basic teams, but this is with the two events that gave free s characters, and also making use of double beginner banners. For others perhaps a year. Thus, it's not right to say that PGR is very f2p friendly, it's 100% not. 3 basic teams are a requirement to tackle PPC, and also in like 2 other modes. Cant do much with 1 or 2 teams in this game, so if you are a f2p player, take off days in events that aren't rewarding and come back in those that are. That's the best way to have fun without lifeless grinding for f2p player in this game.
@@HSGG_ i think the way people say that pgr is 100% f2p is that, at least for me the game really doesnt feel that youre need to play always and doesnt feel like a pain if you dont do something, like in other gachas, you dont really feel this pressure
As a old geezer day-1 release player i'm so proud & happy watching new players playing & joining the PGR community, because this game is so underrated, some people didn't even know this game exist because PGR doesn't do advertisements a lot which is it's their good value. And for some reasons the contents in the game is enough to keep players playing this game because 1) The difficulty is fair "Hard" and the sense of progression feels satisfying. 2) The story is a masterpiece novel-style, in the early story stages, it's kinda boring for some people, but it's full of foreshadowing and all of them really connects in the future, and if you see "Health Reminder" before logging in, that thing is there for a "reason" IF you're the type of that person who have Health Conditions. The story gives you "Depression" rather than "Sad" feelings because some people can whitstand the Sad feelings but can't bear Depression, it's in another level. 3) The combat system is deep, like really deep. Your's understanding of the mechanics will make you stronger. 4) The game design is clever, with the combinations of human in cyborg arms / legs, military device, drip techwear, mecha, you name it. 5) The currency is farmable, the S class gacha has 60 pity, 100% drop chance (very f2p), with character selector to pick. The lowest drop in here is 100% WITH 70% rng in some banner, if you didnt got the S class from your selector, you wil still get a random S class since the pity drop is 100%. 6) Lot of challenges will make you enjoy some gaming sessions of a few hours just to beat the game modes you decided to focus on. 7) Fighting boss in this game is like playing Dark Souls but in fast paced anime style and its very challenging. 8) I'd say this game have the "Great Soundtrack" genre, some opera singers reacted to this game OST and interested then started playing this game and becomes veterans, i'm not a music expert but what i learn from the opera singers analysis, this game OST have some historical references about opera singer, it has build-up emotions & story throughout the game patches, every OST has their own uniqueness to express on what situation you're in, also this game OST is a banger.
Player since February of this year here- I used to play Azur lane for over 4 years and Genshin for over 2 and I will say this game just has been an absolute blast, and now since PC launch came out I have been trying to push hard content even further. I love how every character feels completely unique compared to something like Genshin, not to mention the generosity of the devs for handing out selectors and literal free units on some patches. Honestly its amazing how in this game the only luxurity of being a while is just pushing leaderboards.
Great video. im playing since 7 days now and its aether gazer that got me into this game! was able to get my dark team ready (SS vera rozen, S, No. 21 and Luna with selector) i did try a multi on the weapon banner and got her weapon TWICE in a multi!!! I know that Star rail gacha is trash, but i enjoy the story and PGR is really great to play, while i wait for new content on HSR ;D I really hope Wuthering Waves will addapt the same pity system as in PGR because im looking forward to this game!
SS rozen in 7 days?? Same as you, I also came back to PGR after playing aether gazer. I am working on getting to lvl 40 so I can start doiung the missions to get the selector.
@@zerenityzerene4410 yes in 7 days^^ got her multiple times in standart banner which did make it possible. thanks to the selector in which i got luna, i could skip astral so did go for more vera dupes^^
@@ytshinichi9944 Ahh, I got her and XXI with the first set of blue cards the game gives out. I really want Luna, astral is not really my style. Maybe I should go for more vera, since she would be a good support.
