I feel that many of the game's issues come down to its age. Whilst I've loved 1.0, from the frequent Dev blogs its been made clear that over its development, Blade and Sorcery became a tangled mess of programming. Considering this is warpfrog's one and only game, I'm completely satisfied with how it's been finished, and now with a massively upscaled team and with all the lessons they have learnt from Blade and Sorcery, I can't wait for what they have in store next.
Yeah it’s like bethesdas engine, it’s a 20 year old engine that has had so much stuff slapped on top of it to make it into a “Morden engine”, which does make it easy mod because everyone knows how to make stuff on it, but it’s extremely inefficient, so there doing the opposite of Bethesda instead of staying on the same game forever and letting it restrict them they can start fresh which will allow them to ma,e a better and more polished game.
The fact that it’s even finished is a grand by itself. Warpfrog really has done amazing work with free updates and a fairly low priced game. I’ve heard Most games like this never reach the finish at all.
So, I wanna put this out here. I think the primary reason the game ends so quickly (IE why you only need 6 ruins to get the ending) is because Baron and the team made a really big deal about a really big word: *replayability.* They really, really wanted you to run through the game with, for example, a mind and body build, beat the game, and then go "Okay, now for something different!" And then play through a second time with, say, a gravity and fire build. They made there be so much in the game, and such a short amount of time needed to be done with it, so that we'd keep playing, keep trying new things, and always find our own fun in the game, like we always did. The other, smaller reasons, are pretty simple. Number one, mods are going to keep this game alive for years to come, I can almost guarantee you. I mean, look at Skyrim. And the second reason is the simplest - Lore. Beating the game in 6 dungeons is NOT going to give you all the lore, or hell, it probably won't give you ANY truly significant lore unless you're reallllyyyyyy looking for it. After I beat the game, I was left with only a vague idea of what was going on in the world, and I truly wanted to play again, if not to feel the same thrill I did the first time when running through, learning more lore and unlocking new abilities I had never used before. All in all, I think the true value of the game isn't what the developers give us - it's what we give ourselves. If you don't have a purpose anymore when you beat the game, well, that's okay. Nobody said you had to play it. But if you still want to play, if your heart still yearns for the thrill of fighting Hector again, or exploring more ruins you maybe haven't seen, or hell, you just wanna log in to pet Baron's chicken. These are all purposes that we make for ourselves, and I think that's exactly where the game's longevity will come from. From here on out, it's what we make it. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
The chickens name is actually Johnathan, and it comes from a ongoing gag in a b&s RU-vidrs videos named “DLC” (downloadablecontent) He’s friends with the Baron and has interviewed the team multiple times
huff your copeium but i still think the game needs more end game things like elites or challenges like roguelites use. theres many varients and stuff that they could do for end game to keep it feeling alive
VR gaming is in an awkward stage right now. The very act of playing cool games in virtual reality is no longer special, but development teams still treat it as if it were. Imagine games like Witcher 3 but with absolutely no side content, no quests to do and a very brief main story. It would probably still be cool to play, but pretty shallow in comparison to what it is. VR gaming is in a stage where players are starting to see it as regular gaming, but developer teams treat it as something special in and of itself. The fact that Blade & Sorcery is adding a form of progression system is a big step in the right direction, and I predict that in the coming years, more and more development studios will add a lot of depth to their future titles, or at least more than what they are doing now.
second sentence said it 👏. your game is not the first ive played in VR, you cant keep me entertained with "ooo VR shit" forever. a good VR game still requires a good game underneath
im so upset that there isnt a final boss, they created this HUGE looming tower that is such a cool set piece. They gave you a new overpowered sword/staff and then its just nothing. WHY??? after 5 years???
