As a music enthusiast, I find it really heartbreaking to see this trend going against Albums... like I Love it when an artist puts out an entire album and you listen to it start to finish and you can see the reason why they chose the trackless the way they did maybe the cover art or the music video or the main single all tie in together and create a cohesive listening experience..like a painting in a museum..u don't wanna see half of the Mona Lisa and say "Im good" no you wanna see the whole thing in relation to each other! That's why I love Sleep Token so much because they have been doing that but for their entire discography so far! Specially with Take Me Back to Eden, the whole album is one major experience and the songs have more impact when you know the context of everything. Fuck even just the Summoning or Take me Back to Eden as a song itself is an experience (that's why its fucking 8:20 mins long)... they almost fuse the idea behind what an album is into their singles and hope to cater towards both an audience and the algorithms...
Same !! I also listen through whole Albums and often some buried track number 6 or something is a real gem because its a bit more experimental or atypical. And you realise that they did not want this to be the first impression people have of the album but you are happy you discovered that nuance of their sound. Also, if bands wouldnt make albums, we wouldnt have amazing art like the new King Lizard and the gizzard wizard, which just needs that kind of room.
Absolutely agree. I love listening to entire albums. They have a certain energy to them, they're like an artgallery. You can listen to one piece alone or just listen to the entirety and create an own understanding to it. Also I collect both CD's and Vinyl and in today's age nobody makes single lp's so it sucks to not be able to get some music on analogue.
Sometimes I play singles, it gets me hyped. sometimes I play albums for the vibes, the trip, the experience as a whole. We're only humans and that's perfectly fine
I love albums. My playlist is full of albums, and if I start an album, I listen to it all the way through. I don't mind singles, and some singles are particularly awesome. But albums are my preference.
People saying they didn’t earn it naturally sort of is like saying Falling in Reverse didn’t grow naturally. Of course it’s natural, it’s just expedited because you have known people with followings in the group. Slaughter to Prevail would not be at the level they are today without Alex and his crazy following before that project really took off.
honestly this is true, but on darkos self titled album there were so many songs that went unnoticed and all of them hit so hard. I feel like no one had listened to The Last of Us from their self titled album.
Yeah that album is full of bangers but they get outshined by Praise the Sun. That song is diabolically good is beyond my comprehension considering how simple the songwriting is lol
People always complain about this, but good music gets discovered. Short songs, long songs, whatever. All their songs are bangers, that's why they're popular.
I think the best way to do it is releasing alot of singles but still making listening to the whole album worthwhile. Lorna Shore did it with Pain Remains, Mental Cruelty did it with Zwielicht. Both dropped alot of INSANE singles, but the "flow" of the full album made it worth listening to anyways.
I saw them live 2-3 years ago when they where about to break through. Didnt know anything about them and had not even heard of them before seeing them live. I knew INSTANTLY when I heard them that they were going to be big. They are INSANE live.
Crazy how Sleep Token can also find success doing a similar but opposite thing of putting an entire EP's worth of short tracks into one single track and then release 4 singles like that leading up to a full album release.
Sorry if I'm slow, but that first thing is confusing me. It they took an entire EP, how did it suddenly become a single instead of just still being the EP?
@@perlundgren7797 I think it might become clearer to you if you listen to one of their 7-8 minute tracks. Some of them do sound like 3 different songs or 3 versions of the same song combined into one track.
@@The5thColumn Oh, you meant like that. I just took your comment a bit too literally and thought one of their singles was some kind of rereleased version of an EP. 🙂
Your point about just writing a great song and releasing it and continuing on reminded me of how Bilmuri releases his stuff. I want him to hit 1 million 🙏🏻
I got to see them live in Stockholm supporting Architects and Spiritbox after Loathes tour bus was involved in a accident. They were great, and the dude in the rain jacket kept it on all through the performance.
Weird thing is I saw them as a headliner last year in Germany and they only had about 11,5 minutes of official music out. They have a lot of noises between there songs and played a new one if I remember correctly. People missed their set because they had to pee. Kidding. Best 20 minutes in a long time. Thrown owns
Ngl I was thinking boundaries would be “dominating” rn because of the hype I’ve seen around them but holy moly 1 mil is CRAZY for thrown they are sick too
I’m just now getting on the Boundaries bandwagon, and I completely get the hype; Boundaries fucking rips. Their newest album is so dark and introspective, and it all hits me in the same way as some of the best Counterparts material. God I hope they really pop off some day.
I think I tend to like singles from artists more than full albums because an artist puts all their creativity in to it. An album doesn't always carry that same weight of creativity and i struggle to listen to whole albums. Probably a lot due to consuming short format media like tiktok, but seeing a full creative outcome is always gonna be good
I got a thrash metal band called "Berserk Mode", now it has 10k mothly listeners on Spotify. My band consists of thrash songs combined with intros and outros related to video games, chiptunes, etc. These outros and intros are short songs, less than 2 min. Surprisingly these are the most listened songs of my band. With Nik explanation, now I understand why...
I found thrown by accident. And thought it was really fucking cool. I had no idea they had this following and ESPECIALLY didn't know Buster had anything to do with it.