Though I agree that skill does matter a whole lot more in pgr than most other gachas, there's no way you're getting into top 8 or even 100 in ppc as f2p. Even if someone claims they did, they definitely just got some insane luck getting 6* weapons constantly at low pity, which is not what the average player will be getting, making that f2p argument kinda moot. What probably happened in the video where you were saying you saw an f2p being in top 8 was that you checked the ppc ranking many days before the final day of the week, in which case any player with decently built constructs and with decent skill can just rush ppc the minute dailies reset and get into top ranks, but ultimately will fall off at the end of the week into the 1-5% ranking. Also I would like to note that just having a maximum of SS rank for most if not all of an account's base S rank roster should not be an indication that the account is f2p. What truly dictates the strength of constructs once past the SS rank mark is weapon resonances, in which you can only get a lot of if you spend money, or get extremely lucky as mentioned above. The gap between whales and f2p is in fact very big, assuming that both demographics play at the same skill level. However, the game is still very much enjoyable as f2p as long as you know the limits of what your account can achieve and not aim for impossible goals.
Changyu is one of the best solo boss character like alpha, wanshi etc bcz of his kits. Sometimes people doesnt care about dmg/competition like me, im having fun solo boss fight like rexlent, blanc, moteyaba etc did. Even though there are more popular game out there, they just cant give me this kind of excitement. That why i hope WW would give me similar feeling when i play it, their current combat design doesnt stick to my heart that much as they did to PGR(hopefully they rework the combat a bit).
I had a similar experience bro , I installed the game at launch gave it like two weeks(lol) but tbh I didn't really get INTO IT just casually played it. FastFWR I came back to the game like a month or 2 ago and I'm having a mega blast as a f2p and slowly but surely polishing my skills/understanding of the game
Thanks for the PGR content. This game is awesome and deserve more players. May I just add: limited characters will be included on the standard pool after their debut (idk how many patches after their banner debut). I was spooked by S Vera when I hit pity on standard.
I started this game as F2P around Veritas's patch and I was able to stay in the highest division of warzone and maintain it fairly consistently. Though one day I just craved and whaled on nier patch and told myself I'm supporting the devs as an excuse to whale even harder. I regret nothing.
As you said, every character has his purpose and no character is useless per se. In some content, you literally need to use every unit you have (Babel tower) and some event content (or the guild challenges) require you to use a specific character, which sometimes happens to be an A-Rank, a weaker character than the S Rank he/she is competing against. Great and informative video, appreciate the content you create for this game!
Btw you can get to level 40 in 24 hours to do event stages if you play the daily reset correctly. The key is to do the Mentor missions as that would boost your account like crazy. For the quests prioritize the warzone and serum usage since the warzone trick still works. Go in stage 1 or 2 while you haven't cleared them and die the game would count that as a completed run so you can do it again until you reach 12 runs.
Just the option to choose which A rank to pull for is such an insanely nice feature, but with Genshin's success every single gacha game now simply copies Genshin's gacha, the 50/50 AND the high pity. Genshin honestly ruined gacha games. The quality of the games gets better but the scummy practices got normalized to an insane degree.
Most characters have their own purposes yes, simple thing is Guild Challenge, Babel or Norman. They are useful. You'll get better score on Low Viral Zone in Guild Challenge if you have better A rank than their offers (Trial Cons)
This game is so much more enjoyable than the other games just purely because of the fact that I can absolutely destroy a wallet warrior if I’ve practiced more than said wallet warrior
I was just so happy when I wanted Pulao wiht my 1 ten pull I was sad, watched a guide on her and heard the guide maker say uns only take 1 ten pull, screamed went back to PGR got her then was happy, I enjoy the game mainly because I don't want everyone so being f2p is easy and I don't feel the need to spend money except for that lee hyperreal skin he's so cute in his summer outfit but thats in like months so, but for people who want everyone I can see how hard it could be
if you unlock selena capuchino with the battle pass you can use her PPC shards to SS her and the shards on the recitativo de fantasia stage for 50 shard, IDK if that are enought for SSS but that is the option
Same here, I'm making Selena Cap SSS rank, just need some more until i have her at sss. I didn't spend any money tho, just pulled 1 copy then farmed the event , now just getting shards from voucher 😂
I regret quitting pgr for 4-5 months just before nanami's patch until i found out 2nd gen attackers will be so flashy. I returned and never missed a single day since then. I had to skip hyperreal since i was short of bc 😢 truly, this game is so good.