Yeah it feels strangely anticlimactic… especially when they probably COULD’VE done a HUGE scaled up boss fight like we see with mods! (I’m not a game dev so I’m sure that’s harder to implement than it sounds but idk it seems like a lack of creativity imo)
@@Laz3rSkar i know that!! i just wish there was one final boss to take on to feel like i really accomplished something after learning all new skills, i have still been playing the game, im working towards getting every skill rn
I believe they said they're working on an update to the SDK to extend modding capabilities and the such, the game itself seems like it has a bit of a spaghetti code so I don't blame them for wanting to move on to future projects, I am very excited to see what comes next
When I saw the homing dagger in the trailer I was super excited for magic items we could find, but it was just a skill and to my knowledge there was only 1 magic item in the game. I feel like if you could search around and find magic items like one that would heal you for 10% of the damage you deal or 1 that increases your armor significantly, cool thematic items you could find that make you stronger in different ways inside of the delgarion dungeons would make us excited whenever we did something interesting or encourage us to explore these vast awesome places they made would make me so much more excited to play the dungeons even once I had beat the game
I'm a quest user, and I'm gonna wait patiently, because patience is key to power (and I'm gonna train my real life swordfighting skills in the meantime)
@@Hachiman01Honor, and Will, are key to Strength, we stand unbreaking, everlasting. If anything the wait just hypes up the game even more for us nomad players!
11:50 hello resident lore nerd, its actually the other way around, the bad ending(narratively) is where you get the sword. and one of the endings can technically be 2 narratively depending on your knowledge as a player of whats happening around you, either you dont know, or you do, and you pulling the sword and dying can either be noble, or ignorant.
@@RJesse15 there are two endings, one where you die and one where you get the sword, the one where you die can technically be split into 2 endings depending on YOUR reasons for pulling the sword, be it to gain new power, or knowing what will actually happen. To summarize, magic is a volatile energy within the world and the more it builds up the more dangerous it is, eventually it could blow the entire planet up. So the ancients created a cycle where every few thousand years they expel the world's magic into space, however they disguised it with a religious facade to keep people willing to sacrifice themselves for it, so if you knew this, then you'd be making a sort of noble sacrifice to maintain the world. If you didn't know this, then you're another sorcerer who died in the pursuit of power, unintentionally saving the world If you do the ending where you keep the sword and escape, you destroy the tower and thus basically dooming the planet with no way to rid itself of excess magic
well my solution is to unlock all the powers *before* the end of the game so you get that build up and feel more satisfied about the ending, but thats just what im gonna do
you can't unlock all the powers before the end of the game, you only do six dalgarian ruins before the end. you need like 15 to get all the powers i think
@@importedposter4152 well you don't have to use the portal im sure you could just run past it and get on with whatever you need to (do forgive me if im wrong i haven't been able to play the update
I do think having different bosses would be awesome. Different styles of golems that have to be fought with slightly different tactics. Perhaps have one that's like a bull, where in order to stun it and unshield the next set of crystals you need to bait it into charging at its own shield crystals (since these ones are extra large and can't be broken by simply bashing it. Though perhaps something like a t3 spell could also work so you don't lose the variety) Perhaps there's an aerial golem that spends most of its time out of melee range and you have to hit it with arrows, fireballs, thrown weapons, telespun weapons, or if you hop on it while it's stunned (or maybe when it swoops down so that you don't need to stun it to mount it) you can ride it and take it down with melee. You could also have one that's much smaller, only slightly larger than you, that's much more nimble and uses an ancient weapon (like the sword of naa or one of the other weapon variants I thought up). That way you get an early exposure to the sword and can swing it around, but you can't take it home with you or test it against opponents (unless you sped through the dungeon and left some alive). The golem could get knocked around while it's stunned, but after that you can't knock it down. Also, importantly, it bows to you at the start as opposed to roaring. It is a very skilled opponent that fights with precision and elegance, instead of brute strength. And while possible to do so otherwise (example, fireball) it is very difficult to defeat it with anything other than *better* skill (example, deflecting fireball back at you or even catching it with its own sorcery.) Perhaps it matches your play style, if you fight it with sorcery, it will fight you with sorcery. If you don't have a weapon, it embeds the sword into the ground (deep enough that you can't pull it out) and fights you with martial arts (definitely bring good arm protection) The main thing is that they are all beatable with different play styles so you aren't locked into a certain weapon choice. Most notably, they have to be beatable with just fists.
The end is just the beginning of something new. I look forward to whatever Leapfrog cook up in the future. I teared up a bit watching the updates in the credits. Seeing how the game evolved over the 5 years was such a beautiful way to send off the game during the credits.