Saw them live last summer on their tour in a very small venue in my town in Germany. The line-up (Half Me was also there) was just awesome und Throne just nailed their hole 30 minute set 😂
I personally like the experience of listening to albums. Spent most of March listening to albums in their entirety - Firewind's 'Stand United', Amaranthe's 'Manifest' and 'The Cataylist', Mr. Big's 'Lean into it', A7X's 'Nightmare', Orbit Culture's 'Descent'. Albums tend to have more of a long-lasting impact than standalone singles IMO.
2 things: 1. Found Thrown on your Playlist, and fuck yes, that shit is on repeat constantly. 2. Listening to a whole album to pass the work day is why I like putting together my own annual album playlist when you do the "Best Of" for the year. Put that shit on shuffle and let it rip.
As someone said in the Twitch chat: I miss albums that tell a story. Yes. I do as well. An album that tells of something arbitrary or in reference to something else from reality or, my personal favorite, a character progression of a band member or of a singular person the band knows. Either way, albums are for listeners and musicians.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s seeing rock on top, to what it is now is sad to me, but my daughter is 14 and i notice a lot of her friends are liking rock, and going back and listening to stuff i grew up with, with no influence from me so i have some hope.
Saw these guys supporting ABR on their UK shows. They were fucking good! Simple, no nonsense. Just pounding music and good moshing. It was a good night out!
That's why I try to check out the whole EP or Album of a band, if I like their sound. I checked out the complete discography of Orbit Culture in one night, cause I liked their music so much
I saw them live here in Sweden, a supeise support to spiritbox and Architects , Loath was in a accident so the cancelled… throen just got on the stage with no pre info , i was like fuck I know this band , took me 2-3 bangers snd then I remember hering them so msny times on spotify, had no ide they are Swedish , cool asf ! They dominated on stage also and made the disappointing fact I miss Loath less bad . Exiting to follow them and see where they gon💪💪🤘🤘
I have some things to say about this that no one cares about but here I go: I am of course an avid music enjoyer and albums are my main source of music consumption. Id rather listen to an album, than a playlist, especially if its a good one. Artists create albums for a reason and a lot of metal bands put so much work into them, making them, like others have stated in the comments here, an experience. Thats also why im a huge fan of concept albums that tell a story like "All Mighty Men", "Origine" or "Trinity". Secondly I am also a musician and Ive written singles an EP and an Album, (the latter two of which are yet to be released) and i wont release any singles for them. I want the listeners to get the album and enjoy it and pick out their favorite songs. If I release my favourites as singles first, some other songs might get lost. So i go against the industry standard. My goal is of course not the same as that of other musicians. I dont want to maximise income and live solely off of my music, its just a hobby and some times I feel like if more musicians focused on the craft of making good music and not conforming to any algorithms, theyd be happier. But idk, im just a young guy who does what he loves. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
I think it's also important to note that for a lot of bands - the driving force to create full albums and release them every few years is contract agreements with their labels. I'm sure more bands want to do what thrown is doing, but have other obligations that are stopping them. In today's world with music basically being "free" to listeners getting more listeners on as many platforms as possible is pretty much a must and whatever strategy best allows for that is the right strategy.
ERRAs latest releases are good examples of marketing strategy with this theory behind them. They released three singles with videos (separate singles on Spotify), then an EP where they also add a fourth single with video (all four singles combined as an EP on Spotify) and then they released the full album which has all the singles/the EP and more songs, just to cover all the bases; from people who just want banger singles to people who enjoy a good album. Discographies in Spotify for example are becoming hella messy, same song shows in several instances.
There are some very special albums that I will listen to all the way through. No time to bleed and the black crown by SS and the Chosen by EE are two that come to mind. I do agree not enough people will go through and listen to a whole album. Kinda miss the old days where I would go to best buy or fye on pay day and buy a whole bunch of cds.
I went to a show with Thrown a few weeks ago in Mesa, AZ and they absolutely killed it, and they weren't even the headliner, but the crowd LOVED them. Cell was meh, Mouth For War was good, Spite was great (the lead singer is kind of odd, but it was a great showing), and I had to leave as Bodysnatcher was setting up.
Was listening to the Johnny Booth Firsthand Accounts album and then Thrown came on after. Was immediately impressed and followed them. If you haven’t heard Johnny Booth, check them out!
@@sgefrascz8123 well they weren’t headlining and I wasn’t expecting a longer set from them anyway so my expectations were managed on that front… they also played an unreleased song so the set was a bit longer
Intronaut and Car Bomb are the two bands i HAVE to listen to the whole albums.... You're right, its hard to make a perfectly solid album to listen to the whole thing. Some bands though, just can't make a bad song enough to skip on the album.
They applied the underground hip hop formula to generating plays/likes to metal. Can't hate them for it, it's a smart move given the way we consume music now a days.
I dont follow Thrown on Spotify, have not liked any of their songs, nor ever clicked on any of their songs by choice, yet they sneak into every playlist and are typically the first random song that starts up after the song I actually wanted to listen to. The algorithm is scarily powerful.
It’s funny I have a couple of their songs on my workout list on Spotify and I didn’t even realize who they were, I just liked the songs hearing them on random. 😂
Have seen them live last saturday and they fucked. Was a sick show EDIT: regarding the 25 min set comment at the end. When I saw them they had a 25 min set. They played their whole discography, talked a bit in between songs and did one smaller pause with black out (around 45 sek iirc). Basically filled their slot with this completely