Brother, I took a break before the gen 2's, and I regret that decision because that break lasted till yesterday🤣 gonna get crimson weave and cope the other teams till I get hyperreal on a normal banner, and the physical attribute bow chick for free like this December🥲
I make the comparison that it is the "Anime Souls-like" game. I'll admit Dark Souls and by extension the other fromsoft games have more difficult combat, but they also aren't being played on mobile for the longest time and only recently PC😅 I THINK on mobile the combat is harder simply because FAT FINGERING and LACK OF VISUAL SPACE😵
Things like Babel can actually be harder, but that is self-inflicted i.e. you choose how hard you want it to be. Souls games are notorious because you are gated behind a set difficulty, which is already harder than what most players are used to.
idk what happen, many people left the game after a month of release.. same as me But just came back like 2 week ago... 1-because of PC client release 2-Free SSR event Yeah, maybe because the game kinda frustrating to play in emulator because of ping Maybe i just suck at dodge LOL But yeah, now the game kinda dope and i enjoy play it again. Just waiting for that lighning Alpha...well 2024 LMAO
Honestly the weapons too! You can just farm 5★ on Coop and resonate 6★ by doing Norman, and unlike Genshin that you need to get the exact same weapon to refine that weapon, here you can resonate it just by being in the same rarity, as long as its 5★ or 6★. Don't forget the gachable skins! Lucia's skin, Alpha's skin, Liv's skin are all top tier and you can get them for free if you grinded enough BC (10k BC to be exact). Also some skins are grindable, the dorms provide those green cards and some events that has skins as rewards. I remember that video where they played PGR without pulling a single character and their account is still top tier! It's all about dedication and patience. Edit: don't forget their anniversary rewards, like in Nanami's patch you can grind to get a free S- Selector. In the next 2.5 anniversary they'll be giving away another S character selector plus S weapon selector.
I would love to add that if you subscribe to their BC like Welkins, if you missed a day not claiming the 100 or 90 BC, they will instead add another day so you'd be able to claim all BC unlike Welkins that if you missed a day, that's it you won't get it anymore.
even as f2p you can clear any challenges easily to get all rewards available, probably hardest one is the "bragging rights" from babel tower (best reward btw 😂)...
Honkai impact 3rd also have 100% garentie but it a 100 pulls but usually u get way more crystals so it evens out, also u have more luck than pgr usually 70 pulls or less is the average
Hey man! Started pgr few weeks ago and your videos ar clear and helpful. I got the s rank selector. Should I choose plume or luna? And can I replace luna with dark Watanabe untill next selector comes out? I have s kamui,lee and mech nanami. Tnx on advance
100% get Luna, plume won't have the performance without more S rank teammates that the full dark team would have, especially given you have Kamui Tenebrion already!
F*ck genshin man. I'm trying to get the new 4 star kirara and after 60 pulls nothing just a bunch of characters that I already have at c6. I honestly don't know how pgr earns money on how f2p it is, but then again games like this deserve to be supported and I'm willing to do so
Players wanna SSS+ their characters and max reso weapons ig. Also skins r pretty pricey at like 25£ ish. Pgr u can select any A rank (in Genshin terms a 4* ig) and put it on 80% rate up which is sm better.
@@aviakali6715 yeah it really pisses me off how bad genshin banner system is. Especially that the only permanent content they are adding in the game aside for new regions are the playable characters, like wtf I'm after a 4 star and I can't even get it meanwhile in pgr just choose the A rank on the banner do a 10 pull and there you have it same goes for the weapons banner
I’m not f2p or a whale. I’m probably a sea lion. I’ve spent about $250 since I started 3 months ago. Now that I basically have a good enough variety of elemental teams, i could easily go the rest of my life without spending another penny. And the only reason I spent money is because I wanted the meta S ranks, but you could easily thrive on A ranks without spending anything.