My main issue with the Crystal Hunt mode is the lack of location variety. Throughout the entire game you visit the same dungeons all the way until the end of the game, with the only changes being the types of enemies found and the length of the dungeons. It would be cool if the game actually took you to different locations around the world with different themes for each, and even different kinds of bosses for each new area. Also probably increase the amount of map pieces you need to find so you don't fly through each location too quickly.
I totally agree! I almost made a point in this video about the lack of visual variety, especially when compared to a game like Dungeons of Eternity. I honestly think simply randomizing the color palette of enemy outposts or having different times of day would go a long way to help the levels not all feel so repetitive.
This really was so fun, and I'm glad I waited for it. I don't feel cheated about it that much. Also I accidentally found the money glitch in the first hour like everyone else LOL
I love the update I had already completed one character. it is a bit sad to see that this is the End update with no more major updates though, Although them saying they will create a new game with a similiar engine does give me a bit of hope. The vision I had for this game when I started playing in U8 was that this game could become the first/best mmorpg (which At the time Zenith the last city wasn't released + this game can be alot better then zenith) I still hope the next game is rpg based or atleast allowes to play with friends because that could be amazing.
Awesome video! i've been addicted to the blade and sorcery 1.0 update, and was waiting for someone to make a good video on it! ALSO HOW WAS THIS THE WAY I FOUND OUT YOU COULD STUFF ITEMS INTO YOUR CHEST IVE BEEN TAKING OUT THE INVENTORY BAUBLE EVERY TIME
I'm sad because I enjoyed every second of my experience of the 1.0 release, up until I killed my 6th Golem, got my ending, became severely dissapointed after expecting something more than.... that, and left the game feeling dissatisfied rather than fulfilled, because I knew that I only tried the first 3 cores and there were SO MANY MORE THINGS for me to discover, only to realize that now my entire purpose for playing this game has been fulfilled and there is none to keep me invested in playing it anymore, despite how impossibly fun and immersive it is. Its like you said. After the ending credits hit, you become saddeningly aware that you've become a "warrior without a cause", and the drive you've felt to explore and loot and buy and overcome everything up until now completely ceases. Like finishing the LOTR trilogy and watching all of the characters you're still so invested in either leave the lands of middle earth completely or grow old and die, leaving a gaping hole where excitement and drive used to be. It's one of the worst things to feel for any kind of gamer.
For the ending, I think in order to make it seem like you need all the powers, the door could have maybe five of those orbs instead representing each power, and each time you get a new power an orb will light up as the color of that power. Once you unlock the door and go to the tower, in order to open the tower, there should be five scanners that you have to put your hand on, each has the color of one of the powers. You can your hand in each scanner, showing the tower you have every power. The door opens and you have to fight the eye as a final boss and maybe even a film bigger, better hector the eye has been building to try and stop you. Then you do either the main or secret ending.
the whole point of the sword of naa is it's just bait for a strong sorcerer, the tower sacrifices a powerful sorcerer once every so often because otherwise the world ends due to that big star in the sky. more naa weapons just can't happen given the lore
Definitely agree about the ending of the game. I had just gotten my Lightning spell to Tier 2 but.. there's no point now with the game completed. Really hope someone makes a mod that extends the Crystal Hunt story, to give something a lot more satisfying. Also I was never able to get that damn sword. Like you I lost it and then freaked out thinking an enemy archer shot at me from behind (because of how quiet it was).
15:40 This is a cool idea but its a bit too repetitive, there are these weird planets and other objects in the sky the final ending could lead to a sneak peak to one of them.
True, but the same can be said for the sandbox. It’s still ultimately up to you to decide how to make it fun. Which can definitely be awesome when you have a new idea or mod to try out, but still inevitably gets old in my opinion.
I know vr games are pretty short and the dev team is small, but I wanted more from crystal hunt. Like there being more than one npc, quests for you to complete, factions that you can join, large scale battles, different bosses, but I guess that's not Blade & Sorcery.