For sure! Personally, I spend ~$50 a month now just so that I can get everything I'd want, new S ranks & their sigs & cubs, because I enjoy the gameplay and how fun it is, and I like supporting the company for making something so long lasting, that I regret dropping when I was younger. But it's still SO doable as a F2P, I just want a bit more... Fun with it yk? I mean, it's not like how Genshin Impact has some char's that need SEVEN COPIES to unlock the "full" gameplay *looking at you kazuha*
i dont know, i think when this was new, i think i left the game at level 41..... then i heard it has PC, but after i saw again my account.... i feel kinda powerless.... i left with the first S character that i got, that twin Twirly hair with bazooka thiny, an dwas thinking she's strong cause of her moves... and now since i left that time and now login (and again... didnt touch again since .... i dont know... scared? bored?.... or just dont know... overwhelmed maybe since many things already happened in the past year or years..... and now im handling Aether Gazer, yeah. ...many days already handled that game, some say its a "soft" version of PGR, kinda true..... so .... i dont know... gonna try again but this time a fresh account maybe?, im just like become a beginner again on this since many patches and such already in this game (maybe) lel..... or just scared... after all i watched those skillful players, uber dodges or parries im seeing.... and im gonna make sure... if im really gonna play this long time or not.... or else maybe im just wasting my time malding on the way and might not enjoying it.... especially im not good at dodges, even in Aether Gazer, im still suck at dodging lols (not only that games especially other games, and yes, i play Genshin until now, day 1 player, and the new HSR)..... but will see.....
"Like 300, are you fucking kidding me?" - *Stares pointedly at Arknights Limited Banners pre-recent-update. I don't know what you're talking about... hahaha... what sick, twisted monster would do that? *stars at Studio HG pointedly*. Or even worse.. what game dev would make a banner HAVE NO HARD PITY AT ALL. *stares at Shift Up angrily.* No dev would be that horrible right...? Right?
This may be a newbie question but you mention in events doing the odd number stage to get the currency, why is that? Why not the furthest level possible instead ?
You can do either odd or even stage per week. Even stage gives less resource but RNG memories. Odd stages give only resources but more. Resources can be spent to get literally anything you need to build characters, including selecting the exact memories you need. Only do odd stages👍
@CashySwanson wow thanks so much for that tip I had been spamming the even stage haha And jeez you answered quick, I haven't even finished the video yet LOL Thanks for the great content man, been really enjoying the ride playing the game for the past week and a half ! Cheers
Just wait for the anniversary in July, We will get anniversary banners that will have a 100% guarantee for any character that was released before that you can choose. Pity is still 60 but it's better than pulling for a 70% when their rotation comes again on fate banners.
@@huckleberry38-pn4wo you can keep on doing it. That's why if you can you can literally wait until anniversary pull whatever you want on the pool and switch whenever you want. Whales use this to max out their characters and F2P's use this to fill out their roster in case they have surplus. I am not sure about the pity though iirc it carries over to the next anniversary banner not the next rate up banner.
the only thing i hate in this game are serum/energy. the gameplay with the whole energy you get is like 15min gameplay? I hate that soooo much. ps: and why tf story missions costs sooo much serum?!?!?