I feel like removing survival mode from the arenas was a mistake. Going in without any equipment (or, if possible, spells) and fighting off waves of progressively more difficult enemies with your choice from three random weapons was great! It allows you to try new weapons and new play styles. If they made it so that more weapons could spawn, bows spawning with quivers and maybe even crystal cores spawning (allowing you to try new spells without having to go through 4 whole dungeons) survival could have been a great third mode for crystal hunt. I agree that the game cuts off short, but I don't think putting it off till the *very* end of the sandbox is the right decision. I think putting the little round holes where you have to "imbue" them with the three spell types on the door (or perhaps on the teleporter) would have been a better way to do things. It would give you a hint towards getting the secret ending for those who don't read the lore tablets (or in my case, got there before finding the hint tablets) it does mean that you go in with the resources and a bit of knowledge to accidentally lock yourself out of the main ending, but if paired with your idea of having more spires with their own weapon/staff combo this is avoidable. I do really like that idea though. Not entirely sure how it would fit in the lore? But if implemented it would drastically increase the play time. Perhaps have the order randomized? Ideas for staff/weapon hybrids. Small sword: transforms into a double ended sword. Not like the sword staff already in the game, but moreike the one in gorn. The main idea is to make it easier to use the staff slam abilities. Dagger: well it's a wand, and I can't really think of any interesting transformations. I guess just another cross guard? Though maybe have the un-imbued state have the cross guard so that it can be more wand like imbued. Axe: goes from single blade and spike to double bladed with spike on top Pole axe: perhaps changes from spike to hammer? There are a variety of different things to put on the end of a polearm, and I was disappointed when I found out the vanilla one is axe/spike (I personally prefer axe/hammer) so I think when imbued it should switch from spike to hammer, since that way it can also benefit from gravity megabonk Mace: definitely something actively spinning in the head. Perhaps it opens up and extends a bit? 2 handed mace: perhaps this one can change from spike to axe, that way you can have both options for your polearm imbued and not imbued. Though that would mean switching the axe to have blunt end when not imbued and spike when imbued. Spear: give it a hook. I mean it's already a staff just with a stabby end instead of a crystal. Maybe the stabby end *is* a crystal. Shield: doom dark ages style chainsaw edge! We already have the shield throw ability, might as well make a shield that pierces instead of bounces! If possible I think it should change shape, too. When not imbued it's a kite shield with a spike at the bottom, when imbued it's a round shield with little spikes spinning around the edge. Bow: crossbow. I don't really care what the transformation is, just make it a crossbow. I think an armor set would be nice too. Maybe with max (or at least 4) in all stats. Probably put it at the very end, and quite possibly hide it in the sandbox book until you unlock it in a crystal hunt save. Throwing knives: these are a thing, and you're not gonna throw your wand. Maybe have it be a really cool pouch that forges an endless supply of knives. Maybe have the knives fan out into stars? I think that's all of them. I would like to see other ideas so...
Reply because I can't edit (at least not on mobile) Perhaps the lore explanation for the extra towers is they're backups, in case the first one is destroyed or rendered nonfunctional in any capacity. Perhaps these ones are smaller, hastily made and thus easier to disable. Or maybe they each have unique puzzles. Perhaps one needs you to bring a compete set of ancient dice, or that one amulet lookin artifact. Maybe one has a golem to guard the shutoff key. Maybe one needs you to solve a riddle. Maybe one needs merged spells, perhaps even fusion merge like storm or plasma beam.
@@VirtualBroVR It probably won’t be as impressive on nomad, but still pretty cool. Also I probably won’t play it too much because my game crashes anytime I try to play for more than 20 minutes
@@importedposter4152 nah, I think it might be some of my mods. I probably just need to uninstall the game and re install it and test each mod to see which one is the issue
I'm happy to see this game finally done, I'm also left feeling a little disappointed that it was that short as well. But after some research I learned that the engine this game uses is super old, which is why it always takes forever for updates to release, which is obviously frustrating for players and the developers. Thankfully The Warpfrog team are moving on and will hopefully cook with their new game 👌
When I was playing Blade and Sorcery, I was very curious about what was behind that door. When the time came to find out, I was happy. But when I saw that huge tower, I was even more excited. I thought there would be an epic fight or a fight with the final boss. But I was disappointed when I saw that it was the end. Immediately after beating the game, I thought, "What now?"