I don't FULLY disagree. Again, all good characters are available for free, but we are starting to get to the point where weapons are becoming... Well... A LOT nicer to have than before for later content. Still one of the best out there though, but it's becoming harder. Wuthering Waves though👀
I disagree that PGR is _so_ F2P. Been talking with a lot of people on main discord and many of them discuss characters being useless until you SS or even SSS+ them (with them being S as base rank). Some units don't even go online unless you have their sig along with SSS'ing them, so it's only F2P in the sense that you can clear all story content, but that's not even the main focus of the game. I personally think it's a little disingenuous to say PGR is more F2P than a game like Genshin because if the argument for being F2P is being able to clear story, then Genshin takes the cake. In Genshin, I don't think there's a single meta 5-star unit that requires duplicates to go online. They're either used in teams or they're not, and you can just skip if you don't like/need them. A lot of 4-stars do require constellations, but all the best ones (the Chinese ones, what a surprise) are all on the wish exchange, so they're easy to collect over time. You don't even need meta teams to finish the story because the game is scaled to your world level (which can be lowered if you're a giga casual) and isn't locked behind BP, which I find myself lacking sometimes in PGR. It can be made up with "JUST DODGE", but eventually, you reach a DPS check and will need to level. A lot of the focus for PGR is also on the events and challenge modes, which revolve around you having the strongest units in a meta team in order to reap the highest rewards. That's incredibly P2W, and not so much F2P. Now, if the argument that PGR is a better waifu collector, then sure, it's probably the best, but I don't think that should be the metric for what's considered F2P vs P2W. I do think the game is enjoyable as a F2P player, but it's a bit delusional to think that, _unless you've been playing since launch_ , you're gonna be able to keep up in ranking. Genshin, on the other hand, has zero PvP/ranking, so while you can whale and get bigger numbers for impressive speedruns to post on youtube, none of it matters as that's not really the focus of the game. As a character collector, it does leave a bit to be desired, unless you're a day 1 player--you'd pretty much have at least one copy of every units except a handful because a lot of the early banners got reruns fairly quickly in 1.0 to 2.0, assuming you won 50/50 half the time. Anyway, I'm getting off topic. You can start Genshin at any time and be able to entirely clear all content except for Abyss, which is almost negligible. Expanding on this, another big difference between the games is the use of stamina for story content. Hate that shit, don't want it. I shouldn't be forced to choose to optimize my stamina for limited event rewards or playing the game for the story. It becomes increasingly difficult to clear all the story content when you're inundated by several events every patch and have to choose between using all your stamina to farm memories or progressing story, especially as a new player. I know you've mentioned not to feel like you have to rush story content, but I do want to enjoy the story--I just don't want to miss out on important resources. This is exasperated with the fact that you also need stamina for farm for character shards. Yes, you can rank up all the A and B rank units, but 60 stamina a day for only 2 shards? For how many characters? And how many shards do you need to SSS them? You would need 1/4th of your daily stamina and 2 months of farming just for ONE character to rank them from S to SSS, assuming you don't get dupes in the gacha. If it didn't cost stamina and instead a limited amount of total runs across all farmable A-rank characters, you could argue it's a good system. I don't know. Maybe all of this is fine if you're a day 1 player, but if we're comparing accessibility, Genshin is much better for casuals and F2P, apart from collecting them waifus and husbandos as a late starter. With regards to Star Rail daily farm, I don't think it's that much of a hassle at all. You get 240 stamina daily, you dump all of it into XP books, and call it a day. Yeah, it's all "manual" farming, or waiting, if you auto play it, but PGR has so many more modes that you have to also manually do. Most of it is easy enough, but timewise, it takes much longer. If it was just dailies and weeklies, the games maybe even out with Simulated Universe in Star Rail taking up a chunk of time, but honestly, stack up all the different modes in PGR, I think it's still more time consuming. You got PPC, WZ, Simulated Sieges, Norman Revival Plan, and just like--the absurd amount of event content you have to do. It's funny to even think of more free event content (especially the ones that don't even use stamina!) as a bad thing, but it does induce burnout if you're big on the FOMO.
No character is "useless", or "only useful at SS or higher". Those who say that are talking trying to place within the top 1000 ever in those game modes. I personally use Lee Palefire and he is SS, to great extent, but he is "Useless" until his Leap happens next patch (which I will be unlocking😋) The discord-ers are Meta slaves 100% and yes there is meta but it's like at most 50% variability (other than Gen 2 attackers coming soon) compared to games like Azur Lane which has easily 300% variability on the low end even between ships in the same purpose.
it's f2p in the sense that just by doing your dailies and weeklies, you can farm enough currency to pull for the new S-Rank characters. once you get those S-Ranks, you can farm Pain Cage for their shards until SS. it would take a while, but it's free. the main source of currency, Warzone and Pain Cage, you don't even have to score decent. just go in, die, save score, get currency. but of course if you want those skulls from PC to get your S-Ranks to SS, then you have to at least try your best. there's also barely any "meta" in PGR. the newer S-Ranks will obviously powercreep the older S-Rank in the same category, but it will take a while. the first physical S-Rank attacker Alpha, who was the first ever banner character from launch, will only be powercreeped on September this year. that's 2 years of being "meta" and some characters even took longer to be replaced. as for weapons, that's where the real gacha in the game is at 80/20. it's not necessary for the character to work, but it helps. FOMO is also almost non-existent. if you spend, you can ignore almost any event. they are so minimal they are there mostly for enjoyment, not necessarily rewards. well, you get a badge in Babel for bragging rights. the maximum rewards are also surface level, you barely have to mald to get them. seriously, try the game out to see for yourself. and if you want better info, you might as well ask in the subreddit.
@@dgsalvilla Yeah, I've been playing about a month. I mean--like I said, I do enjoy it so far as a F2P. I just think that for a game that holds ranking, players just naturally want to get to the top, and unless you've been here since the beginning (and emphasis on that), it's not as easy. Doable! Not as easy. Good to know that the events are skippable, though, other than some BC. They are a nightmare lmao. Good content, but so much time investment when you're spread thin on gacha. Initially, though, I only text walled bc the F2P comparison was made to Genshin, which I argued is F2P friendly for story enjoyers, if not a good waifu collector.
@@wetnoodlex and i only replied because the first thing you mentioned, the one you learned from discord, is one of the biggest misinformation spreading about PGR since launch. so yeah, you can expect some of the old-timers to be annoyed with that. story mission also got easier at some point because Kuro implemented an auto-resu feature during the boss fight making it impossible to fail. and ignore the BP, you can clear story missions with just half the BP requirement especially if you're using a base S-Rank character. but tbh, your main focus as a new player is always farming the event stages so you can buy mats to upgrade your roster. story missions are permanent and can always be done later, especially in-between patches. as for rankings, a lot more people don't care than you think, some whales/dolphins don't even care about ranking. it's more of players having a level of expectation according to their roster. sure, once in a while you get in a bracket where people don't care or are just bad so you get bumped. but expecting to do that often is a bit too much. last, because this is becoming another wall of text from me. isn't it normal that someone who jumps in late in a game, especially something that has been out for almost 2 years, gets inundated by stuff to do? all games do that. i'm pretty sure if i start playing Genshin now i would have the same complaint as you do, but i won't because i know that's normal. i pretty much felt that when i tried HI3rd a month before PGR launched.
I totally disagree. I've played and enjoyed Genshin and HSR as well and overall, PGR is more F2P on so many aspects. Even if we remove the mental gymnastics and focus on the objective sense of what an F2P game means. It primarily refers to a games monetization and PGR takes the cake in that aspect. A 100% rate at 60 for newly released characters is unbeatable even by a higher rate. An 80% at 30 for weapons. And more! Just take Genshin's still scammy epitomized path. I pulled thrice there and lost thrice. Also, so far on onky Selena Cappriccio and Karenina requires more than SS to compete against older units, which is funny cause cappriccio is free and you just need a pull. And I think it's dishonest to think that you need signature weapons to compete. These things only matters if your so competitive you want to belong to top 100 of entire players. Even Genshin gives characters with weapons a big boost. PGR by nature, like Genshin. Is a single player game. It's unfair to not consider that just because PGR has leader boards which genshin lacks.
You are NOT wrong, however you can realistically clear this game with the starter characters well enough to get full enjoyment if you are good enough cause there is a skill system in the combat, whereas AL is mostly normal Gacha with a small amount of optional manual play (I used to play it for years😋) Speaking of, I have a whole ass Google doc for it that I could probably make a guide video about it and post the document so thanks for bringing it up😁
with this monetization we know that Kuro game isnt greedy dev which i hope he keep it . This monetization quite same as PATH OF EXILE. From GGG, i know it different game but their monetization quite same except in POE u only pay for skin nothing else but this is gacha game. The similarities come from non greedy monetization and if it keep long it will end up making PGR2 just like POE 2 comingg soon.