I've been playing on PC since U11 I'm so happy to it has gotten this far but I worry about whether modders will keep up their work, I love BaS but after finishing crystal hunt it feels sad it's over. I hope for all of the BaS fans this game never dies.
This game will 100% be the Skyrim of vr, in u12 there was a mod called “quest framework” which was absolutely insane because someone made an open-world b&s mod with it that had like dozens of hours of gameplay and this was made in less than a year by a random dude who wanted to learn how to code, with limited potential because of no campaign mechanics already in the game
@@importedposter4152 I’m thinking there’s going to be sidequests in the barons bounty, he’ll send you to a custom map to find a relic or something, and somebody could also add a hub map for npcs to do sidequests also
The bad ending and good ending are swapped. The one where you grab the sword and getting zapped. Is you sacrificing yourself for the world to not be plunged into an apocalypse. The secret one is you plunging the world into an apocalypse for a cool sword
Mods during crystal hunt. Speed up npc movement, increase their HP and do a 50/50 left handed and right handed NPC's. and like you said, you can incease the size of hector. Any way to make it more difficult is what makes it more rewarding and a skill tree that's not there is the IRL skill tree. Like looking how to properly weild a long sword on youtube and bringing it in game makes you better
About the difficulty, there is an option to do "permadeath" or lose gold on death as well as a difficulty option while you are creating a new character. i feel like this is a good feature that makes the game a little more replayable.
I really like the idea of multiple tower I have a extension on what you said btw, for every tower to get the others version or raa you have to do something different to get it and when you blow one up you have to repair the door and it gets more and more difficult because you keep damaging it
Im retty aure this isnt the final update, since the end just meant that there's an ending you can get. the game just got out of early access, but just because it did doesnt mean it's not gonna get any more content in the future
10:15 idk why nobody knows how that skill works, you just use the grab function on your controller when an enemy shoots a fireball and then you can control it like a normal object. Its not a deflection you literally just use telekinesis on the fireball, and when you throw the fireball it actually homes onto the nearest enemy.
I think the main intention is a lot of the problems with the game can be solved by moders there's tons and tons of great mods that improve a lot of aspects of the game It's sad to see that is what it comes to, but if you take the engine's limitations into in affect they did as much as they possibly could trying to stretch this old engine and they'll learn from their mistakes with their new project they're starting
for everyone thats sad that its the end. dont worry. they will still work on qol stuff {basically i think realism stuff} better ai. optimization and stuff.
The game is good, and I'm not all that unhappy that the game ended with me a little disappointed. The reason being, this game has an extremely active modding community. And now with the updated SDK and the ability to make custom dungeons, skill trees, weapons, loot, enemies, armor and more. The devs kinda pulled a Bonelab, with a mediocre campaign, but insane modding support.
I mean to be fair the idea to not giving you everything before the ending is to make replaying better since you still get new skills to discover, if even after having discovered every spells and ability’s and combos and everything but you still want to play more then you can challenge yourself and try a no death run on hardcore. The game was never meant to be played as a single run where you get everything but a bunch of smaller runs.
i think for the endings it's actually the opposite of what you said. (spoilers incoming) from what i can tell, in the first ending, the khemenet (you) sacrifice yourself to basically make it so the world won't end due to the big star in the sky. in the secret ending, the khemenet is overtaken by greed, and ruins the prophecy by breaking the monolith. keep in mind, i have not read a single bit of lore, this is just what a youtube video told me
The absolute devastation I felt whenever I saw it was PC exclusive... I watched all the news videos, researched, as soon as the day came i checked my headset hourly. But to no avail. I was confused, so I looked online and it said PC exclusive... So i worked for three weeks and got a PC. SUCK ON THAT WORLD
Like one where you properly take on the eye or fight the kingdom. Both to save people or to take revenge against those who threaten you. Also maybe have enchanted armor and weapons with unique enchantments and stuff, like armor that defies gravity magic or makes one immune to fire damage or lightning damage.
the problem with the game progression for me is not that it's too short, but too long, for what the game is, fighting the same boss 6 times and before that 3 dungeons that you've already seen... ain't that fun
